The Importance of PFL

[Aesthetics_III]

We all know of the incredible importance of the eye area, it’s effect on your aesthetics is next to none (perhaps, with the exception of the lower third). But what makes an eye area good looking? Amongst other things, one of the crucial parts of your eye area is your PFL. A below average pfl can break your eye area, and make you look like a prey.

Of course, there are exceptions:

A very narrow height can offset the effects of a subhuman pfl; but your eyes will still look beady, especially if they’re dark.

By increasing your pfl, you can change your eye area from good, to godly. Look at this morph:

His eye area is already good in the first pic, but by increasing the pfl, the eye area becomes completely transformed. A small change, a matter of millimetres, but it’s effect is profound. Unfortunately, there is little that can be done about pfl, you can try this:

Eyes | Epicanthoplasty | Lateral Epicanthoplasty | BELLAMODE CLINIC

Korean celeb standard - BELLAMODE CLINIC, Korean Celebrity Surgery Style - BELLAMODE CLINIC

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But it seems to make little difference.

The ideal pfl is somewhere around 37-40mm, most of the psl 8s don’t have this, so around 30mm is good.

EDIT: The ideal PFL is around 30, not 37-40

 

[Deleted member 685]

1 of the most important traits of all time. Legit makes or breaks an eye area

 

[Hepatologyscribe]

Low PFL = Downs Syndrome

 

[Brandon10]

Unfortunately, there is little that can be done about pfl, you can try this:

Eyes | Epicanthoplasty | Lateral Epicanthoplasty | BELLAMODE CLINIC

Korean celeb standard - BELLAMODE CLINIC, Korean Celebrity Surgery Style - BELLAMODE CLINIC

eng.bellamodeclinic.com

But it seems to make little difference.

Epicanthoplasty is not applicable to Caucasians which is the majority of PSL.

 

[Pietrosiek]

sad

 

[Deleted member 4887]

surgeons please come up with better ways to change IPD

 

[Tiddlywink]

Good post.

 

[Uglyandfat]

We all know of the incredible importance of the eye area, it’s effect on your aesthetics is next to none (perhaps, with the exception of the lower third). But what makes an eye area good looking? Amongst other things, one of the crucial parts of your eye area is your PFL. A below average pfl can break your eye area, and make you look like a prey.

View attachment 278317

Of course, there are exceptions:

View attachment 278325

A very narrow height can offset the effects of a subhuman pfl; but your eyes will still look beady, especially if they’re dark.

By increasing your pfl, you can change your eye area from good, to godly. Look at this morph:

View attachment 278335

His eye area is already good in the first pic, but by increasing the pfl, the eye area becomes completely transformed. A small change, a matter of millimetres, but it’s effect is profound. Unfortunately, there is little that can be done about pfl, you can try this:

Eyes | Epicanthoplasty | Lateral Epicanthoplasty | BELLAMODE CLINIC

Korean celeb standard - BELLAMODE CLINIC, Korean Celebrity Surgery Style - BELLAMODE CLINIC

eng.bellamodeclinic.com

But it seems to make little difference.

The ideal pfl is somewhere around 37-40mm, most of the psl 8s don’t have this, so around 30mm is good.

We all know of the incredible importance of the eye area, it’s effect on your aesthetics is next to none (perhaps, with the exception of the lower third). But what makes an eye area good looking? Amongst other things, one of the crucial parts of your eye area is your PFL. A below average pfl can break your eye area, and make you look like a prey.

View attachment 278317

Of course, there are exceptions:

View attachment 278325

A very narrow height can offset the effects of a subhuman pfl; but your eyes will still look beady, especially if they’re dark.

By increasing your pfl, you can change your eye area from good, to godly. Look at this morph:

View attachment 278335

His eye area is already good in the first pic, but by increasing the pfl, the eye area becomes completely transformed. A small change, a matter of millimetres, but it’s effect is profound. Unfortunately, there is little that can be done about pfl, you can try this:

Eyes | Epicanthoplasty | Lateral Epicanthoplasty | BELLAMODE CLINIC

Korean celeb standard - BELLAMODE CLINIC, Korean Celebrity Surgery Style - BELLAMODE CLINIC

eng.bellamodeclinic.com

But it seems to make little difference.

The ideal pfl is somewhere around 37-40mm, most of the psl 8s don’t have this, so around 30mm is good.

this or death

 

[Deleted member 4645]

Shiet I just realized how important this is. Thank god mine looks ok.

 

[Deleted member 656]

I feel like we've had this conversation a million times over.

For anyone reading this thread, OP has no idea what he's talking about. The measurements listed are completely off and the morph used as an example is better not because of the PFL, but because of the eyebrows.

Yes PFL is a good trait, but everyone already knew that.

Retarded threads like this with made up numbers the author pulled out of his ass to try to sound knowledgeable and bullshit cherrypicked morphs that prove nothing are a disservice to the forum.

Greycels have a habit of walking in here like they own the place and know all there is to know because they read a few pages on .net.

 

[her]

37-40mm is insane, considering that Chico has 29mm, O'Pry has 33mm and Gandy has about 34mm.

 

[Deleted member 656]

37-40mm would be in the top 90s percentile, considering that Chico has 29mm, O'Pry has 33mm and Gandy has about 34mm.

37 mm is 1 in 32,000. Four standard deviations above average.

 

[Aesthetics_III]

I feel like we've had this conversation a million times over.

For anyone reading this thread, OP has no idea what he's talking about. The measurements listed are completely off and the morph used as an example is better not because of the PFL, but because of the eyebrows.

Yes PFL is a good trait, but everyone already knew that.

Retarded threads like this with made up numbers the author pulled out of his ass to try to sound knowledgeable and bullshit cherrypicked morphs that prove nothing are a disservice to the forum.

Greycels have a habit of walking in here like they own the place and know all there is to know because they read a few pages on .net.

I disagree, I think the increased pfl has made a huge impact on the eyes

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

mine PFL was 39mm when i measured

 

[Brandon10]

37 mm is 1 in 32,000. Four standard deviations above average.

It's insane, there was someone here claiming they've accurately measured PFL of some models using some shit technique through MS Paint and everyone had 36mm + PFL, that's impossible.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

legit pfl is very important but i dont think 37-40mm is realistic lol.

 

[Deleted member 656]

It's insane, there was someone here claiming they've accurately measured PFL of some models using some shit technique through MS Paint and everyone had 36mm + PFL, that's impossible.

We've had people measure them properly before, and I've done it myself also.

Average is 29 mm, as per FaceBase.

Chico is 29 mm, O'Pry about 31 mm and Gandy about 32.5 mm.

 

[Gazzamogga]

I feel like we've had this conversation a million times over.

For anyone reading this thread, OP has no idea what he's talking about. The measurements listed are completely off and the morph used as an example is better not because of the PFL, but because of the eyebrows.

Yes PFL is a good trait, but everyone already knew that.

Retarded threads like this with made up numbers the author pulled out of his ass to try to sound knowledgeable and bullshit cherrypicked morphs that prove nothing are a disservice to the forum.

Greycels have a habit of walking in here like they own the place and know all there is to know because they read a few pages on .net.

https://looksmax.org/threads/you-dont-need-good-pfl-for-top-tier-eye-area.91839/

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

legit pfl is very important but i dont think 37-40mm is realistic lol.

but mine is 39mm

 

[her]

We've had people measure them properly before, and I've done it myself also.

Average is 29 mm, as per FaceBase.

Chico is 29 mm, O'Pry about 31 mm and Gandy about 32.5 mm.

Oh yeah, I made a mistake, sorry. O'Pry is 31mm and Gandy 32.5mm.

 

[nastynas]

LOL'd at 37mm pfl

you can increase your pfl by a surgery that is done by dr sailer afaik, consult my boy @Golden Glass for more information

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

Oh yeah, I made a mistake, sorry. O'Pry is 31mm and Gandy 32.5mm.

does that mean i mog both of them?

 

[Deleted member 2846]

but mine is 39mm

did u measure canthus to canthus?

 

[Kingkellz]

I feel like we've had this conversation a million times over.

For anyone reading this thread, OP has no idea what he's talking about. The measurements listed are completely off and the morph used as an example is better not because of the PFL, but because of the eyebrows.

Yes PFL is a good trait, but everyone already knew that.

Retarded threads like this with made up numbers the author pulled out of his ass to try to sound knowledgeable and bullshit cherrypicked morphs that prove nothing are a disservice to the forum.

Greycels have a habit of walking in here like they own the place and know all there is to know because they read a few pages on .net.

Not to mention other than eyebrows and pfl the neck, chin, cheekbones, midface, and nose length have also been altered in the after

 

[Deleted member 656]

did u measure canthus to canthus?

Prolly measured his bizygomatic

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

did u measure canthus to canthus?

yes

 

[Deleted member 2846]

yes

i doubt urs ur 39mm tbh. i know u have wide eyes but 39mm is insane

 

[FuckNW]

Is there somebody i can dm my pics too. Its regarding eye area, and the surgeries needed. Preferably someone whos high iq regarding eye area

 

[Bechadish]

I feel like we've had this conversation a million times over.

For anyone reading this thread, OP has no idea what he's talking about. The measurements listed are completely off and the morph used as an example is better not because of the PFL, but because of the eyebrows.

Yes PFL is a good trait, but everyone already knew that.

Retarded threads like this with made up numbers the author pulled out of his ass to try to sound knowledgeable and bullshit cherrypicked morphs that prove nothing are a disservice to the forum.

Greycels have a habit of walking in here like they own the place and know all there is to know because they read a few pages on .net.

Is there any way to measurate your PFL at home ?
I get 35mm but it's obviously not how it look like with the whole face, ie it doesn't look wide.

i doubt urs ur 39mm tbh. i know u have wide eyes but 39mm is insane

I believe the shape of the eyes matters as much as PFL for the wideness of the eyes.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Is there any way to measurate your PFL at home ?
I get 35mm but it's obviously not how it look like with the whole face, ie it doesn't look wide.

I believe the shape of the eyes matters as much as PFL for the wideness of the eyes.

with a ruler or tape measure jfl

 

[Bechadish]

with a ruler or tape measure jfl

Always get something like 35mm, but jfl it doesn't look wide nor chadish.
May be leanmaxxing can delete/reduce the spatial misunderstanding ?

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Always get something like 35mm, but jfl it doesn't look wide nor chadish.
May be leanmaxxing can delete/reduce the spatial misunderstanding ?

it’s literally the size of your eyeball lol. look up “pfl measurement” and measure from canthus to canthus

 

[Deleted member 656]

Is there any way to measurate your PFL at home ?
I get 35mm but it's obviously not how it look like with the whole face, ie it doesn't look wide.

I believe the shape of the eyes matters as much as PFL for the wideness of the eyes.

Get a non-distorted passport photo.

Average iris diameter is 11.77 mm with very small standard deviations that wouldn't meaningfully impact the measurement. Use that as a reference point to measure the rest.

 

[Aesthetics_III]

It appears i was wrong in the ideal pfl, I admit. 37-40mm is, on reflection, ridiculous. I still maintain, however, that PFL is incredibly important. Here’s the chart on which I based my measurements on.

look at the Iranians and Ijaws

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Get a non-distorted passport photo.

Average iris diameter is 11.77 mm with very small standard deviations that wouldn't meaningfully impact the measurement. Use that as a reference point to measure the rest.

is it still accurate even if i’m smiling in the pic?

 

[william]

bad morph example. literally everything on his face is morphed. lips, neck, nose, chin, jaw, eyebrows, cheekbones etc.

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

It appears i was wrong in the ideal pfl, I admit. 37-40mm is, on reflection, ridiculous. I still maintain, however, that PFL is incredibly important. Here’s the chart on which I based my measurements on.

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look at the Iranians and Ijaws

im an iranian jfl

@PrettyBoyMaxxing mine is 39mm im not even fucking playing

 

[Deleted member 2846]

It appears i was wrong in the ideal pfl, I admit. 37-40mm is, on reflection, ridiculous. I still maintain, however, that PFL is incredibly important. Here’s the chart on which I based my measurements on.

View attachment 278367

look at the Iranians and Ijaws

edit your post lol

 

[Brandon10]

It appears i was wrong in the ideal pfl, I admit. 37-40mm is, on reflection, ridiculous. I still maintain, however, that PFL is incredibly important. Here’s the chart on which I based my measurements on.

View attachment 278367

look at the Iranians and Ijaws

Lots of Middle Easterns tend to have bug eyes which stretches out the eyelid tissues, so that PFW 37.2 mm measurement may not a product of hunter eyes but rather proptotic ones.

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

edit your post lol

just goes to show how having a 16.4cm mandible length borderline deformed jaw can knock off so much PSL on someone (me)

Lots of Middle Easterns tend to have bug eyes which stretches out the eyelid tissues, so that PFW 37.2 mm measurement may not a product of hunter eyes but rather proptotic ones.

stfu thats racist

do i have bug eyes?

 

[Deleted member 2846]

just goes to show how having a 16.4cm mandible length borderline deformed jaw can knock off so much PSL on someone (me)

stfu thats racist

do i have bug eyes?

check discord

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

check discord

wait prettyboy mine is about 39mm its easier if i lift my eyebrows to measure but def 39mm

too bad i have a 1.6fwhr and 16.4cm mandible length its over

check discord

 

[Deleted member 656]

is it still accurate even if i’m smiling in the pic?

Ought to be

 

[Aesthetics_III]

bad morph example. literally everything on his face is morphed. lips, neck, nose, chin, jaw, eyebrows, cheekbones etc.

narrowed it down to only the eyes

 

[Bechadish]

Get a non-distorted passport photo.

Average iris diameter is 11.77 mm with very small standard deviations that wouldn't meaningfully impact the measurement. Use that as a reference point to measure the rest.

I get 29.5-30mm. But i have myopia, does it affect it ?

 

[Deleted member 656]

I get 29.5-30mm. But i have myopia, does it affect it ?

People with myopia have larger irises slightly iirc

 

[Deleted member 534]

this or death

What’s this guy name?

 

[Deleted member 245]

Legit. I have a shit PFL and it prevents me from having a Tyrone eye area.

 

[Deleted member 616]

Legit. I have a shit PFL and it prevents me from having a Tyrone eye area.

Absolute length or proportions? Some people have good PFL per se but their eyes looks small due to face being too big

 

[Uglyandfat]

What’s this guy name?

Elias de poot