Regret running masteron

TitusA said:
At age 19. Well its dependant on how prone to hair loss you are. Obv if you run a little bit of test and get hair loss then you shouldnt run tren. Id ran test for years before getting hair loss from tren and anadrol.
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It is good that you just started with test and not immediately with other compounds like some kids here try to do
TitusA said:
In what way would this determine how credible my claims are? lol you have women boybuilders running the very high androgens with more masculine face thn most men.
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Obviously you cant compare women bodybuilders with males. When women use roids to a certain degree they see clit growth / other androgenic effects but if a male did it he wouldnt achieve that dick growth for example. The physiology is different which makes it a bit hard to compare
TitusA said:
What reason would I ever have to lie when imm totally honest on here including how ridiculous my dosages where, how I got addicted to recreational drugs, how theirs some tranniess id fk. I couldn't care less how a bunch of you view me on here.

You are the guy with 4.3k posts in a year and a half so dont accuse me of being a forum fraud/somebody who gives a shit about this place. Id be way more active if I gaf.
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Whatever bud, I just meant if you dont even provide before after pics with maybe including your twin we wont be able to see any changes. You also didnt give any example but when I did give examples of bodybuilders that didnt change slightly over many years of AAS use then suddenly I'm wrong somehow.
 
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yannis said:
Going to do 400mg, what precautions to take in your opinion?
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Take a CBC, and test your hormone levels before, 2 months into cycle do the same things and adjust ancillaries to what the results are. For example, if you have high hematocrit you will need to donate blood. If your e2 is too high you will need to use an AI.
 
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Johanjohan said:
But isnt it brutal having a good body when most girls are fucking their skinnyfat boyfriend :feelskek:
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No it isn’t brutal it’s just a cope for laziness.
Face matters more anyways.
 
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halloweed said:
No it isn’t brutal it’s just a cope for laziness.
Face matters more anyways.
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Most girls date skinnyfat oofy doofy

Isnt it brutal to be muscular and GL when most girls date guys who never gymmed in their life:feelskek:
 
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Johanjohan said:
Most girls date skinnyfat oofy doofy

Isnt it brutal to be muscular and GL when most girls date guys who never gymmed in their life:feelskek:
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Bro are you trolling?
So skinnyfat oofy doofy has a greater chance of dating more than oofy doofy with an aesthetic physique or the muscular and GL guy?
 
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Jonas2k7 said:
You understand that they are chemically different but you fail to interpret what that means now

Androgenic compounds depending on each compound exert most of the time stronger effects than DHT. We know that DHT is around 4 times stronger than DHT (but again 5ar is only in selective tissue making the endogenous produced DHT useless for bonemass/muscle building) and compounds like Mast do reach the bone and muscle tissue just like test would

now why wouldnt we use just test? test simply is = high anabolic, low androgenic

But we also see how test is good at increasing bone mass in studies though

the difference here between each compound is how they cause different genes in the nucleus to be expressed

This means DHT derivates like mast or other highly androgenic compounds like tren (19 nor derivate) would be good at achieving the (potential/in theory/speculated) bone mass gains

I would only recommend trying to achieve that type of androgenic facial bone growth with a lot of ancillaries to maintain the hair and skin just like it is

@20/04/2008 @Hexmask @sb23
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Pure Dht actually have 20 more affinty to Ar then Dht derivative interm of androgenicity (Mast isn’t that androgenic its like 50% as androgenic as Pure testosterone)
But Dht only have like 6x more affinity in interm of anabolism
 
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halloweed said:
Bro are you trolling?
So skinnyfat oofy doofy has a greater chance of dating more than oofy doofy with an aesthetic physique or the muscular and GL guy?
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No but isnt it brutal to be goodlooking knowing most girls are dating skinnyfat normies

Its like getting into harvard and making the same salary as the average joe :feelskek:
 
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Johanjohan said:
No but isnt it brutal to be goodlooking knowing most girls are dating skinnyfat normies

Its like getting into harvard and making the same salary as the average joe :feelskek:
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You’ll have more options being gl so I don’t know how that’s brutal. The girls who date skinnyfat normies are below to average looking, they are able to get attached to a good looking guy in reality.
 
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halloweed said:
You’ll have more options being gl so I don’t know how that’s brutal. The girls who date skinnyfat normies are below to average looking, they are able to get attached to a good looking guy in reality.
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tbh a lot of cute teen girls are dating normies from their school or social circle

Its brutal seeing cute girls with skinnyfat normies
 
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Johanjohan said:
tbh a lot of cute teen girls are dating normies from their school or social circle

Its brutal seeing cute girls with skinnyfat normies
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At least we all got a chance.
 
halloweed said:
I used it for 4 months
Wrecked collagen
Made me look older, people commented on this and my teacher said I look 30.
Hair started thinning
Thankfully reversed this, I attribute the come back from using oral min and tretinoin.
But on the plus side I looked more vascular and somewhat dimorphic.
This also controlled my bloat from testosterone usage.


Overall rating:
3/10 for face
6/10 for body
8/10 for wellbeing

@Hexmask @Jonas2k7 @sb23 @TitusA @roider122
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What was your dosage?
 
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It's not automatic that all DHT derivatives == collagen nuking.

Both primo and anavar increase collagen synthesis.
 
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Johanjohan said:
Looksmax feels like a joke when so many girls are dating normies :unsure:
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By evolution the girls want their partners to have great indicators of youth, symmetry, clear skin, good dimorphism (being able to differentiate the guy is a guy) etc. The more indicators you have, the more attractive you are. Normies can definitely get partners but the variety is regulated by looks.
 
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halloweed said:
I used it for 4 months
Wrecked collagen
Made me look older, people commented on this and my teacher said I look 30.
Hair started thinning
Thankfully reversed this, I attribute the come back from using oral min and tretinoin.
But on the plus side I looked more vascular and somewhat dimorphic.
This also controlled my bloat from testosterone usage.


Overall rating:
3/10 for face
6/10 for body
8/10 for wellbeing

@Hexmask @Jonas2k7 @sb23 @TitusA @roider122
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bro, masteron can mess with your collagen and hair for sure. vascularity and dimorphism are cool but not worth wrecking your face. good on reversing some damage with min and tret. focus on sustainable looksmaxxing—skin, hair, and diet will do more in the long run than short-term gains. 3/10 face isn't the end, but don’t risk more damage for temporary results :)(y)
 
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halloweed said:
300mg weekly

Mast > Primo > Var in terms of androgenicity.
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Fair, yeah masteron is quite androgenic.
It's not as black and white as androgenicity, ultimately you'll have to look at the properties of the compound itself.
People who run primo and var usually get very healthy looking skin, almost a shine to it.
 
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halloweed said:
By evolution the girls want their partners to have great indicators of youth, symmetry, clear skin, good dimorphism (being able to differentiate the guy is a guy) etc. The more indicators you have, the more attractive you are. Normies can definitely get partners but the variety is regulated by looks.
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Yes goodlooking guys can pull more girls

But most girls still date normies :feelskek: its brutal
 
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Jonas2k7 said:
It is good that you just started with test and not immediately with other compounds like some kids here try to do

Obviously you cant compare women bodybuilders with males. When women use roids to a certain degree they see clit growth / other androgenic effects but if a male did it he wouldnt achieve that dick growth for example. The physiology is different which makes it a bit hard to compare

Whatever bud, I just meant if you dont even provide before after pics with maybe including your twin we wont be able to see any changes. You also didnt give any example but when I did give examples of bodybuilders that didnt change slightly over many years of AAS use then suddenly I'm wrong somehow.
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The clith growth happens even in anavar users allong with facial chnges though. Im saying looking at high end extreme users on high androgens. Thats is facial change way beyond just some aas exposure. The fitness girls even the ones that use winstrol get a bit more masculine but those high end ifbb pros faces are masculine asfk.

These women are getting these facial changes during their 20s and as I said 18 year old kids do not look like fully grown men in the face. Most of you still get asked for id for alcohol and why? because the jaw/ facial bones thicken/develop and androgen exposure at those ages accenuates it.

Brother I will never dox myself on this dam forum with pics. I already provide enough info about myself as it is. When even our own mother says steroids have altered my face lol and everybody thinks we arent twins anymore that kind of says it all. Let me emphasise we are identical twins not none-idenical we looked 98% the same most of our lives.
 
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Realism said:
It's not automatic that all DHT derivatives == collagen nuking.

Both primo and anavar increase collagen synthesis.
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frankly I don't think any aas nukes your collagen. I think every time somebody on this forums skin looks worse they instantly say its collagen loss lol. Actually im pretty sure they all increase collagen to different extents.

I hear 17 year olds on nothing say they are done because their collagen is fkd already and its like no bro you just got no bones and are ugly. U didnt get collagen loss at 17.
 
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halloweed said:
I used it for 4 months
Wrecked collagen
Made me look older, people commented on this and my teacher said I look 30.
Hair started thinning
Thankfully reversed this, I attribute the come back from using oral min and tretinoin.
But on the plus side I looked more vascular and somewhat dimorphic.
This also controlled my bloat from testosterone usage.


Overall rating:
3/10 for face
6/10 for body
8/10 for wellbeing

@Hexmask @Jonas2k7 @sb23 @TitusA @roider122
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Thx for not tagging me
 
halloweed said:
You’ll have more options being gl so I don’t know how that’s brutal. The girls who date skinnyfat normies are below to average looking, they are able to get attached to a good looking guy in reality.
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Physique is not cope
I just hate when normies overrate it it obviously has smth to do with your rating
Same thing with personnality it could ibcrease your Psl by like 0.5 if yiu were anorexic or Dat
 
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20/04/2008 said:
Physique is not cope
I just hate when normies overrate it it obviously has smth to do with your rating
Same thing with personnality it could ibcrease your Psl by like 0.5 if yiu were anorexic or Dat
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Water
 
AverageCurryEnjoyer said:
Just did my second injection of like 75mg like 2 seconds ago before seeing this thread. I already have 2 vials and was planning to make dht gel from the masteron but decided to pin. What would you say I should do.
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Dht gel from masteron ???
Masteron has a different structure plus it’s an oil based eater so you’ll need to separate the masteron from oil and ester and you’re not doing allat. Just run test and AI
 
halloweed said:
Dht gel from masteron ???
Masteron has a different structure plus it’s an oil based eater so you’ll need to separate the masteron from oil and ester and you’re not doing allat. Just run test and AI
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I saw that orc thread about seperating that shit and making on eusibnng dmso and other shit/
 
halloweed said:
Dht gel from masteron ???
Masteron has a different structure plus it’s an oil based eater so you’ll need to separate the masteron from oil and ester and you’re not doing allat. Just run test and AI
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gang do i just do test only for cycle i read most molecules but people are fighting whats low androgenic high anabolic
 
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chadisbeingmade said:
Balding genes are extremely random, there’s no way to truly know. Best way is to start before you notice loss, it’s so much more of a hassle to recover hair loss than prevent it .
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I just got blood test on dht and bucha other shit
 
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tf do I do with my masteron now.
 
Jonas2k7 said:
It is good that you just started with test and not immediately with other compounds like some kids here try to do

Obviously you cant compare women bodybuilders with males. When women use roids to a certain degree they see clit growth / other androgenic effects but if a male did it he wouldnt achieve that dick growth for example. The physiology is different which makes it a bit hard to compare

Whatever bud, I just meant if you dont even provide before after pics with maybe including your twin we wont be able to see any changes. You also didnt give any example but when I did give examples of bodybuilders that didnt change slightly over many years of AAS use then suddenly I'm wrong somehow.
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halloweed said:
Age?
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chadisbeingmade said:
Duta to prevent balding from Test (due to conversion to DHT) and RU to prevent balding from Tren. That is your only option.
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AverageCurryEnjoyer said:
running that shit low dose rn, am I cooked.
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What do yall think about @androgenic
 
TitusA said:
Nah it doesnt age you anything but short term while on though. Allot of the aging is just water retention that disappears after. People think mi 25 at 29 and I blasted way higher amounts than most of the forum + used a ton of recreational drugs.

It shouldn't age you long term unless you are taking ifbb pro amounts tbh. Also I feel the stimulant abuse and tanning allot of bodybuilders/fitness guys do is another factor in premature aging.

It will age very young guys (talking below the age of 23) just because it speeds up puberty and the physical changes that take place but it shouldn't make you look older thn your mid 20s long term unless you have taken ungodly amounts or are on a cycle.

Look at vigorous steves vids he does transformation vids going on cycle to off everything and keep in mind hes 40 years old. He does not look older thn 40 when off. While on he looks fkd up.
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Tbh I do agree with this, but how can you explain why clavicular looks so damn old? He takes tons of precautions and is just on TRT doses lol.
 
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What do yall think about @androgenic
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He ran test for 3 years 500mg and got chin fillers and jaw fillers after.
 
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halloweed said:
@Wexilarious what?
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I'm just shocked by the side effects that everyone who injects something has to endure, and I just sitting healthmaxxed and that's it
 
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halloweed said:
bro what I did was mixed the remaining with test, about 10% mast left in vial, then used the mix and never bought it again.
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I gpot roughly equal amounts of test an dmast so that shit wouldnt work.
 
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halloweed said:
Just throw vial away or sell it tbh

I probably dermaroll my hairline once a month and the topical one.
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Now that i think about it maybe i should run min instead of 5ars, you get dependant on both anyways
 
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Hexmask said:
Tbh I do agree with this, but how can you explain why clavicular looks so damn old? He takes tons of precautions and is just on TRT doses lol.
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He doesnt look that old to me and tbh who knows when hes on pregabalin which hes mentioned numerous times. Think he's yet to realise it causes water retention in the face lol.
 
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halloweed said:
Just throw vial away or sell it tbh

I probably dermaroll my hairline once a month and the topical one.
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I got var for collagen tbh so I dont think it would rape me that hard. Do you think it would be enough to save me or what
 
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AverageCurryEnjoyer said:
I got var for collagen tbh so I dont think it would rape me that hard. Do you think it would be enough to save me or what
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Nah it won’t be enough but you can run it if you want
 
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