The 9 Male IPD Tiers ( Based on Statistics )

[thecel]

IPD Range	Tier
< 57.5 mm	Cyclops = Hypotelorism = 2SD Under Mean
57.5 mm – 60 mm	Giga Narrow
60 mm – 62.5 mm	Narrow
62.5 mm – 64 mm	Below Average
64 mm – 66 mm	Male Average = 64.67 mm
66 mm – 67.5 mm	Above Average
67.5 mm – 70 mm	Wide
70 mm – 72.5 mm	Giga Wide
> 72.5 mm	Hammerhead Shark = Hypertelorism = 2SD Over Mean

The tiers with bold text are deformed tiers.

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Sources

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/hypotelorism

http://www.neildodgson.com/pubs/EI5291A-05.pdf

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Related

The 9 Midface Ratio Tiers

MFR Range Tier >1.3 Whale Shark Tier 1.2–1.3 Sloth Tier 1.15–1.2 Gigacompact 1.1–1.15 Compact 1.0–1.1 Medium 0.95–1.0 Longish 0.9–0.95 Horse Tier 0.8–0.9 Skyscraper ≤0.8 Burj Khalifa The tiers with bold text are subhuman tiers. Related...

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[Jigen]

Not aspie enough to measure but I know my IPD is wide.

 

[thecel]

bump

 

[ChadOrDeath]

bump

A lil close set but not cyclops tier

 

[thecel]

bumo

 

[Deleted member 25938]

Which option do I choose if I'm right on 67.5 mm?

 

[thecel]

Which option do I choose if I'm right on 67.5 mm?

Above average cus PSLers round down.

 

[thecel]

Boomp

 

[thecel]

bompe

 

[Deleted member 16275]

Damn my IPD is perfectly average but i still have dolphin tier IPD ratio cus of narrow zygos

 

[Deleted member 25190]

will my ipd increase? Im exactly 15 years old with 59-60mm ipd

 

[thecel]

will my ipd increase? Im exactly 15 years old with 59-60mm ipd

Probably by a little bit. Few mm.

 

[Brus Wane]

I googled hypotelorism and lost my fucking appetite
Thanks a lot

 

[thecel]

I googled hypotelorism and lost my fucking appetite
Thanks a lot

My IPD is 55 mm. Never began.

 

[Brus Wane]

My IPD is 55 mm. Never began.

What?! No way

 

[Deleted member 23399]

I'm 70mm ipd but balanced by 150mm byzygo distance

 

[Pendejo]

Imagine not having 65mm IPD like Chico

 

[KingBetaTut]

How to measure reliably

 

[User49]

@thecel

bigonial width when

 

[Deleted member 17159]

I'm 67.5 offset by my horse tier midface and giga long chin.

 

[sub5inchcel]

I'm 70mm ipd but balanced by 150mm byzygo distance

age and heoghr?

 

[sub5inchcel]

i have 61.5 -62 mm witg 135-136 byzifo

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

I have 70mm ipd, but my ling face makes up for it

 

[Deleted member 23286]

I have it as 46% of my Bi-zygomatic width. Apparently it's perfect.

 

[Deleted member 23399]

age and heoghr?

Just turned 23 and 6’1

 

[chromashock]

IPD Range	Tier
< 57.5 mm	Cyclops = Hypotelorism = 2SD Under Mean
57.5 mm – 60 mm	Giga Narrow
60 mm – 62.5 mm	Narrow
62.5 mm – 64 mm	Below Average
64 mm – 66 mm	Male Average = 64.67 mm
66 mm – 67.5 mm	Above Average
67.5 mm – 70 mm	Wide
70 mm – 72.5 mm	Giga Wide
> 72.5 mm	Hammerhead Shark = Hypertelorism = 2SD Over Mean

The tiers with bold text are deformed tiers.

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Sources

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/hypotelorism

http://www.neildodgson.com/pubs/EI5291A-05.pdf

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Related

The 9 Midface Ratio Tiers

MFR Range Tier >1.3 Whale Shark Tier 1.2–1.3 Sloth Tier 1.15–1.2 Gigacompact 1.1–1.15 Compact 1.0–1.1 Medium 0.95–1.0 Longish 0.9–0.95 Horse Tier 0.8–0.9 Skyscraper ≤0.8 Burj Khalifa The tiers with bold text are subhuman tiers. Related...

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If IPD < 66

 

[thecel]

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If IPD < 66

Is this AI-generated?

 

[StrangerDanger]

@NorthAtlandidMogs ur giga

 

[StrangerDanger]

I'm 70mm ipd but balanced by 150mm byzygo distance

Same IPD as Erik
insane

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Millimeter and centimeter measurements are beyond retarded since everyones skull is differently sized, it's about proportions and harmony.

 

[Lookologist003]

Among the subhumanity I have, I can be thankful for one thing and that it's I don't have a narrow IPD. Narrow IPD is hands down the worst facial trait that isn't a serious deformity like cherubim you can have. It make you look like God came back from the pub drunk and then made you, placing your eyeballs while trying to keep his balance with the other hand on the kitchen counter.

There is much easier recourse being afflicted by a recessed and short chin/jaw/maxilla or flat cheekbones. Narrow IPD is the single worst subhumanity in existence. It is such a potent subhumanity that even women can't escape the subhumanity vortex created by a narrow IPD (though they benefit from a wide IPD).

Narrow IPD caps a face at bellow a 7/10 regardless of the quality of any other facial features. I'm very confident about this generalization.

I wonder why it is that we are more sensitive to the eyes being too close together opposed to too far apart.

 

[gayspringtrap993]

IPD Range	Tier
< 57.5 mm	Cyclops = Hypotelorism = 2SD Under Mean
57.5 mm – 60 mm	Giga Narrow
60 mm – 62.5 mm	Narrow
62.5 mm – 64 mm	Below Average
64 mm – 66 mm	Male Average = 64.67 mm
66 mm – 67.5 mm	Above Average
67.5 mm – 70 mm	Wide
70 mm – 72.5 mm	Giga Wide
> 72.5 mm	Hammerhead Shark = Hypertelorism = 2SD Over Mean

The tiers with bold text are deformed tiers.

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Sources

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/hypotelorism

http://www.neildodgson.com/pubs/EI5291A-05.pdf

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Related

The 9 Midface Ratio Tiers

MFR Range Tier >1.3 Whale Shark Tier 1.2–1.3 Sloth Tier 1.15–1.2 Gigacompact 1.1–1.15 Compact 1.0–1.1 Medium 0.95–1.0 Longish 0.9–0.95 Horse Tier 0.8–0.9 Skyscraper ≤0.8 Burj Khalifa The tiers with bold text are subhuman tiers. Related...

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WHAT wdym above 66 is wide fuck im around 67mms

 

[iblamemygenes]

My IPD is 55 mm. Never began.

Don’t mean to bump an old thread but surely you were wrong about this? That is 1cm below ideal

 

[AustrianMogger]

I have 63mm

 

[AscendingHero]

Among the subhumanity I have, I can be thankful for one thing and that it's I don't have a narrow IPD. Narrow IPD is hands down the worst facial trait that isn't a serious deformity like cherubim you can have. It make you look like God came back from the pub drunk and then made you, placing your eyeballs while trying to keep his balance with the other hand on the kitchen counter.

There is much easier recourse being afflicted by a recessed and short chin/jaw/maxilla or flat cheekbones. Narrow IPD is the single worst subhumanity in existence. It is such a potent subhumanity that even women can't escape the subhumanity vortex created by a narrow IPD (though they benefit from a wide IPD).

Narrow IPD caps a face at bellow a 7/10 regardless of the quality of any other facial features. I'm very confident about this generalization.
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I wonder why it is that we are more sensitive to the eyes being too close together opposed to too far apart.

You also just cannot be a 8.5, or strictly 9+/10 face (6.75-7+ PSL) without a wide esr or even a dramatically acceptably wide one, it's just impossible

Not just ESR but eye spacing distance but they're all related, all of the features and ratios/lines up and below stem from it, if that ratio is cooked the brain just detects too much faulty spacing and it ruins the entire facial canvas

 

[thecel]

 

[registerfasterusing]

IPD Range	Tier
< 57.5 mm	Cyclops = Hypotelorism = 2SD Under Mean
57.5 mm – 60 mm	Giga Narrow
60 mm – 62.5 mm	Narrow
62.5 mm – 64 mm	Below Average
64 mm – 66 mm	Male Average = 64.67 mm
66 mm – 67.5 mm	Above Average
67.5 mm – 70 mm	Wide
70 mm – 72.5 mm	Giga Wide
> 72.5 mm	Hammerhead Shark = Hypertelorism = 2SD Over Mean

The tiers with bold text are deformed tiers.

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Sources

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/hypotelorism

http://www.neildodgson.com/pubs/EI5291A-05.pdf

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Related

The 9 Midface Ratio Tiers

MFR Range Tier >1.3 Whale Shark Tier 1.2–1.3 Sloth Tier 1.15–1.2 Gigacompact 1.1–1.15 Compact 1.0–1.1 Medium 0.95–1.0 Longish 0.9–0.95 Horse Tier 0.8–0.9 Skyscraper ≤0.8 Burj Khalifa The tiers with bold text are subhuman tiers. Related...

looksmax.org

worst failo to have by far

 

[Lookologist003]

Narrow IPD is the single worst subhumanity in existence

I standby this, but poor posterior facial depth is parallel to it almost.

@AscendingHero If midface ratio is good and facial depth ratios is good, then yeah, good foundation for everything else. These two ratios are at right angles to one another, so, basically your splanchnocrainum needs to be a cube to look it's best. Everything else is deficient and poor foundations. These are foundational ratios in that, they are so difficult to change that there is no surgical recourse and they qualify the truecel or ugly woman. Guys who just are a little scurvy on the bone mass of their dice-ish (by that I mean their face is like a cube not disproportionate cuboid) face should be grateful, because those are the waters where surgeons can operate and grant them their ascension. For guys who's facial cube (I'm going to call it that, this idea NEEDS to have a name), that's not good not much that can be done other than buy a tub of ice cream and cry over Netflix movies.

My idea of facial cube

Annotations and comments
a→e is midface length (not quite, should be to the lowest part of the upper jaw)
a→b is facial length
a→f is anterior cranial base length as indicated by the superficial structures of it. I name it posterior facial depth
c→d is IPD or orbits spacing
e→b is an aspect of the jaw size

a→e / c→d is midface ratio
Midface ratio looks good when it's 1-1.5. The higher end of that range is more appropriate when describing attractive women, whereas men look manly and not aspergers at the lower end of that range.
a→f / a→b is facial depth ratio
This is what different shapes of facial depth ratio look like, brutal. Foundational brutality. It's similar to and inspired by RMS's facial depth stuff, but the key distinction between his description and this one is contextualizing with and incorporating anterior cranial base by a→f

I rage about it a little more in this thread

There's more to note: a good facial cube means jack shit unless the orbitomaxillary plane angle is big enough. @thecel I think there is a statistical correlation between orbitomaxillary plane angle and posterior facial depth in populations or races. I speculate that there is a morphological mechanism that causes the orbitomaxillary plane to twist as the posterior facial depth increases. This is why in any morph where you increase the posterior facial depth you should pull the eye area, mouth and base of the nasal aperture backwards, and I think you know that, but what if there was such a mechanism to explain it hm.

In this morph of a untermench I did that. I increased his anterior cranial base length, then held back the orbitals or bent them backwards.

Hero, I am still going to give the method to estimate orbitomaxillary plane angles, I didn't forget. It's taking me a little while, because I have to find photographs of people from a true side profile and from frontal, using the same camera so it has the same focal length. The method requires two photos like that. And it's taking me a while because I'm a spastic.

@thecel I saw posts from you in 2021 where you had discovered how brutal short crainal base is. You're so ahead of the curve. This dumbass I am took three times as long to understand it and accept it. Brutal. However you cope I don't know.

I kind of feel like I am derailing this thead. But honestly IPD, posterior facial depth and facial length will tied in a model like I drew above. (But hopefully somebody competent will do it instead of my retardedness.) The discussion of these things are the same.

 

[thecel]

I standby this, but poor posterior facial depth is parallel to it almost.

@AscendingHero If midface ratio is good and facial depth ratios is good, then yeah, good foundation for everything else. These two ratios are at right angles to one another, so, basically your splanchnocrainum needs to be a cube to look it's best. Everything else is deficient and poor foundations. These are foundational ratios in that, they are so difficult to change that there is no surgical recourse and they qualify the truecel or ugly woman. Guys who just are a little scurvy on the bone mass of their dice-ish (by that I mean their face is like a cube not disproportionate cuboid) face should be grateful, because those are the waters where surgeons can operate and grant them their ascension. For guys who's facial cube (I'm going to call it that, this idea NEEDS to have a name), that's not good not much that can be done other than buy a tub of ice cream and cry over Netflix movies.

My idea of facial cube
View attachment 4397072
Annotations and comments
a→e is midface length (not quite, should be to the lowest part of the upper jaw)
a→b is facial length
a→f is anterior cranial base length as indicated by the superficial structures of it. I name it posterior facial depth
c→d is IPD or orbits spacing
e→b is an aspect of the jaw size

a→e / c→d is midface ratio
Midface ratio looks good when it's 1-1.5. The higher end of that range is more appropriate when describing attractive women, whereas men look manly and not aspergers at the lower end of that range.
a→f / a→b is facial depth ratio
This is what different shapes of facial depth ratio look like, brutal. Foundational brutality. It's similar to and inspired by RMS's facial depth stuff, but the key distinction between his description and this one is contextualizing with and incorporating anterior cranial base by a→f

I rage about it a little more in this thread

There's more to note: a good facial cube means jack shit unless the orbitomaxillary plane angle is big enough. @thecel I think there is a statistical correlation between orbitomaxillary plane angle and posterior facial depth in populations or races. I speculate that there is a morphological mechanism that causes the orbitomaxillary plane to twist as the posterior facial depth increases. This is why in any morph where you increase the posterior facial depth you should pull the eye area, mouth and base of the nasal aperture backwards, and I think you know that, but what if there was such a mechanism to explain it hm.

In this morph of a untermench I did that. I increased his anterior cranial base length, then held back the orbitals or bent them backwards.

Hero, I am still going to give the method to estimate orbitomaxillary plane angles, I didn't forget. It's taking me a little while, because I have to find photographs of people from a true side profile and from frontal, using the same camera so it has the same focal length. The method requires two photos like that. And it's taking me a while because I'm a spastic.

@thecel I saw posts from you in 2021 where you had discovered how brutal short crainal base is. You're so ahead of the curve. This dumbass I am took three times as long to understand it and accept it. Brutal. However you cope I don't know.

I kind of feel like I am derailing this thead. But honestly IPD, posterior facial depth and facial length will tied in a model like I drew above. (But hopefully somebody competent will do it instead of my retardedness.) The discussion of these things are the same.

The cube is such a cool concept bro. epic drawings. mirin artistic skills

 

[thecel]

It's similar to and inspired by RMS's facial depth stuff, but the key distinction between his description and this one is contextualizing with and incorporating anterior cranial base by a→f

What’s RMS’s facial depth stuff?

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@TheEndHasNoEnd did a facial depth ratio thread in 2020:

How to measure forward growth v3

A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is. Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method): Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold...

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The difference between your ratio and FDHR is that yours takes the height of the chin into account.

 

[TheOsei]

63

IPD Range	Tier
< 57.5 mm	Cyclops = Hypotelorism = 2SD Under Mean
57.5 mm – 60 mm	Giga Narrow
60 mm – 62.5 mm	Narrow
62.5 mm – 64 mm	Below Average
64 mm – 66 mm	Male Average = 64.67 mm
66 mm – 67.5 mm	Above Average
67.5 mm – 70 mm	Wide
70 mm – 72.5 mm	Giga Wide
> 72.5 mm	Hammerhead Shark = Hypertelorism = 2SD Over Mean

The tiers with bold text are deformed tiers.

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Sources

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/hypotelorism

http://www.neildodgson.com/pubs/EI5291A-05.pdf

---

Related

The 9 Midface Ratio Tiers

MFR Range Tier >1.3 Whale Shark Tier 1.2–1.3 Sloth Tier 1.15–1.2 Gigacompact 1.1–1.15 Compact 1.0–1.1 Medium 0.95–1.0 Longish 0.9–0.95 Horse Tier 0.8–0.9 Skyscraper ≤0.8 Burj Khalifa The tiers with bold text are subhuman tiers. Related...

looksmax.org

63.5mm

 

[Lookologist003]

What’s RMS’s facial depth stuff?

I meant to type RSM. The one time I don't link to the thread that you've already seen!

Facial Depth - Defined

Facial Depth is basically a refined version Forward Growth theory. While some people might say water is wet, this updated theory explains why many midface implant designs look fake and stuck-on, and why “Modified LeFort 3” (often abbreviated MLF3) has almost no chance of creating an extremely...

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@TheEndHasNoEnd did a facial depth ratio thread in 2020:

How to measure forward growth v3

A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is. Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method): Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold...

looksmax.org

The difference between your ratio and FDHR is that yours takes the height of the chin into account.

Great! Thanks. I remember citing fDHR during some lonely night spent on the forum. But I've only just got the message now.

I think we could improve the symbology in our discussions; this might just me, but I think facial depth ratio sounds nicer that fDHR. More illustrations or demonstrations like the morph that I made help spread the word or elucidate this rudimentary concept in looks theory.

I was meaning to update my notes. It seems like TheEndHasNoEnd was the first ever person to suggest this thing publicly. Before you retrieved this I had RSM as the originator of this brand of facial depth stuff. So thank you. I did check with google. Unless it was passed around in Lookism, this is fairly new knowledge.

Last thing is that, the way I define fDHR is the best, because it is the bounding box of the face of subset of space that the face can fill. The facial cube idea is an extension of facial depth. And it's appropriate because we don't live in a world of only side profiles, your face needs to have depth in all sides! Oddly TheEndHasNoEnd did define it better in the exact way that I do in a thread he made before that one, so I don't know why he didn't stop there. You can stop there, because this links to the cranial base, fundamental unchanging stuff.

 

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I have 67mm ipd but I still have .45 esr