Right, I guess more specifically what I'm asking is what is SMV-exclusive and not also a part of PSL. Kind of a square/rectangle situation.
Basically look at approaches IOIs of females in life and conclude your own rating. Clearly PSL is men giving other men ratings. It means little.
yes but legit 95% of this sub doesn’t talk/interact or hang out with women so that’s not an option unfortunately. that’s why there’s autistic psl ratings.
IDK I feel this analysis (meaning all PSL and redpill type analysis) is helpful because its very useful to know where your attraction is coming from. Think of a high-school quarterback who after not being able to play college ball suddenly has very little female interest, and he never realized it was his status that was the number one thing driving his SMV. Or conversely if would be helpful to know that you could substantially increase female interest by isolating what areas you're lacking in and improving them. That's basically the whole mission of these types of forums except for purists who just want to be beautiful for the sake of being beautiful, bless their souls
It is though. Just pick up a hobby with lots of females in it and see how they react. Everyone has been in high school and knows how most females reacted around them.
attraction comes from the face. then height. then body.
Going off of how you were treated in high school is not a good idea bc you’re still in puberty and will develop. Unless you’re in HS, then yeah see how you’re judged, but if I were to look bad to HS, I was practically invisible. College changes the game by ten folds.
Yeah tbh.
looksmax is only good for asking what surgeries you need via pm and ethnic arguments
one of the reasons i stay is for the stupid arguments and funny content
Height can't be put on a scale lol.
ur welcome
okay but i’m talking about The West. height is very important, especially for girls 18-25. then they settle with the guy who makes the most
Height isn't really important in the West either. Apart from when girls who have daddy issues and a preference towards height, most women would choose face. Even on tinder, the swipe rates on people who mention they are 6'0+ aren't much higher.
Everything has to be put on a scale though, all things matter in terms of locality. For example blonde haired blue eyed men would slay over brown haired men in Asia but not in the West.
Face is the easiest to generalize. Putting other factors on a scale would be too much.
And yet I would also bet that face has localized differences as well. In reality forums like these are geared towards the culture of the West, because that is the culture we're all used to and were more or less raised in (most of us) or exposed to through media. Any application to other cultural regions is pretty much speculation as our heated ethnic debates often reveal.
Idk man, it depends. I’ve seen many accounts of women loving height. They want the mog to them by at least a few inches
Most girls are not above 5'7 lol. The average man would be tall enough. Height mogs noly matter if the face is equivelent.
But remember, they view height as a trophy, as status. They get validation and approval when they tell their friends their BF is 6’
Western ideals are the goal of most countries.
You think its about being taller than the woman? Its mostly about being taller than other men. Of course you're gonna be taller than the woman.
How do we know? Most countries are Westernized but idk I'm not convinced that there wouldn't be distinct opinions if you wandered into some bumfuck remote villages never exposed to the 24/7 bombardment of our propag-I mean media.
Never said I did. I jsut contradicting what Prettyboy said when he said, women wanted a man who is a couple of inches taller.
Certain aesthetic ideals are ideals everywhere. Western beauty standards are the same literally everywhere.
My mistake.
Considering this sites ratings are typically about as accurate as r/truerateme, which has a bunch of females on it, I'd say otherwise.
Lol. Idk about truerateme but real life is much more indicative of SMV than some score on a forum.
Girls don't approach that often though.
I can tell you a sure way to know where you stack up in terms of looks. By observing females around you.
True. The problem with the "real life" theory is that it doesn't account for actual SMV, only practical SMV. A PSL 8 6'5 billionaire with a dom personality who spends his whole life in a cabin in the woods has an incredibly high actual SMV but a practical SMV of 0
Not accurately. I've always been treated really nice by girls with lots of "ioi"s. But really I am just average.
It's not just approaches, there's body language and IOI.s
I went over this lol. If involved in social gatherings, you will get a lot more than a more attractive guy who isn't invloved in social gatherings. This is the reason why so many mentalcels exist.
You can miss this shit if you're neurotic enough. A neurotic person's mindset is to interpret any sign of interest as mere friendliness - I did this a lot in high school apparently and missed a lot of opportunities because of it. Sometimes it can unironically be hard to tell as a lot of daygame from women, especially in settings where they fear judgment from peers, is expressed in terms of friendliness and you can easily mistake it for politeness especially if you have a bitch mentality.
i'm shit at this....
Also people looksmax for things other than girls. Lookism exists in society. Being treated a certain way in your life can't be compared to other people's life experiences unless you were in their shoes.
If she smiles at you, if she goes out of her way to talk to you, if she makes it easy to talk to her and is receptive when you do, if she responds well to physical contact or offers physical contact (hug). Now that I know the signs its easy to tell for example which women in my social circles I have a chance with vs those I don't.
This, being attractive offers you so many boons in life outside of just success with women, its insane.
One way is if you consistently notice a girls gaze on you. And for this you need to go about your day not checking who sees you lol but if you feel uncomfortable bcs of being stared into chances are HIGH she is into you.