Tell me the truth, how much i can get with gymceling? To what wxtend i can compensate my face?

and here is a perfect example of a guy who will rot in his basement for the rest of his life because he is too lazy to do shit and says "mimimi its all genetics i cant do anything about it"
if you dont try to get the best out of you you will never get a girl
 
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Life is not black and white... there are loads of stuff inbetween chads and Incels, and most of us are somewhere in between.
 
Life is not black and white... there are loads of stuff inbetween chads and Incels, and most of us are somewhere in between.
I'm not
And being beetween is not better than being on the bottom. Only rope tier does matter
 
and here is a perfect example of a guy who will rot in his basement for the rest of his life because he is too lazy to do shit and says "mimimi its all genetics i cant do anything about it"
if you dont try to get the best out of you you will never get a girl
I’m not saying that dude. What I mean by cope is that no matter how much muscle you put on, if you don’t have at least average face girls will still be repulsive with you. I advised him to moneymaxx and fix his face, if he’s not deformed I bet he can reach 5PSL.
I said this by my experience, i started 4.5 PSL and gymcelled, must to say it helped but only a bit, no matter what you do to your body, when girls see you they always look at your face firsthand. Then I started investing in my face, girls now looks different, approachable, more open and so on. The more good looking face you have the easiest will be the environment for you.
 
I’m not saying that dude. What I mean by cope is that no matter how much muscle you put on, if you don’t have at least average face girls will still be repulsive with you. I advised him to moneymaxx and fix his face, if he’s not deformed I bet he can reach 5PSL.
I said this by my experience, i started 4.5 PSL and gymcelled, must to say it helped but only a bit, no matter what you do to your body, when girls see you they always look at your face firsthand. Then I started investing in my face, girls now looks different, approachable, more open and so on. The more good looking face you have the easiest will be the environment for you.
So it's over, i will. Never spend a single peny for surgery
 
I’m not saying that dude. What I mean by cope is that no matter how much muscle you put on, if you don’t have at least average face girls will still be repulsive with you. I advised him to moneymaxx and fix his face, if he’s not deformed I bet he can reach 5PSL.
I said this by my experience, i started 4.5 PSL and gymcelled, must to say it helped but only a bit, no matter what you do to your body, when girls see you they always look at your face firsthand. Then I started investing in my face, girls now looks different, approachable, more open and so on. The more good looking face you have the easiest will be the environment for you.
look at his face its really not that bad
and you are not right if you are a muscular guy you can easily get gym girls even if you have a below average face
 
Why not? Try fillers then dude. Why is it so hard for you?
Becouse if i do it i would need to leave my whole family? My father oh man he wouldn't even want to look at me. Every person that i know would treat me like a faggot. Also it's just pitiful, i need surgery to be even considered by foids that are fucked right now by school chads. I wouldn't even be able to say anyone that i had surgery. Knowing that foids like you just becouse of fake piece of plastic in your face not becouse of real you is propably even worst. I rather be alone than do that. Imagine those chads loughing at me becouse i need surgery to fuck foids that they are fucking righ now without even trying. I rather go ER on them all than get surgery
look at his face its really not that bad
It's disgusting i'm below averge even in Polabd
 
and here is a perfect example of a guy who will rot in his basement for the rest of his life because he is too lazy to do shit and says "mimimi its all genetics i cant do anything about it"
if you dont try to get the best out of you you will never get a girl
 
if you roidmaxx with your height and get a slayer body you will surely find some white trash slut who will beg for ur dick
 
Blackpill was already said
JFL LAZY CUNT WHO'S DROWNED IN JBW THEORY AND HAVE THE T LEVELS OF A 90 YO GOOK
YOU'RE BEING AN ATTENTION CUCK WORSE THAN LONDONVILLIE CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING CUCKMOGGED BY A FATCEL
I'LL GO TO THE SOUTH AND GET THE WHITE BITCHES FOR WHO YOU'RE THIRSTY JUST TO MOG YOU AFTER I GET MY MSE+FP AND PUT YOU AND JBW TO THE GROUND CUCK WHILE YOU ROT AND DISMISS HELPFUL ADVICE FOR SHEER LACK OF MASCULINITY CUNT

JFL KYS FAGGOT
 
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if you roidmaxx with your height and get a slayer body you will surely find some white trash slut who will beg for ur dick
Not a 17yo cute jb that i want
 
JFL LAZY CUNT WHO'S DROWNED IN JBW THEORY AND HAVE THE T LEVELS OF A 90 YO GOOK
YOU'RE BEING AN ATTENTION CUCK WORSE THAN LONDONVILLIE CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING CUCKMOGGED BY A FATCEL
I'LL GO TO THE SOUTH AND GET THE WHITE BITCHES FOR WHO YOU'RE THIRSTY JUST TO MOG YOU AFTER I GET MY MSE+FP AND PUT YOU AND JBW TO THE GROUND CUCK WHILE YOU ROT AND DISMISS HELPFUL ADVICE FOR SHEER LACK OF MASCULINITY CUNT

JFL KYS FAGGOT
SUCK MY COCK YOU BLUEPILLED BITCH IF IT'S OVER IT'S OVER NOTHING WILL CHANGE THATTTTTTTT
 
Becouse if i do it i would need to leave my whole family? My father oh man he wouldn't even want to look at me. Every person that i know would treat me like a faggot. Also it's just pitiful, i need surgery to be even considered by foids that are fucked right now by school chads. I wouldn't even be able to say anyone that i had surgery. Knowing that foids like you just becouse of fake piece of plastic in your face not becouse of real you is propably even worst. I rather be alone than do that. Imagine those chads loughing at me becouse i need surgery to fuck foids that they are fucking righ now without even trying. I rather go ER on them all than get surgery

It's disgusting i'm below averge even in Polabd
You need to change your perception of surgery dude. Don’t you think those foids get surgeries too? They do su much more than any man do. People will not look at you as plastic guy unless you overdo it or unless your surgeon makes it looks plastic. You can do just one or too and not look plastic, it will look natural. You can also try fillers so you know in firsthand how you’re gonna look.
 
You need to change your perception of surgery dude. Don’t you think those foids get surgeries too? They do su much more than any man do. People will not look at you as plastic guy unless you overdo it or unless your surgeon makes it looks plastic. You can do just one or too and not look plastic, it will look natural. You can also try fillers so you know in firsthand how you’re gonna look.
17 yo foids dlget surgeries? Do you think slayer in my school get surgeries? Do you think my family will change perceptipn of surgery? It's not real you after surgery, if foid is jot attracted to real you it's over. Face is not like a Phone or car that you can change. Even if you fraud it with surgery it's not real you, and it Will hurt you the most
 
@KrissKross since when did you become so blackpilled?
 
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17 yo foids dlget surgeries? Do you think slayer in my school get surgeries? Do you think my family will change perceptipn of surgery? It's not real you after surgery, if foid is jot attracted to real you it's over. Face is not like a Phone or car that you can change. Even if you fraud it with surgery it's not real you, and it Will hurt you the most
lol what is this mental gymnastics

I’m definitely not the biggest advocate for surgery, but you have flaws that could actually be corrected with surgery

“muh natural” who tf cares. toothpaste isn’t natural, you still get benefits from using it

Whatever tho man have fun with your current state I guess
 
Blackpill is a destination we all arrive at, it just takes some people a little longer to fully get there...

MGTOW & escortcel for life
After you get there rope is the only choice
 
lol what is this mental gymnastics

I’m definitely not the biggest advocate for surgery, but you have flaws that could actually be corrected with surgery

“muh natural” who tf cares. toothpaste isn’t natural, you still get benefits from using it

Whatever tho man have fun with your current state I guess
That doesn't change that it will be over when i will be able to afford them andy whole family will. Think that i'm faggot
Stop coping and just rope
 
17 yo foids dlget surgeries? Do you think slayer in my school get surgeries? Do you think my family will change perceptipn of surgery? It's not real you after surgery, if foid is jot attracted to real you it's over. Face is not like a Phone or car that you can change. Even if you fraud it with surgery it's not real you, and it Will hurt you the most
I bet you will change this concept once you start becoming independent and have money to support your lifestyle!
 
Bro, you ain't really got a choice in the matter. Beggars cannot be choosers. Just let the Chads and slayers do their thing and when they have finished with your future wife, then you can betabuxx her. I just dont see any other choice tbh bro.
I am not bluepilled, bluepill is living a lie. We all know deep down we will never be slayers, it is YOU who is being bluepilled right now by holding onto bluepilled hope.
Sorry bro, but you wanted honesty, this is the real world. There are not always happy endings, the good guy does not always win. Get busy coping or get busy roping.
Tbh that's how I'll have to live my life probably , if I want some foid.
Considering I am khhv at 24
 
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If those pics are you then gymcelling will do you good.

You need to sort your skin out, get rid of the acne. Need to get ripped because facce isn't defined. Hair ok. Height seems ok.

Thread is a good example of realistic expectations. You aren't going to be a chad genetically. If you get up to average you will probably be able to get a GF who loves you. I'm not so black pill nihilistic as some guys on here, but you aren't going to be a slayer banging new chicks every night. It's simply not going to happen.

Get a GF and if you don't want to be a betabux cuck dude, then try and find a nice girl who is still into traditional shit who hasn't been with a dozen dudes already.

Being a player is mostly about genetics. You aren't there. It's like if a 4/10 girl says "how do I be a supermodel and marry a famous celebrity?" It's just not going to happen.

Need realistic expectations and you aren't going to bang 100 girls in your life time.

Max your stats, get a good gf and leave this shit behind.
 
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Can you post profile pic? Lower third looks off but I can't tell why exactly
 
If those pics are you then gymcelling will do you good.

You need to sort your skin out, get rid of the acne. Need to get ripped because facce isn't defined. Hair ok. Height seems ok.

Thread is a good example of realistic expectations. You aren't going to be a chad genetically. If you get up to average you will probably be able to get a GF who loves you. I'm not so black pill nihilistic as some guys on here, but you aren't going to be a slayer banging new chicks every night. It's simply not going to happen.

Get a GF and if you don't want to be a betabux cuck dude, then try and find a nice girl who is still into traditional shit who hasn't been with a dozen dudes already.

Being a player is mostly about genetics. You aren't there. It's like if a 4/10 girl says "how do I be a supermodel and marry a famous celebrity?" It's just not going to happen.

Need realistic expectations and you aren't going to bang 100 girls in your life time.

Max your stats, get a good gf and leave this shit behind.
Even if i would find gf i will never leave this site, it's my second life, Pietrosiek is me i am Pietrosiek

I don't want to bang 100 foids a year just have few good slays in my youth and maybe regular sex with gf but i'm not good materiał for bf, i'm not emotional tampon, i'm not alnt and i don't like partying so i can't get gf. Also foids that i want already have bf who mi ogs me or they were fucked by hot dudes that i can't compete with. I don't think anything other than betabux Ing is in my reach, that's sad truth.
Can you post profile pic? Lower third looks off but I can't tell why exactly
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Even if i would find gf i will never leave this site, it's my second life, Pietrosiek is me i am Pietrosiek

I don't want to bang 100 foids a year just have few good slays in my youth and maybe regular sex with gf but i'm not good materiał for bf, i'm not emotional tampon, i'm not alnt and i don't like partying so i can't get gf. Also foids that i want already have bf who mi ogs me or they were fucked by hot dudes that i can't compete with. I don't think anything other than betabux Ing is in my reach, that's sad truth.

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mate this is why you need to take a step back.

You say you're not good bf material but that's what you need to be. Being a good BF is not being an emotional tampon. You've internalised the idea that it's either SLAYER or CUCK BETABUX and that isn't reality.

And if you want a girl who hasn't had a BF better than you before, you need to do two things. first, get as good as you can and two go where girls are actually like that.

Trying to compete with chads and be a slayer isn't going to happen. your competition are the 4-6/10 normies who want gfs. you have to be better than them, find good girls and keep the FUCK away from cities, slayers, chads and debauchery
 
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mate this is why you need to take a step back.

You say you're not good bf material but that's what you need to be. Being a good BF is not being an emotional tampon. You've internalised the idea that it's either SLAYER or CUCK BETABUX and that isn't reality.

And if you want a girl who hasn't had a BF better than you before, you need to do two things. first, get as good as you can and two go where girls are actually like that.

Trying to compete with chads and be a slayer isn't going to happen. your competition are the 4-6/10 normies who want gfs. you have to be better than them, find good girls and keep the FUCK away from cities, slayers, chads and debauchery
Chads are in every school, every party, they are everywhere. Chad i mean top 1% dudes in my age. I don't want gf that will cheat on me in those parties that she wants to go. If i want to hold her i would need to go with her which would be something i hate. If i don't go she will cuck me with chad
 
You have an above average frame bro. Put on some muscle, get to 8-10% bf and clearing ur acne would be an ascension srs
 
You have an above average frame bro. Put on some muscle, get to 8-10% bf and clearing ur acne would be an ascension srs
I hope so, but i'm scared that those jb's like always will choose gl guys. I will try to max my body. I can always go for gym foids but Idk how it will go
Also one more question should i train my side abs? My hips are wider than waist but it would make my shoulder to waist worst
 
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Just get a tan, do gym, fix hair, dye brows, fix acne, shave ugly peach fuzz and trendy max to seem nt?
 
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And what?
wear clothes that are trendy if ur a teen. no walmart fashion.

u need to fix ur testosterone and quit watching porno, u have 8000 messages and u havent even started looksmaxing wtf.
 
I hope so, but i'm scared that those jb's like always will choose gl guys. I will try to max my body. I can always go for gym foids but Idk how it will go
Also one more question should i train my side abs? My hips are wider than waist but it would make my shoulder to waist worst
dont worry too much about it bro just do what i said i promise good results w foids
 
wear clothes that are trendy if ur a teen. no walmart fashion.

u need to fix ur testosterone and quit watching porno, u have 8000 messages and u havent even started looksmaxing wtf.
I started fighting with bloat and acne. Also i will not wear trendy clothes to be same like normies i need opposite i need to stand out
dont worry too much about it bro just do what i said i promise good results w foids
Should i train my side abs to make my waist and hips same width? But this will make my shoulder to waist worst
 
My face in 100% resting position
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Ltr's are for cucks i will not betabux ANY foid in my life
You can become chad. You have a good base.
1. White
2. Tall
3. Midface isn't comically long and head isn't really narrow.

What's your excuse you lazy pathetic failure?
 
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You can become chad. You have a good base.
1. White
2. Tall
3. Midface isn't comically long and head isn't really narrow.

What's your excuse you lazy pathetic failure?
long midface
but still he can look above 4 psl with softmaxxing
 
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Let @KrissKross cope, it's not over for you
 
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