The most brutal blackpill of all: Having too high expectations from surgery

[Adonis]

Doctors can only work with what they got and no doctor can turn a total incel into a model tier chad. Ok that was the most extreme case but even as a MTN you won't get too high.
Mf this is hard to swallow because you pay so many thousands of dollars or euros just to look better but not good enough for the 2022 dating pool.
Wtf maybe incels were right and 95% of men never had a chance to begin with.
@raterater maybe you were right man.
I am kinda losing hope.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Don't project the fact that you have a shit pheno, $0 in your bank account, and are a subhuman despite having no flagrant failos onto everyone else here.

95% of the white guys I see on campus could ascend to Chad(lite)-hood with 1-2 surgeries. Just because you're either:

a) terrible pheno
b) deformed
c) ugly despite no failos
d) poor and can't afford it

Doesn't mean it doesn't work. I've seen half a dozen people ascend in PMs from surgery while people make cringe threads like this.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

yes lose hope, good, good.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

your purpose in life is to be the guy at a dead end job for about 3 seconds whilst chad walks into the gas station you work at and pays for a pack of gum in front of stacy, then you die, this is your purpose in life

 

[Nims]

Doctors can only work with what they got and no doctor can turn a total incel into a model tier chad. Ok that was the most extreme case but even as a MTN you won't get too high.
Mf this is hard to swallow because you pay so many thousands of dollars or euros just to look better but not good enough for the 2022 dating pool.
Wtf maybe incels were right and 95% of men never had a chance to begin with.
@raterater maybe you were right man.
I am kinda losing hope.

What a load of poorcel cope.

Don't project the fact that you have a shit pheno, $0 in your bank account, and are a subhuman despite having no flagrant failos onto everyone else here.

95% of the white guys I see on campus could ascend to Chad(lite)-hood with 1-2 surgeries. Just because you're either:

a) terrible pheno
b) deformed
c) ugly despite no failos
d) poor and can't afford it

Doesn't mean it doesn't work. I've seen half a dozen people ascend in PMs from surgery while people make cringe threads like this.

Are you experienced in surgery? Could you give me some advice on what surgeries might be beneficial?

 

[Adonis]

What a load of poorcel cope.

Are you experienced in surgery? Could you give me some advice on what surgeries might be beneficial?

I ain't poor.
I already talked with surgeons and thats what my experience was.

 

[fruitgunpop]

Depends if u have a shit base or not.
Even so, I can't see why u wouldn't have atleast satisfactory results with autistic, careful and accurate planning.

 

[Adonis]

Depends if u have a shit base or not.
Even so, I can't see why u wouldn't have atleast satisfactory results with autistic, careful and accurate planning.

But you will never be lorenzo zurzola or o'pry tier

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Doctors can only work with what they got and no doctor can turn a total incel into a model tier chad. Ok that was the most extreme case but even as a MTN you won't get too high.
Mf this is hard to swallow because you pay so many thousands of dollars or euros just to look better but not good enough for the 2022 dating pool.
Wtf maybe incels were right and 95% of men never had a chance to begin with.
@raterater maybe you were right man.
I am kinda losing hope.

Obviously incel were right, surgery is a meme.95% here won't ascend

 

[fruitgunpop]

But you will never be lorenzo zurzola or o'pry tier

Ofc if u have a shit base to begin with. That's common sense.

 

[Adonis]

Ofc if u have a shit base to begin with. That's common sense.

You need to be atleast chadlite to become chad.

 

[fruitgunpop]

You need to be atleast chadlite to become chad.

Idk I don't give a crap about that shit but all I know is u can get good results if you plan carefully.

 

[Adonis]

Idk I don't give a crap about that shit but all I know is u can get good results if you plan carefully.

Lmao how do you not care about that shit but say you can become chad if you have a good base?
Low iq loud mouthing yakhi

 

[Vain786]

Doesn't mean it doesn't work. I've seen half a dozen people ascend in PMs from surgery while people make cringe threads like this.

send successful before afters or cope. theres yet to be 1 on this forum

 

[fruitgunpop]

Lmao how do you not care about that shit but say you can become chad if you have a good base?
Low iq loud mouthing yakhi

Most likely if you're not dumb dumb as well.
Check out Salludon.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

send successful before afters or cope. theres yet to be 1 on this forum

Successful people are usually smart, so they know better than to post their results on here for losers to gaslight them. I've seen them in PMs, and I'm not posting them. Whether you want to believe me or not is not my issue.

 

[Pakicel]

Don't project the fact that you have a shit pheno, $0 in your bank account, and are a subhuman despite having no flagrant failos onto everyone else here.

95% of the white guys I see on campus could ascend to Chad(lite)-hood with 1-2 surgeries. Just because you're either:

a) terrible pheno
b) deformed
c) ugly despite no failos
d) poor and can't afford it

Doesn't mean it doesn't work. I've seen half a dozen people ascend in PMs from surgery while people make cringe threads like this.

You are biased. You think CosmicMaxxer is a chad even though he looks like an uncanny subhuman.

But you are generally right. Looksmaxxing requires a base. A 5'4" indian is never gonna be normie no matter what he does.

 

[HerpDerpson]

No expectations for my face.

 

[Pakicel]

But you will never be lorenzo zurzola or o'pry tier

Not sure about O'Pry but I can think most white guys could get to zurzolos level with just softmaxxing.

 

[Deleted member 17735]

what you expect after your surgeries

what you actually end up with

 

[Pakicel]

No expectations for my face.

Are you gonna continue rotting here for the rest of your life? I am ngl, being ugly sucks donkey balls but you can either keep whining or ascend by moneymaxxing/statusmaxxing or maybe even roidcelling. You are not deformed and are at least white. You can get beckies if you go all out.

 

[Pakicel]

what you expect after your surgeries
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what you actually end up with
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God. Who is the dude at the bottom? Looks like he got a skull implant.

 

[Deleted member 17735]

God. Who is the dude at the bottom? Looks like he got a skull implant.

same guy, before top after bottom (Lefort 1 + BSSO)

 

[Pakicel]

same guy, before top after bottom (Lefort 1 + BSSO)

What? Nigga looked good. Why did he do this to his face? @ArvidGustavsson another reason not to cut up your face. You could end up botching yourself like him.

 

[Deleted member 17735]

What? Nigga looked good. Why did he do this to his face? @ArvidGustavsson another reason not to cut up your face. You could end up botching yourself like him.

DO NOT GET SURGERY (ZUVAY BOTCHED)

This is what happens when you focus too much on the details and instead of softmaxxing get surgery when you don’t need it…absolutely destroyed and assymetrical. He said even his orthodontist said it’s 100% not just swelling and his bite is fucked. He had multiple surgeries at once and jfl at...

looksmax.org

 

[klamus]

Nah, heightpill is The final blackpill

 

[Deleted]

What? Nigga looked good. Why did he do this to his face? @ArvidGustavsson another reason not to cut up your face. You could end up botching yourself like him.

He didnt botch himself. He just has a swollen face post op. Its not going to look like that when recovered.

 

[HerpDerpson]

Are you gonna continue rotting here for the rest of your life? I am ngl, being ugly sucks donkey balls but you can either keep whining

I'm not whining, I'm having a giggle.

or ascend by moneymaxxing/statusmaxxing

Please don't tell people to become betabuxxers.

 

[Pakicel]

He didnt botch himself. He just has a swollen face post op. Its not going to look like that when recovered.

Cope. This is a botched job. Like that indian dude gaia didn't look this asymmetrical after his bimax.

But you could argue you that what you are getting is not gonna be as invasive so IDK.

 

[Pakicel]

I'm not whining, I'm having a giggle.

Please don't tell people to become betabuxxers.

Never told you to betabux. Women are attracted to high status men. If you think it is entirely about looks, you are naive and coping.

 

[HerpDerpson]

Women are attracted to high status men.

Well, you can't artificially create status. I think it's actually easier to improve your looks. There's no implants for status.
Like am athlete has status because he's good at sports, which he just happened to be talented at.

 

[Deleted]

Cope. This is a botched job. Like that indian dude gaia didn't look this asymmetrical after his bimax.

But you could argue you that what you are getting is not gonna be as invasive so IDK.

The worst case scenario for me would be the scar stretching and becoming like 1cm and the hairloss around the scar being permanent.

 

[Pakicel]

Well, you can't artificially create status. I think it's actually easier to improve your looks. There's no implants for status.
Like am athlete has status because he's good at sports, which he just happened to be talented at.

You don't need to be a famous athlete for status to halo you lol.

 

[Pakicel]

Most likely if you're not dumb dumb as well.
Check out Salludon.

Salludon is not a universally appealing dude even though he is high PSL. Imo, in the west he is like 5 PSL. White HTN who is gymcelled would beat him.

 

[HerpDerpson]

Imo, in the west he is like 5 PSL.

PSL isn't relative. You can say he's 8/10 instead of 10/10 due to being an ethnic.

 

[Pakicel]

PSL isn't relative. You can say he's 8/10 instead of 10/10 due to being an ethnic.

Not 8/10 in any western country. I mean in his unfrauded state IRL not filtermaxxed frauded photos. He looks like a curry and they have trash SMV.

He is 6-7/10 relative to young white guys who matter.

 

[HerpDerpson]

I mean in his unfrauded state IRL not filtermaxxed frauded photos.

Didn't think about that.

 

[LightSkinNoob]

Salludon is not a universally appealing dude even though he is high PSL. Imo, in the west he is like 5 PSL. White HTN who is gymcelled would beat him.

Coping hard

 

[Pakicel]

Coping hard

Use his unfrauded pics for a tinder experiment. I bet you would beat him lol and maybe he would get similar results to you.

Vast majority of white women would prefer a man of their race.

 

[LightSkinNoob]

Use his unfrauded pics for a tinder experiment. I bet you would beat him lol and maybe he would get similar results to you.

Vast majority of white women would prefer a man of their race.

Are white women really that racist, fucking retards.

 

[Pakicel]

Are white women really that racist, fucking retards.

yeah.

 

[incel194012940]

Use his unfrauded pics for a tinder experiment. I bet you would beat him lol and maybe he would get similar results to you.

Vast majority of white women would prefer a man of their race.

A 4 psl from a good west European pheno with one halo (6’2, 15k on insta, blue eyes )

would beat salludons frauded pictures

 

[Pakicel]

A 4 psl from a good west European pheno with one halo (6’2, 15k on insta, blue eyes )

would beat salludons frauded pictures

this

 

[Deleted member 18840]

You are biased. You think CosmicMaxxer is a chad even though he looks like an uncanny subhuman.

But you are generally right. Looksmaxxing requires a base. A 5'4" indian is never gonna be normie no matter what he does.

Hes a subbuman himself larping at different identities. And will never ascend. And poor on top. Most people will never be chad ever point. Even with distration osteogenesis. Because your harmony + pheno + impossible to fix flaws cap you. Let alone luck, surgeon.

 

[Oberyn]

idk we will see that in january inb4 nerve damage

 

[Adonis]

idk we will see that in january inb4 nerve damage

Based and hope it goes well bro

 

[Oberyn]

Based and hope it goes well bro

thanks. I don't have huge expectations tbqh. I am already doing alright with foids even though im anxietycel.

 

[Adonis]

thanks. I don't have huge expectations tbqh. I am already doing alright with foids even though im anxietycel.

I am an anxietycel too

 

[Oberyn]

I am an anxietycel too

SSRI has helped me a lot

 

[Adonis]

SSRI has helped me a lot

I am taking my 3rd one now and 0 affect on me