slavs arent white

not opposing evil and being good just shows ur low test bro
Wtf is this retarded ass take? even my takes here arent as bad

Good and evil are subjective
 
sure, bro
just tell urself whatever makes u happy
Nigga u talking about urself?

prove anything is objectivly bad

Morality is dependent on ur own made up framework
 
that’s not objectively wrong (i would never do it, can’t say it’s objectively wrong though)
it is man
there is no moral standpoint that would justify killing innocent children
therefore it is objectively and morally bad
 
The genetic differences between a somali and west african are more vast than ones between slavs and germanics, but yes also the existence of subraces within races does not disqualify them as not being part of the black race. this is how even racial anthropologists from the 19th century viewed european races which you ironically reject lol
The issue are those umbrella terms than, we should go back to identifying ourselfs based on our tribes
 
give me a realistic scenario where it would be ok to kill a innocent child lil nigga
Im not gonna sit here and prove a negetive

Its on you to prove ur claim
 
it is man
there is no moral standpoint that would justify killing innocent children
therefore it is objectively and morally bad
the fact that you need systems or “moral standpoints” means that it’s wrong according to something

doing it is not objectively wrong, it’s wrong through certain lenses
 
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yea true facts

Nope. It was originally mostly exclusive to anglo saxons. Fucking retarted ass take
"The Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth." - Benjamin franklin although he was one of the few founding fathers that had prejudices to even germans he considered all of them to be white and that white to the founding fathers meant euro descent

"Hamilton said... that all the old world [Europe] was in a state of alignment... that there was no such thing as a regular government there... that we were the only republic of the white race in existence." - Thomas Jefferson grouping all of europe into the white race

also slavs fell under the legal definitions of white stated by the Naturalization Act of 1790
"The General congratulates the army on the very interesting intelligence lately received of the pious and generous efforts of the inhabitants of Ireland to succour the liberties of America... [He] directs that all fatigues and working parties cease for to-morrow... [to] celebrate the day with a more than common pleasure." - George Washington
"We have had too many Irishmen among us, but they are our fellow-men of Europe, and we must treat them with justice." - John Addams


your retarded anglo saxon only american fantasy falls apart when faced with the actual reality of what the founding fathers believed
 
Im not gonna sit here and prove a negetive

Its on you to prove ur claim
thanks for prooving my point that there is no scenario where its ok to harm a inncent child

that prooves that there is morality

cus if ther was 0 objective morality then u coud just give me some random example
 
The issue are those umbrella terms than, we should go back to identifying ourselfs based on our tribes
White being a race that includes all of europe does not disqualify subraces within itself like nordic, slavic, celtic or etc, trying to coopt the term white to say it only applies to YOUR group is just retarded
 
it is man
there is no moral standpoint that would justify killing innocent children
therefore it is objectively and morally bad
Actually there is, wiping out enemy races is normal and pillaging villages which includes the death of children is quite normal throughout history, morality has never been objective or fully applied to every single person, especially when differing nations are in play
 
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"The Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth." - Benjamin franklin although he was one of the few founding fathers that had prejudices to even germans he considered all of them to be white and that white to the founding fathers meant euro descent

"Hamilton said... that all the old world [Europe] was in a state of alignment... that there was no such thing as a regular government there... that we were the only republic of the white race in existence." - Thomas Jefferson grouping all of europe into the white race

also slavs fell under the legal definitions of white stated by the Naturalization Act of 1790
"The General congratulates the army on the very interesting intelligence lately received of the pious and generous efforts of the inhabitants of Ireland to succour the liberties of America... [He] directs that all fatigues and working parties cease for to-morrow... [to] celebrate the day with a more than common pleasure." - George Washington
"We have had too many Irishmen among us, but they are our fellow-men of Europe, and we must treat them with justice." - John Addams


your retarded anglo saxon only american fantasy falls apart when faced with the actual reality of what the founding fathers believed
How does Benjamin Franklin help ur take? White originally ment Anglo Saxon and theres nothing u can do about that. Idc about what some niggas a 100 years later taking the term white and putting everyone in Europe under that umbrella term, and I definitely don’t give afk that some niggas 400 years later dna tested the Slavs and found the most aryan dna lol.
 
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thanks for prooving my point that there is no scenario where its ok to harm a inncent child

that prooves that there is morality

cus if ther was 0 objective morality then u coud just give me some random example
It’s no ok and it’s bad, every judgment u make of an act is subjective. I never claimed it was ok or bad
 
How does Benjamin Franklin help ur take? White originally mentioned Anglo Saxon theres nothing u can do about.
Because benjamin franklin regarded all euros as swarthy but states that they are all of the european race (though he also specifically took this back and stopped viewing them as swarthy), also every quote i sent completely disproves that take with the irish and spainards with the founding fathers, your claim has zero basis nor any backing
Idc about what some niggas a 100 years later putting everyone in Europe under that umbrella term, and I definitely don’t give afk that some niggas 400 years later dna tested the Slavs and found the most aryan dna lol
White is not some feel good cultural word, its a real biological race which we have classified, if you dont care abt actual evidence or definitions then don't bother starting these debates considering you arent smart enough to do so
 
Actually there is, wiping out enemy races is normal and pillaging villages which includes the death of children is quite normal throughout history, morality has never been objective or fully applied to every single person, especially when differing nations are in play
nope

just cus sth has been happining doesnt make it ok
 
Because benjamin franklin regarded all euros as swarthy but states that they are all of the european race (though he also specifically took this back and stopped viewing them as swarthy), also every quote i sent completely disproves that take with the irish and spainards with the founding fathers, your claim has zero basis nor any backing

White is not some feel good cultural word, its a real biological race which we have classified, if you dont care abt actual evidence or definitions then don't bother starting these debates considering you arent smart enough to do so
Im asking how that specific Benjamin Franklin quote support ur take? Genuinely
 
nope

just cus sth has been happining doesnt make it ok
You claimed that all peoples saw it as a unique objective evil but at the same time throughout history they have regularly not applied this to their enemies or outside nations, morality is very much subjective.
 
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You claimed that all peoples saw it as a unique objective evil but at the same time throughout history they have regularly not applied this to their enemies or outside nations, morality is very much subjective.
just cus it happend desnt mean it was morally good
 
Im asking how that specific Benjamin Franklin quote support ur take? Genuinely
Because his take was borderline retarded and was in the minority (which he also took back), it shows how stupid these views are considering the anglo saxons he speak of were of germanic descent. also funny how you ONLY focus on this part because you cant address any other point
 
just cus it happend desnt mean it was morally good
Ur framework has been - if all people agree on something, that their judgment is correct.

Dont switch up now
 
aka human lenses

if everyone shares the same opinion its objective
everyone shares that opinion lil bro
ur actually retarded no offense

“human lenses” aren’t a thing

“everyone” here is just the majority, not actually everyone
 
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In Ancient Greece and Rome pedophilia was normal. What are ur thoughts?
again, just cus sth happened doesnt make it morally good

those pedophiles were probably very concious that what they were doing was evil. they just did it cus others did it too
 
again, just cus sth happened doesnt make it morally good

those pedophiles were probably very concious that what they were doing was evil. they just did it cus others did it too
Let’s not play the assumption games.

U are changing frameworks consistently: first it was if majority agree on something, their judgment is objective, now it’s “they knew deep down they were evil”
 
Let’s not play the assumption games.

U are changing frameworks consistently: first it was if majority agree on something, their judgment is objective, now it’s “they knew deep down they were evil”
no, im saying:

eveyone knows killing innocent kids is evil

the ones who did it know it was evil but still did it
same with peophilea
 
Because his take was borderline retarded and was in the minority (which he also took back), it shows how stupid these views are considering the anglo saxons he speak of were of germanic descent. also funny how you ONLY focus on this part because you cant address any other point
Also we have multiple direct quotes of the founding fathers praising slavic figures here
“Count Pułaski... is a gentleman of high birth and character in his own country, celebrated for his military exploits... He seems to be a man of real merit and usefulness.” - washington

“He is as pure a son of liberty as I have ever known, and of that liberty which is to go to all, not to the few or the rich alone.” - thomas jefferson

here james maddison argues that america should accept all european immigrants
“When we are considering the advantages that may result from an easy access of foreigners... I should be led to believe that the landholder would be the most useful citizen... It is no doubt our interest to invite the foreigners of Europe to our country...”

and in thomas jefferson's Notes on the State of Virginia jefferson explicitly
equated "white" with anyone of European descent when listing the racial populations of America. He categorized the population simply as:
“...the 1. whites, 2. blacks, 3. indigenous...”
 

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