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do you tan/go in the sun at all or is this all from the diet no sun exposure?It's kinda orange with hints of pink, similar to Arvid's colouring in that gif
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do you tan/go in the sun at all or is this all from the diet no sun exposure?It's kinda orange with hints of pink, similar to Arvid's colouring in that gif
I wear spf 50 because I'm using tretinoin (you become extra sensitive to the sun if you use retin-a) but I was out in the sun on the weekend and caught a bit of it, I don't actively tan or sunbathe at all tbh I think collagenmaxxing and carotenoidmaxxing is more important plus I live in the northern hemisphere so it's hard to depend on tanning consistentlydo you tan/go in the sun at all or is this all from the diet no sun exposure?
like do you have the ability to develop a tan from being in the sun?I wear spf 50 because I'm using tretinoin (you become extra sensitive to the sun if you use retin-a) but I was out in the sun on the weekend and caught a bit of it, I don't actively tan or sunbathe at all tbh I think collagenmaxxing and carotenoidmaxxing is more important plus I live in the northern hemisphere so it's hard to depend on tanning consistently
he said himself that beta carotene had a big effect on his complexion and gave him a more orange/gold glow, regardless of his tan he would have seen a similar colourtanning as well? that proves it. He already had the tanning genetics. I would want those results from taking the supplements alone as they have no effect on your ability to tan, which is what im lacking. (i get freckles) Only time i ever managed to get a tan was 2.5 weeks in the Bahamas during the summer where I was in the sun and water for 5+ hours a day every single day. (I did use sunscreen)
Definitely - north atlantid phenolike do you have the ability to develop a tan from being in the sun?
fuck i can't wait for mine to comeIt's kinda orange with hints of pink, similar to Arvid's colouring in that gif
money is no concern but i hate taking pills and i still dont want to waste money on stuff that is useless. they also say beta carotene supps are tough on the liverhe said himself that beta carotene had a big effect on his complexion and gave him a more orange/gold glow, regardless of his tan he would have seen a similar colour
beta carotene is cheap as fuck
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The liver side effects are made up, you only convert enough to vitamin a that you need, doses of up to 300mg have been used without toxic side effects, not a single recorded case of hypervitaminotosis from beta carotene recorded which is why carotenosis is a benign condition.money is no concern but i hate taking pills and i still dont want to waste money on stuff that is useless. they also say beta carotene supps are tough on the liver
Intakes of more than 25,000 IU/day for over 6 years, or more than 100,000 IU/day for over 6 months are considered toxicmoney is no concern but i hate taking pills and i still dont want to waste money on stuff that is useless. they also say beta carotene supps are tough on the liver
is there any advantage?dont buy pills even just eat loads of carrots
No just because he said he hates swallowing pills.is there any advantage?
ahhh ok, have you taken BC?No just because he said he hates swallowing pills.
in fact taking beta carotene in supplement form has been shown to yield 10 fold higher plasma concentrations than eating it through diet. This should (not sure tbh) result in more amounts in skin than eating carrots.
source on this? I have seen evidence contradicting it.100,000 IU/day for over 6 months are considered toxic
Yeah its good, only shows up properly in certain lighting though, can’t replace a tan in that way, for later hours and indoors the glow is solid thoughahhh ok, have you taken BC?
Penniston K. L. and Tanumihardjo S. A. The acute and chronic toxic effects of vitamin Asource on this? I have seen evidence contradicting it.
that is preformed vitamin A, BC is provitamin APenniston K. L. and Tanumihardjo S. A. The acute and chronic toxic effects of vitamin A
Chronic toxicity results from the ingestion of high amounts of preformed vitamin A for months or years. Daily intakes of > 25 000 IU for > 6 y and > 100,000 IU for > 6 mo are considered toxic, but there is wide interindividual variability for the lowest intake required to elicit toxicity
ohh okay, my bad then.that is preformed vitamin A, BC is provitamin A
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its not toxic honestly, the worry is about how much oxidative damage (if any) it could cause to your cells
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i have a mulatto colour, is there a point of using BC?Yeah its good, only shows up properly in certain lighting though, can’t replace a tan in that way, for later hours and indoors the glow is solid though
Look up the studies on BC in melinated skin, dont remember what they say tbh, imo yes but results might not be visible in the same wayi have a mulatto colour, is there a point of using BC?
that only had dark skin guys doe, im lightskin, oh well i already bought it so i'll use it anywayLook up the studies on BC in melinated skin, dont remember what they say tbh, imo yes but results might not be visible in the same way
Not that I know of, i dont even know if it will cause any, BC is an antioxident and its typically bad to take too many antioxidants, but i have found no mention of high doses of beta carotene causing that type of damage, i dont think it will tbh more vitamins like vit E.ohh okay, my bad then.
is there any way to prevent the possible oxidative damage?
thanks, lifefuel tbhNot that I know of, i dont even know if it will cause any, BC is an antioxident and its typically bad to take too many antioxidants, but i have found no mention of high doses of beta carotene causing that type of damage, i dont think it will tbh more vitamins like vit E.
it doesnt seem to be a concern when they prescribe 300mg a day for light disorders, and there have been many studies where they are taking 100,000IU or 50mg for years and decades at a time where no side effects are noted.
theres some speculation that high doses of BC might interfere with the way your body handles vitamin A, but the researchers behind this explicitly dont advise not taking high doses.
personally im not worried about any side effects from taking the amount i need.
good luck bro@Good_Little_Goy @hairyballscel
I just ordered a powdered form of beta carotene off amazon. Gets good reviews and that solved the pill problem.
Lets see if its legit for skin. One review was a dude talking about the tan it gave himgood luck bro
Hopefully it works well for you bro, id say start at 30mg-50,000IU but take double that if you want.@Good_Little_Goy @hairyballscel
I just ordered a powdered form of beta carotene off amazon. Gets good reviews and that solved the pill problem.
Lets see if its legit for skin. One review was a dude talking about the tan it gave him
How long before you noticed a skin color effect at 50,000 IU?Hopefully it works well for you bro, id say start at 30mg-50,000IU but take double that if you want.
if youre concerned about the safety, read my posts, toxicity is not a concern in the slightest
I started on 30,000IU and changed the dosage sporadically, dont remember exwctly what to, started really seeing changes around the 2 month mark, give it 3 months to see your final colourHow long before you noticed a skin color effect at 50,000 IU?
3 months? holy gigashit might have to just OD on 10 grams a dayI started on 30,000IU and changed the dosage sporadically, dont remember exwctly what to, started really seeing changes around the 2 month mark, give it 3 months to see your final colour
It has to build up, takes a while tbf can be annoying, beta carotene is fat soluble btw so you need to take it alongside a meal with some fat content in3 months? holy gigashit might have to just OD on 10 grams a day
How much this cost you btw?3 months? holy gigashit might have to just OD on 10 grams a day
Dumbest post I‘ve read today. Supplements are just nutrients, supposed to supplement your diet with if it is deficient in certain (micro)nutrients (which applies to the majority of people to some degree). If you are one of the rare ones who manage to commit to a reasonable diet and lifestyle long term, good for you. If anything, the most useless supplement one could possibly buy is protein powders. That‘s indeed a huge scam. Not saying that you need a huge medicine chest full of A-Z supplements, but only the nutrients you actually are deficient in. For me, those were ascorbic acid, riboflavin, magnesium and vitamin D. I had chronic bronchoconstriction for years and could barely breathe until I fixed my vitamin D levels.No. Supplements are worthless and this whole industry needs to die. It is lifestyle that is king. Maybe protein supplements if you are poor/on a budget (the least bad solution but still bad). All vitamin/mineral supplements are absolutely garbage. Maybe melatonin if you have sleep issues. I am having legitimate laughing spells when I see posts on supplements even though I never post about it because I dont have time
How do you figure out what you are deficient in?Dumbest post I‘ve read today. Supplements are just nutrients, supposed to supplement your diet with if it is deficient in certain (micro)nutrients (which applies to the majority of people to some degree). If you are one of the rare ones who manage to commit to a reasonable diet and lifestyle long term, good for you. If anything, the most useless supplement one could possibly buy is protein powders. That‘s indeed a huge scam. Not saying that you need a huge medicine chest full of A-Z supplements, but only the nutrients you actually are deficient in. For me, those were ascorbic acid, riboflavin, magnesium and vitamin D. I had chronic bronchoconstriction for years and could barely breathe until I fixed my vitamin D levels.
Also other health problems - allegedly incurable, regarding to the docs - which turned out to be driven primarily by a pathetic vitamin C deficiency (collagen synthesis). Med-free for four years while they keep doing clinical studies for useless drugs that will never give you the quality of life in terms of health and freedom I have now.
Keep reading your studies and let others take action.
Reading, learning from past experiences, listening to your body more, luck and trial and error. Tbh, I found most of these things out by accident, when I found that these things worked for conditions I had almost given up trying to find a solution for. But DrTony is right about one thing: diet and lifestyle comes firstHow do you figure out what you are deficient in?
thoughts on multi vitamin gummies?Reading, learning from past experiences, listening to your body more, luck and trial and error. Tbh, I found most of these things out by accident, when I found that these things worked for conditions I had almost given up trying to find a solution for. But DrTony is right about one thing: diet and lifestyle comes first
Waste of money and tooth enamelthoughts on multi vitamin gummies?
so its pointless taking them? whats wrong with them?Waste of money and tooth enamel
The question is, why do you want to take it? To prevent possible deficiencies? For that you should look at your diet first imoso its pointless taking them? whats wrong with them?
So what about calcium+vitd docs prescribe with, for example, forsteo? Just a scam? forsteo scam too? how the fuck do they test the efficacy of forsteo if not with a graded dose of calcium+vitd3 supplement?Can you give me any clinical trial studies or high quality research in high impact journals? Or you take stuff because of hearsay and hope for the best?
ps. I wont even comment on the unscrupulous and unregulated nature of the supplement industry.
Here we cook pasta and add grinded meat cooked on tomato puree, just what you are talking about. Traditional cooking beats everything.Tag me in the thread when you make it pls brah
I've been lycopenemaxxing for years, I use two tubes of tomato puree mixed with minced beef multiple times a week as well as adding tinned tomatoes to almost everything I can.
Lycopene is more bioavailable when it's broken down and cooked for long periods so tomato puree (ideally double concentrate) is best
Also it's fat soluble (all carotenoids are) so consume it with some fat
I have the 'orange glow' people are supposed to get from beta carotene even though I barely consume carrots or take beta carotene supplements
Dumbest post I‘ve read today. Supplements are just nutrients, supposed to supplement your diet with if it is deficient in certain (micro)nutrients (which applies to the majority of people to some degree). If you are one of the rare ones who manage to commit to a reasonable diet and lifestyle long term, good for you. If anything, the most useless supplement one could possibly buy is protein powders. That‘s indeed a huge scam. Not saying that you need a huge medicine chest full of A-Z supplements, but only the nutrients you actually are deficient in. For me, those were ascorbic acid, riboflavin, magnesium and vitamin D. I had chronic bronchoconstriction for years and could barely breathe until I fixed my vitamin D levels.
Also other health problems - allegedly incurable, regarding to the docs - which turned out to be driven primarily by a pathetic vitamin C deficiency (collagen synthesis). Med-free for four years while they keep doing clinical studies for useless drugs that will never give you the quality of life in terms of health and freedom I have now.
Keep reading your studies and let others take action.
Basically as a precaution if I was deficient in anything. (i dont eat plain vegetables that much). My parents have them so i wouldnt be buying them they are already thereThe question is, why do you want to take it? To prevent possible deficiencies? For that you should look at your diet first imo
please make thisI’ve been taking like 50mg a day of astaxanthin for 3 months now and nothing
but beta carotene seriously works like a charm give it a try
i have a thread on lycopene and how to use it to get redder skin coming up, that might be good.
I've never seen someone post a before/after picture of a beta carotene or astaxanthin tan so I'm starting to think it's mostly bullshit.
Great results, do you think the lycopen has made a big difference?View attachment 747266View attachment 747264
my results. this was four weeks of 60K IU supplements, i'm currently eating raw carrots with butter, gymcelling, taking 10 mg of lycopen, and 8 mg of astaxanthin for even better coloring.
pics were from beta carotene only. just started taking lycopen, i'll update sooner or laterGreat results, do you think the lycopen has made a big difference?
What brand of Beta Carotene are you using btw?pics were from beta carotene only. just started taking lycopen, i'll update sooner or later