The argument in favor of Retention

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Are you smarter than every genius in history, every religious and spiritual belief and prophet

Fucking copers, I am sick of it

I've noticed most people who deny nofap goon maliciously every day multiple times a day and do it to cope with their shitty existence

"Bro were incels there's nothing else to do"

Fucking gross, here are all the geniuses and religions of prominence explaining the benefits of nofap

You favor one study that says "test peaks at 7 days" over all of them? Why is testosterone alone the only consideration

If you're not an atheist, you already believe in nofap, AS LITERALLY NO ESOTERIC TRADITION DENIES IT

If it's not enough, then good riddance coomer, stay your ass away from me.


Absolutely. Here's a refined esoteric argument in favor of NoFap, now enriched with references to great geniuses, mystics, and historical figures who either explicitly or implicitly supported sexual restraint or transmutation of sexual energy, alongside nods to all major religious and spiritual systems.



In Hinduism, the Rishis of old taught that brahmacharya (celibate discipline) refines ojas, the spiritual nectar that fuels enlightenment. Swami Vivekananda, a genius of spiritual insight, claimed:
“Loss of semen brings death; its preservation gives life.”
Taoist sages practiced internal alchemy, transmuting jing into shen to attain immortality of spirit. This principle was echoed by Confucius, who taught restraint as the hallmark of a noble man (junzi).
In Buddhism, Gautama taught detachment from desire (tanha) as the root of liberation. Milarepa, the Tibetan yogi-mystic, meditated in caves for years, fueled by celibate clarity and spiritual fire.
Christian mystics, like St. Augustine—a philosophical titan—wrote in Confessions of lust as a great obstacle to the soul’s ascent.
“Give me chastity and continence—but not yet,” he once cried, before becoming a champion of abstinence.
The Desert Fathers retreated from Roman decadence, preserving their seed as they preserved the Gospel—believing their bodies to be temples for divine fire.

In Islam, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) praised fasting as a protection for those without marriage, calling it the shield of the soul. Imam Al-Ghazali, the towering Sufi philosopher, described lust as a veil over the heart’s mirror.

Judaism, through the lens of Kabbalah, reveres sexual energy as yesod—the gateway between heaven and earth. Wasting seed disrupts the divine circuitry of shefa (flowing grace). Rabbi Nachman of Breslov warned that improper emission weakens the mind and dims spiritual insight.

Sikhism’s Gurus waged war against kaam (lust), one of the five spiritual thieves. Guru Nanak proclaimed that liberation comes to those who conquer desire, not those who are conquered by it.

Indigenous shamans around the world—whether the Amazonian ayahuasqueros or Siberian tunguska visionaries—practiced periods of sexual abstinence before rituals. They knew the seed was life-force, and its loss dulled the soul's antennae.

Even in modern Baha’i teachings, restraint is praised as the cultivation of spiritual refinement—placing detachment above indulgence.

Geniuses Who Echoed the Same


Nikola Tesla, arguably the most brilliant inventor of the modern age, attributed his focus and genius to celibacy:
“I do not think you can name many great inventions that have been made by married men.”

Leonardo da Vinci, celibate by most accounts, preserved his sexual energy and transmuted it into creative genius across art, science, and philosophy.

Isaac Newton, who discovered gravity and redefined physics, was famously abstinent. His obsession with alchemy and divine laws suggests he intuitively grasped sexual transmutation.

Immanuel Kant, the titan of Western philosophy, never married nor had known relations—his mind a cathedral of cold clarity.

Pythagoras, the mystic mathematician, enforced celibacy among his inner circle, teaching that discipline of the flesh was necessary for harmony with the divine.

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, mentor to Swami Vivekananda, never allowed his semen to spill and regarded women as manifestations of the Divine Mother. He said:
“Lust is the greatest obstacle to God-realization.”

Mahatma Gandhi, who experimented with brahmacharya later in life, believed sexual abstinence sharpened the soul’s sword:
“The control of the palate and the sex passion is far more difficult than the control of the mind.”

Arthur Schopenhauer, though often bleak, saw lust as the binding force of will—the primal illusion humanity must transcend.

Even Sigmund Freud, the father of psychoanalysis, acknowledged that sublimated libido powers great creativity and culture.

The Esoteric Conclusion


The retention of one’s seed is the mystical act of turning lead (lust) into gold (gnosis). It is the magician’s discipline, the sage’s secret, the artist’s muse.

Every major religion whispers this truth in its sacred tongue. Every genius who stared into the abyss and brought back light walked this silent road.

Throughout all of human history it has been well known

The only period which anyone would claim it's deniable, is now,

Additionally, all major porn websites are owned by JEWS

YOU FAGGOTS HATE THE JEWS, JEWS THIS JEWS THAT

BUT BECAUSE YOU LIKE COOMING...

THEY PROBABLY ARENT DOING ANYTHING NEFARIOIS RIGHT? :feelsuhh:

JUST MAKING MONEY RIGHT? :feelsuhh:


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DNR

im on semen retention will only bust if I get laid
 
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Did they all just stumble upon a common misconception?

Or is it just an obvious universal truth?

Up to you to answer...
 
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Even Schopenhauer

THE DEPRESSED ATHIEST AND NOTORIOUS INCEL

AGREES :lul:
 
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religious and spiritual people are the same dumb

i honestly find spirituality to be even more cringe trying so hard to distant itself from the utter horseshit that it is
 
Having to explain lust being bad is crazy, what am I expecting from an incel forum tho
 
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religious and spiritual people are the same dumb

i honestly find spirituality to be even more cringe trying so hard to distant itself from the utter horseshit that it is
Even Schopenhauer

THE DEPRESSED ATHIEST AND NOTORIOUS INCEL

AGREES :lul:
Not good enough, try again

Everyone here, including you,

Knows you don't masturbate because of some kind of high iq logical conclusion

Stop pretending.
 
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over for gooners
 
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Having to explain lust being bad is crazy, what am I expecting from an incel forum tho
The faggots on here are hopeless

Someone posted they were on nofap

And most of the replies were just telling him its cope
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how is lust bad, its one of the best things you can have
Yes, maintain it and make use of it

How is it any good when you release your lust in your hand? You fucking moron
 
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Not good enough, try again

Everyone here, including you,

Knows you don't masturbate because of some kind of high iq logical conclusion

Stop pretending.
i got confused, i genuinely dont view these spirituals/mystics highly i think theyre retarded

i dont masturbate cuz im not horny
 
My balls hurt after not nutting in nearly 3 years :)
 
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i got confused, i genuinely dont view these spirituals/mystics highly i think theyre retarded

i dont masturbate cuz im not horny
Idiot i just sent you an atheist genius who said the same thing

And you're still confused? :feelsuhh:
 
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Idiot i just sent you an atheist genius who said the same thing

And you're still confused? :feelsuhh:
schopenhauers spiritual side was retarded and he was also a coping misogynistic so not that genius
 
lust feels very good and exciting, why is it bad. i miss lust a lot
Lust is good if you know how to use that power into something more
 
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schopenhauers spiritual side was retarded and he was also a coping misogynistic so not that genius
You're a feminist? Good god.

@obscuredusk Caging

"I've come to the conclusion women are permanently In a child-like state"

Was a banger from Schopenhauer, and extemely accurate to this day.
 
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Lust is good if you know how to use that power into something more
i mean lust wants sex, you can use that drive to get in a position that gives you more sex

but if you dont induldge on it whats the point
 
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You're a feminist? Good god.

@obscuredusk Caging

"I've come to the conclusion women are permanently In a child-like state"

Was a banger from Schopenhauer, and extemely accurate to this day.
yeah i will be feminist forever if u are not feminist u are dumb
 
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i mean lust wants sex, you can use that drive to get in a position that gives you more sex

but if you dont induldge on it whats the point
Oh my God you're dumb

You just said it... you just fucking said it

You use the drive to put you in a position that gives you more sex

That's the point of not indulging....

How are you unable to put those pieces together. Holy shit.
 
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You're a feminist? Good god.

@obscuredusk Caging

"I've come to the conclusion women are permanently In a child-like state"

Was a banger from Schopenhauer, and extemely accurate to this day.
Schopenhauer is the biggest misogynistic ragebaiter I love him
 
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Oh my God you're dumb

You just said it... you just fucking said it

You use the drive to put you in a position that gives you more sex

That's the point of not indulging....

How are you unable to put those pieces together. Holy shit.
@obscuredusk he might be ragebaiting

Nobody comes out the womb and becomes this stupid in nature, it isn't possible :feelswhat:
 
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Would have read this if it wasn't chatgpt
 
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Oh my God you're dumb

You just said it... you just fucking said it

You use the drive to put you in a position that gives you more sex

That's the point of not indulging....

How are you unable to put those pieces together. Holy shit.
i mean ...most people can already indulge in all their sexual fantasies, so no point holding that drive
 
i mean ...most people can already indulge in all their sexual fantasies, so no point holding that drive
80 iq max

Astonishing.
 
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i mean lust wants sex, you can use that drive to get in a position that gives you more sex

but if you dont induldge on it whats the point
For me chasing sex and constant pleasure is not the way to go. Metaphysical love, emotions, feelings is what I go for
 
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For me chasing sex and constant pleasure is not the way to go. Metaphysical love, emotions, feelings is what I go for
sex and pleasure are emotions

choosing another practise that gives different emotions is fair

i dont believe in that metaphysical/spiritual bs
 
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sex and pleasure are emotions

choosing another practise that gives different emotions is fair

i dont believe in that metaphysical/spiritual bs
Sex is a part of relations, but CHASING it, fucking a new girl every weekend is the dumbest shit ever to me
 
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YOU ALREADY EXPLAINED IT YOURSELF IDIOT, NO.
yeah so most people can induldge in their sexual fantasy and satisfy that lust = feel good

why not do it?

well i guess my point is abstinence for these people is more wasted 'fun' than the potential to get in a position that will give you even more sex through this 'constrained drive' which by the way for a lot of people is unproductive ie they cant focus on work or other stuff
 
yeah so most people can induldge in their sexual fantasy and satisfy that lust = feel good

why not do it?

well i guess my point is abstinence for these people is more wasted 'fun' than the potential to get in a position that will give you even more sex through this 'constrained drive' which by the way for a lot of people is unproductive ie they cant focus on work or other stuff
Oh my God you're dumb as a box of rocks

"Work and other stuff" is how they aquire more status and get more bitches

As you just said, for the 3rd time
i mean lust wants sex, you can use that drive to get in a position that gives you more sex


I'm not responding to you anymore
 
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Sex is a part of relations, but CHASING it, fucking a new girl every weekend is the dumbest shit ever to me
why is it dumb, fucking stranger women excited me, it excites some people

others prefer sex with people they know more or in a relationship. why is one dumber than the other, critisicing one as smarter or not is dumb because its usually based in retarded beliefs
 
why is it dumb, fucking stranger women excited me, it excites some people

others prefer sex with people they know more or in a relationship. why is one dumber than the other, critisicing one as smarter or not is dumb because its usually based in retarded beliefs
You are clearly almost disabled tier in your lack of logical capacity, so you are retarded.

Couldn't even work as a receptionist, it'd require too much mental bandwidth
 
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why is it dumb, fucking stranger women excited me, it excites some people

others prefer sex with people they know more or in a relationship. why is one dumber than the other, critisicing one as smarter or not is dumb because its usually based in retarded beliefs
Yes, having sex with many women might be exciting if you’re going for a hedonistic approach. It depends on you if you want something pure that will last decades, or if you want to chase pleasure
 
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why is it dumb, fucking stranger women excited me, it excites some people

others prefer sex with people they know more or in a relationship. why is one dumber than the other, critisicing one as smarter or not is dumb because its usually based in retarded beliefs
It’s all beliefs and attitude you come up with
 
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Oh my God you're dumb as a box of rocks

"Work and other stuff" is how they aquire more status and get more bitches

As you just said, for the 3rd time



I'm not responding to you anymore
i mean do you believe these ultra 'sucessful' men dont fuck while theyre going through the grind, ofc they do the ones that have libidos atleast. why not? lust and sex are good

and sex isnt their only motivator to grind, i mean you can already have all the sex you want no need to be a millionaire or chad or something

and i said not releasing their sexual urges is very unproductive for some people, they cant think of anything else
 
The average person was married by 16 minimum and was fucking until they died at 32

Adult heterosexual men not having sex is just something that didn't happen for most of modern history
 
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i mean do you believe these ultra 'sucessful' men dont fuck while theyre going through the grind

and sex isnt their only motivator to grind, i mean you can already have all the sex you want

and i said not releasing their sexual urges is very unproductive for some people, they cant think of anything else
You already disproved your own argument by arguing in favor of me and now you're back tracking

I never noticed you're this stupid, ignoring you now.
 
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Inkwells retain their sperm while Chad Splooges it in every female in a 1000 mile radius.
 
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I haven’t done coomed in almost 2 weeks , helps when you keep busy and don’t count the days..
 
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