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ramus len
I always thought my ramus length was fine tbh. Isnt it just my chin?
gthening will make your whole jaw higher
 
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4mm downgraft lefort 1
6mm semi chin wing downgraft front with no movement on the bacm and 2mm forwards.
do it. you will ascend easily with this like 1.5 psl from one surgery
 
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You look like this emoji - :(
Your eye area rn now looks like shit. It might be fixable without surgery though, just by being happier. => which over time will lead to the usage of different muscles around your eyes, changing how they look. Some things like your medial canthus and NCT cant be fixed hat way obviously.
you think eye exercises can reduce sclersl show?
 
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Is it nct or just droopy upper eye lid? I will get genio or smth lile that soon
droopy upper eyelid. needs blepharoplasty.

btw, can you give me a smile pic? I suspect you have short face syndrome hence babyface
 
4mm downgraft lefort 1
6mm semi chin wing downgraft front with no movement on the bacm and 2mm forwards.
do it. you will ascend easily with this like 1.5 psl from one surgery
Thats pretty much what i want to do. What you think is my current psl?
 
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The only thing that fixes a nasion glabella crease is lefort 3 unfortunately.
Why lefort 3 and Not 2? Also, fillers should at least make it look a bit better right?
 
4mm downgraft lefort 1
6mm semi chin wing downgraft front with no movement on the bacm and 2mm forwards.
do it. you will ascend easily with this like 1.5 psl from one surgery
Could u simulate it in photoshop? And tag me in the result I want to see how it would improve him. Currently I look at him and can’t imagine how he gets out of this baby face hell would be interesting if ur idea ascends him
 
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Why lefort 3 and Not 2? Also, fillers should at least make it look a bit better right?
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Yeah my bad, it looks like Lefort 2 can fix it. However in ur case u have negative canthal tilt aswell so u realistically need a lefort 3.
 
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Yeah my bad, it looks like Lefort 2 can fix it. However in ur case u have negative canthal tilt aswell so u realistically need a lefort 3.
Ill have to cope with canthopexy and stuff like that. Lefort 3 is too high risk to turn out bad i think
 
Picsart 22 09 06 07 45 38 493 this could be him... all i did: 3mm lefort 1 downgraft, 6mm chin wing downgraft front only (4-5 mm forwards, i changed idea after analising more). lip lift, rhinoplasty, upper eyelid medial canthus filler, hairline lowering. and tan of course.
 
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View attachment 1855383 this could be him... all i did: 3mm lefort 1 downgraft, 6mm chin wing downgraft front only (4-5 mm forwards, i changed idea after analising more). lip lift, rhinoplasty, upper eyelid medial canthus filler, hairline lowering. and tan of course.
@mvp2v1 @kopper
 
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you and i are in a pretty similar boat man. lmk what you gonna do coz im not reading this entire thread jfl. good luck, pray we both ascend inshallah :love:
 
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View attachment 1855383 this could be him... all i did: 3mm lefort 1 downgraft, 6mm chin wing downgraft front only (4-5 mm forwards, i changed idea after analising more). lip lift, rhinoplasty, upper eyelid medial canthus filler, hairline lowering. and tan of course.
Looking at face shape I actually don't think the lf1 downgraft was needed. But it's always hard to judge my own face. What do you guys think?
 
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you and i are in a pretty similar boat man. lmk what you gonna do coz im not reading this entire thread jfl. good luck, pray we both ascend inshallah :love:
Ill make more threads soon about my surgeries and stuff. You can watch those then. Can you send me a pic of you in pm? Would be ver interested
 
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Yea thats exactly what he looks like a man with a babies face (not particularly attractive I'd say a strong LTN)
How do you think I could get rid of my baby face?
 
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Looking at face shape I actually don't think the lf1 downgraft was needed. But it's always hard to judge my own face. What do you guys think?
@pintolino @Mouthbreath @Pumanator
 
Looking at face shape I actually don't think the lf1 downgraft was needed. But it's always hard to judge my own face. What do you guys think?
@pintolino @Mouthbreath @Pumanator
 
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How do you think I could get rid of my baby face?
The main thing that gives you a baby face is your jaw isn't vertically tall enough (the space between the end of your lip and end of your chin is too small) that and chubby cheeks leaves you with a baby face, maybe facial hair could help or surgery
 
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Yeah, i can see the similarities. Let me now if you get anything done
ill try facepulling,hormonemaxxing, bonesmashing,hard mewing for maybe a yr and then surgery if all that doesent wprk
 
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Yeah, i can see the similarities. Let me now if you get anything done
do you think youve had a hormonal deficiency during your development phases like low thyroid, shit diet etc?
 
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ill try facepulling,hormonemaxxing, bonesmashing,hard mewing for maybe a yr and then surgery if all that doesent wprk
Tried everything of that for at least a year except bonesmashing and it didnt work
 
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View attachment 1855383 this could be him... all i did: 3mm lefort 1 downgraft, 6mm chin wing downgraft front only (4-5 mm forwards, i changed idea after analising more). lip lift, rhinoplasty, upper eyelid medial canthus filler, hairline lowering. and tan of course.
Huge improvement, if those procedures really do translate to such a. Result then this is the best ascension plan in the thread imo
 
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Looking at face shape I actually don't think the lf1 downgraft was needed. But it's always hard to judge my own face. What do you guys think?
Any opinions? Do you thibk it's fine to get the other procedures done first before getting lf1 downgrafz? That would also help quite a lot with money obvsly vause i have only like 30 to 50k euros available
 
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Tried everything of that for at least a year except bonesmashing and it didnt work
Bc your faceialngrowth is already great you are already mewing by default. The hormonemaxing I see you tried I wonder if you have before of your face at the time. HGH + steroids and k2 would have an impact on your face 100%. But I don’t know if it’s really the change you want. The surgical route is your best bet imo
 
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Bc your faceialngrowth is already great you are already mewing by default. The hormonemaxing I see you tried I wonder if you have before of your face at the time. HGH + steroids and k2 would have an impact on your face 100%. But I don’t know if it’s really the change you want. The surgical route is your best bet imo
Dont have any before Photos atm. I also didn't use hgh or k2, just steroids
 
Give this mf a pacifier
 
Also u need to widen ur mouth the nose to mouth ratio is very disharminous
 
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Also u need to widen ur mouth the nose to mouth ratio is very disharminous
Yeah i know that, i will Start with rhino to make bise tip smaller (will probbaly make it look much better alrdy), but ive also been looking into mse and stuff and mouth widening surgery / Devices, but i want to widen my palate first
 
Yeah i know that, i will Start with rhino to make bise tip smaller (will probbaly make it look much better alrdy), but ive also been looking into mse and stuff and mouth widening surgery / Devices, but i want to widen my palate first
Nose tip*
 
First surgery (chin wing downward and forward movement+ jaw angle implants to fix the stepoff caused by chin wing forward movement and also rhino) will be 26th of octobre. After that will be looking into malar and infraorbital implants and also bleph finally, but maybe i will get LL and HT first. Will also look for mse providers in time.
I will try to avoid lf 1 downgraft cause my philtrum is alrdy relatively long, but if it really is needed i will get it asap after my first surgery
 
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If i need lf 1 downgraft depends on how much my lower third height i gain from chin wing
 
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Just had my Chin Wing and Rhino (it was delayed). Will provide pics as soon as it makes sense
 
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Just had my Chin Wing and Rhino (it was delayed). Will provide pics as soon as it makes sense
impressive bro you really want to improve. BASED
 
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How do you think I could get rid of my baby face?
mk677 + test helped me get rid of my baby face quite a bit, but it's dangerous and you should be going to the gym while doing it
 
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mk677 + test helped me get rid of my baby face quite a bit, but it's dangerous and you should be going to the gym while doing it
Ive used steroids already. Didnt seem to do anything for my face sadly but give me acne and more bloat
 
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