The Obsession about blocking DHT should end

[mvp2v1]

"Denial about dht " you are in denial over the side effects of 5AR inhibitors we discussed all aspects about DHT in the thread

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Yes saar block dht you won't need a wife anymore because your dick can't get hard anymore

It’s funny he talks about anti aging but the shit he’s been doing doesn’t seem to have stopped his aging at all. He looks aged. Inb4: Muh he would have looked even worse if he hadn’t done bla bla…. Nah his shit didn’t work

Plus it’s not suprising that he is a fin user AND a vegan AND a Kamla Harris voter

 

[Jonas2k7]

Thoughts on ideal concentration of dht to apply to dick in conjunction with dickpump for enhanced results?

Anything from 0.5-2%, start with the lower end

 

[mvp2v1]

What’s the

Anything from 0.5-2%, start with the lower end

Upper end I could get to. I vaguely recall people using 10% ?

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Anything from 0.5-2%, start with the lower end

Why do you want to increase you dick size and treat ED? I thought you are a masculine alpha

Alright nigga dont blame finasteride for you ed and small dick

 

[Jonas2k7]

What’s the

Upper end I could get to. I vaguely recall people using 10% ?

Experiment with it I guess

It could most likely only enhance regeneration from PE, so using it as some sort of extra care to the dick after PE would be optimal.

I think lower doses also should have the same healing properties to the skin

 

[Jonas2k7]

Why do you want to increase you dick size and treat ED? I thought you are a masculine alpha

Alright nigga dont blame finasteride for you ed and small dick

You stupid faggot (indeed a faggot as you use DHT muh alpha hormone blockers) he asked me a question and I tried to help him

You most likely have a micropenis and just want to tell everybody that DHT is useless so that their dicks don't grow to their full potential

= this is your type of argumenting btw

 

[DR. NICKGA]

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"guys don't trust them they are a cult they are contrarians you should trust me instead"

Jews dont have a masterplan to castrate all males with hairloss medicine? the jews also did not paid the FDA verifcation and 100+ verified good studies

I have nothing to gain

I don't have any side effects best scientific argument (totally not anecdotal)

That was not me argument, you are again straight up lying
I sended you a verified study ,

"Saar yes saar watch all these videos" (* deep inside this jew knows that no one will watch videos longer than 3h in total *)

I sended 3 vids, only one vid is 1 hour long, the others were 10 minutes , again you are straight up lying

 

[DR. NICKGA]

You stupid faggot (indeed a faggot as you use DHT muh alpha hormone blockers) he asked me a question and I tried to help him

You most likely have a micropenis and just want to tell everybody that DHT is useless so that their dicks don't grow to their full potential

= this is your type of argumenting btw

Me dick is pretty huge and big

I dont need to apply dht to me dick
You are the one who do that , not me

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Plus it’s not suprising that he is a fin user AND a vegan AND a Kamla Harris voter

Trump is also a finasteride user

 

[Jonas2k7]

Jews dont have a masterplan to castrate all males with hairloss medicine? the jews also did not paid the FDA verifcation and 100+ verified good studies

For profit nigga, this world is capitalistic. Radioactive tooth paste was sold in germany with the promise that it could make your teeth shinier or something. Same shit

I have nothing to gain

That was not me argument, you are again straight up lying
I sended you a verified study ,

> verified study
> * sends 2 videos again *

I sended 3 vids, only one vid is 1 hour long, the others were 10 minutes , again you are straight up lying

Again you aren't explaining what his key points of the videos are

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Plus it’s not suprising that he is a fin user AND a vegan AND a Kamla Harris voter

You beloved alpha male donald trump use finasteride too

Idk what point you are making

 

[Jonas2k7]

Me dick is pretty huge and big

I dont need to apply dht to me dick
You are the one who do that , not me

I never even said that nigga

yes saars use fin/dut trust the government!

 

[DR. NICKGA]

For profit nigga, this world is capitalistic. Radioactive tooth paste was sold in germany with the promise that it could make your teeth shinier or something. Same shit
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What a stupid comparison is that, we live in 2024 now, all studies and verified studies are online.. all news etc..... all information is online

Or let me guess? This 1000+ studies and fda approved is also jews owned?

 

[DR. NICKGA]

I never even said that nigga
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yes saars use fin/dut trust the government!

This photo you sended is disgusting

Anyway
No the jews dont have a masterplan to castrate all males with hairloss medicine

Sorry bro you are not a worth opponent against the governement , they dont care about you

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Again you aren't explaining what his key points of the videos are

Watch it

 

[DR. NICKGA]

I never even said that nigga

How do you know the information then? You lying ass nigga

 

[Jonas2k7]

What a stupid comparison is that, we live in 2024 now, all studies and verified studies are online.. all news etc..... all information is online

Or let me guess? This 1000+ studies and fda approved is also jews owned?

This photo you sended is disgusting

Anyway
No the jews dont have a masterplan to castrate all males with hairloss medicine

Sorry bro you are not a worth opponent against the governement , they dont care about you

Nigga I'm going to be the adult now.

You, yes you Dr Nickga, you didn't provide any studies except some video that I didn't watch. You also don't want to provide the key points of his videos. This doesn't provide any value to our discussion other than some fun that I had while eating some stuff I found in my kitchen

Now back to the roots of the discussion

5ARIs have side effects like listed in the thread. Other hair loss fighting methods work better with less side effects, like my friend 20/04 wrote Estriol estradiol creme > topical dut fin > dut fin

Also to my favorite topic about ze jews and government: Everything not backed up by studies/experiments (and other objective measurements that can prove that something = something) is anecdotal

Don't get this wrong tho, if I say that ze jews also did studies those studies aren't 100% good, because the conflict of interest wasn't noted or the study could have been manipulated or the study could have been biased to show that a certain drug for example finasteride/dut have more benefits than side effects by not including important parameters etc.

to be strict, I could even argue that everything not seen with your own eyes is subjective or could not be true. (not even that if we are 100% strict)

 

[Jonas2k7]

How do you know the information then? You lying ass nigga

Wrong, you don't have to be a bodybuilder to know how to build muscle.

That's the same logic as you don't have to use topical DHT to my dick with PE to know the benefits of that.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Nigga I'm going to be the adult now.

You, yes you Dr Nickga, you didn't provide any studies except some video that I didn't watch. You also don't want to provide the key points of his videos.

I cannot cure stupidness, me purpose was to cure the viewers in this thread so they will know the truth, as they see the vid they will know the anti science bullshit the dht lovers do, and finasteride haters with psuedo science as arguments

Even if i did , you gonna say "no those studies are paid by the jews"

Now back to the roots of the discussion


5ARIs have side effects like listed in the thread. Other hair loss fighting methods work better with less side effects, like my friend 20/04 wrote Estriol estradiol creme > topical dut fin > dut fin

Yess !! Topical estrogen will surely work on the scalp........

The only evidence of that is anecdotal evidence from reddit or obscure forums.....

Topical estrogen > a fda approved medicine FIN?????

This logic is very flawed and stupid

Also the 2nd is .. topical dut and fin? So you stop the cope think that dht is the cause of baldness...... (100000+ hairloss researchers think that too) or what you gonna say,100000+ jews

Also to my favorite topic about ze jews and government: Everything not backed up by studies/experiments (and other objective measurements that can prove that something = something) is anecdotal

Don't get this wrong tho, if I say that ze jews also did studies those studies aren't 100% good, because the conflict of interest wasn't noted or the study could have been manipulated or the study could have been biased to show that a certain drug for example finasteride/dut have more benefits than side effects by not including important parameters etc.

to be strict, I could even argue that everything not seen with your own eyes is subjective or could not be true. (not even that if we are 100% strict)

Yes so argumenting with logic and verified studies is impossibly with you

You believe what you believe with you own eyes
Cult thinking

 

[Jonas2k7]

bro i already read this, these people in denial about dht is the funniest shit ever

never gets old

Jews dont have a masterplan to castrate all males with hairloss medicine? the jews also did not paid the FDA verifcation and 100+ verified good studies

I have nothing to gain

That was not me argument, you are again straight up lying
I sended you a verified study ,




I sended 3 vids, only one vid is 1 hour long, the others were 10 minutes , again you are straight up lying

 

[Jonas2k7]

I cannot cure stupidness, me purpose was to cure the viewers in this thread so they will know the truth, as they see the vid they will know the anti science bullshit the dht lovers do, and finasteride haters with psuedo science as arguments

There is no pseudo science, just arguments with good studies to back them up.

Even if i did , you gonna say "no those studies are paid by the jews"

You don't provide any studies

Yess !! Topical estrogen will surely work on the scalp........

The only evidence of that is anecdotal evidence from reddit or obscure forums.....

Explain why it wouldn't work topically

Topical estrogen > a fda approved medicine FIN?????

Wow! It's fda approved! So what? red 40 is also fda approved is it healthy now

This logic is very flawed and stupid

Again no argument

Also the 2nd is .. topical dut and fin? So you stop the cope think that dht is the cause of baldness...... (100000+ hairloss researchers think that too) or what you gonna say,100000+ jews

Topical dut and fin decrease DHT levels in the scalp which increases test which then aromatizes estrogen and less DHT against estrogen = less hair loss. So less DHT means indirectly less hair loss. We never said anything against that
correct me if I'm wrong @20/04/2008

Yes so argumenting with logic and verified studies is impossibly with you

You believe what you believe with you own eyes
Cult thinking

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Topical dut and fin decrease DHT levels in the scalp which increases test which then aromatizes estrogen and less DHT against estrogen = less hair loss. So less DHT means indirectly less hair loss. We never said anything against that
correct me if I'm wrong

So low estrogen cause baldness?

 

[Jonas2k7]

So low estrogen cause baldness?

Multiple factors, but yes it can cause mpb

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Multiple factors, but yes it can cause mpb

What are the multiple factors , tell us

 

[Jonas2k7]

What are the multiple factors , tell us

Vitamin/mineral deficiencies, scalp damage through sun, overall bla bla damage, hair damage bla bla, I'm talking to one of my girlfriends rn lil bro, so excuse me. age?, growth hormone, stress, oxidative stress, me bonesmashing your brain, low estrogen, thyroid, massages, blalblbalbblab

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Vitamin/mineral deficiencies, scalp damage through sun, overall bla bla damage, hair damage bla bla, I'm talking to one of my girlfriends rn lil bro, so excuse me. age?, growth hormone, stress, oxidative stress, me bonesmashing your brain, low estrogen, thyroid, massages, blalblbalbblab

Alright so the top that you mentoined is

1. Low estrogen (which 0.0001% of people have)

Estrogen in Men: How It Works and What High or Low Levels Mean

Both high and low estrogen levels can cause some long-term complications or indicate that there’s an underlying condition that should be treated. Here's what you need to know.

www.healthline.com

2. Vitamine / mineral defiences?
3. Scalp damage?? Due to the sun?
4. Growth hormone?
5. Oxiditave stress?

Yea you are full of shit , literaly the definition of bro science

All millions of hair researchers agreed that high level of androgen receptors + dht is the cause of baldness aka androgenetic alopecia

You thinking otherwise is the definition of pure narcassism and high ego

Readers in this thread
Dont believe those "broscience" people in this thread
Believe in science

Haircafe

The world's finest source of hair loss information. Subscribe now to become a Hair Loss Witcher and defeat the slaphead curse once and for all.

youtube.com

 

[Jonas2k7]

Alright so the top that you mentoined is

1. Low estrogen (which 0.0001% of people have)

Estrogen in Men: How It Works and What High or Low Levels Mean

Both high and low estrogen levels can cause some long-term complications or indicate that there’s an underlying condition that should be treated. Here's what you need to know.

www.healthline.com

2. Vitamine mineral defiences
3. Scalp damage?? Due to the sun?
4. Growth hormone?
5. Oxiditave stress?

Yea you are full of shit , literaly the definition of bro science

All millions of hair researchers agreed that high level of androgen receptors + dht is the cause of baldness aka androgenetic alopecia

You thinking otherwise is the definition of pure narcassism and high ego

@20/04/2008 talk to this nigga

 

[DR. NICKGA]

@20/04/2008 talk to this nigga

I am talking to me girlfriend rn lil boy

I absolute destroyed you with science , facts and logic

Now its time for you both to shut the fuck up

 

[Jonas2k7]

I am talking to me girlfriend rn lil boy

 

[Jonas2k7]

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@Dyorotic thoughts? @hiku @fluoride1337 ->

 

[20/04/2008]

I am talking to me girlfriend rn lil boy

I absolute destroyed you with science , facts and logic

Now its time for you both to shut the fuck up

Nigga you showed videos
And contrairely to both of you i was actually talking to my girlfriend

 

[20/04/2008]

What are the multiple factors , tell us

Nigga can’t you read
Go atleat read the abstract and the results
Stop coping budhyboyos
And even if you wanted to run finasteride you wouldn’t be able to because of your limited knowledge

 

[20/04/2008]

What’s the

Upper end I could get to. I vaguely recall people using 10% ?

Me

 

[20/04/2008]

Alright so the top that you mentoined is

1. Low estrogen (which 0.0001% of people have)

Estrogen in Men: How It Works and What High or Low Levels Mean

Both high and low estrogen levels can cause some long-term complications or indicate that there’s an underlying condition that should be treated. Here's what you need to know.

www.healthline.com

2. Vitamine / mineral defiences?
3. Scalp damage?? Due to the sun?
4. Growth hormone?
5. Oxiditave stress?

Yea you are full of shit , literaly the definition of bro science

All millions of hair researchers agreed that high level of androgen receptors + dht is the cause of baldness aka androgenetic alopecia

You thinking otherwise is the definition of pure narcassism and high ego

Readers in this thread
Dont believe those "broscience" people in this thread
Believe in science

Haircafe

The world's finest source of hair loss information. Subscribe now to become a Hair Loss Witcher and defeat the slaphead curse once and for all.

youtube.com

No actually 10% of the population have low estrogen like 10-20 range not 0.001%
Then why is oestroposis levels so high
And why our generation suffer from delayed puberty
Why are we much taller than the previous generation

 

[20/04/2008]

Alright so the top that you mentoined is

1. Low estrogen (which 0.0001% of people have)

Estrogen in Men: How It Works and What High or Low Levels Mean

Both high and low estrogen levels can cause some long-term complications or indicate that there’s an underlying condition that should be treated. Here's what you need to know.

www.healthline.com

2. Vitamine / mineral defiences?
3. Scalp damage?? Due to the sun?
4. Growth hormone?
5. Oxiditave stress?

Yea you are full of shit , literaly the definition of bro science

All millions of hair researchers agreed that high level of androgen receptors + dht is the cause of baldness aka androgenetic alopecia

You thinking otherwise is the definition of pure narcassism and high ego

Readers in this thread
Dont believe those "broscience" people in this thread
Believe in science

Haircafe

The world's finest source of hair loss information. Subscribe now to become a Hair Loss Witcher and defeat the slaphead curse once and for all.

youtube.com

2)yes proven by science
3)he didn’t write it i did
4)The damage to the sun is due to th e lack of oxygen (just do a little experience take a hat and pur in your head for 6 hours then remove it youll notice that your hair got thinner)
5)he meant igf-1
6)yes it has a really big impact its the number 2 reason of hairloss
You can find hypogonadal 25 year old mf who are going bald they have high estrogen high insulin sensitivity high stresdbecause they are fat and low dht if they use finasteride they wouldn’t see much results because their estrogen is already high
While someone who’s on gear keep in mind when your using anything more than 1g of test you don’t need ai ask bodybuilders roufly 10% of your testosterone concerts to dht so when you ise 1g testosterone the sheer amount of dht is enough to regulate estrogen so in that case fin could be a good alternative

 

[DR. NICKGA]

No actually 10% of the population have low estrogen like 10-20 range not 0.001%
Then why is oestroposis levels so high
And why our generation suffer from delayed puberty
Why are we much taller than the previous generation

Wrong its the opposite

We are suffering from early puberty, aka puberty beginning at a young age

Certain chemicals may trigger early puberty in girls

Compounds found in fragrances and other products triggered signaling pathways in mouse and human cells that might help jump-start early puberty.

www.nih.gov

A biological trigger of early puberty is uncovered by Northeastern scientists

New research reveals how trauma triggers early puberty and later anxiety, paving the way for potential interventions.

news.northeastern.edu

Its due to chemicals, stress and food etc..... complex reasons

People in the west grow taller is because of the goyslop western diet

Overall high glycemic load during times of growth = taller, wider, bigger (PUBERTYCELS GIH)

“Chad eats candy and icecream everyday and is 6’3 with a 25inch bideltoid and has fucked loads of women” Many ppl say something along the lines of this to combat the idea diet can “improve your aesthetics”. The problem with this is that “Chad’s” diet consists of “candy and icecream” which of...

looksmax.org

 

[DR. NICKGA]

No actually 10% of the population have low estrogen like 10-20 range not 0.001%
Then why is oestroposis levels so high
And why our generation suffer from delayed puberty
Why are we much taller than the previous generation

I was not serious when i said 0.001%

10% is still very very low, no one suffer from low estrogen

 

[20/04/2008]

Wrong its the opposite

We are suffering from early puberty, aka puberty beginning at a young age

Certain chemicals may trigger early puberty in girls

Compounds found in fragrances and other products triggered signaling pathways in mouse and human cells that might help jump-start early puberty.

www.nih.gov

A biological trigger of early puberty is uncovered by Northeastern scientists

New research reveals how trauma triggers early puberty and later anxiety, paving the way for potential interventions.

news.northeastern.edu

Its due to chemicals, stress and food etc..... complex reasons

People in the west grow taller is because of the goyslop western diet

Overall high glycemic load during times of growth = taller, wider, bigger (PUBERTYCELS GIH)

“Chad eats candy and icecream everyday and is 6’3 with a 25inch bideltoid and has fucked loads of women” Many ppl say something along the lines of this to combat the idea diet can “improve your aesthetics”. The problem with this is that “Chad’s” diet consists of “candy and icecream” which of...

looksmax.org

Both
Back then growth plates closed between 16-18
Now its 14-21

 

[Jonas2k7]

Both
Back then growth plates closed between 16-18
Now its 14-21

Mine closed at 14

I wish I would have been a late bloomer, I could have had blasted GH and AIs like any other teenager

Atleast I'm 5'11 tho, if my growth plates didn't close that early I could have been 6'2 atleast

Btw my mom breastfed me for 3 years maybe that had some effect on my height @20/04/2008

 

[20/04/2008]

Mine closed at 14

I wish I would have been a late bloomer, I could have had blasted GH and AIs like any other teenager

Atleast I'm 5'11 tho, if my growth plates didn't close that early I could have been 6'2 atleast

Btw my mom breastfed me for 3 years maybe that had some effect on my height @20/04/2008

Nigga your retarded
Also your not 5ft11 stop coping
The guys that were 5ft9 when they were 14 all lf them that i know ended up being 6ft3-5
I was 5ft6 when i was 14 i am now 6ft1
You were 5ft9 at 14 you grew really slowly to 5ft11 and now your coping saying your griwth closed at 14 you should really be super unlucky for that to happen

 

[Jonas2k7]

Nigga your retarded
Also your not 5ft11 stop coping
The guys that were 5ft9 when they were 14 all lf them that i know ended up being 6ft3-5
I was 5ft6 when i was 14 i am now 6ft1

fuck you sand nigger you think you are some intelligent biohacker at 16

I'm not fucking lying about my height especially not about being 5'11 (still manlet height)

I was always the tallest in my class

go inject hgh into your ass now

 

[20/04/2008]

fuck you sand nigger you think you are some intelligent biohacker at 16

I'm not fucking lying about my height especially not about being 5'11 (still manlet height)

I was always the tallest in my class

go inject hgh into your ass now

Heightmog you ass
And started heightmaxxing at 15

 

[Jonas2k7]

Heightmog you ass
And started heightmaxxing at 15

Nothing personal bro but I really didn't grow after 14, I think it has some correlation with the beginning of my gymmaxxing or smth

 

[20/04/2008]

Nothing personal bro but I really didn't grow after 14, I think it has some correlation with the beginning of my gymmaxxing or smth

Your retarded jfl
How did you know you shopped growing you just had a really slow growth you didn’t notice
Cause even women their growth don’t close at 14

 

[Jonas2k7]

Your retarded jfl
How did you know you shopped growing you just had a really slow growth you didn’t notice
Cause even women their growth don’t close at 14

I sent you a x ray.

 

[JohnDoe]

Anything from 0.5-2%, start with the lower end

I haven't looked into the whole applying DHT gel on penis to increase size but i'm assuming it goes systemic right and so affects hairloss due to DHT > low estrogen?
Somehow i doubt applying DHT gel even 1-2% would be side-effect free.

 

[JohnDoe]

Topical dut and fin decrease DHT levels in the scalp which increases test which then aromatizes estrogen and less DHT against estrogen = less hair loss. So less DHT means indirectly less hair loss. We never said anything against that
correct me if I'm wrong @20/04/2008

I'm pretty sure topical fin/dut goes systemic and eventually the % that goes systemic or changes DHT in body is close or almost same as taking oral. Either way these drugs are no good.
@20/04/2008 @Jonas2k7 Thoughts on DNA methylation & Insulin sensitivity/resistance or basically balding being a metabolic disease? i know it's kinda what you have said already but not directly.

 

[JohnDoe]

Nigga your retarded
Also your not 5ft11 stop coping
The guys that were 5ft9 when they were 14 all lf them that i know ended up being 6ft3-5
I was 5ft6 when i was 14 i am now 6ft1
You were 5ft9 at 14 you grew really slowly to 5ft11 and now your coping saying your griwth closed at 14 you should really be super unlucky for that to happen

Brutal. I was like 5'8 after i hit my growth spurt at 14-15 years old and then i stopped growing and never grew. I grew like 2cm in my early 20s but that's it. Now perma stuck 5'8.5/174. Insane but i attribute it to insufficient sleep + nutrition. Jonas you should be happy you are atleast 5'11, it could be worse. at 5'11 atleast you can fraud to 6'1 and be more than okay.

 

[piec]

Vitamine / mineral defiences?

biotin(extremely rare) vitamin d (extremely rare that its so severe it results in hair loss, must be retarded level neglectful and not notice 10 other symptoms)

also will NOT be in the pattern of male pattern baldness which is very obvious to tell
also obviously a bunch of other shit like iron but same thing applies

Scalp damage?? Due to the sun?

apparently nigger tanned his scalp so hard while being clean shaven on the head it scrapped his entire skin off and caused fibrosis

4. Growth hormone?

extremely extremely rare, and you would be diagnosed with GH deficiency at 8 years old

also not in the pattern of male pattern baldness and very obvious to tell

Oxiditave stress?

only thing coming to my mind is tellogen effluvium, which is also not in the pattern of male pattern baldness

 

[Jonas2k7]

I haven't looked into the whole applying DHT gel on penis to increase size but i'm assuming it goes systemic right and so affects hairloss due to DHT > low estrogen?
Somehow i doubt applying DHT gel even 1-2% would be side-effect free.

If you experience any side effects you can stop instantly. It is just to maximize possible gains with PE as it increases regeneration in penile tissue. Lower doses should have an effect too.

I'm pretty sure topical fin/dut goes systemic and eventually the % that goes systemic or changes DHT in body is close or almost same as taking oral. Either way these drugs are no good.

When taken orally, fin enters the bloodstream and affects the whole body. When applied topically, it primarely targets the scalp and is less likely to cause the same sides as oral fin.

@20/04/2008 @Jonas2k7 Thoughts on DNA methylation & Insulin sensitivity/resistance or basically balding being a metabolic disease? i know it's kinda what you have said already but not directly.

Yes, a lot of things can contribute to hair loss like discussed in the thread. Could you specify "metabolic diseases", do you mean stuff like diabetes mellitus? Insulin affects HGH and this affects ofc hair too. So yeah, the body is pretty complex.