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yeah trueLooks more submissive, but not more beautiful tbh
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yeah trueLooks more submissive, but not more beautiful tbh
he is not more than 7 PSL even after, due to all these fraud IMOLighting is making all the difference here. Jaw+nose job+undereye fillers+ lighting.
it is what it is, in my case i need fucking massive masseters to get upward tbhOnly by knowing the truth he'll be able to know what he have to do, it's either that or being bluepilled, getting a divorce in his mid 30's and becoming a MGTOW. At least now he knows what he must do so he doesn't end up like that tbh
why so trash bro ? is it 100/100 true ?
so hard to hear tbh
Nah bro that’s hella jaded. No need to analyze someone’s face like that. Idc what anyone says.Only by knowing the truth he'll be able to know what he have to do, it's either that or being bluepilled, getting a divorce in his mid 30's and becoming a MGTOW. At least now he knows what he must do so he doesn't end up like that tbh
Those aren't outliers though. Many of the times people have legitmate failos that can be fixed and increased through surgeries. An outlier is something too rare to be in the normal range when I see people with failos that can be fixable every day.I said there’s outliers and I’m aware that jaw implants can give a man a 1PSL boost (actual 1PSL). Only good example is that white guy who had extreme recession and had that jaw implant and made him into a high 5 to low 6PSL. There’s obviously others but I haven’t seen them yet.
5 surgeries for 1PSL point don't worth it imoIf he gets the 4-5 needed surgeries I can see him gaining 1+ psl point. I think there's a slight chance he can hit 5+ psl maybe 1/100 but it's there the biggest obstacle in hitting 5+ for him are his eyes imo
no, he mogs you hard on his before picture tbh
yeah in these he mogs hard, but i can't believe him in authenticity one second tbhno, he mogs you hard on his before picture tbh
he was very good looking for his ethnicity
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both old pics of him, idk if he's 100% natural in 2nd pic but its irrelevant as his harmony/pheno is top tier for an ethnic regardless
@streege see, bad lighting versus good. he was like 6PSL before the surgeries. all he needed was a nose jobno, he mogs you hard on his before picture tbh
he was very good looking for his ethnicity
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both old pics of him, idk if he's 100% natural in 2nd pic but its irrelevant as his harmony/pheno is top tier for an ethnic regardless
he's one of the worst looking posters i've ever seenOP isn't hideous or deformed, the problem is that he has too many minor flaws, he has the base to ascend to a normie tie, at that level getting cucked is less common
Imo if you're not going from one tier to the next surgeries are hardly worth it. The 3 tiers being ugly, invisible, and attractive. He can do like 2 surgeries so nobody irl will place him in the ugly category.5 surgeries for 1PSL point don't worth it imo
if the pics are really not frauded, he was close to 6 PSL ngl@streege see, bad lighting versus good. he was like 6PSL before the surgeries. all he needed was a nose job
IMO he looked really good before all his looskmaxxing. He went overboard but if he’s happy now, good for him.if the pics are really not frauded, he was close to 6 PSL ngl
i can never reach these levels by their means. I mean i have way more ethnic looking, and less western ones. My traits are more "high T" so i need just to make them more high T, otherwise it'll fuck my harmony. Getting top tier jawline will help. It's already chadlite from profile, i don't know what to do to have the same from front. low bf will help me to knowif the pics are really not frauded, he was close to 6 PSL ngl
as i say if it was really him without fraud, no need for any surgery tbhIMO he looked really good before all his looskmaxxing. He went overboard but if he’s happy now, good for him.
I think he’s in the invisible category. Borderlining ugly. You REALLY need to be ugly for people to notice you’re uglyImo if you're not going from one tier to the next surgeries are hardly worth it. The 3 tiers being ugly, invisible, and attractive. He can do like 2 surgeries so nobody irl will place him in the ugly category.
it's sad but true tbhImo if you're not going from one tier to the next surgeries are hardly worth it. The 3 tiers being ugly, invisible, and attractive. He can do like 2 surgeries so nobody irl will place him in the ugly category.
i love u bro.In an attempt to mitigate the brain damage this thread will undoubtedly cause to anyone who has the misfortune of reading it, let me clarify this 'recession' thing & why even the most 'bluepilled' maxfac would take OP's case.
The image below illustrates (albeit to a greater extent) OP's problem. Skull B is what OP has. This is RETRUSION by ALL measures. I'm not going to go into cephalometric measurements tbh just take my word for it.
Notice the gradient of the philtrum & how the mandible droops, constricting the airway.
Bi-max with CCW would be recommended by almost any maxfac (given that they are skilled enough to perform such a complicated procedure.)
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yes this is low effort but idc it gets the point across
That's exactly where I think he is. Being borderline means some people will take you as ugly, and those people that take you as ugly can effect other people's opinions that take you as invisible. If he gets a couple surgeries he can possibly be comfortably in the invisible category.I think he’s in the invisible category. Borderlining ugly. You REALLY need to be ugly for people to notice you’re ugly
he has tiny deformed skull lolso nobody irl will place him in the ugly category.
surgery is such a necessity in our society tbh for the all day living and interactions.That's exactly where I think he is. Being borderline means some people will take you as ugly, and those people that take you as ugly can effect other people's opinions that take you as invisible. If he gets a couple surgeries he can possibly be comfortably in the invisible category.
i love u bro.
What's the best to reach the lower third that i've showed u in morphed pic, considering not any fucking maxfac that i've asked want to do surgery on me...
if i get this jawline angle + wider mouth, no need even for rhino or any other shit.
Imagine spending money to be invisibleThat's exactly where I think he is. Being borderline means some people will take you as ugly, and those people that take you as ugly can effect other people's opinions that take you as invisible. If he gets a couple surgeries he can possibly be comfortably in the invisible category.
how did he get then, so called "good foid " ?he has tiny deformed skull lol
small/short skull is a giga death sentence unless you have very good face
death tier eye area, bad IPD on top of all extremely assymetric
his lower third speaks for itself
im very surprised by the forum tbh, it's getting weak
i would even go as far as he looks 2-2.5 PSL
he's classically an unattractive man
lol at that quote think it's meant for @streegeif you just want a wider jaw & don't want to go the osteotomy route then it'll have to be fillers or jaw angle implants chief
if you just want a wider jaw & don't want to go the osteotomy route then it'll have to be fillers or jaw angle implants chief
he has tiny deformed skull lol
small/short skull is a giga death sentence unless you have very good face
death tier eye area, bad IPD on top of all extremely assymetric
his lower third speaks for itself
im very surprised by the forum tbh, it's getting weak
i would even go as far as he looks 2-2.5 PSL
he's classically an unattractive man
hahahaha wtflol at that quote think it's meant for @streege
5 surgeries for 5 to 6psl isn't worth it?5 surgeries for 1PSL point don't worth it imo
you mog him tbhHow come he is rated a 3.5 and i am a 3
Idk, if he were 5’5 he would look like a child. height saves him so much. And his skin/lighting isn’t that bad either.he has tiny deformed skull lol
small/short skull is a giga death sentence unless you have very good face
death tier eye area, bad IPD on top of all extremely assymetric
his lower third speaks for itself
im very surprised by the forum tbh, it's getting weak
i would even go as far as he looks 2-2.5 PSL
he's classically an unattractive man
from 2 to 3,no5 surgeries for 5 to 6psl isn't worth it?
ethnicity+fwhr+midfaceHow come he is rated a 3.5 and i am a 3
ignoranceHow come he is rated a 3.5 and i am a 3
What surgeries are we talking? If you’re already a 5 then you don’t need that many to get to a 6 IMO. Or maybe I’m just coping because I’m in that boat5 surgeries for 5 to 6psl isn't worth it?
Op has way more flawsethnicity+fwhr+midface
You jsut said 1psl tho kikefrom 2 to 3,no
i just need the morphed jawline Tbh and wider jaw, now that i've seen the morph, i'll kill for that.What surgeries are we talking? If you’re already a 5 then you don’t need that many to get to a 6 IMO. Or maybe I’m just coping because I’m in that boat
No I was referring to @streege saying that 5 surgeries to get 1 psl isn't worth it. And you probably are because your only failo is your eyes. I can see 5psl people needing quite a few surgeries before hitting 6psl.What surgeries are we talking? If you’re already a 5 then you don’t need that many to get to a 6 IMO. Or maybe I’m just coping because I’m in that boat
If you need 5 surgeries to make you from a 2 to a 3...You jsut said 1psl tho kike
It gets on my nerves seriouslyyou mog him tbh
show morph comparisoni just need the morphed jawline Tbh and wider jaw, now that i've seen the morph, i'll kill for that.
No even need for rhino
You jsut said 1psl tho kike
OP only has high IPD and recessed features. I'd put you both around 3psl anyway.Op has way more flaws
Sucks but it is what it isImagine spending money to be invisible
Couldn’t be me
I already know what I need to get to me to 6PSL. Cantho, fat transfers to undereyes, lower bleh, ptosis, and rhino. Taban can do multiple surgeries at a time.No I was referring to @streege saying that 5 surgeries to get 1 psl isn't worth it. And you probably are because your only failo is your eyes. I can see 5psl people needing quite a few surgeries before hitting 6psl.
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actually they are not flat tbh, i have older pics with low bf @autophobic can confirm that my cheekbones are quite well projected.I already know what I need to get to me to 6PSL. Cantho, fat transfers to undereyes, lower bleh, ptosis, and rhino. Taban can do multiple surgeries at a time.
Damn you weren’t kidding about high and flat cheekbones.