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dht grew my bones when I was completely natty
Hows your collagen and hairline. People in this forum seem to be so quick to jump to DHT and I get that it can influence dick size and those good things but youthfulness and pretty look is the biggest hailo ever. I WAS on roids for quite sometime and I've been off now because I looked so much worse facially. I looked older and FAST. If I could go back I would have stuck with SARMS. Now I use lots of peptides and other protocols and have pretty much reversed what I did.
 
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Buddy dht increase bone growth isn’t a myth. Why do you think high dht guys always have the same exact traits

Wide clavicles
Facial hair
Big dick
Dht has nothing to do with wide clavicles jfc have you seen males with 5ar deficiency or do you rely on tiktok anecdotes from dudes blasting tren and test instead of pubmed?

And yes it grows body/facial hair ofc and plays a role in dick size but none of that matters if youre balding literally one of the worst looksmins to have
 
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These guys literally have TikTok tier knowledge, very funny to see. Literally nothing backs up their claims. Maybe the should go on the only sugar diet also.
lol I don’t even have tiktok

i respect your knowledge but I can’t seem to understand how dht WOULDNT help bone growth considering what google says

If you can explain to me why I’m wrong I’d be happy to not inject mast
 
These guys literally have TikTok tier knowledge, very funny to see. Literally nothing backs up their claims. Maybe the should go on the only sugar diet also.
I laugh everytime I see some tiktok looksmaxxer promote "dhtmaxxing" shit is absolutely hilarious

Dht is the best hormone to make you look like an old jew literally
 
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Masteron increases dht jfl what are you talking about. Also roids increase facial bone mass even after puberty. Just look at roiders face before and after puberty. This isn’t rocket size. Ofc there are barely any studies on specific steroids at high dosages on teens
Of course masteron dose NOT increase DHT WTF. This just shows the extent of your knowledge. Yes, sure facial changes happen due to roids in some, but it is mainly due to Test and e2 as I already said.
Test and e2 are more active in bones.

I never claimed that roids don't have the potential to change your face, but you are mistaken to think that it is due to DHT.
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Clavicular
@Clavicular should come in here and enlighten us all why he thinks tren at a young age when the body is resilient to sides, when theirs is knowledge of ancillaries to control side effects now means you shouldnt run it.
Reason being that tren is both insanely anabolic and androgenic at the same time, where as other compounds are mainly just androgenic or anabolic.
 
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Do u have mogger physique

Also what would u recommend me to do at 17.
At 17 get a job and make some money. Then you can start when 18-22 (whenever you feel comfortable). Run test alone first just to see if your prone to estro etc. After you get comfortable with that you can start adding in other drugs. You really gotta tell me your goals for me to give you more info though.

I do when I was blasting the high amounts too heavy though but now dropped some water and also maybe 7 pounds of muscle and still large but athletic and move well. I went from almost looking like wrestler triple h to 1997 shawn michaels body because now im 29 id rather still look bigger than average but want to be lighter than I used to be and athletic. At my biggest I started to feel my movement was limited and I was too musclebound and stiff now I found a good balance.

Its also not healthy as you age to have the excess body weight putting strain on your heart and kidneys (via higher blood pressure) and the liver having to deal with huge amounts of food which inevitably leads to fatty liver (even when eating clean).
 
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Hows your collagen and hairline. People in this forum seem to be so quick to jump to DHT and I get that it can influence dick size and those good things but youthfulness and pretty look is the biggest hailo ever. I WAS on roids for quite sometime and I've been off now because I looked so much worse facially. I looked older and FAST. If I could go back I would have stuck with SARMS. Now I use lots of peptides and other protocols and have pretty much reversed what I did.
I was Norwood 1 at 15 pretty low collagen but my frame was 23 inches so it’s kinda a trade off I’ll be on ghk-cu soon so it doesn’t matter much. The bone growth was exponential though and it’s definitely worth it. These were my last natty photos
 

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I can’t express my happiness for the recent increase in Test + mast supremacy on this platform

It’s the best combo for cutecels in puberty

Increased dick size, clavicle size, voice deepening, bones everywhere

If you aren’t already just LDAR

I can’t recommend it enough.
Lets fucking go
Gonna hop on it after some time
 
At 17 get a job and make some money. Then you can start when 18-22 (whenever you feel comfortable). Run test alone first just to see if your prone to estro etc. After you get comfortable with that you can start adding in other drugs. You really gotta tell me your goals for me to give you more info though.

I do when I was blasting the high amounts too heavy though but now dropped some water and also maybe 7 pounds of muscle and still large but athletic and move well. I went from almost looking like wrestler triple h to 1997 shawn michaels body because now im 29 id rather still look bigger than average but want to be lighter than I used to be and athletic. At my biggest I started to feel my movement was limited and I was too musclebound and stiff now I found a good balance.

Its also not healthy as you age to have the excess body weight putting strain on your heart and kidneys (via higher blood pressure) and the liver having to deal with huge amounts of food which inevitably leads to fatty liver (even when eating clean).
Good advice :what:
 
Of course masteron dose NOT increase DHT WTF. This just shows the extent of your knowledge. Yes, sure facial changes happen due to roids in some, but it is mainly due to Test and e2 as I already said.


I never claimed that roids don't have the potential to change your face, but you are mistaken to think that it is due to DHT.

Reason being that tren is both insanely anabolic and androgenic at the same time, where as other compounds are mainly just androgenic or anabolic.
Yes it is but you can reverse any hair loss you get after and I am proof of that. Even megadosing tren at 700mg with 700 test and 50mg anadrol (which is bad for hair loss aswell) I got some loss and regained it all with dutasteride. I have hair the same thickness as when I was 18.
 
doesnt your test levels just go back to normal after youve stopped injecting
 
Of course masteron dose NOT increase DHT WTF. This just shows the extent of your knowledge. Yes, sure facial changes happen due to roids in some, but it is mainly due to Test and e2 as I already said.


I never claimed that roids don't have the potential to change your face, but you are mistaken to think that it is due to DHT.

Reason being that tren is both insanely anabolic and androgenic at the same time, where as other compounds are mainly just androgenic or anabolic.
Ok I admit I’m retarded thanks for info
 
This thread is getting crazy bro damn I gotta up my roid knowledge
 
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Yes it is but you can reverse any hair loss you get after and I am proof of that. Even megadosing tren at 700mg with 700 test and 50mg anadrol (which is bad for hair loss aswell) I got some loss and regained it all with dutasteride. I have hair the same thickness as when I was 18.
Yes i agree, honestly if you are trying to puberty max trestolone/MENT and trenbolone IMO tbh. If you're gonna use androgens USE androgens.

And defo not mast.
 
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At 17 get a job and make some money. Then you can start when 18-22 (whenever you feel comfortable). Run test alone first just to see if your prone to estro etc. After you get comfortable with that you can start adding in other drugs. You really gotta tell me your goals for me to give you more info though.

I do when I was blasting the high amounts too heavy though but now dropped some water and also maybe 7 pounds of muscle and still large but athletic and move well. I went from almost looking like wrestler triple h to 1997 shawn michaels body because now im 29 id rather still look bigger than average but want to be lighter than I used to be and athletic. At my biggest I started to feel my movement was limited and I was too musclebound and stiff now I found a good balance.

Its also not healthy as you age to have the excess body weight putting strain on your heart and kidneys (via higher blood pressure) and the liver having to deal with huge amounts of food which inevitably leads to fatty liver (even when eating clean).
The upper end of my goal would be something like Jeff seid

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Ofc he genetic mogs me but yeah

Im 15 ish body fat

Maybe I can get to 12% and lean bulk with test overtime? What do you think
 
Hows your collagen and hairline. People in this forum seem to be so quick to jump to DHT and I get that it can influence dick size and those good things but youthfulness and pretty look is the biggest hailo ever. I WAS on roids for quite sometime and I've been off now because I looked so much worse facially. I looked older and FAST. If I could go back I would have stuck with SARMS. Now I use lots of peptides and other protocols and have pretty much reversed what I did.
Bro in my exp u look worse facially on high doses
The upper end of my goal would be something like Jeff seid

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Ofc he genetic mogs me but yeah

Im 15 ish body fat

Maybe I can get to 12% and lean bulk with test overtime? What do you think
U dont wanna maintain that bf year round it would be a pian. Either super restrictive diet or drug use also overkill for girls. If thats the body type u like lean and athletic size aim for something like this (ignore the faggy music and dancing). looks great, bigger thn average and still athletic.
 
Bro in my exp u look worse facially on high doses

U dont wanna maintain that bf year round it would be a pian. Either super restrictive diet or drug use also overkill for girls. If thats the body type u like lean and athletic size aim for something like this (ignore the faggy music and dancing). looks great, bigger thn average and still athletic.

Im just a sexy boy
 
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When I started eating a fuck ton of animal fat fat my dht went up resulting in acne. I still have some till this day

But my bones started growing EXPONENTIALLY.
Thats very wrong, there is a another mechanism on why eating a lot of fat result in acne, had nothing to do with dht
 
Thats very wrong, there is a another mechanism on why eating a lot of fat result in acne, had nothing to do with dht
Nah it was dht
 
Dht has nothing to do with wide clavicles jfc have you seen males with 5ar deficiency or do you rely on tiktok anecdotes from dudes blasting tren and test instead of pubmed?

And yes it grows body/facial hair ofc and plays a role in dick size but none of that matters if youre balding literally one of the worst looksmins to have
These are the only things dht will get you
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Dht will not get you better bones or better clavicular size
 
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I can’t express my happiness for the recent increase in Test + mast supremacy on this platform

It’s the best combo for cutecels in puberty

Increased dick size, clavicle size, voice deepening, bones everywhere

If you aren’t already just LDAR

I can’t recommend it enough.
test + halotestin would be way better
 
Hows your collagen and hairline. People in this forum seem to be so quick to jump to DHT and I get that it can influence dick size and those good things but youthfulness and pretty look is the biggest hailo ever. I WAS on roids for quite sometime and I've been off now because I looked so much worse facially. I looked older and FAST. If I could go back I would have stuck with SARMS. Now I use lots of peptides and other protocols and have pretty much reversed what I did.
I used sdrol a strong dht derivative for two cycles at 19 with no bone increase (was for sure real because legal in the uk at tht time).
My face also looked worse when blasting my megadoses of tren test and anadrol but its for the benfit long term. Facial changes, you build new muscle which you can then maintain on even trt doses.

Allot of the facial aging is just water retention. I got masculinisation from the heavy androgens but my face still looks very young because of hairline and good skin. Most of your facial aging should revert when you come off or drop to trt.

I tore my rotatior cuff and had 9 months on 170mg trt doing nothing but weighted pushups(weights in a backpack), 32kg one handed kettlebell swings and 32kg dumblell rows with a kettlebell. First day back in the gym lifting 70kg for 12 in dumbell rows, shoulder pressing max stack on the machine (didnt wna do free weights at tht point wanted to test injured shoulder on machine), and bench pressing 160kg for 12 reps.

Once you build that muscle with the high doses u maintain it for ever basically and even if you really lose it through starvation or whatever it gains back very quick
 
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Bro in my exp u look worse facially on high doses

U dont wanna maintain that bf year round it would be a pian. Either super restrictive diet or drug use also overkill for girls. If thats the body type u like lean and athletic size aim for something like this (ignore the faggy music and dancing). looks great, bigger thn average and still athletic.

Physique looks mogger but I would want 5kg of muscle on top of that ngl and a bit leaner
 
Im just a sexy boy
tbh lol allot of those old entrance songs where so memorable. I don't watch wwe now but id see it every now and again because my 8 year old step brother likes it and they all have this generic shit music that isn't remotely memorable.
 
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tbh lol allot of those old entrance songs where so memorable. I don't watch wwe now but id see it every now and again because my 8 year old step brother likes it and they all have this generic shit music that isn't remotely memorable.
Dude everything back then was so much better. I got to see the shield in person back when they were originally together. And daniel bryan. I had his t shirt and the rocks just bring it t shirt. Kids today don't even know. This world has changed.
 
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Physique looks mogger but I would want 5kg of muscle on top of that ngl and a bit leaner
Bro keep in mind jeff seid is a midget and using camera angles. He prob looks the same size in motion shirtless. Hes not big at all. These guys look twice as big in angles. Look at him next to Tyson. No offesnse I think you have internet brain )I have before) from looking at too much fitness stuff on social media it totally distorts your view or what is big and what is lean because of camera angles and constant sxposure to people on huge doses

 
Dude everything back then was so much better. I got to see the shield in person back when they were originally together. And daniel bryan. I had his t shirt and the rocks just bring it t shirt. Kids today don't even know. This world has changed.
Yeah it peaked 1997-2004 watching old footage. The little ive seen after that it was good for maybe 10 more years now its just boring with no strong characters and comes across as people just going through the motions reading lines some guy gave them backstage.
 
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Bro keep in mind jeff seid is a midget and using camera angles. He prob looks the same size in motion shirtless. Hes not big at all. These guys look twice as big in angles. Look at him next to Tyson. No offesnse I think you have internet brain )I have before) from looking at too much fitness stuff on social media it totally distorts your view or what is big and what is lean because of camera angles and constant sxposure to people on huge doses


He’s 6ft I’m way shorter than him. My final height will be 5’10

Also I don’t think I have fitness social media brain I got off that shit

And he won an ifbb men’s physique comp so that’s fucking massive for my standards
 
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Bro keep in mind jeff seid is a midget and using camera angles. He prob looks the same size in motion shirtless. Hes not big at all. These guys look twice as big in angles. Look at him next to Tyson. No offesnse I think you have internet brain )I have before) from looking at too much fitness stuff on social media it totally distorts your view or what is big and what is lean because of camera angles and constant sxposure to people on huge doses


Oh yeah I’m sure this guy is massive but he’s not lean compared to what I want to be like if you get me
 
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This was from tren use. It grew me so fast I got this shit. It works. But its not something to run for a long time. Just a reminder though none of my photos I took are recent. I've been low key about showing my current body for a reason. Coming back with a insane bang.
 
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Yes after I laid off the heavier cycles I run 180mg test now with an increase of 300mg maybe 12 weeks a year. Dutasteride could block it year round at 300mg (probs higher tbh). I wouldnt just straight to dut unless u plan on blast and cruise though.
Have you ever got BP issues or hematocrit etc?
 
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I can’t express my happiness for the recent increase in Test + mast supremacy on this platform

It’s the best combo for cutecels in puberty

Increased dick size, clavicle size, voice deepening, bones everywhere

If you aren’t already just LDAR

I can’t recommend it enough.
Masteron sucks bro I don’t know who popularized it but it sucks for dimorphism
 
I used sdrol a strong dht derivative for two cycles at 19 with no bone increase (was for sure real because legal in the uk at tht time).
My face also looked worse when blasting my megadoses of tren test and anadrol but its for the benfit long term. Facial changes, you build new muscle which you can then maintain on even trt doses.

Allot of the facial aging is just water retention. I got masculinisation from the heavy androgens but my face still looks very young because of hairline and good skin. Most of your facial aging should revert when you come off or drop to trt.

I tore my rotatior cuff and had 9 months on 170mg trt doing nothing but weighted pushups(weights in a backpack), 32kg one handed kettlebell swings and 32kg dumblell rows with a kettlebell. First day back in the gym lifting 70kg for 12 in dumbell rows, shoulder pressing max stack on the machine (didnt wna do free weights at tht point wanted to test injured shoulder on machine), and bench pressing 160kg for 12 reps.

Once you build that muscle with the high doses u maintain it for ever basically and even if you really lose it through starvation or whatever it gains back very quick
what’s your opinion on pct? and how it may possibly close plates ??
 
He’s 6ft I’m way shorter than him. My final height will be 5’10

Also I don’t think I have fitness social media brain I got off that shit

And he won an ifbb men’s physique comp so that’s fucking massive for my standards
jeff isn’t 6ft u can see it on his oficial card
 
gonna age me by 20 years :(
 
I can’t express my happiness for the recent increase in Test + mast supremacy on this platform

It’s the best combo for cutecels in puberty

Increased dick size, clavicle size, voice deepening, bones everywhere

If you aren’t already just LDAR

I can’t recommend it enough.
What's a good source. I don't trust compounds made in Chinese bath water or some retard meth head's basement
 
Hows your collagen and hairline. People in this forum seem to be so quick to jump to DHT and I get that it can influence dick size and those good things but youthfulness and pretty look is the biggest hailo ever. I WAS on roids for quite sometime and I've been off now because I looked so much worse facially. I looked older and FAST. If I could go back I would have stuck with SARMS. Now I use lots of peptides and other protocols and have pretty much reversed what I did.
Bro your acting like Dht is the only cause of hairloss jfl
 
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Bro your acting like Dht is the only cause of hairloss jfl
Acting like mast or tren wouldn’t rape your hairline is ignorant. Your 16 and have never ran these compounds.
 
Acting like mast or tren wouldn’t rape your hairline is ignorant. Your 16 and have never ran these compounds.
Runned both of them at the same time
Masteron is half as androgenic as test according to studies yet it fuck uo your hairline becaus eit cause low estrogen in the receptors (like tamoxifen)
Tren fuck up your hairline
 
Acting like mast or tren wouldn’t rape your hairline is ignorant. Your 16 and have never ran these compounds.
And i hate Mast anyway
And i recommend tren rarely
I always say to people to base their cycle off the side effects they wanna avoid
 
I wouldn't run that now at my age but i don't regret. It was only short term and lipids had gone back baseline 4 weeks later. Also my blood pressure was controlled the entire time with beta blockers. Atherosclerosis is a lifelong condition developed by chronically high blood pressure, ldl/apob and inflammation causing plaque build up. Short periods of bad lipids with managed blood pressure shouldn't do too much damage.

I don't regret it at all my steroid use has massively masculinised my face compared to my twin brother and i have a full head of hair now despite the initial shed for 6 months after that huge blast. I also maintain a lean weight of 14 kg heavier than him even when i starved myself on 130mg test to try and get as light as posssible at one point. I cant drop any lower. It essentially gave me perma gains lol. That big blast plus the 200mg test cruise I did for 2 years.
If I will take jusparin (80mg baby aspirin)Ed
Should I take beta blockers every day and what are the side effects?
And I will donate blood every 6months
I will run 500mg test for 14months
 
If I will take jusparin (80mg baby aspirin)Ed
Should I take beta blockers every day and what are the side effects?
And I will donate blood every 6months
I will run 500mg test for 14months
well theirs thirds generation and first generation beta blockers and u have a massive diff between the two. Theorretically could u run test 500 keep ur markers in range none stop and not have any negatives? maybe? but who knows? U have these guys like vigorous steve trying it now.

Do I think 500mg test is a big deal for a fkin 22 year old hell no lol.
 
well theirs thirds generation and first generation beta blockers and u have a massive diff between the two. Theorretically could u run test 500 keep ur markers in range none stop and not have any negatives? maybe? but who knows? U have these guys like vigorous steve trying it now.

Do I think 500mg test is a big deal for a fkin 22 year old hell no lol.
I am 16
 
Its called 6-methylene-boldenone basically super dht but aromasin is the only ai that does that I think so just stay away if you have family history of receding/balding
Is 6-methylene-boldenone like eq?
 

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