Seeing all these Giant surgeries makes me want to get my own surgeries ASAP

[RealSurgerymax]

But giants been delaying my case for YEARS

He need to get off his LAZY ASS & GET TO WORK ON MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[esoterik]

eh i would understand if it was a few people, but when it gets to a point where like 10 people make and run a account dedicated to trying to get in contact with you, it’s a communication problem u need to resolve

 

[Jgns]

But giants been delaying my case for YEARS

He need to get off his FAT JUICY ASS & GET TO WORK ON MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Genio]

But giants been delaying my case for YEARS

He need to get off his LAZY ASS & GET TO WORK ON MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Giant PLEASE GIVE ME FREE LEFORT AND BBSO I WAS THERE IN LOOKISM VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Jgns]

Giant PLEASE GIVE ME FREE LEFORT AND BBSO I WAS THERE IN LOOKISM VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

giant fuck this nigga up!

 

[RealSurgerymax]

eh i would understand if it was a few people, but when it gets to a point where like 10 people make and run a account dedicated to trying to get in contact with you, it’s a communication problem u need to resolve

Yea

Giant PLEASE GIVE ME FREE LEFORT AND BBSO I WAS THERE IN LOOKISM VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Nothing good is free

giant fuck this nigga up!

 

[Andremln]

When are you retiring? And once you do will you leave an apprentice or some shit like that? Unironically my mom wants to get Infras and id pay for her surgery, but first, i have to get my face fixed, undergoing through DJS next year but my face will be all yours for the Implants, i have brutal upper maxillary deficiency.

By the way is it even possible to make Mastoid Implants? Haven't seen anyone talking about them for pencil neck cels, though i am not one, my bigonial is quite wide and i would visually benefit from a thicker neck

 

[esoterik]

Yea


Nothing good is free


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in the time from me sending my first email to you (which was never replied to, but tbf u did say later that was a inactive email?) i got in contact with pag, booked a consult with pag, booked surgery, got surgery & fully healed, i’m baffled tbh

 

[eon]

Taban was right about you..

 

[Lookologist003]

By the way is it even possible to make Mastoid Implants?

What the hell. How would that begin to work??

 

[Andremln]

What the hell. How would that begin to work??

Eppley has done them but it seems to work more for cranial discrepancies rather than bigonial - mastoid ones

Plastic Surgery Case Study - Custom Mastoid Skull Implants after Large Side of The Head Augmentation - Explore Plastic Surgery

To fill in the mastoid defect created by a prior large custom temporal implant augmentation, custom mastoid implants were designed and placed through an incision in the crease of the back of the ear.

www.exploreplasticsurgery.com

 

[Prøphet]

in the time from me sending my first email to you (which was never replied to, but tbf u did say later that was a inactive email?) i got in contact with pag, booked a consult with pag, booked surgery, got surgery & fully healed, i’m baffled tbh

Pagnoni I heard that guys a butcher

How happy are you with your result

 

[esoterik]

Pagnoni I heard that guys a butcher

How happy are you with your result

i’ll just paste my thoughts on pag vs other surgeons from a different thread here:

“pag is like a investor who takes alot of risks on weird stocks, ram is like s&p500, you cant call one better then the other, pag has better highlights, but ram has better botch rates”

my results were good because it was conservative

 

[devonhendryx999]

But giants been delaying my case for YEARS

He need to get off his LAZY ASS & GET TO WORK ON MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's showcased hundreds of people DMing him from that one insta post from 2024, can't grasp today

Surgical process is pretty hectic to deal with tbf if you have loads of niggas wanting to shove implants in their faces pretty much some are left behind

You wait for the waiter to serve the platter, but there are too many customers to handle at once.

 

[Lookologist003]

Eppley has done them but it seems to work more for cranial discrepancies rather than bigonial - mastoid ones

Plastic Surgery Case Study - Custom Mastoid Skull Implants after Large Side of The Head Augmentation - Explore Plastic Surgery

To fill in the mastoid defect created by a prior large custom temporal implant augmentation, custom mastoid implants were designed and placed through an incision in the crease of the back of the ear.

www.exploreplasticsurgery.com

Wow. The thing is that the mastoid process is where the sexy neck muscles terminate. The force of strong muscles cause it to grow, hence it is what anthropologists use to determine sex if they can't do that from the brow. If the area that the tendons connect to is larger then the muscle can grow bigger without strangling you in the first place. If the area is small and tapers inwards from the sexy neck muscles, then it limits how much you can train your neck.

Also I think the mastoid should be eclipsed by the bicondylar breadth. Every super defined jawline has this spacial relationship between mastoid process and bicondylar breadth. Whenever you can see the ramus from behind the face and head it is because of this spacial relationship.

 

[Andremln]

Wow. The thing is that the mastoid process is where the sexy neck muscles terminate. If the area that the tendons connect to is larger then the muscle can grow bigger without strangling you in the first place. If the area is small and tapers inwards from the sexy neck muscles, then it limits how much you can train your neck.

Also I think the mastoid should be eclipsed by the bicondylar breadth. Every super defined jawline has this spacial relationship between mastoid process and bicondylar breadth. Whenever you can see the ramus from behind the face and head it is because of this spacial relationship.

Right, which is why many users that have swore by neck training end up with OSA related symptoms, and ideally your neck should function as a pillar to connect your upper torso to your skull, vertically straight, and with SCM hypertrophy when you have a subpar mastoid process as you said, the middle of the neck will end up flaring out creating this ogre, unaesthetic transition into the base of your skull going inward.

Agreed as well on the second part, if i remember correctly the condyles can widen after BSSO due to torquing but the effects are minimal compared to Custom Implants and depend on mandibular arc and the angle of the saggital cut which depends on your base

 

[Lookologist003]

Right, which is why many users that have swore by neck training end up with OSA related symptoms,

Think about the free bimax though. High-IQ move. There's a lot of talk about trying to cheat sleep studies. Genuinely training your neck to constrict your airway might be the way. The doctors aren't going to suspect that you were autistically strapping a band to your neck and a weight.

depends on your base

Your cranial base!

 

[Andremln]

Think about the free bimax though. High-IQ move. There's a lot of talk about trying to cheat sleep studies. Genuinely training your neck to constrict your airway might be the way. The doctors aren't going to suspect that you were autistically strapping a band to your neck and a weight.


Your cranial base!

I already got my Bimax covered by insurance, undergoing through it next year, didn't even have to fraud the sleep study i have brutal hypoxia, every morning i wake up with a really painful headache that lasts for like 40 minutes, great way to start the day

By the way mind if i DM you?

 

[gravlek]

i’ll just paste my thoughts on pag vs other surgeons from a different thread here:

“pag is like a investor who takes alot of risks on weird stocks, ram is like s&p500, you cant call one better then the other, pag has better highlights, but ram has better botch rates”

my results were good because it was conservative

Did you ever post a results thread? I remember seeing you last year often under surgery posts

 

[kingofkings]

eh i would understand if it was a few people, but when it gets to a point where like 10 people make and run a account dedicated to trying to get in contact with you, it’s a communication problem u need to resolve

I was hoping Giant was starting fresh and he was going to be a good boy now. But then I saw this from earlier this month just a few days ago:

Liam, I’m attaching the message I just received from Dr. Ramieri. The Italian company has confirmed that 5:00 PM Italy time today is the latest deadline to keep my July 10 surgery on schedule. Dr. Ramieri has been trying to reach you repeatedly, and I’ve also tried Instagram, WhatsApp, email, and Looksmax.

Can you please tell me exactly where things stand? Have the files been completed and sent? If not, what still needs to be done, and is there any way to get everything to Dr. Ramieri before today’s deadline? I just need a clear update so I know what to expect.

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Attached screenshot implies Ramieri has repeatedly trying to contact Liam with no answer.

As it happens Liam did get the design delivered (past the deadline) and the surgery is still going ahead it seems. But as a patient I'd then worry he did the design as a rush job and didn't put the time and care into it each individual case deserves.

 

[Lookologist003]

didn't even have to fraud the sleep study

Brutal. Is it going to be with a blackpilled surgeon who will try also make you good-looking? I'm assuming you're not good-looking because, when do you ever hear of a good looking guy with airway issues. I guess the question is can insurance bimaxes do any good for a jawless incel? I don't know of any fantastic before-and-after of an insurance bimax. If it's so unlikely, then trying to defraud the healthcare system doesn't do anybody any good. Not the bluepilled doctors, not the blackpilled incel or looksmaxer.

 

[tyler1234]

But giants been delaying my case for YEARS

He need to get off his LAZY ASS & GET TO WORK ON MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is Timothy doing a revision

 

[RealSurgerymax]

is Timothy doing a revision

Its not a revision its a minor adjustment of a plate, which we are doing.

 

[yussimania]

I was hoping Giant was starting fresh and he was going to be a good boy now. But then I saw this from earlier this month just a few days ago:



Attached screenshot implies Ramieri has repeatedly trying to contact Liam with no answer.

As it happens Liam did get the design delivered (past the deadline) and the surgery is still going ahead it seems. But as a patient I'd then worry he did the design as a rush job and didn't put the time and care into it each individual case deserves.

Should've paid the double fee boyo

Averageness makes the world go around

 

[Lookologist003]

I guess the question is can insurance bimaxes do any good for a jawless incel?

Durr recall issue. I saw one on YouTube actually.



So insurance bimaxes can rock sometimes. I wonder what are the factors that go into it.

 

[Andremln]

Brutal. Is it going to be with a blackpilled surgeon who will try also make you good-looking? I'm assuming you're not good-looking because, when do you ever hear of a good looking guy with airway issues. I guess the question is can insurance bimaxes do any good for a jawless incel? I don't know of any fantastic before-and-after of an insurance bimax. If it's so unlikely, then trying to defraud the healthcare system doesn't do anybody any good. Not the bluepilled doctors, not the blackpilled incel or looksmaxer.

Yeah my surgeon is blackpilled, really takes into account aesthetics, he has been numerous times with Raffaini, Coceancig and some other big names hosting events dedicated to developing and innovating in MaxFac surgery

I will try to convince him to give me a Kufners Osteotomy because my upper maxilla is very deficient in bone and my whole midface looks hypoplastic, but regardless on if he accepts my request, he has shown me patients he operate on and had very aesthetically pleasing results

Yeah i am ugly, i consider my fully relaxed face (no jutting or frauding) to be a 3.8/10, though when i do jut my face changes a lot so i can survive off scraps and slay a ltb/mtb in the night club from time to time, sex without mutual desire is ass, and i recently promised myself to not involve myself with anyone on a romantic/sexual level until i reach an echelon of attractiveness deserving of actual worship. I believe that my failos + base make me a very good candidate for surgery, though you know how it is, most of the times we over exaggerate the reach it can have and make unrealistic expectations, id be very happy if after everything i end up being a 6/10 facially, from there id find a niche like growing out my hair or whatever, ill evaluate in the moment


What about you, have you had surgery already or planning to?

 

[esoterik]

I was hoping Giant was starting fresh and he was going to be a good boy now. But then I saw this from earlier this month just a few days ago:



Attached screenshot implies Ramieri has repeatedly trying to contact Liam with no answer.

As it happens Liam did get the design delivered (past the deadline) and the surgery is still going ahead it seems. But as a patient I'd then worry he did the design as a rush job and didn't put the time and care into it each individual case deserves.

i’m starting to think it’s beyond just him on vacation or him fucking around, he has real problems, he probably has ADHD since he just doesn’t give a fuck about deadlines or reaching out to people, maybe some adderall will get him in check, @RealSurgerymax consider getting adderall or vyvanse if the reason your doing this shit is because your lazy or don’t want to

 

[esoterik]

Did you ever post a results thread? I remember seeing you last year often under surgery posts

nah, i keep results private since this is probably the face i’ll be living for the rest of my life, and i don’t want it on a incel forum

 

[tyler1234]

i’ll just paste my thoughts on pag vs other surgeons from a different thread here:

“pag is like a investor who takes alot of risks on weird stocks, ram is like s&p500, you cant call one better then the other, pag has better highlights, but ram has better botch rates”

my results were good because it was conservative

Pag doesn’t risks

 

[Jgns]

i’m starting to think it’s beyond just him on vacation or him fucking around, he has real problems, he probably has ADHD since he just doesn’t give a fuck about deadlines or reaching out to people, maybe some adderall will get him in check, @RealSurgerymax consider getting adderall or vyvanse if the reason your doing this shit is because your lazy or don’t want to

Yeah honestly he prolly does got the same symptoms and it’s adhd

 

[compost_]

Too high inhib to get surgery with someone as great as Giant

 

[Lookologist003]

What about you, have you had surgery already or planning to?

I haven't had surgery. I don't think I'm mentally strong enough to go through it. I do need some kind of genioplasty and I think zygomatic implants.

I've been feeling more MGTOW recently. The situation in the West is so catastrophic that I want to tap out from trying to get a woman. Specifically, digesting the female laycount blackpill has depressed me thoroughly in the recent months of my life. That blackpills asks if it's even worth it. If it's even worth it past, 21. Because women have so much sex on the carousel from such a young age. This trend of average female lays skyrocketing is so new. It's not even one generation, which is why your parents may not act like Zoomer and Millennial foidlings. Basically if you can't get your girlfriend when she's young, she's going to have seen chads, talked to chads, fucked chads, fantasied about chad fucking her and his face. She will never forget how he made her feel. When that happens the women is spoilt and pair bonding ability is shot. And, because you are male and there are age cucks, you can't date younger girls (unless you're fucking rich and powerful). So I don't know where my life is heading. Hopefully to the grave.

I'm broke too and can barely afford my living expenses. It's fully over for me. But it's good that you have hope. Don't lose it.

 

[Lookologist003]

I will try to convince him to give me a Kufners Osteotomy

What could that be. Never have I heard of that in many many wasted weeks of rotting on Looksmax.

 

[Acquiescence]

I haven't had surgery. I don't think I'm mentally strong enough to go through it. I do need some kind of genioplasty and I think zygomatic implants.

I've been feeling more MGTOW recently. The situation in the West is so catastrophic that I want to tap out from trying to get a woman. Specifically, digesting the female laycount blackpill has depressed me thoroughly in the recent months of my life. That blackpills asks if it's even worth it. If it's even worth it past, 21. Because women have so much sex on the carousel from such a young age. This trend of average female lays skyrocketing is so new. It's not even one generation, which is why your parents may not act like Zoomer and Millennial foidlings. Basically if you can't get your girlfriend when she's young, she's going to have seen chads, talked to chads, fucked chads, fantasied about chad fucking her and his face. She will never forget how he made her feel. When that happens the women is spoilt and pair bonding ability is shot. And, because you are male and there are age cucks, you can't date younger girls (unless you're fucking rich and powerful). So I don't know where my life is heading. Hopefully to the grave.

I'm broke too and can barely afford my living expenses. It's fully over for me. But it's good that you have hope. Don't lose it.

So true!

If I wanted to Chaddify I need ol’ Giant to cook up the same surgeries he gave Ape

And I’d need to ring up Paley for LL

Meanwhile I can barely stack a band a month

And I turn 25 this month!



Giant is right, the ngmi pill comes for all us poorcels in the end

 

[Jgns]

I haven't had surgery. I don't think I'm mentally strong enough to go through it. I do need some kind of genioplasty and I think zygomatic implants.

I've been feeling more MGTOW recently. The situation in the West is so catastrophic that I want to tap out from trying to get a woman. Specifically, digesting the female laycount blackpill has depressed me thoroughly in the recent months of my life. That blackpills asks if it's even worth it. If it's even worth it past, 21. Because women have so much sex on the carousel from such a young age. This trend of average female lays skyrocketing is so new. It's not even one generation, which is why your parents may not act like Zoomer and Millennial foidlings. Basically if you can't get your girlfriend when she's young, she's going to have seen chads, talked to chads, fucked chads, fantasied about chad fucking her and his face. She will never forget how he made her feel. When that happens the women is spoilt and pair bonding ability is shot. And, because you are male and there are age cucks, you can't date younger girls (unless you're fucking rich and powerful). So I don't know where my life is heading. Hopefully to the grave.

I'm broke too and can barely afford my living expenses. It's fully over for me. But it's good that you have hope. Don't lose it.

How old are u

 

[zemult]

You should only be going to Giant if you actually want to ascend

 

[tyler1234]

So true!

If I wanted to Chaddify I need ol’ Giant to cook up the same surgeries he gave Ape

And I’d need to ring up Paley for LL

Meanwhile I can barely stack a band a month

And I turn 25 this month!



Giant is right, the ngmi pill comes for all us poorcels in the end
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Worlds first of someone saying that sentence

 

[iamgoingtoascend]

Its not a revision its a minor adjustment of a plate, which we are doing.

What about the midline and bite being off?

 

[lixxle17.]

But giants been delaying my case for YEARS

He need to get off his LAZY ASS & GET TO WORK ON MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DNR GAYBOY

 

[RealSurgerymax]

What about the midline and bite being off?

I said we are adjusting a plate that will fix all that.

 

[gravlek]

nah, i keep results private since this is probably the face i’ll be living for the rest of my life, and i don’t want it on a incel forum

What did you get done?

 

[iamgoingtoascend]

I said we are adjusting a plate that will fix all that.

Oh wait i get it, i forgot the plate is a bsso / jaw angle hybrid i thought you were talking about a singular jaw angle plate, and yeah adjusting a singular jaw angle plate would make no sense

so that implate was placed incorrectly (maybe cuz no wisdom teeth removal?), rendering the bsso asymmetrical which made the jaw / bite asymmetrical. So you go back in and put it in a better position and then its fixed

i think

 

[nexialistㅤ]

But giants been delaying my case for YEARS

He need to get off his LAZY ASS & GET TO WORK ON MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah all the good thing make you wait, love you Giant from Spain