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This thread is intended to be a companion piece to the @Kingkellz thread on sex appeal maxxing, which is in my opinion one of the most practical and helpful threads on the forum.
looksmax.org
I'm not going to go over again the points he covered, instead I'm going to supplement some more areas which I think will pair with his guide nicely.
The one note I will say on the previous guide is I don't recommend Dr. Elist's penile expansion implant due to some experiences like this one.
www.thundersplace.org
Long story short it fucked his dick up royally, he still isn't back to his old erect size, and he didn't even receive a refund.
As it stands now 1.5 years after surgery, my flaccid length and girth are same as before, my erect girth is about .25” bigger and my erect length is between 1-1.5” shorter.
If you want a bigger dick, my advice is to do research on PE techniques and to try those.
With that taken care of, let's jump in.
This thread is titled the way it is because these areas are huge "bang for your buck" areas in terms of dramatically increasing your sex appeal, compared to say facial surgeries.
Frame
Threads by @Moggy and @PrettyBoyMaxxing should have already shown you how powerful frame is. Now we're going to look at ways to increase it.
Clavicle Lengthening
The point of this guide is to focus on practical, non-surgical methods for the most part, however this will be one of two exceptions, the other being hair transplants. If you're lacking in the biacromial area, some surgeons can perform clavicular osteotomies to lengthen it. Dr. Eppley is one of these surgeons. However, he considers it an extreme option due to these reasons:
1) Only one shoulder is done at a time with a 3 to 6 month spacing between the two sides.
2) Recovery would be considered similar to that of a fractured clavicle.
3) It requires plate and screw fixation with an interpositional allogeneic bone graft.
4) There will be a resultant scar over the clavicular osteotomy site.
5) Clavicular gap widening would be 2 to 2.5 cms maximum.
2.5 cms for each gap is about an inch on each side, making for nearly a 2 inch increase total. Different sites report different average biacromials, some studies concluded the modern American average for men is 16 inches, which seems reasonable. Two inches therefore is a massive increase.
For reference, this would take your biacromial from average to 99th percentile. I believe the surgery was quoted at 20k, but prices may have changed since then.
Now who actually is going to get a clavicle lengthening done, I'm not sure. Its by far the least practical thing suggested in this guide.
Lifting
This is a more practical way to increase your bideltoid that anyone can do. It has the nice bonus of improving your body as well.
This thread discusses the question of how much of an increase to bideltoid you can expect through gymcelling.
Getting Lean
I don't need to tell you how important this is. Even if you're the type who thinks you can ascend to Chad through hardmaxxing, you're never going to be able to look good unless you're lean. I'm currently in the process of becoming lean myself, and I wanted to illustrate a few methods for you all.
The Conservative Method
This is the more straightforward method of calorie restriction to achieve steady, controlled weight loss. Applying this is simple, you figure out your TDEE and reduce portion sizes. Tried and true, most who attempt this fail at it but that's usually due to willpower. If you do use this method, try to weigh yourself at least weekly to gauge how much you're losing and if you should increase or decrease your calorie consumption.
Now for more extreme options.
Fasting
There are two big names in fasting that I've come across so far - Cole Robinson, and Jason Fung. I'll be making reference mostly to Cole's ideas here, as he's basically an extreme weight loss coach.
Here's his channel. The basic idea of the Snake Diet is
1. Fast long and hard until you are lean.
2. When you get lean, live a fasting-focused lifestyle and stay lean while not fasting as long or intensely.
Cole advises you to create an electrolyte solution called snake juice, which can allow you to fast safely for extended periods of time. Listen to your body - if something doesn't feel right, gently break the fast and try again.
You will lose a ton of water weight initially fastng (great way to de-bloat) and each day you can expect to lose about .76-1 lb of fat, IIRC. You can build momentum and shed weight very quickly.
Fasting with Exercise
For even faster results, you could combine fasting with forms of exercise in order to speed up the process. Low intensity, steady-state cardio is great for this. Something like an exercise bike you can ride for a while is perfect. Even something as simple as taking a long walk every day can dramatically speed up results.
ECA Stack
For even more weightloss assistance, here's an excellent guide on the ECA Stack, by @Blackout.xl
I'm not sure if you should combine this with extended fasting or not. Please do your own research before you decide to do that, if you are thinking about it.
Hair
Hair is insanely important and is one of those areas where, just like getting lean, fixing it alone can give you a profound boost in your actual attractiveness. Here I'm going to share with you a set of solutions to improve hair, including what I am planning on doing for myself. I'm going to try to stay away from what has been repeated on the forum tons of times, and instead to offer my own unique perspective.
Finasteride
Finasteride is a controversial topic here although many users take it. I'm not here to persuade, but instead to share some tips that could ease your mind about the process.
www.oatext.com
This study examined finasteride use over ten years and found that
-91.5% of men improved.
-99.1% of men prevented progression of balding.
The chances of side effects are already rather low, but to stave them off, one lesser known tip is to supplement I-3-C. This supplement acts as I believe an estrogen antagonist, and many are of the notion it can help reduce finasteride sides by balancing estrogen levels.
If you do end up with ED related sides, some users of fin solve this with use of cialis (which is also benefical to hair via increasing blood flow).
Hair Transplants
For most of you who are actually in the process of balding, you're somewhere in the NW2-3 zone. I believe this can be most practically fixed with a combination of finasteride and hair transplants, without ever having to go through more intense chemical or hormonal routes trying to get back your temples or waiting on treatments to release.
Here's one of the best transplant results I've seen, for density:
Hair System
If you're too far gone in the balding process for a transplant to restore your hair, or if you want to roid or don't like the idea of finasteride, a hair system might be the solution for you.
looksmax.org
Here's a guide on hair systems.
The point of this section is that hair loss is a solved problem, cosmetically speaking. Even if you have to resort to hair systems, there is a way for you to have good hair. This alone grants you a big halo and a significant advantage over someone else.
NT Maxxing
I'm not about to try and write a guide on how to do this, this section will instead be composed of a few thoughts I had on the subject of NT maxxing, some of which were naturally generated from my last thread.
You might see yourself as "different" but chances are you are just like anyone else, you're a human being and your "social brain" works pretty much the same way. This is a good thing, because you can use it to your advantage. The more time you spend rotting here, or in any online space that you start to consider a "community" the more you will subconsciously adjust to being NT relative to that community. This is how your underlying strategization proceses work to get the tribe to accept you. Of course, this makes your actual life worse, because you are maladjusted to the actual community around you in real life.
To fix this problem, stop meeting your sociliazation needs on here and instead start meeting them in real life as best as you possibly can. If you have to meet them online, try to do so through NT social media or arranging hangouts with physical people you actual know. Try to come here only for information, like reading a newspaper.
We're all blackpilled and we know looks determine how people treat you. So while you're working on NT maxxing, work also on your looks and both should complement each other. The value you build through your looks will help your NT maxxing go more smoothly and the value you build internally in NT maxxing will help you get your life together, ultimately helping you further improve your looks.
This is the third thread that I've made as a parting gift, the first two were my guide on phenotypes and my myth of ascension thread.
Threads I've quoted:
@Kingkellz
@PrettyBoyMaxxing
@Blackout.xl
@Gaia262
Have to give a shoutout to
@Kade
as well, for being the father of sex appeal maxxing on .me.
Other friends and requested tags:
@Rift678 @Fuk @PrettyBoyMaxxing @yang @EthnicelAscension @chadpreetinthemaking @Blackout.xl @ht-normie-ascending @Notuglyjustpoor @PenileFacialSurgery @TubOfLard @dotacel @Gudru @ArabIncel @curryslayerordeath @Aesthetic @Goblin @LookistWorld @Dogs
SEX APPEAL MAXXING {Official Guide}
1) DEEP VOICE Voice, as a secondary sexual characteristic, is known to affect the perceived attractiveness of human individuals. Men with deeper/low-pitched voices signal large body size (which is sexually dimorphic), attract more women, father more children, intimidate other men, and command...
looksmax.org
The one note I will say on the previous guide is I don't recommend Dr. Elist's penile expansion implant due to some experiences like this one.
My Elist Implant Experience
I wanted to take a minute to share my experience with Dr. Elist. I will let you know up front that this is going to be a long post. It is a play-by-play of my experience with pictures. I hope that others appreciate it and find it helpful. Let me first say that my initial impression of Dr. Elist...
www.thundersplace.org
As it stands now 1.5 years after surgery, my flaccid length and girth are same as before, my erect girth is about .25” bigger and my erect length is between 1-1.5” shorter.
If you want a bigger dick, my advice is to do research on PE techniques and to try those.
With that taken care of, let's jump in.
This thread is titled the way it is because these areas are huge "bang for your buck" areas in terms of dramatically increasing your sex appeal, compared to say facial surgeries.
Frame
Threads by @Moggy and @PrettyBoyMaxxing should have already shown you how powerful frame is. Now we're going to look at ways to increase it.
Clavicle Lengthening
The point of this guide is to focus on practical, non-surgical methods for the most part, however this will be one of two exceptions, the other being hair transplants. If you're lacking in the biacromial area, some surgeons can perform clavicular osteotomies to lengthen it. Dr. Eppley is one of these surgeons. However, he considers it an extreme option due to these reasons:
1) Only one shoulder is done at a time with a 3 to 6 month spacing between the two sides.
2) Recovery would be considered similar to that of a fractured clavicle.
3) It requires plate and screw fixation with an interpositional allogeneic bone graft.
4) There will be a resultant scar over the clavicular osteotomy site.
5) Clavicular gap widening would be 2 to 2.5 cms maximum.
2.5 cms for each gap is about an inch on each side, making for nearly a 2 inch increase total. Different sites report different average biacromials, some studies concluded the modern American average for men is 16 inches, which seems reasonable. Two inches therefore is a massive increase.
For reference, this would take your biacromial from average to 99th percentile. I believe the surgery was quoted at 20k, but prices may have changed since then.
Now who actually is going to get a clavicle lengthening done, I'm not sure. Its by far the least practical thing suggested in this guide.
Lifting
This is a more practical way to increase your bideltoid that anyone can do. It has the nice bonus of improving your body as well.
This thread discusses the question of how much of an increase to bideltoid you can expect through gymcelling.
Getting Lean
I don't need to tell you how important this is. Even if you're the type who thinks you can ascend to Chad through hardmaxxing, you're never going to be able to look good unless you're lean. I'm currently in the process of becoming lean myself, and I wanted to illustrate a few methods for you all.
The Conservative Method
This is the more straightforward method of calorie restriction to achieve steady, controlled weight loss. Applying this is simple, you figure out your TDEE and reduce portion sizes. Tried and true, most who attempt this fail at it but that's usually due to willpower. If you do use this method, try to weigh yourself at least weekly to gauge how much you're losing and if you should increase or decrease your calorie consumption.
Now for more extreme options.
Fasting
There are two big names in fasting that I've come across so far - Cole Robinson, and Jason Fung. I'll be making reference mostly to Cole's ideas here, as he's basically an extreme weight loss coach.
1. Fast long and hard until you are lean.
2. When you get lean, live a fasting-focused lifestyle and stay lean while not fasting as long or intensely.
Cole advises you to create an electrolyte solution called snake juice, which can allow you to fast safely for extended periods of time. Listen to your body - if something doesn't feel right, gently break the fast and try again.
You will lose a ton of water weight initially fastng (great way to de-bloat) and each day you can expect to lose about .76-1 lb of fat, IIRC. You can build momentum and shed weight very quickly.
Fasting with Exercise
For even faster results, you could combine fasting with forms of exercise in order to speed up the process. Low intensity, steady-state cardio is great for this. Something like an exercise bike you can ride for a while is perfect. Even something as simple as taking a long walk every day can dramatically speed up results.
ECA Stack
For even more weightloss assistance, here's an excellent guide on the ECA Stack, by @Blackout.xl
I'm not sure if you should combine this with extended fasting or not. Please do your own research before you decide to do that, if you are thinking about it.
Hair
Hair is insanely important and is one of those areas where, just like getting lean, fixing it alone can give you a profound boost in your actual attractiveness. Here I'm going to share with you a set of solutions to improve hair, including what I am planning on doing for myself. I'm going to try to stay away from what has been repeated on the forum tons of times, and instead to offer my own unique perspective.
Finasteride
Finasteride is a controversial topic here although many users take it. I'm not here to persuade, but instead to share some tips that could ease your mind about the process.
Long-term (10-year) efficacy of finasteride in 523 Japanese men with androgenetic alopecia
OA Text is an independent open-access scientific publisher showcases innovative research and ideas aimed at improving health by linking research and practice to the benefit of society.
-91.5% of men improved.
-99.1% of men prevented progression of balding.
The chances of side effects are already rather low, but to stave them off, one lesser known tip is to supplement I-3-C. This supplement acts as I believe an estrogen antagonist, and many are of the notion it can help reduce finasteride sides by balancing estrogen levels.
If you do end up with ED related sides, some users of fin solve this with use of cialis (which is also benefical to hair via increasing blood flow).
Hair Transplants
For most of you who are actually in the process of balding, you're somewhere in the NW2-3 zone. I believe this can be most practically fixed with a combination of finasteride and hair transplants, without ever having to go through more intense chemical or hormonal routes trying to get back your temples or waiting on treatments to release.
Here's one of the best transplant results I've seen, for density:
Hair System
If you're too far gone in the balding process for a transplant to restore your hair, or if you want to roid or don't like the idea of finasteride, a hair system might be the solution for you.
A Guide: The Solution to Hairloss - For Anyone Who Is Losing their Hair
As people are aware balding/being bald is a detriment to ones looks barring a few key celebrities. I have seen nothing but poor advice being given on this website so though to create a guide to deal with this issue once and for all and would appreciate that it is stickied/pinned for future...
looksmax.org
The point of this section is that hair loss is a solved problem, cosmetically speaking. Even if you have to resort to hair systems, there is a way for you to have good hair. This alone grants you a big halo and a significant advantage over someone else.
NT Maxxing
I'm not about to try and write a guide on how to do this, this section will instead be composed of a few thoughts I had on the subject of NT maxxing, some of which were naturally generated from my last thread.
You might see yourself as "different" but chances are you are just like anyone else, you're a human being and your "social brain" works pretty much the same way. This is a good thing, because you can use it to your advantage. The more time you spend rotting here, or in any online space that you start to consider a "community" the more you will subconsciously adjust to being NT relative to that community. This is how your underlying strategization proceses work to get the tribe to accept you. Of course, this makes your actual life worse, because you are maladjusted to the actual community around you in real life.
To fix this problem, stop meeting your sociliazation needs on here and instead start meeting them in real life as best as you possibly can. If you have to meet them online, try to do so through NT social media or arranging hangouts with physical people you actual know. Try to come here only for information, like reading a newspaper.
We're all blackpilled and we know looks determine how people treat you. So while you're working on NT maxxing, work also on your looks and both should complement each other. The value you build through your looks will help your NT maxxing go more smoothly and the value you build internally in NT maxxing will help you get your life together, ultimately helping you further improve your looks.
This is the third thread that I've made as a parting gift, the first two were my guide on phenotypes and my myth of ascension thread.
Threads I've quoted:
@Kingkellz
@PrettyBoyMaxxing
@Blackout.xl
@Gaia262
Have to give a shoutout to
@Kade
as well, for being the father of sex appeal maxxing on .me.
Other friends and requested tags:
@Rift678 @Fuk @PrettyBoyMaxxing @yang @EthnicelAscension @chadpreetinthemaking @Blackout.xl @ht-normie-ascending @Notuglyjustpoor @PenileFacialSurgery @TubOfLard @dotacel @Gudru @ArabIncel @curryslayerordeath @Aesthetic @Goblin @LookistWorld @Dogs
