Social class is more proscriptive than looks

[Seth Walsh]

@6ft4 @forevergymcelling @Foreverbrad

Ready for this truth bomb?

Social class > looks—especially in Ireland & the UK

1. Looks get attention; class controls access. Centuries-old hierarchies still gate jobs, clubs, and marriage markets. In countries like Ireland and the UK, class isn’t just an afterthought—it’s the hidden script running the show.
2. Top-quartile women—educated, high-IQ, esteemed professionals—don’t flood dating apps. Their social circle isn’t the algorithm’s pool; it’s university alumni lists, law firms, med schools, and private parties. They select environments where shared values and background are pre-screened.
3. Assortative mating rules dominate: shared schooling, diction, dress code, postcode, even sports (rugby yes, darts pub league no). Looks may spark initial interest, but class codes determine long-term access.
4. Promiscuity clashes with elite goals. Reputation capital is everything. One scandal can vaporize career leverage, family pride, and future marriage prospects. Discretion isn’t just a virtue—it’s a survival instinct.
5. Image ≠ raw beauty alone. It’s the subtle nuances: tailoring over fast fashion, accent neutrality, holidays in Provence not Magaluf, Instagram curated for recruiters—not thirst traps.
6. Why these women rarely swipe right: online dating strips away pedigree signals—voice, manners, references—so they default to offline networks where status is legible and verified. It’s not elitism; it’s risk management.
7. Data is clear: higher-educated women report later sexual debut, fewer partners, and lower divorce risk. These aren’t signs of prudery, but of long-term orientation and a higher valuation of their own reputation capital.
8. Men fixated on “looks-money-status” miss the bigger filter: class codes. You can gym, groom, and earn six figures yet still broadcast outsider cues—whether through speech, manners, or tastes.
9. Upgrading class cues is a skill. Refine speech, master table etiquette, invest in timeless clothing, socialise in upwardly mobile districts, cultivate high-brow hobbies. You can reframe your personal brand.
10. Hard truth: If your socioeconomic trajectory is stagnant, you become invisible, no matter your jawline. Acknowledge the hierarchy, then climb—or date in a tier where class signals match.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

True, to match the high class looks one needs to do a lot of things tbh. Better to just marry a redneck girl

 

[SubhumanEyes]

fucc da rich

 

[New Poster]

Class matters, but there’s hot young girls in any class and those go to the chads of that class

 

[Petsmart]

It’s truly all about class

 

[Deleted member 115294]

if only i was born as a rich jew

 

[Beastimmung]

1. Upgrading class cues is a skill. Refine speech, master table etiquette, invest in timeless clothing, socialise in upwardly mobile districts, cultivate high-brow hobbies. You can reframe your personal brand.

It isn't.

Its written in your genetics unironically

 

[Deleted member 115294]

Class matters, but there’s hot young girls in any class and those go to the chads of that class

why not have a harem of those young girls if u are rich enough

 

[widdi]

Inb4 copers come here to tell you that dating and marrying WASP HTB+ doesn’t count because they got dicked down by 6’8 Tyrones in middle school or something

 

[New Poster]

why not have a harem of those young girls if u are rich enough

Isn’t that what most incels think happens?

 

[wollet2]

It’s truly all about class

if only i was born as a rich jew
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[Deleted member 115294]

Isn’t that what most incels think happens?

dont really think all of those celebrity/jew epstein stories are made up, (would certainly like one of those epstein parties but with girls from 15-20)

 

[Seth Walsh]

True, to match the high class looks one needs to do a lot of things tbh. Better to just marry a redneck girl

No, it's better not to marry a redneck girl.

What I'm saying is; socioeconomic class REALLY matters. Divorce rates are higher in lower socioeconomic assortative marriages BY FAR.

One of the benefits/takeaways of this thread is to evaluate where you stand socioeconomically rather than where you are on the "looks scale". Continue to looksmax of course, but don't get blindsided by falsehoods.

Class conscientiousness is something that only exists within pre-existing high social class networks. To social class max, in any way, would be far more impressive than all looksmaxxing transformations I've seen.

How to do that? It's difficult. You need a few things. High intelligence, high emotional control, strong work ethic, provide high value, and subtly elicit unspoken class codes; not in a crass manner. But opportunity to enter high social class networks only become available to the hyper intelligent (assuming you're not already lucky enough to have that status afforded to you due to bloodline/existing family connections).

Could be motivation for law and med school cels? You can still be an outsider even as a high achieving, high earning, confident Chad.


So, how does one penetrate up through socioeconomic class structures?


I have NEVER heard one blackpill channel talk about this. It's always been about looks, height, iq, race etc... Never ever social class.

 

[Seth Walsh]

It’s truly all about class

Based

 

[Seth Walsh]

Inb4 copers come here to tell you that dating and marrying WASP HTB+ doesn’t count because they got dicked down by 6’8 Tyrones in middle school or something

super high iq ^

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

If I had to pick looks or money I’d pick money

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

No, it's better not to marry a redneck girl.

What I'm saying is; socioeconomic class REALLY matters. Divorce rates are higher in lower socioeconomic assortative marriages BY FAR.

One of the benefits/takeaways of this thread is to evaluate where you stand socioeconomically rather than where you are on the "looks scale". Continue to looksmax of course, but don't get blindsided by falsehoods.

Class conscientiousness is something that only exists within pre-existing high social class networks. To social class max, in any way, would be far more impressive than all looksmaxxing transformations I've seen.

How to do that? It's difficult. You need a few things. High intelligence, high emotional control, strong work ethic, provide high value, and subtly elicit unspoken class codes; not in a crass manner. But opportunity to enter high social class networks only become available to the hyper intelligent (assuming you're not already lucky enough to have that status afforded to you due to bloodline/existing family connections).

Could be motivation for law and med school cels? You can still be an outsider even as a high achieving, high earning, confident Chad.


So, how does one penetrate up through socioeconomic class structures?


I have NEVER heard one blackpill channel talk about this. It's always been about looks, height, iq, race etc... Never ever social class.

You do it by three ways but I will simplify it

1. By utilising your IQ to land a high paying gig in finance. It is wagecucking but you are touching the upper echelons of society potentially opening connections to be used for ascending. From there it is about how one juggles these.

2. The second is getting into some exclusive groups somehow through hook or by crook. This maybe any elite group btw be it in golf clubs or high end exhibitions and auctions. This means you are closer to those people amd can learn how to emulate their mannerims and style.

3. The third is pure luck, being born into such families in the first place

 

[Seth Walsh]

It isn't.

Its written in your genetics unironically

It is to an extreme degree. I have seen people penetrate class structures.

Actually, I know self made millionaires who haven't moved the needle class wise at all.

And I know one particular family who started from nothing, made a ton of money, then penetrated up through class barriers over decade - which was truly amazing to witness happening within a single generation.

It's one of the hardest things to do, because you need to money, the social proof, value - then you need to be accepted in.

Being apart of high class networks and building relationships with people and institutions, will benefit your kin like you wouldn't believe.

I'd argue that bringing children into a world where college networks, neighbourhood, schooling, upbringing etc are all copacetic, is far more beneficial all around than not having that, but having a son who is 6'4 and a daughter who's physically beautiful.

If we're talking extremes. The son will get ZERO quality LTRs, zero career opportunity, and a lifetime of struggling, even at 6'4, if social class is neglected.

I used to be a big proponent of "muh college is worthless you don't learn anything anyway". Until I realise how hard mothers and fathers try to push children towards opportunity. Those opportunities existing in NETWORKS.


I bet no one can debate me on social class and promiscuity having a negative correlation.


inb4 some coper tries to strawman me saying "you're saying face and height doesn't matter bro".

 

[Seth Walsh]

1. By utilising your IQ to land a high paying gig in finance. It is wagecucking but you are touching the upper echelons of society potentially opening connections to be used for ascending. From there it is about how one juggles these.

But even if you land a job in high finance, you'll realise how unfair the game is. It's all connections and class status there too.

You're a smart guy with no familial ties to the industry? Your pay will be subsidized, you'll end up working overtime on operations and you'll be given little visibility to launchpad your way up.

You're related to the CEO? You will be praised before you even get the job. Your work won't be scrutinized by HR. You can attend "networking lunches" and will get a $100k raise every 6 months while getting to go gym, have sex with your fiancee and play all your favourite sports.

Guess who burns out quicker?

...so... How do you play the game smart?

I guess the first thing to do is to place yourself somewhere on the social class hierarchy.

 

[Alias!]

@6ft4 @forevergymcelling @Foreverbrad

Ready for this truth bomb?

Social class > looks—especially in Ireland & the UK

1. Looks get attention; class controls access. Centuries-old hierarchies still gate jobs, clubs, and marriage markets. In countries like Ireland and the UK, class isn’t just an afterthought—it’s the hidden script running the show.
2. Top-quartile women—educated, high-IQ, esteemed professionals—don’t flood dating apps. Their social circle isn’t the algorithm’s pool; it’s university alumni lists, law firms, med schools, and private parties. They select environments where shared values and background are pre-screened.
3. Assortative mating rules dominate: shared schooling, diction, dress code, postcode, even sports (rugby yes, darts pub league no). Looks may spark initial interest, but class codes determine long-term access.
4. Promiscuity clashes with elite goals. Reputation capital is everything. One scandal can vaporize career leverage, family pride, and future marriage prospects. Discretion isn’t just a virtue—it’s a survival instinct.
5. Image ≠ raw beauty alone. It’s the subtle nuances: tailoring over fast fashion, accent neutrality, holidays in Provence not Magaluf, Instagram curated for recruiters—not thirst traps.
6. Why these women rarely swipe right: online dating strips away pedigree signals—voice, manners, references—so they default to offline networks where status is legible and verified. It’s not elitism; it’s risk management.
7. Data is clear: higher-educated women report later sexual debut, fewer partners, and lower divorce risk. These aren’t signs of prudery, but of long-term orientation and a higher valuation of their own reputation capital.
8. Men fixated on “looks-money-status” memes miss the bigger filter: class codes. You can gym, groom, and earn six figures yet still broadcast outsider cues—whether through speech, manners, or tastes.
9. Upgrading class cues is a skill. Refine speech, master table etiquette, invest in timeless clothing, socialise in upwardly mobile districts, cultivate high-brow hobbies. You can reframe your personal brand.
10. Hard truth: If your socioeconomic trajectory is stagnant, you become invisible, no matter your jawline. Acknowledge the hierarchy, then climb—or date in a tier where class signals match.

Such a uphill battle for men it’s over

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

But even if you land a job in high finance, you'll realise how unfair the game is. It's all connections and class status there too.

You're a smart guy with no familial ties to the industry? Your pay will be subsidized, you'll end up working overtime on operations and you'll be given little visibility to launchpad your way up.

You're related to the CEO? You will be praised before you even get the job. Your work won't be scrutinized by HR. You can attend "networking lunches" and will get a $100k raise every 6 months while getting to go gym, have sex with your fiancee and play all your favourite sports.

Guess who burns out quicker?

...so... How do you play the game smart?

I guess the first thing to do is to place yourself somewhere on the social class hierarchy.

Yeah that is what finance does I guess. Tbh I dont think you can embed yourself inside the top 0.01% unless you are the rags to riches rare case. But by being close to these people you can emulate them and decieve. Otherwise its all a matter of luck and being at the right place at the right time. At some point the wealthy realise how to rig the game and use their influence to benefit their own class

 

[Seth Walsh]

Calling out TAILS


Will you ever make a video on social class, neighbourhoods, alumni networks?

Or will you continue to cope with race, iq, looks, height?

 

[cute]

1. By utilising your IQ to land a high paying gig in finance

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Well you cant really become onw of them but you can learn from them the rules and how to break them
That is very important to make it seem like you fit in. Faux pas is very damaging in those high class circles

 

[LegendaryKennen]

keep coping

 

[Seth Walsh]

Feb 28th 2024 comment: (the trigger) https://looksmax.org/threads/stacy-at-my-gym-works-harder-than-all-the-men.970780/post-14711159
Feb 29th 2024: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-social-class-pill-is-the-biggest-load-of-shit.972387/#post-16698980

Mar 31st 2024: https://looksmax.org/threads/sexual-promiscuity-is-a-social-class-issue.996432/#post-15046026

 

[Seth Walsh]

keep coping

 

[LegendaryKennen]

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social classes dont exist keep coping nigger

 

[asdvek]

Broke 6'3 chad in the slums of brazil

5'7 bald ugly underdeveloped manlet with social class

I wonder who the girls will choose

 

[Seth Walsh]

social classes dont exist keep coping nigger

We need insane gigacopers like you to keep the place placated so to not blackpill anyone too hard.

Yes bro it's all about looks and training MMA. That's when you ascend.

 

[LegendaryKennen]

We need insane gigacopers like you to keep the place placated so to not blackpill anyone too hard.

Yes bro it's all about looks and training MMA. That's when you ascend.

i thought this was a troll post before i entered bro actually thinks its the 1300 medieval era JFLLLLLL

insane cope ngl

 

[Seth Walsh]

i thought this was a troll post before i entered bro actually thinks its the 1300 medieval era JFLLLLLL

insane cope ngl

You have so much to learn JFL

 

[LegendaryKennen]

You have so much to learn JFL

oh lmao noone is replying to the thread anymore (u didnt even bother replying to asdvek whos normally retarded but even he could tell how you are severely braindamaged lmao" "mmuuhhm uhh hsohhjial class!!!!" lmao fucking faggot doesnt understand how attraction works
given that noone is replying and ure using me to bump ur shitty thread, im gonna block you so i cant see it, u can only talk when i allow you to



youre the definiton of coping, literally the definition of coping look at this image LMFAOOOOO this is cagefuel. enjoy the block faggot

 

[uksucks]

Whilst I agree and it's kinda of water that higher socio economic class will result in less promiscuity in women.

This is mostly affecting low social class, poor, working class people in terms of LTR quality, divorces etc, moreso than it positively affects upper quartile social class men.

Personally I know loads of upper quartile socio economic class men who have failed in the dating / relationship game.

When you say upper quartile, I'd say more like top 2% socioeconomic class, like Eton, Tonbridge, Harrow, expensive boarding schools, not just some average private school with regular lawyer/doctor parents. These kids and sons have the real connections, they mingle with the high class women. Getting into med school, or dental school or going to study engineering at some russel group is not gonna have remotely any positive relationship outcome as NT (yes NT before looks) and looks.

I know doctor parents sons who went to Cambridge, are an inkwell at 30. Privately educated NEETs. Multimillionaire parents' son who had to go to Vietnam to seamax because he was inkwell in the UK.

Yeh top 2% social class, elite social class has all the positive LTR and romantic benefits. Going to a run of the mill private school, above AVG IQ, work ethic, values won't yield much romantic benefits.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Broke 6'3 chad in the slums of brazil
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5'7 bald ugly underdeveloped manlet with social class
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I wonder who the girls will choose

Cope harder.

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People in a higher social class often have an exaggerated belief that they are better than others that can influence important interactions, including job interviews.

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[Judgement]

 

[Seth Walsh]

u didnt even bother replying to asdvek

He's on ignore but I just replied there.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Whilst I agree and it's kinda of water that higher socio economic class will result in less promiscuity in women.

This is mostly affecting low social class, poor, working class people in terms of LTR quality, divorces etc, moreso than it positively affects upper quartile social class men.

Personally I know loads of upper quartile socio economic class men who have failed in the dating / relationship game.

When you say upper quartile, I'd say more like top 2% socioeconomic class, like Eton, Tonbridge, Harrow, expensive boarding schools, not just some average private school with regular lawyer/doctor parents. These kids and sons have the real connections, they mingle with the high class women. Getting into med school, or dental school or going to study engineering at some russel group is not gonna have remotely any positive relationship outcome as NT (yes NT before looks) and looks.

I know doctor parents sons who went to Cambridge, are an inkwell at 30. Privately educated NEETs. Multimillionaire parents' son who had to go to Vietnam to seamax because he was inkwell in the UK.

Yeh top 2% social class, elite social class has all the positive LTR and romantic benefits. Going to a run of the mill private school, above AVG IQ, work ethic, values won't yield much romantic benefits.

I pretty much agree with everything you said there completely.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Post where the social class pill was coined https://looksmax.org/threads/nuclea...from-1967-ultimate-guide.753764/post-11800091

 

[Foreverbrad]

it’s true but I think it’s too ambitious to try and climb social class when we already have so many other barriers against us as incels. Spread yourself too thin and you fail at everything.

We are not even accepted in our own class.

 

[Seth Walsh]

it’s true but I think it’s too ambitious to try and climb social class when we already have so many other barriers against us as incels. Spread yourself too thin and you fail at everything.

We are not even accepted in our own class.

True. Your self awareness is inspiring. Stay up, and don't get disillusioned in life. Take every opportunity that comes your way. Cynicism is for losers, and it seems you are really at peace with things which is a very strong position mentally!

 

[uksucks]

Worth noting that meeks married the daughter of the billionaire Philip green from looks (and status because of looks) despite being a felon.

 

[incelhunter]

It isn't.

Its written in your genetics unironically

Actually it's written in your upbringing
Going to a private school is EVERYTHING
Literally people can tell I'm high class and educated by just glancing at me

 

[Seth Walsh]

Worth noting that meeks married the daughter of the billionaire Philip green from looks (and status because of looks) despite being a felon.

True. He pulled it off.

Never g'up

 

[Depresso]

@6ft4 @forevergymcelling @Foreverbrad

Ready for this truth bomb?

Social class > looks—especially in Ireland & the UK

1. Looks get attention; class controls access. Centuries-old hierarchies still gate jobs, clubs, and marriage markets. In countries like Ireland and the UK, class isn’t just an afterthought—it’s the hidden script running the show.
2. Top-quartile women—educated, high-IQ, esteemed professionals—don’t flood dating apps. Their social circle isn’t the algorithm’s pool; it’s university alumni lists, law firms, med schools, and private parties. They select environments where shared values and background are pre-screened.
3. Assortative mating rules dominate: shared schooling, diction, dress code, postcode, even sports (rugby yes, darts pub league no). Looks may spark initial interest, but class codes determine long-term access.
4. Promiscuity clashes with elite goals. Reputation capital is everything. One scandal can vaporize career leverage, family pride, and future marriage prospects. Discretion isn’t just a virtue—it’s a survival instinct.
5. Image ≠ raw beauty alone. It’s the subtle nuances: tailoring over fast fashion, accent neutrality, holidays in Provence not Magaluf, Instagram curated for recruiters—not thirst traps.
6. Why these women rarely swipe right: online dating strips away pedigree signals—voice, manners, references—so they default to offline networks where status is legible and verified. It’s not elitism; it’s risk management.
7. Data is clear: higher-educated women report later sexual debut, fewer partners, and lower divorce risk. These aren’t signs of prudery, but of long-term orientation and a higher valuation of their own reputation capital.
8. Men fixated on “looks-money-status” miss the bigger filter: class codes. You can gym, groom, and earn six figures yet still broadcast outsider cues—whether through speech, manners, or tastes.
9. Upgrading class cues is a skill. Refine speech, master table etiquette, invest in timeless clothing, socialise in upwardly mobile districts, cultivate high-brow hobbies. You can reframe your personal brand.
10. Hard truth: If your socioeconomic trajectory is stagnant, you become invisible, no matter your jawline. Acknowledge the hierarchy, then climb—or date in a tier where class signals match.

Class

 

[Seth Walsh]

Actually it's written in your upbringing
Going to a private school is EVERYTHING
Literally people can tell I'm high class and educated by just glancing at me

March 2025 greycels talking about the private school pill

high iq

 

[incelhunter]

@uksucks

 

[uksucks]

Also being neurodivergent like many here would likely negate any social class benefit. You'd just be considered a dud

 

[mrdouchebag]

I only care about looks. A woman's class, money, status or fame mean absolute jack shit to me. Imagine needing to go through a number of hoops just to date some "high class" becky. Nah, bro, I am going for the hottie that works at Zara or Starbucks. Some sub5 "high class" dude can have that becky.

 

[Seth Walsh]

I only care about looks. A woman's class, money, status or fame mean absolute jack shit to me. Imagine needing to go through a number of hoops just to date some "high class" becky. Nah, bro, I am going for the hottie that works at Zara or Starbucks. Some sub5 "high class" dude can have that becky.

Okay.

Best of luck dating Stacy from Zara.