[Theory] Easy and cheap way to prevent, maybe even reverse balding

[antiantifa]

In my other threads I went into how PUFAs promote fat gain in adipocytes through PPAR. PPAR is the most important adipose tissue receptor out there actually, without it animals literally have no fat and die. I've also made a thread on how it seems that balding may be caused by thinning of the head's fat layer causing reduced E2 causing increase DHT locally(5-ar is opposed by E2, fat layer has a lot of aromatase in it). In fact, fat grafts are now a thing for reversing balding.

So?

PUFAs strongly activate PPAR, infact PUFAs are extremely obesogenic! Not only that, but the cheapest PUFA out there, sunflower oil, easily goes through the skin. I've experimented with sunflower oil on my face and found that it is extremely bloating in the long-term on the skin area applied so I stopped using it, but now I realize it's value as
anti-balding agent and hair-growth promotion.

One of the strongest activators of PPAR-gamma is a fatty acid found in sunflower oil!
Not only that, but plenty of foids use shit like sunflower oil/grapeseed oil for improved hair growth. This is all not cope, many oils show 5-ar inhibition and also show improved hair growth when tested.

I believe sunflower oil may be one of the most effective tools vs balding, simply because it can bloat the fat on top of the scalp and locally increase the amount of aromatase present.

Here is proof of what I say:

Effect of Pumpkin Seed Oil on Hair Growth in Men with Androgenetic Alopecia: A Randomized, Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Trial

Pumpkin seed oil (PSO) has been shown to block the action of 5-alpha reductase and to have antiandrogenic effects on rats. This randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind study was designed to investigate the efficacy and tolerability of PSO for treatment ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Mean hair count increases of 40% were observed in PSO-treated men at 24 weeks, whereas increases of 10% were observed in placebo-treated men (P < 0.001). Adverse effects were not different in the two groups.

Peppermint Oil Promotes Hair Growth without Toxic Signs

Peppermint (Mentha piperita) is a plant native to Europe and has been widely used as a carminative and gastric stimulant worldwide. This plant also has been used in cosmetic formulations as a fragrance component and skin conditioning agent. This study ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The animals were randomized into 4 groups based on different topical applications: saline (SA), jojoba oil (JO), 3% minoxidil (MXD), and 3% peppermint oil (PEO). The hair growth effects of the 4-week topical applications were evaluated in terms of hair growth...

Of the 4 experimental groups, PEO group showed the most prominent hair growth effects; a significant increase in dermal thickness, follicle number, and follicle depth.

Peppermint oil literally outperformed minoxidil!

Here are the effects shown:

Only 24 weeks of treatment.

TL;DR PUFA oils prevent, maybe even reverse balding. Sunflower oil has never been tested, but in theory should work very well and foids swear by it on the intranetz.

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[Loko88]

here we go again with the snakeoils & br0science

 

[randomvanish]

peppermint and castor oil is also legit, the problem is applying on the head daily.

 

[MansNotHot]

here we go again with da snakeoils & br0science

 

[.👽.]

i had good success with garlic in my past too

 

[Deleted member 275]

needs more studies

 

[TITUS]

No.

 

[Deleted member 9511]

lol
reading this would give the ray peaters brain damage

 

[Satan]

Too much broscience dude.
If you suffer from androgenic alopecia like most men, some hair growth enchancing mixture won't do.
Going pure Minoxidil/Peppermint Oil/Rosemary Oil/Whatever Oil is not enough you will loose more and more hair overtime.
You need to prevent folicle miniaturisation by DHT by using something like Finasteride/Dutasteride/RU58841 etc.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

so sunflower oil will increase under eye fat too
not just useful for balding but also useful for under eye support then

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

is there another oil that is more effective than sunflower?

 

[aleksandr]

In my other threads I went into how PUFAs promote fat gain in adipocytes through PPAR. PPAR is the most important adipose tissue receptor out there actually, without it animals literally have no fat and die. I've also made a thread on how it seems that balding may be caused by thinning of the head's fat layer causing reduced E2 causing increase DHT locally(5-ar is opposed by E2, fat layer has a lot of aromatase in it). In fact, fat grafts are now a thing for reversing balding.

So?

PUFAs strongly activate PPAR, infact PUFAs are extremely obesogenic! Not only that, but the cheapest PUFA out there, sunflower oil, easily goes through the skin. I've experimented with sunflower oil on my face and found that it is extremely bloating in the long-term on the skin area applied so I stopped using it, but now I realize it's value as
anti-balding agent and hair-growth promotion.

One of the strongest activators of PPAR-gamma is a fatty acid found in sunflower oil!
Not only that, but plenty of foids use shit like sunflower oil/grapeseed oil for improved hair growth. This is all not cope, many oils show 5-ar inhibition and also show improved hair growth when tested.

I believe sunflower oil may be one of the most effective tools vs balding, simply because it can bloat the fat on top of the scalp and locally increase the amount of aromatase present.

Here is proof of what I say:

Effect of Pumpkin Seed Oil on Hair Growth in Men with Androgenetic Alopecia: A Randomized, Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Trial

Pumpkin seed oil (PSO) has been shown to block the action of 5-alpha reductase and to have antiandrogenic effects on rats. This randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind study was designed to investigate the efficacy and tolerability of PSO for treatment ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Peppermint Oil Promotes Hair Growth without Toxic Signs

Peppermint (Mentha piperita) is a plant native to Europe and has been widely used as a carminative and gastric stimulant worldwide. This plant also has been used in cosmetic formulations as a fragrance component and skin conditioning agent. This study ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Peppermint oil literally outperformed minoxidil!

Here are the effects shown:

View attachment 986902

Only 24 weeks of treatment.

TL;DR PUFA oils prevent, maybe even reverse balding. Sunflower oil has never been tested, but in theory should work very well and foids swear by it on the intranetz.

MODS GIVE ME FREE VIP I KNOW HALF OF U ARE BALDING

Send me a pm, keen to discuss further

Is peppermint oil PUFA?

 

[UnderCovrN0rmie]

i wonder if it could give you hooded eyes too

 

[antiantifa]

Too much broscience dude.
If you suffer from androgenic alopecia like most men, some hair growth enchancing mixture won't do.
Going pure Minoxidil/Peppermint Oil/Rosemary Oil/Whatever Oil is not enough you will loose more and more hair overtime.
You need to prevent folicle miniaturisation by DHT by using something like Finasteride/Dutasteride/RU58841 etc.

There's no bro-science, fatty acids are shown to inhibit 5-ar enzyme, especially PUFAs.

is there another oil that is more effective than sunflower?

Problem is there is neglible amounts of free fatty acids in oils. If you were to get pure arachidonic acid or linoleic acid, that would be a different story.
In vitro pure arachidonic acid can massively improve hair growth:

Role of Arachidonic Acid in Promoting Hair Growth

Arachidonic acid (AA) is an omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acid present in all mammalian cell membranes, and involved in the regulation of many cellular processes, including cell survival, angiogenesis, and mitogenesis. The dermal papilla, composed of ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[antiantifa]

i had good success with garlic in my past too

Oral or topical? In my either thread the pectins in garlic affect PPAR, but I wasn't sure if the amount of pectins was sufficient.

 

[antiantifa]

peppermint and castor oil is also legit, the problem is applying on the head daily.

Just apply before sleep and wash off in the morning? And yes your pillow gets fucked, but you should wash your pillow daily anyways to minimize acne and bloated inflammation in general.

 

[antiantifa]

Send me a pm, keen to discuss further

Is peppermint oil PUFA?

Most plant/herb oil = PUFA.

Herbs are especially interesting, as they often have more free fatty acids instead of triglycerides relative to seed oils. This is why herb oils can kill animals/damage organs/kill insects(certain oils kill cats/dogs in small quantities).

Many here don't know it, but various small bugs and bacteria all cause facial inflammation and acne. Acne isn't fully hormonal, if you just stop being a pig and change your bed everyday, and spray that shit with pesticide oils(make sure is not toxic to any pets u have/might have) u'll resolve most facial inflammation issues(acne, etc...).

 

[antiantifa]

here we go again with the snakeoils & br0science

This type of attitude is why men are so behind foids on personal care. You gotta listen to foids about these type of things, they naturally test everything on themselves, they are the ultimate test subjects.

Who would even know about castor oil without foids? Now castor oil is used everywhere to eyelashmaxx...

 

[.👽.]

Oral or topical? In my either thread the pectins in garlic affect PPAR, but I wasn't sure if the amount of pectins was sufficient.

Topical. I had hairloss at the back of my head when i was a kid and my mother literally rubbed garlic on my head when i went to sleep. Hairloss stopped after a while and everything is normal since then

 

[antiantifa]

Topical. I had hairloss at the back of my head when i was a kid and my mother literally rubbed garlic on my head when i went to sleep. Hairloss stopped after a while and everything is normal since then

Garlic is a weird compound. It definitely enhances PPAR-gamma, but at the same time it inhibits fat gain slightly(not that strong though). Overall, I'd say the effects of garlic in your case weren't mediated by PPAR, mostly likely some different mechanism, there's too many compounds in it tbh to know exactly what it's doing.

 

[.👽.]

Garlic is a weird compound. It definitely enhances PPAR-gamma, but at the same time it inhibits fat gain slightly(not that strong though). Overall, I'd say the effects of garlic in your case weren't mediated by PPAR, mostly likely some different mechanism, there's too many compounds in it tbh to know exactly what it's doing.

I found a study:

Conclusions: Garlic is an efficient and rapid topical treatment for alopecia areata. It is cheep, available and with negligible side effects.

I think i had this alopecia back then. Not a real hairloss like the most males, kinda a disease

 

[Deleted member 4887]

Thanks a lot bro! I'll just rub some fucking sunflower oil on my head with some pieces of garlic and be good as rain

 

[.👽.]

View attachment 987861 Thanks a lot bro! I'll just rub some fucking sunflower oil on my head with some pieces of garlic and be good as rain

You have nothing to lose anymore tbh

 

[Deleted member 4887]

You have nothing to lose anymore tbh

Which is why i will not be wasting my time on 100% copes
Avodart, Minoxidil, 1.5-2mm dermapen, Biotin, Saw palmetto, PRP, laser comb, Mesotherapy

There is not much else that can do shit to fix balding all this natural plant shit is cope

 

[Patient A]

Looks like you are in a padded room. Utter mental Asylumcel

View attachment 987861 Thanks a lot bro! I'll just rub some fucking sunflower oil on my head with some pieces of garlic and be good as rain

 

[.👽.]

Which is why i will not be wasting my time on 100% copes
Avodart, Minoxidil, 1.5-2mm dermapen, Biotin, Saw palmetto, PRP, laser comb, Mesotherapy

There is not much else that can do shit to fix balding all this natural plant shit is cope

Anything of them helped you significantly?

 

[Deleted member 4887]

Anything of them helped you significantly?

Started everything all at once 2.5 weeks ago so too early to say but I will make a full report in 3 months then another 9 months after that

 

[.👽.]

Started everything all at once 2.5 weeks ago so too early to say but I will make a full report in 3 months then another 9 months after that

Minox + dermaroller should give you good results. Im using then since a couple of weeks too for my temples. Lets see

 

[Deleted member 4887]

Minox + dermaroller should give you good results. Im using then since a couple of weeks too for my temples. Lets see

I will be doing 1.5mm or 2mm once a fortnight by dermatoligist

Do you think i should just ask for 2mm since its a proffesional anyway?

 

[randomvanish]

Just apply before sleep and wash off in the morning? And yes your pillow gets fucked, but you should wash your pillow daily anyways to minimize acne and bloated inflammation in general.

it's not very managable if you have someone in your life. my scalp was looking hideous my girlfriend was keep asking.

 

[antiantifa]

it's not very managable if you have someone in your life. my scalp was looking hideous my girlfriend was keep asking.

Why would ur scalp look bad from oil? Did you wash it off tho?

 

[randomvanish]

Why would ur scalp look bad from oil? Did you wash it off tho?

i was doing full night and washing after.

 

[antiantifa]

is there another oil that is more effective than sunflower?

i was doing full night and washing after.

Try THC mixed in coconut oil.

This is effect from CBD which is just way weaker than THC is.

 

[BigBoy]

This type of attitude is why men are so behind foids on personal care. You gotta listen to foids about these type of things, they naturally test everything on themselves, they are the ultimate test subjects.

Who would even know about castor oil without foids? Now castor oil is used everywhere to eyelashmaxx...

Foids are dumb as shit, and the idea that castor oil can helo hair has been around forever.

But these cope methods dont work for mpd. Its min, fin, dut, ru, cb, or cope.

 

[antiantifa]

Foids are dumb as shit, and the idea that castor oil can helo hair has been around forever.

But these cope methods dont work for mpd. Its min, fin, dut, ru, cb, or cope.

And yet you're on an incel forum in a world dominated by foids and somehow they are dumb as shit?

More like you're just another pathetic beta male that can't accept that foids are aeons ahead of us when it comes to looksmaxxing.

 

[BigBoy]

And yet you're on an incel forum in a world dominated by foids and somehow they are dumb as shit?

More like you're just another pathetic beta male that can't accept that foids are aeons ahead of us when it comes to looksmaxxing.

Scratch that, youre dumb as shit.

You think no ones tried to use the products in your dogshit thread? You think people wouldnt use fucking sunflower and peppermint oil if they worked?

The reason why no one uses them is because they dont fucking work. Only pharma-grade products work for hair loss. Or else people would jfl, use cope oils for hair loss.

 

[antiantifa]

Scratch that, youre dumb as shit.

You think no ones tried to use the products in your dogshit thread? You think people wouldnt use fucking sunflower and peppermint oil if they worked?

The reason why no one uses them is because they dont fucking work. Only pharma-grade products work for hair loss. Or else people would jfl, use cope oils for hair loss.

what about the study showing peppermintoil outperforming minox, you fucking dog.

 

[BigBoy]

what about the study showing peppermintoil outperforming minox, you fucking dog.

Buffoon.

Its 3% minoxidil, the typical concentration is 5%. Notice how they lowered the percentage sp skew the results in their favor? They do this with everything that apparently outperforms minox. But it doesnt, minox is the best hair growth stimulant on the market.

 

[Deleted member 9511]

what about the study showing peppermintoil outperforming minox, you fucking dog.

bad study - its done on rats and the minoxidil solution is very small

it works a bit like min - both vasodilators

peppermint oil is a lot less potent but can help some

i have never seen a single person have impressive results using any oil - sometimes you get a few frail little hairs here or there but nothing substantial. Your theory will not work to slow, halt or reverse balding.

Try THC mixed in coconut oil.

This is effect from CBD which is just way weaker than THC is.

am I supposed to see a change aside from his hair being wet?

 

[antiantifa]

Buffoon.

Its 3% minoxidil, the typical concentration is 5%. Notice how they lowered the percentage sp skew the results in their favor? They do this with everything that apparently outperforms minox. But it doesnt, minox is the best hair growth stimulant on the market.

bad study - its done on rats and the minoxidil solution is very sm

it works a bit like min - both vasodilators

peppermint oil is a lot less potent but can help some

i have never seen a single person have impressive results using any oil - sometimes you get a few frail little hairs here or there but nothing substantial. Your theory will not work to slow, halt or reverse balding.



am I supposed to see a change aside from his hair being wet?

Rosemary oil vs minoxidil 2% for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia: a randomized comparative trial - PubMed

Rosmarinus officinalis L. is a medicinal plant with diverse activities including enhancement microcapillary perfusion. The present study aimed to investigate the clinical efficacy of rosemary oil in the treatment of androgenetic alopecia (AGA) and compare its effects with minoxidil 2%. Patients...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

No significant difference was found between the study groups regarding hair count either at month 3 or month 6 (> .05).

Get absolutely fucked retards 0 low IQ inbred mongrels. As for the dosage, the dosage of the oil is the same as minox, if increasing minox improves it's ability then so will increasing the oil dosage. You low IQ apes are aeons behind me on medical research, you don't even understand that every single PUFA is highly estrogenic/anti-androgenic. Absolute dogs tbh don't even reply to this thread anymore.

 

[BigBoy]

Rosemary oil vs minoxidil 2% for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia: a randomized comparative trial - PubMed

Rosmarinus officinalis L. is a medicinal plant with diverse activities including enhancement microcapillary perfusion. The present study aimed to investigate the clinical efficacy of rosemary oil in the treatment of androgenetic alopecia (AGA) and compare its effects with minoxidil 2%. Patients...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Get absolutely fucked retards 0 low IQ inbred mongrels. As for the dosage, the dosage of the oil is the same as minox, if increasing minox improves it's ability then so will increasing the oil dosage. You low IQ apes are aeons behind me on medical research, you don't even understand that every single PUFA is highly estrogenic/anti-androgenic. Absolute dogs tbh don't even reply to this thread anymore.

5% minoxidil is what is used for hair loss, less than that is ineffective.

The Rosemary oil is compared to 2% minoxidil which is ineffetive topically.

Just admit youre retarded and made a shit thread.

 

[antiantifa]

5% minoxidil is what is used for hair loss, less than that is ineffective.

The Rosemary oil is compared to 2% minoxidil which is ineffetive topically.

Just admit youre retarded and made a shit thread.

yeah sure 2% is ineffective but 5% is somehow effective

post sources for ur claim or fuck off u absolute excuse of human excrement

 

[Satan]

5% minoxidil is what is used for hair loss, less than that is ineffective.

Bruh moment

 

[BigBoy]

yeah sure 2% is ineffective but 5% is somehow effective

post sources for ur claim or fuck off u absolute excuse of human excrement

What kind of retarded point is this. Some things work effectively at a higher concentration.

My source? Minoxidil for hair loss is all sold at 5%.

No point in arguing with you, shit thread you abused dog.

Bruh moment

Low iq

2% minoxidil is barely gonna do anything, for legit results 5% is needed. Thats why they use lower concentrations of minoxidil in these studies. Or else theyd use 5% like what is actually used to treat hair loss.

 

[Lux]

why does op have @Dukeys avi?

 

[Satan]

2% minoxidil is barely gonna do anything, for legit results 5% is needed. Thats why they use lower concentrations of minoxidil in these studies. Or else theyd use 5% like what is actually used to treat hair loss.

Bruh 2% is commonly used for female pattern baldness
5% is usually used for men

 

[BigBoy]

Bruh 2% is commonly used for female pattern baldness
5% is usually used for men

We arent women, this thread is for males.

2% works for women but 5% is what works for men. 2% is mot very effective on men.

 

[antiantifa]

What kind of retarded point is this. Some things work effectively at a higher concentration.

My source? Minoxidil for hair loss is all sold at 5%.

No point in arguing with you, shit thread you abused dog.

Low iq

2% minoxidil is barely gonna do anything, for legit results 5% is needed. Thats why they use lower concentrations of minoxidil in these studies. Or else theyd use 5% like what is actually used to treat hair loss.

Ur so fucking stupid u dont even realize it, it's embarassing.

Minoxidil and its use in hair disorders: a review

Minoxidil was first introduced as an antihypertensive medication and the discovery of its common adverse event, hypertrichosis, led to the development of a topical formulation for promoting hair growth. To date, topical minoxidil is the mainstay treatment ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

2% works well and is effective, 5% only works slightly better (diminishing returns).

 

[Satan]

We arent women, this thread is for males.

2% works for women but 5% is what works for men. 2% is mot very effective on men.

2% works for men too
@antiantifa is right you are either illinformed or illiterate

 

[antiantifa]

We arent women, this thread is for males.

2% works for women but 5% is what works for men. 2% is mot very effective on men.

A randomized clinical trial of 5% topical minoxidil versus 2% topical minoxidil and placebo in the treatment of androgenetic alopecia in men - PubMed

In men with AGA, 5% topical minoxidil was clearly superior to 2% topical minoxidil and placebo in increasing hair regrowth, and the magnitude of its effect was marked (45% more hair regrowth than 2% topical minoxidil at week 48). Men who used 5% topical minoxidil also had an earlier response to...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

2% is still effective in men, 5% is just better, but 2% is still effective, if 3% peppermint oil/rosemary oil outperform 3% minox then those oils are simply better than minox.

Either way you're a tard, just use both minox and essential oils.