Regret running masteron

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Having a great physique is actually sexually dimorphic and attractive
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Yet most girls are dating skinnyfat guys
 
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TitusA said:
At age 19. Well its dependant on how prone to hair loss you are. Obv if you run a little bit of test and get hair loss then you shouldnt run tren. Id ran test for years before getting hair loss from tren and anadrol.
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It is good that you just started with test and not immediately with other compounds like some kids here try to do
TitusA said:
In what way would this determine how credible my claims are? lol you have women boybuilders running the very high androgens with more masculine face thn most men.
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Obviously you cant compare women bodybuilders with males. When women use roids to a certain degree they see clit growth / other androgenic effects but if a male did it he wouldnt achieve that dick growth for example. The physiology is different which makes it a bit hard to compare
TitusA said:
What reason would I ever have to lie when imm totally honest on here including how ridiculous my dosages where, how I got addicted to recreational drugs, how theirs some tranniess id fk. I couldn't care less how a bunch of you view me on here.

You are the guy with 4.3k posts in a year and a half so dont accuse me of being a forum fraud/somebody who gives a shit about this place. Id be way more active if I gaf.
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Whatever bud, I just meant if you dont even provide before after pics with maybe including your twin we wont be able to see any changes. You also didnt give any example but when I did give examples of bodybuilders that didnt change slightly over many years of AAS use then suddenly I'm wrong somehow.
 
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yannis said:
Going to do 400mg, what precautions to take in your opinion?
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Take a CBC, and test your hormone levels before, 2 months into cycle do the same things and adjust ancillaries to what the results are. For example, if you have high hematocrit you will need to donate blood. If your e2 is too high you will need to use an AI.
 
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Johanjohan said:
But isnt it brutal having a good body when most girls are fucking their skinnyfat boyfriend :feelskek:
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No it isn’t brutal it’s just a cope for laziness.
Face matters more anyways.
 
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halloweed said:
No it isn’t brutal it’s just a cope for laziness.
Face matters more anyways.
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Most girls date skinnyfat oofy doofy

Isnt it brutal to be muscular and GL when most girls date guys who never gymmed in their life:feelskek:
 
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Johanjohan said:
Most girls date skinnyfat oofy doofy

Isnt it brutal to be muscular and GL when most girls date guys who never gymmed in their life:feelskek:
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Bro are you trolling?
So skinnyfat oofy doofy has a greater chance of dating more than oofy doofy with an aesthetic physique or the muscular and GL guy?
 
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Jonas2k7 said:
You understand that they are chemically different but you fail to interpret what that means now

Androgenic compounds depending on each compound exert most of the time stronger effects than DHT. We know that DHT is around 4 times stronger than DHT (but again 5ar is only in selective tissue making the endogenous produced DHT useless for bonemass/muscle building) and compounds like Mast do reach the bone and muscle tissue just like test would

now why wouldnt we use just test? test simply is = high anabolic, low androgenic

But we also see how test is good at increasing bone mass in studies though

the difference here between each compound is how they cause different genes in the nucleus to be expressed

This means DHT derivates like mast or other highly androgenic compounds like tren (19 nor derivate) would be good at achieving the (potential/in theory/speculated) bone mass gains

I would only recommend trying to achieve that type of androgenic facial bone growth with a lot of ancillaries to maintain the hair and skin just like it is

@20/04/2008 @Hexmask @sb23
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Pure Dht actually have 20 more affinty to Ar then Dht derivative interm of androgenicity (Mast isn’t that androgenic its like 50% as androgenic as Pure testosterone)
But Dht only have like 6x more affinity in interm of anabolism
 
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halloweed said:
Bro are you trolling?
So skinnyfat oofy doofy has a greater chance of dating more than oofy doofy with an aesthetic physique or the muscular and GL guy?
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No but isnt it brutal to be goodlooking knowing most girls are dating skinnyfat normies

Its like getting into harvard and making the same salary as the average joe :feelskek:
 
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Johanjohan said:
No but isnt it brutal to be goodlooking knowing most girls are dating skinnyfat normies

Its like getting into harvard and making the same salary as the average joe :feelskek:
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You’ll have more options being gl so I don’t know how that’s brutal. The girls who date skinnyfat normies are below to average looking, they are able to get attached to a good looking guy in reality.
 
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Johanjohan said:
No but isnt it brutal to be goodlooking knowing most girls are dating skinnyfat normies

Its like getting into harvard and making the same salary as the average joe :feelskek:
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just be funny bro
 
halloweed said:
You’ll have more options being gl so I don’t know how that’s brutal. The girls who date skinnyfat normies are below to average looking, they are able to get attached to a good looking guy in reality.
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tbh a lot of cute teen girls are dating normies from their school or social circle

Its brutal seeing cute girls with skinnyfat normies
 
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Johanjohan said:
tbh a lot of cute teen girls are dating normies from their school or social circle

Its brutal seeing cute girls with skinnyfat normies
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At least we all got a chance.
 
halloweed said:
I used it for 4 months
Wrecked collagen
Made me look older, people commented on this and my teacher said I look 30.
Hair started thinning
Thankfully reversed this, I attribute the come back from using oral min and tretinoin.
But on the plus side I looked more vascular and somewhat dimorphic.
This also controlled my bloat from testosterone usage.


Overall rating:
3/10 for face
6/10 for body
8/10 for wellbeing

@Hexmask @Jonas2k7 @sb23 @TitusA @roider122
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What was your dosage?
 
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It's not automatic that all DHT derivatives == collagen nuking.

Both primo and anavar increase collagen synthesis.
 
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Johanjohan said:
Looksmax feels like a joke when so many girls are dating normies :unsure:
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By evolution the girls want their partners to have great indicators of youth, symmetry, clear skin, good dimorphism (being able to differentiate the guy is a guy) etc. The more indicators you have, the more attractive you are. Normies can definitely get partners but the variety is regulated by looks.
 
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halloweed said:
I used it for 4 months
Wrecked collagen
Made me look older, people commented on this and my teacher said I look 30.
Hair started thinning
Thankfully reversed this, I attribute the come back from using oral min and tretinoin.
But on the plus side I looked more vascular and somewhat dimorphic.
This also controlled my bloat from testosterone usage.


Overall rating:
3/10 for face
6/10 for body
8/10 for wellbeing

@Hexmask @Jonas2k7 @sb23 @TitusA @roider122
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bro, masteron can mess with your collagen and hair for sure. vascularity and dimorphism are cool but not worth wrecking your face. good on reversing some damage with min and tret. focus on sustainable looksmaxxing—skin, hair, and diet will do more in the long run than short-term gains. 3/10 face isn't the end, but don’t risk more damage for temporary results :)(y)
 
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halloweed said:
300mg weekly

Mast > Primo > Var in terms of androgenicity.
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Fair, yeah masteron is quite androgenic.
It's not as black and white as androgenicity, ultimately you'll have to look at the properties of the compound itself.
People who run primo and var usually get very healthy looking skin, almost a shine to it.
 
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halloweed said:
By evolution the girls want their partners to have great indicators of youth, symmetry, clear skin, good dimorphism (being able to differentiate the guy is a guy) etc. The more indicators you have, the more attractive you are. Normies can definitely get partners but the variety is regulated by looks.
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Yes goodlooking guys can pull more girls

But most girls still date normies :feelskek: its brutal
 
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Jonas2k7 said:
It is good that you just started with test and not immediately with other compounds like some kids here try to do

Obviously you cant compare women bodybuilders with males. When women use roids to a certain degree they see clit growth / other androgenic effects but if a male did it he wouldnt achieve that dick growth for example. The physiology is different which makes it a bit hard to compare

Whatever bud, I just meant if you dont even provide before after pics with maybe including your twin we wont be able to see any changes. You also didnt give any example but when I did give examples of bodybuilders that didnt change slightly over many years of AAS use then suddenly I'm wrong somehow.
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The clith growth happens even in anavar users allong with facial chnges though. Im saying looking at high end extreme users on high androgens. Thats is facial change way beyond just some aas exposure. The fitness girls even the ones that use winstrol get a bit more masculine but those high end ifbb pros faces are masculine asfk.

These women are getting these facial changes during their 20s and as I said 18 year old kids do not look like fully grown men in the face. Most of you still get asked for id for alcohol and why? because the jaw/ facial bones thicken/develop and androgen exposure at those ages accenuates it.

Brother I will never dox myself on this dam forum with pics. I already provide enough info about myself as it is. When even our own mother says steroids have altered my face lol and everybody thinks we arent twins anymore that kind of says it all. Let me emphasise we are identical twins not none-idenical we looked 98% the same most of our lives.
 
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Realism said:
It's not automatic that all DHT derivatives == collagen nuking.

Both primo and anavar increase collagen synthesis.
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frankly I don't think any aas nukes your collagen. I think every time somebody on this forums skin looks worse they instantly say its collagen loss lol. Actually im pretty sure they all increase collagen to different extents.

I hear 17 year olds on nothing say they are done because their collagen is fkd already and its like no bro you just got no bones and are ugly. U didnt get collagen loss at 17.
 
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TitusA said:
as I said 18 year old kids do not look like fully grown men in the face. Most of you still get asked for id for alcohol and why? because the jaw/ facial bones thicken/develop and androgen exposure at those ages accenuates it.
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I don’t usually see men’s faces change from 18+ in terms of actual bone structure. It usually just seems to be the loss of baby fat/youthful fat pads that give the appearance of stronger facial bones. This usually starts to happen after 18 and throughout their 20s. It wasn’t that their bones grew. Obviously after blasting Test and Tren you many get facial bone improvement, but for the typical epsom that doesn’t it seems to be only fat pads degeneration due to androgens, not facial bone increase.
 
chadisbeingmade said:
I don’t usually see men’s faces change from 18+ in terms of actual bone structure. It usually just seems to be the loss of baby fat/youthful fat pads that give the appearance of stronger facial bones. This usually starts to happen after 18 and throughout their 20s. It wasn’t that their bones grew. Obviously after blasting Test and Tren you many get facial bone improvement, but for the typical epsom that doesn’t it seems to be only fat pads degeneration due to androgens, not facial bone increase.
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Okay thats your opinion but I disagree because 90% of 18 year olds I see (ob theirs outliars) look like twinks that could do gay porn tbh. They have no facial bones whatsoever, tiny necks, shitty fwhr, 0 thickness/density appearance in the jaw/cheekbones.
 
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TitusA said:
Okay thats your opinion but I disagree because 90% of 18 year olds I see (ob theirs outliars) look like twinks that could do gay porn tbh. They have no facial bones whatsoever, tiny necks, shitty fwhr, 0 thickness/density appearance in the jaw/cheekbones.
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If that’s the case for them at 18 is likely wont change in their future years, the only way they would appear to have more bones as they age is due to fat pad loss. l

That’s my option anyway from seeing people from ages 16-18 and later on, I can see virtually 0 change in their bone structure.
 
halloweed said:
I used it for 4 months
Wrecked collagen
Made me look older, people commented on this and my teacher said I look 30.
Hair started thinning
Thankfully reversed this, I attribute the come back from using oral min and tretinoin.
But on the plus side I looked more vascular and somewhat dimorphic.
This also controlled my bloat from testosterone usage.


Overall rating:
3/10 for face
6/10 for body
8/10 for wellbeing

@Hexmask @Jonas2k7 @sb23 @TitusA @roider122
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Thx for not tagging me
 
halloweed said:
You’ll have more options being gl so I don’t know how that’s brutal. The girls who date skinnyfat normies are below to average looking, they are able to get attached to a good looking guy in reality.
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Physique is not cope
I just hate when normies overrate it it obviously has smth to do with your rating
Same thing with personnality it could ibcrease your Psl by like 0.5 if yiu were anorexic or Dat
 
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chadisbeingmade said:
Masteron is poison in a vial. JFL at anyone that runs that shit for literally temporary cosmetic benefit of looking leaner, while fucking up their skin and hair.

DHT compounds are not DHT. They are derivatives meaning they are chemically similar to DHT but are not the same and do not confer the same effects or androgenicity that DHT does. All DHT compounds have unique pharmacological profiles and pharmacokinetics.

I laugh too hard when someone says they will DHT max then blast masteron thinking its DHT.
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running that shit low dose rn, am I cooked.
 
20/04/2008 said:
Physique is not cope
I just hate when normies overrate it it obviously has smth to do with your rating
Same thing with personnality it could ibcrease your Psl by like 0.5 if yiu were anorexic or Dat
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Water
 
AverageCurryEnjoyer said:
Just did my second injection of like 75mg like 2 seconds ago before seeing this thread. I already have 2 vials and was planning to make dht gel from the masteron but decided to pin. What would you say I should do.
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Destroy the vials or sell them to some retard in your gym. Being serous. Fuck running that shit. Will give you no benefit, trust me, and OP who already ran it.
 
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AverageCurryEnjoyer said:
Just did my second injection of like 75mg like 2 seconds ago before seeing this thread. I already have 2 vials and was planning to make dht gel from the masteron but decided to pin. What would you say I should do.
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Dht gel from masteron ???
Masteron has a different structure plus it’s an oil based eater so you’ll need to separate the masteron from oil and ester and you’re not doing allat. Just run test and AI
 
@Wexilarious what?
 
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chadisbeingmade said:
Destroy the vials or sell them to some retard in your gym. Being serous. Fuck running that shit. Will give you no benefit, trust me, and OP who already ran it.
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why should I not run in your opinion and evemn at low dose like 150mg per week. Im running test at 200mg per week btw
 
halloweed said:
Dht gel from masteron ???
Masteron has a different structure plus it’s an oil based eater so you’ll need to separate the masteron from oil and ester and you’re not doing allat. Just run test and AI
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I saw that orc thread about seperating that shit and making on eusibnng dmso and other shit/
 
halloweed said:
Dht gel from masteron ???
Masteron has a different structure plus it’s an oil based eater so you’ll need to separate the masteron from oil and ester and you’re not doing allat. Just run test and AI
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gang do i just do test only for cycle i read most molecules but people are fighting whats low androgenic high anabolic
 
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AverageCurryEnjoyer said:
why should I not run in your opinion and evemn at low dose like 150mg per week. Im running test at 200mg per week btw
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What benefit do you expect expect from masteron? It’s a cosmetic roid which rapes your hair and skin to make you look slightly leaner and dryer temporarily.

sover said:
gang do i just do test only for cycle i read most molecules but people are fighting whats low androgenic high anabolic
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If you want bones your only hope is unironically Tren. It’s both insanely anabolic and androgenic more so than both Test and DHT. Not recommending it or anything, but that’s your best option if that’s your goal.
 
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chadisbeingmade said:
What benefit do you expect expect from masteron? It’s a cosmetic roid which rapes your hair and skin to make you look slightly leaner and dryer temporarily.



If you want bones your only hope is unironically Tren. It’s both insanely anabolic and androgenic more so than both Test and DHT. Not recommending it or anything, but that’s your best option if that’s your goal.
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wouldnt tren make me bald tho.I have good nrowood genes btw
 
sover said:
wouldnt tren make me bald tho.I have good nrowood genes btw
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Duta to prevent balding from Test (due to conversion to DHT) and RU to prevent balding from Tren. That is your only option.
 
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chadisbeingmade said:
Duta to prevent balding from Test (due to conversion to DHT) and RU to prevent balding from Tren. That is your only option.
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ill get duta and test most likely.Tren is a no no im a beginner
 
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