Starting a lean bulk

[Anchor_Ship]

I’m going to start a lean bulk for 4 weeks on a 300 surplus and then go from there. My end goal weight is 140 pds I’m at 130 5”10

 

[VenatorLuparius]

My little sister could submit you.

 

[Anchor_Ship]

My little sister could submit you.

Lol

 

[alriodai]

nah u too much skinny bro dirty bulk for months jfl

 

[Anchor_Ship]

nah u too much skinny bro dirty bulk for months jfl

Nah I want to track everything but I’ll bulk

 

[ItsOverCel]

LEAN BULK JFLLLLLLLLLLL

 

[alriodai]

Nah I want to track everything but I’ll bulk

you're to skinny dude, you're gonna take years and years just to look normal if u wanna "lean bulk"

 

[Orc]

you're to skinny dude, you're gonna take years and years just to look normal if u wanna "lean bulk"

he'll be fine, beginners can get away with bulking in a small deficit, it's not until you're like 2~ years into training that you can't gain shit without a big surplus.

of course it's not optimal but he's probably afraid of losing his abs, the novelty of having them wears off eventually.

 

[Anchor_Ship]

he'll be fine, beginners can get away with bulking in a small deficit, it's not until you're like 2~ years into training that you can't gain shit without a big surplus.

of course it's not optimal but he's probably afraid of losing his abs, the novelty of having them wears off eventually.

Is a 500 calorie surplus fine?

 

[Orc]

Is a 500 calorie surplus fine?

300-500 for your first bulk is fine.

I don't gain shit unless it's 1000-1500.

 

[Anchor_Ship]

300-500 for your first bulk is fine.

I don't gain shit unless it's 1000-1500.

Okay, I’ll bulk for 3 months at a 400-500 surplus

 

[Orc]

Okay, I’ll bulk for 3 months at a 400-500 surplus

that's a bit short, don't be afraid to do a small cut (losing fat is a relatively fast process compared to bulking) and then bulking again after a few months.

 

[Anchor_Ship]

that's a bit short, don't be afraid to do a small cut (losing fat is a relatively fast process compared to bulking) and then bulking again after a few months.

How long of a bulking time span and then cut span do you recommend?

 

[Orc]

How long of a bulking time span and then cut span do you recommend?

as long as possible without getting too fat because you don't want to end up with stretch marks.

you can lose 0.5% body-fat every week without much effort more if you try, so cutting only takes a few weeks at most.

 

[Anchor_Ship]

as long as possible without getting too fat because you don't want to end up with stretch marks.

you can lose 0.5% body-fat every week without much effort more if you try, so cutting only takes a few weeks at most.

Doesn’t the fat the muscle ratio for cutting increase as you gain fat? You’re muscle retention is less?

 

[Orc]

Doesn’t the fat the muscle ratio for cutting increase as you gain fat? You’re muscle retention is less?

yes but the cut off for that is somewhere in the higher teens, you shouldn't bulk to 20% bodyfat.

 

[Deleted member 22623]

as long as possible without getting too fat because you don't want to end up with stretch marks.

you can lose 0.5% body-fat every week without much effort more if you try, so cutting only takes a few weeks at most.

Is it over for me if every time I try to “bulk” (dirty or not), I just end up looking fatter (higher bf%) without actually getting any mass

 

[Orc]

Is it over for me if every time I try to “bulk” (dirty or not), I just end up looking fatter (higher bf%) without actually getting any mass

did you forget to lift?

honestly most people do too much variety to really focus on getting strong at one singular lift, which is what you want to do when you're struggling with bulking, i.e don't give the squats or deadlifts your all but really go all out on bench for example.

they try to increase all lifts all at once which just overloads their nervous system and fatigues them too much to really succeed at any of it.

 

[Deleted member 22623]

did you forget to lift?

honestly most people do too much variety to really focus on getting strong at one singular lift, which is what you want to do when you're struggling with bulking, i.e don't give the squats or deadlifts your all but really go all out on bench for example.

they try to increase all lifts all at once which just overloads their nervous system and fatigues them too much to really succeed at any of it.

Nah, lifted for 3 years and during bulks 4-5 times a week. Im just horribly capped it feels like. Considering a cycle soon…

 

[Anchor_Ship]

yes but the cut off for that is somewhere in the higher teens, you shouldn't bulk to 20% bodyfat.

So I think I’ll stop bulking at around the 19 percent range

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Nigga go on a bulk bulk not a lean bulk you need some meat on ya bones

 

[Anchor_Ship]

Nigga go on a bulk bulk not a lean bulk you need some meat on ya bones

Point taken

 

[Orc]

So I think I’ll stop bulking at around the 19 percent range

it depends on your distribution, just watch the mirror.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Point taken

And age?

Hgh would help with bulking tbh and if ur underage you can grow more

 

[Anchor_Ship]

And age?

Hgh would help with bulking tbh and if ur underage you can grow more

19 5”10

 

[sanctificatus]

should probably go to 170 or higher you have wide clavicles and good delt inserts, youd look really good with +10-20lbs of muscle

 

[Anchor_Ship]

should probably go to 170 or higher you have wide clavicles and good delt inserts, youd look really good with +10-20lbs of muscle

Facts, I’m consuming 3000 cal and 130 protein for the past 3 weeks. Going to do this for about 6 months and then make decision to continue bulk or cut