Starting point plays a huge part in how far you get gymcelling and roidcelling.

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

Here's astrosky after taking trt and trenbolone.

Here's Mike Matarazzo before becoming a ifbb pro taking enormous doses of steroids, hgh, and insulin. This was him in his boxong days.

Some people will blame Astros lack of proper nutrition and training knowledge which could be true, but in reality it's literally the worst genes on earth in his case. His starting point is completely dreadful, you cannot get any worse than the cards he was dealt.

 

[Sigmamale]

Also there is no gymcelling or roids for your bone structure and insertions

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

Also there is no gymcelling or roids for your bone structure and insertions

Yeah that's also a factor in starting point. Look at matarazzo's biceps in that pic. Those arms must be like 16 inches with abs, how many guys do you know have 16 inch arms with abs drug free?

 

[Sigmamale]

Yeah that's also a factor in starting point. Look at matarazzo's biceps in that pic. Those arms must be like 16 inches with abs, how many guys do you know have 16 inch arms with abs drug free?

A couple personally but they have been gymcelling for like 2-3 years.

 

[StuffedFrog]

where did you get that picture

 

[wollet2]

roids are a joke

 

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Here's astrosky after taking trt and trenbolone.

Here's Mike Matarazzo before becoming a ifbb pro taking enormous doses of steroids, hgh, and insulin. This was him in his boxong days.
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Some people will blame Astros lack of proper nutrition and training knowledge which could be true, but in reality it's literally the worst genes on earth in his case. His starting point is completely dreadful, you cannot get any worse than the cards he was dealt.

I've been natty gymcelling for 4 months and look like astrosky on trt and tren

 

[Deleted member 13710]

Some people will blame Astros lack of proper nutrition and training knowledge which could be true, but in reality it's literally the worst genes on earth in his case. His starting point is completely dreadful, you cannot get any worse than the cards he was dealt.

Definitely not the worst. He has a decent shoulder/waist ratio, which gives him a masculine overall look. He would probably look pretty good in a t-shirt. He does have very bad ab/body fat distribution genetics, though.