So is cold approach retarded? Or any way to make it work somewhat reliably?

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

anybody had success? it's giga weird to do so I guess I'm asking how to make it less weird? of course nothing is weird for chad

fuck am I really asking for pua advice

 

[LifeIsACope]

Highest chance of it working is in settings where people are open to being cold approached like clubs and bars. Not saying it cannot work anywhere else I am just saying there are certain places where it is normal and people are ready to be cold approached (looking good to go out to club with friends etc.). Lowest chance of it working is gym. NEVER cold approach at gym.

 

[Romeo1111]

I have had succes every now and then but its easier with other approaches in my experience

 

[Deleted member 9568]

if you are with a friend and they are giving you signals it's np. Never alone lol

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

yes it is

only worth it if you have universal appeal aka chad

 

[betamanlet]

Women have cold approached me many times and more often than not it has got me laid.

 

[alriodai]

over if you got pure aryan genetics and girls DON'T cold approach you

 

[randomuser2407]

Cold approaching doesn't attract women but it can make you succeed with those who are already attracted to you but too shy to talk to you.

The reason why most men get rejected a lot when doing it is because most men are unattractive.

Most men date women who are within their social circles because of the element of trust but they are still limited by their low SMV, which is why even an average looking man who is a social butterfly will have very limited dating options, unless he is has good connections in a club or some other venue where status can help.

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

Cold approaching doesn't attract women but it can make you succeed with those who are already attracted to you but too shy to talk to you.

The reason why most men get rejected a lot when doing it is because most men are unattractive.

Most men date women who are within their social circles because of the element of trust but they are still limited by their low SMV, which is why even an average looking man who is a social butterfly will have very limited dating options, unless he is has good connections in a club or some other venue where status can help.

honestly any time I've scored with cold approach you could instantly see the foid cheer up. if she doesn't it's over. but is there any foid that's responsive to cold approach but too shy to ioi(at which point it's not cold)? I doubt it.

 

[Deleted member 8666]

Treat cold approach as a way to hone your social skills.
Learn how to open conversations with new people.
Learn how to hook conversations, and make people more interested in talking to you.
Learn how to convey value without looking try hard, like with storytelling .
Learn how to throw in a flirt or two.
Learn how to barely escalate.
Then, take those skills, and start your own social circle. You'll be someone who has forced his personality to change. You'll be more comfortable with being charming, outgoing, fun and social which helps girls around you become somewhat attracted to you.

But, don't do this with the expectation of sleeping with 100s of women. That's so unrealistic. First of all, you are not that attractive, but also, a lot of the people you talk to are probably already in a relationship, or seeing someone, or at the very least thinking about another guy who is in their social circle. There could be the rare exception, like at nightclubs or bars where the girl is just dtf, but usually this won't work.

So, just treat cold approaching for what it is. A way to be a social guy who talks to everyone, and who flirts with cute women wherever he goes.
And btw, what I said right there is actually completely socially normal. A lot of guys in the real world walk through life talking to strangers, having conversations that may or may not lead to a connection(with guys and girls), flirting with strangers just because that's their natural personality. The biggest difference is they aren't try hard about it. They aren't going to run down the street trying to chase a girl, they aren't going to jump in front of a girl, and they sure as hell aren't going to use retarded lines they read on the internet which usually don't even result in a proper conversation.

 

[eduardkoopman]

is it retarded? yes, MOST of the time. Ocassionally it can happen and look 100% natural, when a certain situation
Or any way to make it work somewhat reliably? Work, as in get dates/etc..That depaneds on looks mostly
anybody had success? me, less than 1%
how to make it less weird? 1. be 100% okay with letting go alot of women. because most situations in daly life are weid to take action; only in a small window is not weird or less weird. 2, be social/chatty guy in general.
of course nothing is weird for chad? WITH Chad it can still be weird, but he is forgiven.

Lets reverse it!
1. An ugly fat woman, speaks with yo in daily life smoothly, naturally, and perfectly timed, etc.. Will it work that you go on date with her??? No.
2. A Stacy, bad timing, she says things that are not smooth, she is a bit awkaward doin it. Will it work that you go on date wih her??? Yes.

It's not easy thing to do. It's difficult. In daily random life.
So propps a little for anyone doing it. Good for maxxing convo skills. Because its freaking brutals.
It's like doing stand up comedy somewhere, mostly unprepared, and everyone is in the mood the heckle you.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Cold approach is the heaviest lookspill you can imagine.

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

is it retarded? yes, MOST of the time. Ocassionally it can happen and look 100% natural, when a certain situation
Or any way to make it work somewhat reliably? Work, as in get dates/etc..That depaneds on looks mostly
anybody had success? me, less than 1%
how to make it less weird? 1. be 100% okay with letting go alot of women. because most situations in daly life are weid to take action; only in a small window is not weird or less weird. 2, be social/chatty guy in general.
of course nothing is weird for chad? WITH Chad it can still be weird, but he is forgiven.

Lets reverse it!
1. An ugly fat woman, speaks with yo in daily life smoothly, naturally, and perfectly timed, etc.. Will it work that you go on date with her??? No.
2. A Stacy, bad timing, she says things that are not smooth, she is a bit awkaward doin it. Will it work that you go on date wih her??? Yes.

It's not easy thing to do. It's difficult. In daily random life.
So propps a little for anyone doing it. Good for maxxing convo skills. Because its freaking brutals.
It's like doing stand up comedy somewhere, mostly unprepared, and everyone is in the mood the heckle you.

your writing style is always funny. appreciate it boyo

 

[eduardkoopman]

your writing style is always funny. appreciate it boyo

i type like this.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Cold approach is the heaviest lookspill you can imagine.

it's like Tinder swiping. IRL

 

[volcelfatcel]

it's like Tinder swiping. IRL

It's quite literally the ultimate lookspill, if u are bluepilled go cold approach and see how much looks matter then get ur Chad friend to cold approach and see success rate.

 

[datboijj]

if you don't catch women secretly taking pictures of you
or putting you on ticktock with the caption "find this man for me"
don't cold approach

 

[eduardkoopman]

It's quite literally the ultimate lookspill, if u are bluepilled go cold approach and see how much looks matter then get ur Chad friend to cold approach and see success rate.

Damn. I recall.
Me, low tier normie, but not a loser. needing 200-300 chat ups for my first lay.
And this NEET Chadlite loser older dude, living in 30's in a student dorm. Had a gf and stuffs, in a really short time already when chatting up womens.

Brutals.
400 Weeks.
1 Meeks

 

[volcelfatcel]

Damn. I recall.
Me, low tier normie, but not a loser. needing 200-300 chat ups for my first lay.
And this NEET Chadlite loser older dude, living in 30's in a student dorm. Had a gf and stuffs, in a really short time already when chatting up womens.

Brutals.
400 Weeks.
1 Meeks

Indeed no matter how many bluepills @Biggdink photographer of Asian couples throws at me. Lookspill is full force real tbh looks are ur personality looks are most of ur life

 

[SOS-Sonic]

Women have cold approached me many times and more often than not it has got me laid.

AlphaChadlet*

 

[eduardkoopman]

Indeed no matter how many bluepills @Biggdink photographer of Asian couples throws at me. Lookspill is full force real tbh looks are ur personality looks are most of ur life

LOL @ I was still largely oblivious to that, back in that day of the story I just told.
Mainly because i didn't wanna accept I was low tier normie in looks, and I beleived I was like a 7.5/10, and I kept hitting on hot women.

 

[volcelfatcel]

LOL @ I was still largely oblivious to that, back in that day of the story I just told.
Mainly because i didn't wanna accept I was low tier normie in looks, and I beleived I was like a 7.5/10, and I get aiming hitting on hot women.

Yup entire mannerisms are dictated by your face, you cannot be confident with a bad face because you are not supposed to be confident.

https://looksmax.org/threads/i-beli...w-pill-called-realitypill.347008/post-5800008

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

if you don't catch women secretly taking pictures of you
or putting you on ticktock with the caption "find this man for me"
don't cold approach

what to do then? for hqnp ltr. or is it just over after school

 

[datboijj]

what to do then? for hqnp ltr. or is it just over after school

Well i plan on meeting someone at some raw vegan event or something
you need to find some niche that you are into that some women or into
or some kind of community that is for a good cause or builds character or hobby whatever
can't be going around aimlessly after school

 

[Lawton88]

I don't think it works that often unless she has already given clues she might like your looks. Women take just a few seconds to decide whether a guy is someone they might consider acceptable looks wise usually. So if you didn't meet her minimum there nothing is going to change that usually. My rule for years has been either let them approach me or see clear signals from her that she is is checking me out.Not giving them the satisfaction to shoot me down. I let some do that when I was younger but don't play that game anymore.

 

[Deleted member 8856]

People think that everyone except Chad get rejected on cold approach. When in reality even Chad gets rejected ALOT cold approaching. Look up James Tusk on YT, he is Chad and gets rejected tons still. Though if you are Chad your success rate will obviously be higher as long as you can talk

 

[eduardkoopman]

People think that everyone except Chad get rejected on cold approach. When in reality even Chad gets rejected ALOT cold approaching. Look up James Tusk on YT, he is Chad and gets rejected tons still. Though if you are Chad your success rate will obviously be higher as long as you can talk

Chadlite. But yeah, you are right. He probably gets straight up rejected half the time. And the remaining half, there is a real obstacle why can't date, Which makes 25% at best, can lead to a form of meetup. That's probably the best possible odds out there, when being Chad/Chadlite.

 

[eduardkoopman]

what to do then? for hqnp ltr. or is it just over after school

I don't think it works that often unless she has already given clues she might like your looks. Women take just a few seconds to decide whether a guy is someone they might consider acceptable looks wise usually. So if you didn't meet her minimum there nothing is going to change that usually. My rule for years has been either let them approach me or see clear signals from her that she is is checking me out.Not giving them the satisfaction to shoot me down. I let some do that when I was younger but don't play that game anymore.

This is kinda true.
I was strict celibate Buddhist (monk ISH lifestyle) for a long time. And in for example that niche of meditation, religious getherings, spiritual group activities, etc. Filled with single women.
Would had been a decent environment, to meet women in a less retarded way than cold approach.
A group with a decent turn over of new people's coming in would help a lot. Not to much static group

 

[wristcel]

Almost all of my lays have come from cold approach.

Do it in bars and stuff - Social places. Places that are considered social. Running up to girls whilst they're shopping or walking to work etc is just stupid.

There's no cheat codes. No 'game' is gonna make an unattracted girl wanna bang you (and i've read every book and watched every premium product about game lol), so embrace the numbers game. You are essentially just flirting, and seeing whether she is into you or not. If she is, escalate. If she isn't, move on to the next girl

I get rejected a shit load (expected since i'm not good looking). Sometimes by girls who aren't even hot. But i've also banged girls way younger than me and far better looking. Numbers game

what kind of PSL required to bang these girls

Sometimes I think that even though i'm on the ugly side (big nose, receding and weak jaw/chin are main facial issues) i've not done terribly with girls which makes scared of surgery. Especially after seeing bodge jobs recently! Curious about the standards of the forum after reading some of...

looksmax.org

 

[eduardkoopman]

There's no cheat codes. No 'game' is gonna make an unattracted girl wanna bang you (and i've read every book and watched every premium product about game lol), so embrace the numbers game. You are essentially just flirting, and seeing whether she is into you or not. If she is, escalate. If she isn't, move on to the next girl

Lmao, reading every dating advice book out there.
BRUTALS.

I get rejected a shit load (expected since i'm not good looking). Sometimes by girls who aren't even hot. But i've also banged girls way younger than me and far better looking. Numbers game

1%?
Thatr lower than 1% was my succes rate (succes = defined by me with sex)

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

tbh cold approach was giga blackpill for me because just fucking around with foids in social setting like university a lot of them like it and get interested while cold approach is a struggle and much lower percentage. but it would be god tier if it worked reliably tbhtbh. just pick any foid you want

 

[eduardkoopman]

tbh cold approach was giga blackpill for me because just fucking around with foids in social setting like university a lot of them like it and get interested while cold approach is a struggle and much lower percentage. but it would be god tier if it worked reliably tbhtbh. just pick any foid you want

Downsides
The downsides with cold appraoch, chatting up a random in daily lofe. Without a sopcial context.

1. half or more of them will be in a relationship, uninterested in dating for whatever reasons, bad day/mood, hurry to get somewhere, etc.. So you will be instantly rejected based on tyhat
2. 10%-20% orso of people have some form of social anxiety and can't deal with something spontanious/unexpected, so she gets a social panic attack, and you get some type of bad reaction/rejection.
3. And the remaining ones. Depending on your looks, an amount won't like how you look. And you get rejected, friendzoned, ignored. And you have a shot with the ones that do you like how you look.

You need thick skin, and pretty rock solid sense of self confidence. Not to feel a bit or alot bad about yourself, and it.

Testing out if it's something for you?
Finding "the magic number". As in, how many women you need to talk with, on average, to have a shot with 1 of them. Helps, to be able to plow through the rejections. Like maybe go on a weekend trip somewhere or whatever. And chatup 40-50 randoms. The amount of appraoches / number of (instant) dates. That is your "magic number". The number of women you need to talk with, and get treated like shit/dirt/hobo; before you find one that has (some) interest in you to go on a date/meetup.

Do it, or not do it?
Based on your "magic number". You can decide, if in YOUR case. It's worth the time, effort, and humilations; for the gains/options. Or if one has more efficient streams to get more and/or better quality women with less (or equal) time and better experience. Than do that.
What is most efficient moggs.
No ego, don't try to master what is giga difficult. Just what is easiest and most effiecient, least time, most comfort. Dating is shit enough in itself already, for most. Don't make the process even more worse.

Upsides
For dudes in the range of nromie to maybe low tier Chadlite. It might be their only option, to ever slay more than regular dudes. Because such man, will likely not do great on Tinder. And maybe not haviong another setup for meeting alot of new women to get/flirt with.
Than this might be the only option. He will have to go through the (in some ways) brutals numbers game; and set aside plenty free time to do this. But it might be his only options, to get up to a high laycount, without escorts, and other types of betabuxxing thing.

 

[wristcel]

Lmao, reading every dating advice book out there.
BRUTALS.


1%?
Thatr lower than 1% was my succes rate (succes = defined by me with sex)

yes, I know all of the theory. From pushpull to negs to NLP to self amusement and every thing in between lol. And i've even tested it all (always with the expected results but I had to try some of the autistic shit out for my own peace of mind!). There really are no cheat codes (as i'm sure you know). Physical attraction is a pre-requisite. From that point, 'game' can help you not fuck it up (required depending on just how hot she thinks you are) and can also help you get to fucking more efficiently.

Percent rate? Never kept much of a count. I'm oldecel and tend to only approach girls like 16-25 who are fairly hot, so as you'd expect, my hit rate is very low with them girls. I'd say somewhere around 1 lay in 150-200 approaches maybe?

I've also slummed it a bit and banged some average looking girls which improves my overall % since them girls are easier. I've even had patches where I got laid every weekend for months, typically making around 10-15 approaches per night

 

[eduardkoopman]

yes, I know all of the theory. From pushpull to negs to NLP to self amusement and every thing in between lol. And i've even tested it all (always with the expected results but I had to try some of the autistic shit out for my own peace of mind!). There really are no cheat codes (as i'm sure you know).

Thanks.
Love, like it. When a guy talks for personal EXPERIENCE. And not from theoretical thinking, or from a standpoint of marketing something (dating coaches).

Physical attraction is a pre-requisite. From that point, 'game' can help you not fuck it up (required depending on just how hot she thinks you are) and can also help you get to fucking more efficiently.

I can agree on this, from my experience. "game" is more aout, stopping doing the stupid shit one does (if one does it). Like super simp shit, or being a giga bad listener, or talking about giga boring subjects matters all the time like how to track insects with lasers; etc....

And maybe some basic tips. On how to have and setup up a decent-ish conversation. And touch her, don't be a scared of touch guy. And setup a basic "logistic" plan, so to be able to hit when the iron is hot.

Percent rate? Never kept much of a count. I'm oldecel and tend to only approach girls like 16-25 who are fairly hot, so as you'd expect, my hit rate is very low with them girls. I'd say somewhere around 1 lay in 150-200 approaches maybe?

Sounds normal rate. I seen guys have. And I had that rate also. Maybe slightly better, BUT ONLY AFTER I decdided to lower my standards.
I was like a normie at best. Hitting on 7's and higher. And I got nowhere like the first 200-250 (or more?) womens I chatted up. Than I decided to lower my standards. Only after I lowered it, to normie pr below nromie levels looksing women did I get more dates, and some lays, flings, etc...

Looksmatched Theory = Legit.
In generral wtih randoms, If one want to be able to hit like 1/25 orso. You have to stay within or maybe below your own looks level.
Otherwise, if one wants to hit outside of ones looks leaugue. One have to go into ratio's of like 1/200 orso, if you are lucky.


1/200 would be to bad for me; for just a random lay. I could kinda see a dude willing to make that effort. If he can than LTR that Stacy, and breed his genes with her mogger genes into the future.

I've also slummed it a bit and banged some average looking girls which improves my overall % since them girls are easier. I've even had patches where I got laid every weekend for months, typically making around 10-15 approaches per night

Good.

 

[eduardkoopman]

yes it is

only worth it if you have universal appeal aka chad

@PURE ARYAN GENETICS

I have got 2 videos, which will tell you nwhat you can expect. When doing randoms talkings. Dependanty on looks.
Don't listen toi the cope ramblings "advice" in the gaps and analysis they do. Just check the appraoches only

So talking with randoms = gathering leads (aka contact info, and maybe what they liek to do so you can do together on a later date)

Chadlite/Low Tier Chad vs Normie-ish dude
The Chad: 1 lead out of 2; 50% lead score.
vs
The normie: 1 lead out of 12 orso. 8% lead score.

so the question is? what your looks level? And the answer tells you the effciency you can expect.


Normie video. 12 approaches. 1 lead.
Here the time stamps, of the chat ups:
1:40
3:55
6:45
12:40
29:00
31:40
33:30
35:10
36:25
48:57
58:10
67:25



Chad/Chadlite video. 2 approaches. 1 lead.
Here the time stamps, of the chat ups:
23:45
46:50