Question to experienced looksmaxers: How do you cope with the fact that harmony is the most important feature and barely changeable?

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Beauty is your ratios rearranged according to the golden ratio. How do you cope with the fact that for example gymcelling isn't gonna help in that regard?
 
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easily changable
 
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fuckin narcissist didnt even bother changing his name to suck his own cock publicly
 
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Read my thread about what makes someone good looking or ugly. The golden ratio is only relevant because it comes with a high likelihood that there is an avergeness to your face which is ideal as a base.
 
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Harmony is your ratios being close to the golden ratio. For example that's why a tall skull is ideal. The ideal skull height should be 1.61 (golden ratio) times longer than the widht. A high T ogrecel with a wide face would have his height:width ratio closer to 1. Obviously eye area and bones are also very important but if you really want to be exceptionally attractive you need harmony.
 
Couldn't you just get surgery to fit the ratios? Skin and hair also play a role in harmony, and both are easily fixable.
 
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Harmony is your ratios being close to the golden ratio. For example that's why a tall skull is ideal. The ideal skull height should be 1.61 (golden ratio) times longer than the widht. A high T ogrecel with a wide face would have his height:width ratio closer to 1. Obviously eye area and bones are also very important but if you really want to be exceptionally attractive you need harmony.

Explained nothing
 
People keep using this word everywhere and nobody still knows what it means
You look good or you dont
The only explanation given is " look like Chico"
And what the fuck is an experienced looksmaxxer?the only difference between you and a surgerycel is the bank account
 
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Harmony is a thing that no one explained


If you want I can tell you why Chico is good looking but will be a long list.
 
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Meisner Golden Ratio Facial Beauty Analysis Template Markers

Most faces regarded as beautiful or attractive will have a significant number of markers whose proportions are very close to the golden ratio (as rounded to 1.618). The guide is simple when viewed in the individual elements shown in the slides above. It includes the following list of golden ratio facial proportions:
Meisner Beauty Guide for Golden Ratio Facial Analysis
Reference
Number Starting point Golden ratio point End point

Golden Ratios in Dimensions of the Head
HW Head height (1 to 33) Height to width Head width at ears (19 to 20)

Golden Ratios in Vertical (top to bottom) Facial Dimensions
V1 Center of pupils (11, 12) Center of lips (31) Bottom of chin (33)
V2 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Bottom of chin (33)
V3 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose flair top (21, 22) Nose base (25, 26)
V4 Top arc of eyebrows (3, 4) Top of eyes (9, 10) Bottom of eyes (17, 18)
V5 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Center of lips (29, 31)
V6 Top of lips (27, 28) Center of lips (29, 31) Bottom of lips (32)
V7 Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Top of lips (27, 28) Center of lips (29, 31)

Golden Ratios in Horizontal (side to side) Facial Dimensions
(These have Left-Right Symmetry)
H1 Side of face (19) Inside of near eye (15) Opposite side of face (20)
H2 Side of face (19) Inside of near eye (15) Inside of opposite eye (16)
H3 Center of face (2, 33) Outside edge of eye (13) Side of face (19)
H4 Side of face (19) Outside edge of eye (13) Inside edge of eye (15)
H5 Side of face (19) Outside of eye brow (7) Outside edge of eye (13)
H6 Center of face (2, 33) Width of nose (24) Width of mouth (30)
H7 Side of mouth (29) Cupidโ€™s bow (27, 28) Opposite side of mouth (30)
H8 Width of central incisor tooth Width of lateral incisor tooth
 
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Most faces regarded as beautiful or attractive will have a significant number of markers whose proportions are very close to the golden ratio (as rounded to 1.618). The guide is simple when viewed in the individual elements shown in the slides above. It includes the following list of golden ratio facial proportions:
Meisner Beauty Guide for Golden Ratio Facial Analysis
Reference
Number Starting point Golden ratio point End point

Golden Ratios in Dimensions of the Head
HW Head height (1 to 33) Height to width Head width at ears (19 to 20)

Golden Ratios in Vertical (top to bottom) Facial Dimensions
V1 Center of pupils (11, 12) Center of lips (31) Bottom of chin (33)
V2 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Bottom of chin (33)
V3 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose flair top (21, 22) Nose base (25, 26)
V4 Top arc of eyebrows (3, 4) Top of eyes (9, 10) Bottom of eyes (17, 18)
V5 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Center of lips (29, 31)
V6 Top of lips (27, 28) Center of lips (29, 31) Bottom of lips (32)
V7 Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Top of lips (27, 28) Center of lips (29, 31)

Golden Ratios in Horizontal (side to side) Facial Dimensions
(These have Left-Right Symmetry)
H1 Side of face (19) Inside of near eye (15) Opposite side of face (20)
H2 Side of face (19) Inside of near eye (15) Inside of opposite eye (16)
H3 Center of face (2, 33) Outside edge of eye (13) Side of face (19)
H4 Side of face (19) Outside edge of eye (13) Inside edge of eye (15)
H5 Side of face (19) Outside of eye brow (7) Outside edge of eye (13)
H6 Center of face (2, 33) Width of nose (24) Width of mouth (30)
H7 Side of mouth (29) Cupidโ€™s bow (27, 28) Opposite side of mouth (30)
H8 Width of central incisor tooth Width of lateral incisor tooth

So not everybody can be chad?
 
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Most faces regarded as beautiful or attractive will have a significant number of markers whose proportions are very close to the golden ratio (as rounded to 1.618). The guide is simple when viewed in the individual elements shown in the slides above. It includes the following list of golden ratio facial proportions:
Meisner Beauty Guide for Golden Ratio Facial Analysis
Reference
Number Starting point Golden ratio point End point

Golden Ratios in Dimensions of the Head
HW Head height (1 to 33) Height to width Head width at ears (19 to 20)

Golden Ratios in Vertical (top to bottom) Facial Dimensions
V1 Center of pupils (11, 12) Center of lips (31) Bottom of chin (33)
V2 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Bottom of chin (33)
V3 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose flair top (21, 22) Nose base (25, 26)
V4 Top arc of eyebrows (3, 4) Top of eyes (9, 10) Bottom of eyes (17, 18)
V5 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Center of lips (29, 31)
V6 Top of lips (27, 28) Center of lips (29, 31) Bottom of lips (32)
V7 Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Top of lips (27, 28) Center of lips (29, 31)

Golden Ratios in Horizontal (side to side) Facial Dimensions
(These have Left-Right Symmetry)
H1 Side of face (19) Inside of near eye (15) Opposite side of face (20)
H2 Side of face (19) Inside of near eye (15) Inside of opposite eye (16)
H3 Center of face (2, 33) Outside edge of eye (13) Side of face (19)
H4 Side of face (19) Outside edge of eye (13) Inside edge of eye (15)
H5 Side of face (19) Outside of eye brow (7) Outside edge of eye (13)
H6 Center of face (2, 33) Width of nose (24) Width of mouth (30)
H7 Side of mouth (29) Cupidโ€™s bow (27, 28) Opposite side of mouth (30)
H8 Width of central incisor tooth Width of lateral incisor tooth
be john hexum theory
 
So not everybody can be chad?
Obviously not, jfl.
Golden ratio is a stupid concept taken from greek philosophy, there is no proof that the "golden ratio" fits to PSL facial ratios like FWHR
You're coping hard, the golden ratio is found in nature as it's in this pattern that the maximum amount of work can be done with the least amout of energy.
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Look at how her face looks balanced. No feature stands out more than the other, everything works in tandem, this evokes sense of beauty in the human brain.
If you are in an autistic mood you could measure Lachowski's ratios, I bet you will often see the number 1.6 on your calculator.
 
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No harmony for horse faced cels
 
Harmony is overall ratios, how is that hard to understand? PSL forums typically just focus on fixing individual features b/c for example if you're a high T ogrecel with a wide face there is no surgery to make your face thinner. However, you can improve individual features with surgery to a degree.
 
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Most faces regarded as beautiful or attractive will have a significant number of markers whose proportions are very close to the golden ratio (as rounded to 1.618). The guide is simple when viewed in the individual elements shown in the slides above. It includes the following list of golden ratio facial proportions:
Meisner Beauty Guide for Golden Ratio Facial Analysis
Reference
Number Starting point Golden ratio point End point

Golden Ratios in Dimensions of the Head
HW Head height (1 to 33) Height to width Head width at ears (19 to 20)

Golden Ratios in Vertical (top to bottom) Facial Dimensions
V1 Center of pupils (11, 12) Center of lips (31) Bottom of chin (33)
V2 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Bottom of chin (33)
V3 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose flair top (21, 22) Nose base (25, 26)
V4 Top arc of eyebrows (3, 4) Top of eyes (9, 10) Bottom of eyes (17, 18)
V5 Center of pupils (11, 12) Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Center of lips (29, 31)
V6 Top of lips (27, 28) Center of lips (29, 31) Bottom of lips (32)
V7 Nose at nostrils (23, 24) Top of lips (27, 28) Center of lips (29, 31)

Golden Ratios in Horizontal (side to side) Facial Dimensions
(These have Left-Right Symmetry)
H1 Side of face (19) Inside of near eye (15) Opposite side of face (20)
H2 Side of face (19) Inside of near eye (15) Inside of opposite eye (16)
H3 Center of face (2, 33) Outside edge of eye (13) Side of face (19)
H4 Side of face (19) Outside edge of eye (13) Inside edge of eye (15)
H5 Side of face (19) Outside of eye brow (7) Outside edge of eye (13)
H6 Center of face (2, 33) Width of nose (24) Width of mouth (30)
H7 Side of mouth (29) Cupidโ€™s bow (27, 28) Opposite side of mouth (30)
H8 Width of central incisor tooth Width of lateral incisor tooth

This is just ideal ratios.
 
Ideal Midface is 1.61 btw
 
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Eppleymaxx via a full face implant.

...Prototypes coming 2020
 
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Obviously not, jfl.

You're coping hard, the golden ratio is found in nature as it's in this pattern that the maximum amount of work can be done with the least amout of energy.
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Look at how her face looks balanced. No feature stands out more than the other, everything works in tandem, this evokes sense of beauty in the human brain.
If you are in an autistic mood you could measure Lachowski's ratios, I bet you will often see the number 1.6 on your calculator.
Someone do this pls
 
Harmony is your ratios being close to the golden ratio. For example that's why a tall skull is ideal. The ideal skull height should be 1.61 (golden ratio) times longer than the widht. A high T ogrecel with a wide face would have his height:width ratio closer to 1. Obviously eye area and bones are also very important but if you really want to be exceptionally attractive you need harmony.

Is skull height to hairline, or actual top of skull? I assume width is measured at the widest point of the face?
 
Is skull height to hairline, or actual top of skull? I assume width is measured at the widest point of the face?
Actual top of the skull and yes, it's the widest point.
 
Beauty is your ratios rearranged according to the golden ratio. How do you cope with the fact that for example gymcelling isn't gonna help in that regard?
Define harmony.



Jfl, people here define harmony as good looks, and yeah, good looks are important to be good looking
 
Beauty is your ratios rearranged according to the golden ratio. How do you cope with the fact that for example gymcelling isn't gonna help in that regard?




Muh it isn't changeable i am making a fucking thread of every single thing on here in a logically ordred system easy to lead for the lay men
 

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