This is the physique that 90% of girls are attracted to! (Brutal Natty Pill)

[Deleted member 13325]

This is my physique I am completely natty. Lean with some muscle mass is what most girls like. You don’t need to roid to have a good physique. Be 6’0, lean and have some muscle mass.

 

[Effortless]

Mine mogs.

When talking about actual best physique though this mogs...

I'll say that once and I'll say it again, ribcage size is giga underrated for physique.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

Mine mogs.

When talking about actual best physique though this mogs...

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I'll say that once and I'll say it again, ribcage size is giga underrated for physique.

the guy barely has abs though. girls like abs just as much as ribcage size or whatever

 

[Deleted member 13325]

Mine mogs.

When talking about actual best physique though this mogs...

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I'll say that once and I'll say it again, ribcage size is giga underrated for physique.

Yeah I lost size on my cut. Frank Zane is not natty.

 

[Deleted member 13335]

Yes you're right one doesn't need to roid to get the most attractive physique, because when one roids it's possible to become very shredded and with very high muscle mass but for many girls it's less attractive then the guy with high-moderate muscle mass, good frame and little body fat

 

[volcelfatcel]

Mine mogs.

When talking about actual best physique though this mogs...

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I'll say that once and I'll say it again, ribcage size is giga underrated for physique.

It's underrated but unless you roid like all these fucks most peoples ribcage size is very genetical and can't be changed ngl

 

[pizza]

Cope,this is ideal

 

[Effortless]

the guy barely has abs though. girls like abs just as much as ribcage size or whatever

He has abs its just the pose and also you don't need super defined skin tight abs

V taper to Ribcage to Waist to Hip ratio is the most important

Yeah I lost size on my cut. Frank Zane is not natty.

This is not Frank Zane, this is Steve Reeves

 

[Deleted member 13325]

He has abs its just the pose and also you don't need super defined skin tight abs

V taper to Ribcage to Waist to Hip ratio is the most important


This is not Frank Zane, this is Steve Reeves

Yeah the golden age guys are not natty. They weren’t running heavy cycles but they were still on the sauce.

 

[one job away]

This is my physique I am completely natty. Lean with some muscle mass is what most girls like. You don’t need to roid to have a good physique. Be 6’0, lean and have some muscle mass.

This is ideal

 

[Deleted member 13335]

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This is ideal

Yes something like that and this is an achievable goal in natural training

 

[Deleted member 13325]

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This is ideal

He looks good but definitely could be running low dose test. Also he has a pro photo shoot with ideal lighting, pump, and angles while I took this pic in my bathroom mirror.

 

[Effortless]

It's underrated but unless you roid like all these fucks most peoples ribcage size is very genetical and can't be changed ngl

Yeah but its like this, very good physique because of V taper but it looks comical because of small ribcage

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Classic physique with actual ribcage development

 

[Deleted member 13335]

Yeah but its like this, very good physique because of V taper but it looks comical because of small ribcage

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Classic physique with actual ribcage development

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These dudes are roiding

 

[volcelfatcel]

Yeah but its like this, very good physique because of V taper but it looks comical because of small ribcage

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Classic physique with actual ribcage development

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Holy shit besides ribcage, his waist is OVERLY thin, like extremely thin, thinner waist is good but is there anything like having too much of a good thing?

Regardless no one can dream of achieving any of these physiques unless they roid sadly

 

[Effortless]

These dudes are roiding

Yes I know I'm just saying what actually more ideal

 

[pizza]

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This is ideal

Irl slayer legit

 

[Deleted member 13325]

Regardless no one can dream of achieving any of these physiques unless they roid sadly
My whole point is that the benefits of roiding to get an incrementally better physique are far outweighed by the cons of anabolic use. Better to look good natty and avoid those cons.

 

[Deleted member 13325]

Yes I know I'm just saying what actually more ideal

Yeah but not worth it unless you’re competing like them.

 

[Effortless]

Holy shit besides ribcage, his waist is OVERLY thin, like extremely thin, thinner waist is good but is there anything like having too much of a good thing?

While it is thin, its not overly thin, just that their shoulder in contrast makes it look super thin because there is no tapering down from the ribcage.

Good development and tapering goes Shoulders to Ribcage to Waist then to hips, those guys look like they go from shoulders straight to waist

 

[volcelfatcel]

Regardless no one can dream of achieving any of these physiques unless they roid sadly
My whole point is that the benefits of roiding to get an incrementally better physique are far outweighed by the cons of anabolic use. Better to look good natty and avoid those cons.

Indeed i'd never roid as i'd shut down natural hormone production and have to be a synthetic exogenous human lmao

 

[Saiyan]

 

[Effortless]

Yeah but not worth it unless you’re competing like them.

This is me natural, for all who said gym or natty is cope

 

[Deleted member 13325]

While it is thin, its not overly thin, just that their shoulder in contrast makes it look super thin because there is no tapering down from the ribcage.

Good development and tapering goes Shoulders to Ribcage to Waist then to hips, those guys look like they go from shoulders straight to waist

Having good shoulders is one of the most important muscles for looking aesthetic. Well developed delts, a small waist and 14-16 inch arms lean. You achieve this by getting strong on overhead press.

 

[Deleted member 13325]

This is me natural, for all who said gym or natty is cope

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You look similar to my physique just leaner.

 

[one job away]

Irl slayer legit

One of the highest paid models in the world afaik. Christian hogue.not sure
If he roids. Could be. But he has the skinny body type which stays lean easily but cant get huuuge. Also his whole life is basicly around exercising. Either way, no one with a normal job and life could achieve his form natural.

He looks good but definitely could be running low dose test. Also he has a pro photo shoot with ideal lighting, pump, and angles while I took this pic in my bathroom mirror.

And that's cope af. You are not even close to his level. Check out his bathroom selfie pics. He is just that insane

 

[volcelfatcel]

This is me natural, for all who said gym or natty is cope

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Very lean, good physique.

 

[Ryan]

Yeah but its like this, very good physique because of V taper but it looks comical because of small ribcage

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Classic physique with actual ribcage development

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These dudes are roiding

Steve was natty i think... He looks big cuz of his bone structure.. In reality he have natty muscle mass on the body

 

[Deleted member 13325]

One of the highest paid models in the world afaik. Christian hogue.not sure
If he roids. Could be. But he has the skinny body type which stays lean easily but cant get huuuge. Also his whole life is basicly around exercising. Either way, no one with a normal job and life could achieve his form natural.

And that's cope af. You are not even close to his level. Check out his bathroom selfie pics. He is just that insane

He is definitely roiding if he is a pro model. I looked much bigger at 15-20% bf but it seems I have lost size after cutting and am looking more flat now.

 

[Deleted member 10330]

This is my physique I am completely natty. Lean with some muscle mass is what most girls like. You don’t need to roid to have a good physique. Be 6’0, lean and have some muscle mass.

You aren't lean enough or muscular enough so it's not 'ideal' sorry dude. About steve reeves, he was natural. If you look at other photos of him he isn't as big as he looks. His proportions are within natty range and are obtainable for someone with great genetics, crazy consistent diet and training. He also wasn't as lean as 'ideal'. Steve reeves proportions + a few % less bodyfat = perfect physique. Cope if you disagree

 

[Mouthbreath]

Yeah but its like this, very good physique because of V taper but it looks comical because of small ribcage

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Classic physique with actual ribcage development

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source on the first three? I want to see how they're training

my theory is that they use straps for everything and never do heavy compounds

 

[Slyfex8]

I find you lack of leanness and abs showing.

But good muscle mass for sure bro

This is my body. I never lifted weight and I critically lack muscle mass especially in pecs and shit but I am pretty sure I am under 12% BF.

I am feared that bulking and getting bigger in clothes would fuck prettyboy pheno that I am looking for tbh

 

[Deleted member 13325]

Steve was natty i think... He looks big cuz of his bone structure.. In reality he have natty muscle mass on the body

Nah Steve was on gear for sure. Guys in the golden era used different compounds and lower doses.

 

[one job away]

He is definitely roiding if he is a pro model. I looked much bigger at 15-20% bf but it seems I have lost size after cutting and am looking more flat now.

Rn you are at like 16-17% bf

 

[Deleted member 10330]

Having good shoulders is one of the most important muscles for looking aesthetic. Well developed delts, a small waist and 14-16 inch arms lean. You achieve this by getting strong on overhead press.

Overhead press is the most overrated exercise to date (after deadlift ofc). If you train chest properly you will do 2-3 pressing movements which use a sufficient amount of front delts. Side laterals are THE MOST important shoulder movement hands down.

 

[Deleted member 13325]

I find you lack of leanness and abs showing.

But good muscle mass for sure bro

This is my body. I never lifted weight and I critically lack muscle mass especially in pecs and shit but I am pretty sure I am under 12% BF.
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I am feared that bulking and getting bigger in clothes would fuck prettyboy pheno that I am looking for tbh

I have terrible at genetics and store fat in that area. My arms are very vascular especially with a pump.

 

[Effortless]

You look similar to my physique just leaner.

I'm leaner, have better chest development and better muscle insertions, symmetrical abs, better ribcage and smaller hip ratio than you tbh

 

[Deleted member 13325]

Rn you are at like 16-17% bf

Nah I am leaner it’s just that I store fat in the abdominal area.

 

[Deleted member 10330]

Nah Steve was on gear for sure. Guys in the golden era used different compounds and lower doses.

He wasn't golden era JFL he was pre golden era.

 

[Slyfex8]

Nah I am leaner it’s just that I store fat in the abdominal area.

tbh it looks like you are bulking or you are around 15% bf

 

[Deleted member 13325]

I'm leaner, have better chest development and better muscle insertions, symmetrical abs, better ribcage and smaller hip ratio than you tbh

How tall are you? I’m 6’0 so I will have a harder time putting on size than a shorter guy. Also the pic you used makes you look leaner. I’m weak on bench press and overhead press is my best lift so my arms/delts are disproportionately bigger than my chest. My ab genetics are not good I store fat there and don’t train abs at all.

 

[Effortless]

source on the first three? I want to see how they're training

my theory is that they use straps for everything and never do heavy compounds

Steve Reves and Jim haislop

Pretty much the era before Arnold, pre golden era bodybuilding where they would also train for ribcage expansion

 

[Deleted member 13325]

tbh it looks like you are bulking or you are around 15% bf

I am around 13-15%. I just have bad ab genetics and store fat in that area.

 

[Effortless]

How tall are you? I’m 6’0 so I will have a harder time putting on size than a shorter guy. Also the pic you used makes you look leaner. I’m weak on bench press and overhead press is my best lift so my arms/delts are disproportionately bigger than my chest. My ab genetics are not good I store fat there and don’t train abs at all.

The pics I used makes me look leaner, no its because I am actually leaner. I have only ever bulked once and that was it, I stay around 12% all year round pretty much

I'm 5'9 and half

 

[Deleted member 13325]

The pics I used makes me look leaner, no its because I am actually leaner. I have only ever bulked once and that was it, I stay around 12% all year round pretty much

I'm 5'9 and half

I’m 3 inches taller than you. I used to play OLB at 6’ 210, I’m built to be a bigger guy so I have a hard time leaning down.

 

[Effortless]

You aren't lean enough or muscular enough so it's not 'ideal' sorry dude. About steve reeves, he was natural. If you look at other photos of him he isn't as big as he looks. His proportions are within natty range and are obtainable for someone with great genetics, crazy consistent diet and training. He also wasn't as lean as 'ideal'. Steve reeves proportions + a few % less bodyfat = perfect physique. Cope if you disagree

I honestly think Steve Reves had an ideal physique, not too big just right with perfect proportion.

 

[Deleted member 13325]

The pics I used makes me look leaner, no its because I am actually leaner. I have only ever bulked once and that was it, I stay around 12% all year round pretty much

I'm 5'9 and half

And the weird thing is I got way more respect from guys when I was a 210 pound football player but seem to get more IOIs from chicks when I lean down. Some girls are into that bulked up look though.

 

[Effortless]

And the weird thing is I got way more respect from guys when I was a 210 pound football player but seem to get more IOIs from chicks when I lean down. Some girls are into that bulked up look though.

Bulked up do look better in clothes if it doesn't affect your face that much tbh

But when I go to the beach or playing football with my mates with my shirt off, I physique mog everyone around me and get catcalled by girls

Not to mention that picture was me when I was already 17/18, I look better and more filled out than that now

 

[Deleted member 13325]

Bulked up do look better in clothes if it doesn't affect your face that much tbh

But when I go to the beach or playing football with my mates with my shirt off, I physique mog everyone around me and get catcalled by girls

Not to mention that picture was me when I was already 17/18, I look better and more filled out than that now

Most guys in gyms fall into two categories. They are either skinny or fat powerlifter types. So just being lean with some muscle mass is good enough.

 

[Effortless]

Most guys in gyms fall into two categories. They are either skinny or fat powerlifter types. So just being lean with some muscle mass is good enough.

Yours is still not ideal for natty though, maybe in 1 year or half a year then get lean you'll be good

also depends on insertions and where you store fat