There is nothing wrong with restricting immigration based on race.

[Aladin]

Right and that’s wrong . Discriminating legally based on race is objectively morally wrong.

No it’s not. The United States used to do this for the majority of its history. Countries are entitled to whatever immigration restriction they choose, it is both a legal and a moral right.

If you were to discriminate based on wealth, level of education etc, than that’s fine. Idk what’s so hard to understand

No, because this implies countries don’t have sovereignty in the complete sense.

 

[Aladin]

It's all about education and where they are born and the environment they grow up in, not ethnicity

That's why all sorts of people from all sorts of countries are allowed into all sorts of countries, because those people still have ''the benefit of the doubt''

Of course, they may have certain restrictions (and this is based more on their country of origin, their culture and civilization, and especially their political environment in the country, not on ethnicity, and the fact that maybe in that country a certain ethnicity is dominant is totally irrelevant) for certain individuals, but also opportunities for inclusion if those individuals demonstrate that they are good citizens

Nope, this is denying sovereignty in the complete sense.

 

[lastofus123]

You’re retarded if you believe the average of someone’s ethnic group is irrelevant.

Its just retarded arguments all around when you see Arabs and blacks cause issues all over the west including countries like Australia despite them actually being relatively well off here

 

[True truecel]

No it’s not. The United States used to do this for the majority of its history. Countries are entitled to whatever immigration restriction they choose, it is both a legal and a moral right.

No, because this implies countries don’t have sovereignty in the complete sense.

You know what else was around for a half of US history? Slavery. Just because something was around in the past doesn’t make it right

YOU think countries are entitled to whatever immigration restriction they choose, and fair enough, but race shouldn’t be a relevant factor in that, that’s morally wrong.

Human beings all have equal moral worth when they are born.

You can still have sovereignty, it’s just morally wrong. Just like Afghanistan or North Korea, we know those states operate with morally questionable laws, yet they still have sovereignty, and no countries want to invest time and effort into helping the citizens of the countries, since war is not ideal.

Do you believe all humans deserve equal rights and have equal moral worth?

 

[Aladin]

Its just retarded arguments all around when you see Arabs and blacks cause issues all over the west including countries like Australia despite them actually being relatively well off here

Correct.

 

[Aladin]

You know what else was around for a half of US history? Slavery. Just because something was around in the past doesn’t make it right

YOU think countries are entitled to whatever immigration restriction they choose, and fair enough, but race shouldn’t be a relevant factor in that, that’s morally wrong.

Human beings all have equal moral worth when they are born.

You can still have sovereignty, it’s just morally wrong. Just like Afghanistan or North Korea, we know those states operate with morally questionable laws, yet they still have sovereignty, and no countries want to invest time and effort into helping the citizens of the countries, since war is not ideal.

Do you believe all humans deserve equal rights and have equal moral worth?

When I was in first grade, I wanted to invite a few kids in my class to my birthday party, however I was told I needed to invite them all.

Is immigration a first grade bday party?

If a country does not want to invite people at all, is that fine?

 

[reptiles]

Continuation:

Why are people so childish when it comes to discussions?

Imagine the following conversation: Person A: the NBA (national basketball association), is a form of entertainment. Person B: sure Person A: so there is no obligation to watch it. Any reason some person wants to not watch it is good enough. Person B: sure Person A: so if I don’t want to watch...

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@widdi @wishIwasSalludon @romanstock @Gamerspyy786 @Sub5UglyMan @Pento

Immigration is a privilege, not a right, so no matter what reason someone wants to reject someone for entering the country, said reason is fine, including racism reasons.

There is a thing called mass migration and there is a thing called racism this is racism this makes no logical sense if your coming from a shit hole country and you followed the legal process your not a burden on the host society.

Super low iq take ngl but even worse than that whites have giga low birth rates ontop of a public health care system good luck funding that cause your getting cooked if your race doesn't breed

 

[True truecel]

When I was in first grade, I wanted to invite a few kids in my class to my birthday party, however I was told I needed to invite them all.

Is immigration a first grade bday party?

If a country does not want to invite people at all, is that fine?

depends. On what basis did you not want to invite those kids? Based on their skin color or because you just didn’t like them?

 

[Aladin]

depends. On what basis did you not want to invite those kids? Based on their skin color or because you just didn’t like them?

In the case of the bday party I was closer with some kids than others. Some kids is disliked some I was neutral.

However that is irrelevant since immigration is people from foreign places.

Furthermore if a country does not want to invite anyone, why is that not fine, or is it?

 

[Aladin]

There is a thing called mass migration and there is a thing called racism this is racism this makes no logical sense if your coming from a shit hole country and you followed the legal process your not a burden on the host society.

Super low iq take ngl but even worse than that whites have giga low birth rates ontop of a public health care system good luck funding that cause your getting cooked if your race doesn't breed

I never said we should eliminate immigration 100%.

 

[True truecel]

In the case of the bday party I was closer with some kids than others. Some kids is disliked some I was neutral.

However that is irrelevant since immigration is people from foreign places.

Furthermore if a country does not want to invite anyone, why is that not fine, or is it?

That’s fine if a country does not want to invite anyone

In fact I think it’s a good thing, if you think it’s a good decision for your economy and the welfare of your people in the long term

But if a country discriminates on letting people into their country based solely on race, then the laws are racist.

I see no issue in letting people of different races into a country As long as they contribute to the economy, pay taxes, uphold good citizenship etc. If they don’t do these things, then they should be deported with only some MINOR margin of grace. After all the immigrants are going to a foreign country, so they have to abide by the laws of the country.

 

[Aladin]

That’s fine if a country does not want to invite anyone

So therefore a country is not obligated to let people in.

In fact I think it’s a good thing, if you think it’s a good decision for your economy and the welfare of your people in the long term

if a country believes it’s a good decision to discriminate on who to let in then that should be fine too.

The problem is advocating for this “all or nothing” approach. If a country decides to invite some, it needs to invite all, that is nonsense.

Furthermore, if a country does not want to let people if certain race in, why should people of that race want to enter said country, in order to be invaders in a place where most do not want them? That sounds like a leech.

 

[True truecel]

So therefore a country is not obligated to let people in.

if a country believes it’s a good decision to discriminate on who to let in then that should be fine too.

The problem is advocating for this “all or nothing” approach. If a country decides to invite some, it needs to invite all, that is nonsense.

Furthermore, if a country does not want to let people if certain race in, why should people of that race want to enter said country, in order to be invaders in a place where most do not want them? That sounds like a leech.

Well, we have to understand why immigrants come to western countries. Western countries are better economically and far superior in HDI. Those immigrants want better opportunities and lives for themselves and their families. That’s usually why they come.

I agree that a country being “forced” to invite all people is wrong. Like I said earlier, the thing that makes it morally wrong is racism. Grouping people together based on wealth, education, criminal history is fine.

If there are trends with race associated with those characteristics then we must ask ourselves why such an association exists.

For example, one of the main racists points is the 13 50 stat. Why does this occur? Obviously black people do indeed commit more crimes per capita, but it’s also because of over policing, because they live in economically poor areas, systemic racism etc.

Also leeches of what? As long as they are contributing to the economy and being a law abiding citizen, they are not doing any harm

 

[Aladin]

For example, one of the main racists points is the 13 50 stat. Why does this occur? Obviously black people do indeed commit more crimes per capita, but it’s also because of over policing, because they live in economically poor areas, systemic racism etc.

It’s because blacks possess lower impulse control:

I agree that a country being “forced” to invite all people is wrong.

Do you believe shaming a country is fine though? Shame can be coercive which is borderline force.

Well, we have to understand why immigrants come to western countries. Western countries are better economically and far superior in HDI. Those immigrants want better opportunities and lives for themselves and their families. That’s usually why they come.

no duh, so they’re willing to come despite not being wanted, which is what a leech would do.

 

[widdi]

I agree. Your nation is an extension of your family. You don’t need a rational reason to not chose to adopt a new son, no matter how smart or rich he may be. I think there’s a benefit to rationalizing immigration policy because gut level tribalism can be a dangerous thing. But once you have racially sealed off countries (more or less) or a demographically conscious immigration policy, I would find someone who wouldn’t want to watch black people on TV just because kind of weird.

 

[Michelangelo]

Continuation:

Why are people so childish when it comes to discussions?

Imagine the following conversation: Person A: the NBA (national basketball association), is a form of entertainment. Person B: sure Person A: so there is no obligation to watch it. Any reason some person wants to not watch it is good enough. Person B: sure Person A: so if I don’t want to watch...

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@widdi @wishIwasSalludon @romanstock @Gamerspyy786 @Sub5UglyMan @Pento

Immigration is a privilege, not a right, so no matter what reason someone wants to reject someone for entering the country, said reason is fine, including racism reasons.

I would say it depends if they are actually fleeing actual wars etc, most immigrants in europe are illegals and come here for money

 

[VolcelFTW]

sure but other countries have just as much as a right not to be trade partners with said country or enact sanctions if they want

 

[looksmaxxed]

genes represent an above 80% influence on the brain which means most if not all cognition and behavior is genetic, that includes values, politics, worldview, etc, and just because there are outliers in one generation, does not mean that behavior is representative of the race in general, and may revert to the mean within another generation or two. this is why the best blacks(judged socioeconomically) still commit more crime than the worst whites. criminality is obviously genetic.

even if you import exclusively outliers from countries with mean iq of 76, within several generations, they regress back to the mean.

when importing people consider the mean iq of the source population. importing from populations of less than 100 iq should be absolutely prohibited. what's the point of people with demographically lower iq than you if you expect them to "muh contribute"? or are people retarded enough to just to turn their country into a dumping ground for bio trash?

other considerations should be visual, cultural, and morality based compatibility, which is all highly correlated to race. genes come in a package. and the visual aspect is significant. discrimination will always exist because it is genetic, as soon as you "train" the more suggestible people into non racists who get themselves killed by niggers, the sooner you create the conditions for more racists to exist. discrimination/racism is evolutionarily adaptive.

a "progressive" society in that regard will always be subsumed by one that is not. the question is do you want it to be subsumed by 130iq white hunks who will carry on your values and customs, and a large portion of your genetics(the ones that matter and are good), or 76 iq ramjeets and 85 iq rasheeds

 

[widdi]

genes represent an above 80% influence on the brain which means most if not all cognition and behavior is genetic, that includes values, politics, worldview, etc, and just because there are outliers in one generation, does not mean that behavior is representative of the race in general, and may revert to the mean within another generation or two. this is why the best blacks(judged socioeconomically) still commit more crime than the worst whites. criminality is obviously genetic.

even if you import exclusively outliers from countries with mean iq of 76, within several generations, they regress back to the mean.

when importing people consider the mean iq of the source population. importing from populations of less than 100 iq should be absolutely prohibited. what's the point of people with demographically lower iq than you if you expect them to "muh contribute"? or are people retarded enough to just to turn their country into a dumping ground for bio trash?

other considerations should be visual, cultural, and morality based compatibility, which is all highly correlated to race. genes come in a package. and the visual aspect is significant. discrimination will always exist because it is genetic, as soon as you "train" the more suggestible people into non racists who get themselves killed by niggers, the sooner you create the conditions for more racists to exist. discrimination/racism is evolutionarily adaptive.

a "progressive" society in that regard will always be subsumed by one that is not. the question is do you want it to be subsumed by 130iq white hunks who will carry on your values and customs, and a large portion of your genetics(the ones that matter and are good), or 76 iq ramjeets and 85 iq rasheeds

Selective migration and regression towards the mean

Regression towards the mean only happens once

www.emilkirkegaard.com

You don’t understand regression to the mean. They don’t infinitely regress back to the mean. If this was the case evolution wouldn’t be possible lmao

Continuation:

Why are people so childish when it comes to discussions?

Imagine the following conversation: Person A: the NBA (national basketball association), is a form of entertainment. Person B: sure Person A: so there is no obligation to watch it. Any reason some person wants to not watch it is good enough. Person B: sure Person A: so if I don’t want to watch...

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@widdi @wishIwasSalludon @romanstock @Gamerspyy786 @Sub5UglyMan @Pento

Immigration is a privilege, not a right, so no matter what reason someone wants to reject someone for entering the country, said reason is fine, including racism reasons.

Agreed. You don’t need a rational reason to not adopt a kid into your family. He isn’t yours… that’s enough of a reason. Now maybe we can be altruistic and take a few immigrants in if they meet conditions, but it’s not a right for those people to be here.

 

[Aladin]

@got.daim

 

[got.daim]

based, I completely agree

 

[True truecel]

It’s because blacks possess lower impulse control:
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Do you believe shaming a country is fine though? Shame can be coercive which is borderline force.

no duh, so they’re willing to come despite not being wanted, which is what a leech would do.

Blacks do not possess lower impulse control. Can you provide a single scientific study that supports your claim?

Also, what do you mean by not being wanted? If the country didn’t want immigration they could just close their borders to immigrants. That is assuming the people of the country have control over their government in a well functioning democracy.

 

[True truecel]

genes represent an above 80% influence on the brain which means most if not all cognition and behavior is genetic, that includes values, politics, worldview, etc, and just because there are outliers in one generation, does not mean that behavior is representative of the race in general, and may revert to the mean within another generation or two. this is why the best blacks(judged socioeconomically) still commit more crime than the worst whites. criminality is obviously genetic.

even if you import exclusively outliers from countries with mean iq of 76, within several generations, they regress back to the mean.

when importing people consider the mean iq of the source population. importing from populations of less than 100 iq should be absolutely prohibited. what's the point of people with demographically lower iq than you if you expect them to "muh contribute"? or are people retarded enough to just to turn their country into a dumping ground for bio trash?

other considerations should be visual, cultural, and morality based compatibility, which is all highly correlated to race. genes come in a package. and the visual aspect is significant. discrimination will always exist because it is genetic, as soon as you "train" the more suggestible people into non racists who get themselves killed by niggers, the sooner you create the conditions for more racists to exist. discrimination/racism is evolutionarily adaptive.

a "progressive" society in that regard will always be subsumed by one that is not. the question is do you want it to be subsumed by 130iq white hunks who will carry on your values and customs, and a large portion of your genetics(the ones that matter and are good), or 76 iq ramjeets and 85 iq rasheeds

Iq has no correlation with race. Can you provide a single scientific study to back up that claim?

 

[Aladin]

Also, what do you mean by not being wanted? If the country didn’t want immigration they could just close their borders to immigrants. That is assuming the people of the country have control over their government in a well functioning democracy.

Why are people not allowed to choose which immigrants they desire vs not desire? If someone wants to choose who to date and not date that is fine.

Edit: what is “HDI” mentioned earlier?

 

[looksmaxxed]

Selective migration and regression towards the mean

Regression towards the mean only happens once

www.emilkirkegaard.com

You don’t understand regression to the mean. They don’t infinitely regress back to the mean. If this was the case evolution wouldn’t be possible lmao



Agreed. You don’t need a rational reason to not adopt a kid into your family. He isn’t yours… that’s enough of a reason. Now maybe we can be altruistic and take a few immigrants in if they meet conditions, but it’s not a right for those people to be here.

you can't think of measurements as one dimentional as iq. it took niggers hundreds of years and many generations of miscegenation just to grow 10 points above africans in iq. but what about all the other aspects related to genetic behaviors? because that's a difference of about 50k years, so in the meantime we just suffer rape, murder, crime, and general insufferable nigger behavior and wait for them to catch up to the rest of humanity? why must this be done. what is so valuable about niggers that they must be forced on white people?

 

[Saint Casanova]

you can't think of measurements as one dimentional as iq. it took niggers hundreds of years and many generations of miscegenation just to grow 10 points above africans in iq. but what about all the other aspects related to genetic behaviors? because that's a difference of about 50k years, so in the meantime we just suffer rape, murder, crime, and general insufferable nigger behavior and wait for them to catch up to the rest of humanity? why must this be done. what is so valuable about niggers that they must be forced on white people?

What do you think about East Asians? They are generally smart, hard working and civilised but lack something compared to most whites making assimilation hard.

 

[BadLuck7892]

Yea of course but not based on race

based on wealth or some sort of standard is completely fine, just based on race is racist obviously

My country was founded/built by Whites/for Whites.

Our immigration should have remained predominantly White.

James, George, and John didn't fight tooth and nail to build this country just so Jose, Juan, and Javier could take over.

 

[BadLuck7892]

What do you think about East Asians? They are generally smart, hard working and civilised but lack something compared to most whites making assimilation hard.

While I don't want us to be demographically replaced by East Asians, I have no problem with a small amount of East Asian immigration. As far as minorities go, East Asians make good neighbors.

 

[looksmaxxed]

What do you think about East Asians? They are generally smart, hard working and civilised but lack something compared to most whites making assimilation hard.

they lack soul, they are like robots. and they are ugly

their affinity for torture killing pets, eating worms and crustaceans alive instead of humanely executing and processing domesticated farm animals demonstrates a difference in level of empathy from whites

in some east asian countries there is a common practice of intentionally killing pedestrians involved in auto accidents in order to avoid paying restitution. bug like mentality

 

[widdi]

you can't think of measurements as one dimentional as iq. it took niggers hundreds of years and many generations of miscegenation just to grow 10 points above africans in iq. but what about all the other aspects related to genetic behaviors? because that's a difference of about 50k years, so in the meantime we just suffer rape, murder, crime, and general insufferable nigger behavior and wait for them to catch up to the rest of humanity? why must this be done. what is so valuable about niggers that they must be forced on white people?

eugenics and embryo selection would allow niggers to behave like whites within 3 generations

 

[looksmaxxed]

eugenics and embryo selection would allow niggers to behave like whites within 3 generations

first of all, no. we are not smart enough to know which combination of traits contribute to a genuine white person as opposed to a mutt abomination birthed from jew tech.

secondly how do you get we wuzzing niggers who think they're the greatest ever to willingly submit to eugenic selection?

your solution: just use magic technology to genetically modify niggers into whites bro, it's that easy

 

[widdi]

first of all, no. we are not smart enough to know which combination of traits contribute to a genuine white person as opposed to a mutt abomination birthed from jew tech.

secondly how do you get we wuzzing niggers who think they're the greatest ever to willingly submit to eugenic selection?

your solution: just use magic technology to genetically modify niggers into whites bro, it's that easy

1. We do, psychometrics has been measuring this stuff for over a hundred years now. We also have admixture data that we can backtest against GWAS hits
2. It won't happen because the govt is run by retards and jews, I was just making a claim on its physical possibility.

 

[Aladin]

1. We do, psychometrics has been measuring this stuff for over a hundred years now. We also have admixture data that we can backtest against GWAS hits
2. It won't happen because the govt is run by retards and jews, I was just making a claim on its physical possibility.

No this is bullshit octoroons are not white

 

[stamaster21]

No it isn’t. If I don’t wanna date a black chick that’s racist but it’s not wrong.

jaffar says your slick, Your trying to compare a personal choice of who you decide to fuck, with a immigration policy for a whole nation/country there not even similar. Mate exclusion is fine because to most humans understand THAT is a personal right of who you decide to fuck and who decide to be friends with or associate with. But where talking about policy about nations.

 

[Aladin]

jaffar says your slick, Your trying to compare a personal choice of who you decide to fuck, with a immigration policy for a whole nation/country there not even similar.

Sure they are, because both are personal preferences. Immigration is not a right.

Mate exclusion is fine because to most humans understand THAT is a personal right of who you decide to fuck and who decide to be friends with or associate with. But where talking about policy about nations.

Countries don’t have a right to choose who to let in and thus associate with?

 

[stamaster21]

You know what else was around for a half of US history? Slavery. Just because something was around in the past doesn’t make it right

YOU think countries are entitled to whatever immigration restriction they choose, and fair enough, but race shouldn’t be a relevant factor in that, that’s morally wrong.

Human beings all have equal moral worth when they are born.

You can still have sovereignty, it’s just morally wrong. Just like Afghanistan or North Korea, we know those states operate with morally questionable laws, yet they still have sovereignty, and no countries want to invest time and effort into helping the citizens of the countries, since war is not ideal.

Do you believe all humans deserve equal rights and have equal moral worth?

i agree 100 percent but these bigots don't see those people as HUMANS. And thats why their crazy idea of excluding immigrants just based on race isnt in effect in todays society on a mass scale. There is no need ask him that question, he already knows hes a bigot.

 

[stamaster21]

Sure they are, because both are personal preferences. Immigration is not a right.

Countries don’t have a right to choose who to let in and thus associate with?

again your trying to compare countries to personal mate choices. A country/nation isnt one person thats why what your saying is bs talk.

 

[Aladin]

i agree 100 percent but these bigots don't see those people as HUMANS. And thats why their crazy idea of excluding immigrants just based on race isnt in effect in todays society on a mass scale. There is no need ask him that question, he already knows hes a bigot.

It isn’t in effect because of Jews retard.

 

[Aladin]

again your trying to compare countries to personal mate choices. A country/nation isnt one person thats why what your saying is bs talk.

It doesn’t matter if people decide something? that’s their right.

 

[Aladin]

We all know the police has bias when targeting black/brown people.

@looksmaxxed @Gargantuan @got.daim

Dude is an sjw

 

[stamaster21]

It isn’t in effect because of Jews retard.

look here you loser bigot go take a bath. Thats what you bigots do when you get mad make personal insults. I guess its the jews fault your a bigot loser. Go on a spaceship and go to your own planet for bigots like you.

 

[Aladin]

look here you loser bigot go take a bath. Thats what you bigots do when you get mad make personal insults. I guess its the jews fault your a bigot loser. Go on a spaceship and go to your own planet for bigots like you.

What race are you? Using “bigot” is a tell tale sign of being a retarded libcuck.

 

[stamaster21]

What race are you? Using “bigot” is a tell tale sign of being a retarded libcuck.

Your clearly a loser, and mad at life and people. As if my race will change you being a loser. Go take a bath, wash the cheetos stains off your shirt and become a better human, then rejoin society.

 

[Aladin]

You’re clearly a loser, and mad at life and people. As if my race will change you being a loser. Go take a bath, wash the cheetos stains off your shirt and become a better human, then rejoin society.

Refusal to answer indicates you’re a non white.

Countries have the right to control their immigration system, you oppose it because you know black/brown countries are inferior to white countries.

 

[stamaster21]

Refusal to answer indicates you’re a non white.

Countries have the right to control their immigration system, you oppose it because you know black/brown countries are inferior to white countries.

stay mad bigot talking about being inferior when YOUR the loser of your race. The countries/nations of the world don't agree with you.
Go take a bath and move out of your mothers basement.

 

[Aladin]

stay mad bigot talking about being inferior when YOUR the loser of your race. The countries/nations of the world don't agree with you.

The shitholes don’t? No duh.

Go take a bath and move out of your mother’s basement.

I own my own house love to see these automation responses.

 

[stamaster21]

The shitholes don’t? No duh.

I own my own house love to see these automation responses.

you own a run- down trailer park and share it with other bigots. Your still a loser thats angry at the world. I know your a loser, because if you were a normal person who was a winner or decent human that was a white man, you wouldnt be so angry and a bigot. You bring up morals because your a loser and have none.

 

[Aladin]

you own a run- down trailer park and share it with other bigots.

Nope.

You’re still a loser thats angry at the world. I know your a loser, because if you were a normal person who was a winner or decent human that was a white man, you wouldnt be so angry and a bigot.

It’s not bigoted to want to maintain ethnic homogeneity in a nation for social cohesion.

 

[stamaster21]

Nope.

It’s not bigoted to want to maintain ethnic homogeneity in a nation for social cohesion.

loser bigot the rest of society doesn't agree, go cry at your next kkk meeting.

 

[Aladin]

loser bigot the rest of society doesn't agree, go cry at your next kkk meeting.

Donald Trump won the election based on deportations which are directed towards latino illegals aliens.