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The facemask name is fmaIs FMA just FME + facemask?
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The facemask name is fmaIs FMA just FME + facemask?
Me too.i am currently doing a part time job so that i can do it after maybe 2years when they complete many cases like custom marpe and mse and become more comfortable with itYou can't lol. Not enough providers. Hopefully that will change, I want FME badly
i also assume it does not stretch out the alar base. i heard fme is already out, but me living in the absolute medieval village the uk is, i imagine not even the most minted jewish london clinics have it yet.We all know mse with facemask is inefficient and cant do significant protraction BUT with the upcoming fme+new facepulling device can bring maxilla forward significantly.Dr zubad newaz is trying it on him unlike mse it is completely bone-brne so it effects midface very well.also it can pull the maxilla both forward and upwards.this is what the design looks likeView attachment 3364394
Ok explain why this is unrealistic.Ur such a fucking retard why do you keep blabbering about this unrealistic dog shit
I ve not seen somebody say that their alar base got widen.lets see when the fme cases starts increasingi also assume it does not stretch out the alar base. i heard fme is already out, but me living in the absolute medieval village the uk is, i imagine not even the most minted jewish london clinics have it yet.
You can’t even show an abstract/paper/scans/sources, you are going based off podcasts and shitty Reddit posts.Ok explain why this is unrealistic.
Unrealistic dogshit??? Lol just read the fucking document and say that again.fme worked clearly as they mentioned in the document if fme can work why cant fmaUr such a fucking retard why do you keep blabbering about this unrealistic dog shit
i will show you the document wait a secYou can’t even show an abstract/paper/scans/sources, you are going based off podcasts and shitty Reddit posts.
Not reading any more of your broken English slop
Lol now you are judging based on my english.i am not from english speaking country and my english may not be good but you are clearly changing the topicYou can’t even show an abstract/paper/scans/sources, you are going based off podcasts and shitty Reddit posts.
Not reading any more of your broken English slop
I apologise for my unnecessary and mean words. I will read the document, many thanks.Lol now you are judging based on my english.i am not from english speaking country and my english may not be good but you are clearly changing the topic
This document have better info about it.no problem broI apologise for my unnecessary and mean words. I will read the document, many thanks.
when i was on about alar, i meant that mse was more prone to widening it btw, whereas fme wasntI ve not seen somebody say that their alar base got widen.lets see when the fme cases starts increasing
Yea i think its due to the expansion pattern,more anterior expansionwhen i was on about alar, i meant that mse was more prone to widening it btw, whereas fme wasnt
I need thoes shitWe all know mse with facemask is inefficient and cant do significant protraction BUT with the upcoming fme+new facepulling device can bring maxilla forward significantly.Dr zubad newaz is trying it on him unlike mse it is completely bone-brne so it effects midface very well.also it can pull the maxilla both forward and upwards.this is what the design looks likeView attachment 3364394
my maxilla is not recessed my mandible just grew that way because of deep overbite that was never correctedYea i think its due to the expansion pattern,more anterior expansion
I swear this is like the 4th time in the last 5 years that a new upward facemask is “releasing”We all know mse with facemask is inefficient and cant do significant protraction BUT with the upcoming fme+new facepulling device can bring maxilla forward significantly.Dr zubad newaz is trying it on him unlike mse it is completely bone-brne so it effects midface very well.also it can pull the maxilla both forward and upwards.this is what the design looks likeView attachment 3364394
I swear this is like the 4th time in the last 5 years that a new upward facemask is “releasing”
Bimax or vertical geniomy maxilla is not recessed my mandible just grew that way because of deep overbite that was never corrected
I’m not doing smth like that maybe implants or fillersBimax or vertical genio
Implants will not fix this and fillers are a temporary solution. If you don't get LJS or genio, it won't be fixed.I’m not doing smth like that maybe implants or fillers
How will genio fix an overbite? I need double jaw surgery or a good orthodontistImplants will not fix this and fillers are a temporary solution. If you don't get LJS or genio, it won't be fixed.
Genio can mask itHow will genio fix an overbite? I need double jaw surgery or a good orthodontist
Ah I didn’t read the overbite part. However, my point still stands as I did mention LJS.How will genio fix an overbite? I need double jaw surgery or a good orthodontist
is it out?We all know mse with facemask is inefficient and cant do significant protraction BUT with the upcoming fme+new facepulling device can bring maxilla forward significantly.Dr zubad newaz is trying it on him unlike mse it is completely bone-brne so it effects midface very well.also it can pull the maxilla both forward and upwards.this is what the design looks likeView attachment 3364394
Nope.i think it will be out soonis it out?
any news?Yea it will come out in mid 2025 most probably newaz is trying it on himself now and on some patients.cameron the inventor of this have class 3 himself.
because the portion of the FMA that goes into your mouth has to be personalized to the patient in his case it was personalized before he started the expansion thinking facegenics was going to send him the FMA soon but they delayed the process and when he received it didnt fit him anymore + there currently exist a single copy of the FMA outside of facegenics' lab and one of Newaz's patient has it + the fme and RPEs in general have been known to cause maxillary protraction for a long ass time. nearly all CBCT superposition of before and after RPE treatment show the maxilla slightly in front after treatment. but yes only the FME has been causing these multi mm advancement. currently the guy who has the FMA has a class III plus narrow palate if the FME + FMA really works we're going to enter a new era.If Newaz can be trusted he's also claiming that just plain fme alone by itself can provide a small amount of protraction of the order of say 3mm, from what happened in his own case
Based af if true
However, I'm not entirely sure if I'm buying into this. People who've consulted with him have said he told them he's been trialing out the fma on himself. So how do we know the protraction wasn't caused by the fma? I also noted in his most recent video he now seems to be backtracking and saying he hasn't been doing the fma on himself. Which is now worrying me a little bit that's he's trying to hype up the capabilities of fme as much as possible.
this could ascend me so hard im constantly talking to the orthos but the price is insane and doesnt justify it u could gamble with FME at 30k + USD or get bimax + leforts and even MSE for a guarenteed result + keep some other cash for other hardmaxes you might needbecause the portion of the FMA that goes into your mouth has to be personalized to the patient in his case it was personalized before he started the expansion thinking facegenics was going to send him the FMA soon but they delayed the process and when he received it didnt fit him anymore + there currently exist a single copy of the FMA outside of facegenics' lab and one of Newaz's patient has it + the fme and RPEs in general have been known to cause maxillary protraction for a long ass time. nearly all CBCT superposition of before and after RPE treatment show the maxilla slightly in front after treatment. but yes only the FME has been causing these multi mm advancement. currently the guy who has the FMA has a class III plus narrow palate if the FME + FMA really works we're going to enter a new era.