This is What Hydroxyapatite Implants Look Like Before Installation

[ActualMax]

This is the only photo that I have found that actually shows what hydroxyapatite implants look like.

The main advantage of these is that your body accepts these implants as bone over time and there is a much lower risk of infection.

Downside is that they shrink 30% over time, so there is much unpredictability with their placement and size over time.

In a perfect world, you would get these made using a mould to get the perfect shape you are looking for.

@RealSurgerymax get on it .

 

[Deleted member 137749]

This is the only photo that I have found that actually shows what hydroxyapatite implants look like.

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The main advantage of these is that your body accepts these implants as bone over time and there is a much lower risk of infection.

Downside is that they shrink 30% over time, so there is much unpredictability with their placement and size over time.

In a perfect world, you would get these made using a mould to get the perfect shape you are looking for.

@RealSurgerymax get on it .

They are already doing them custom 3d , not long ago i've seen some study talking about it. Hope it will be reality soon.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

This is the only photo that I have found that actually shows what hydroxyapatite implants look like.

View attachment 3917898

The main advantage of these is that your body accepts these implants as bone over time and there is a much lower risk of infection.

Downside is that they shrink 30% over time, so there is much unpredictability with their placement and size over time.

In a perfect world, you would get these made using a mould to get the perfect shape you are looking for.

@RealSurgerymax get on it .

HA Implants are gimmick.

The body "accepts" other implant materials just as well.

The body "integrates" HA but thats not a selling point when you realize that means it unpredictably remodels and resorbs.

They do NOT have a lower infection rate.

These are NOT the ideal implant material. If I wanted to use them, I could have the made easily. If some know-it-all obsessive autist came to me and wanted them against my advice, I would order them. So they are already available at Giant, I just dont want to use them because I know thats not what's best for you.

 

[Foreverbrad]

HA Implants are gimmick.

The body "accepts" other implant materials just as well.

The body "integrates" HA but thats not a selling point when you realize that means it unpredictably remodels and resorbs.

They do NOT have a lower infection rate.

These are NOT the ideal implant material. If I wanted to use them, I could have the made easily. If some know-it-all obsessive autist came to me and wanted them against my advice, I would order them. So they are already available at Giant, I just dont want to use them because I know thats not what's best for you.

What are your thoughts on Medpor? I saw in another post you had used it a few times but you didn’t elaborate. Also a gimmick?

 

[Whirr22222]

I asked my maxfac surgeon about these last month he said he never has used them and they are a gimmick as Giant said

 

[lurking truecel]

I asked my maxfac surgeon about these last month he said he never has used them and they are a gimmick as Giant said

I mean gunson uses them, but revision rate on them is high because its extremly unpredictable how the bone will grow into it

 

[LEFORT17]

I mean gunson uses them, but revision rate on them is high because its extremly unpredictable how the bone will grow into it

@jaymog got them i think, would be good know if something changed since surgery

 

[jaymog]

@jaymog got them i think, would be good know if something changed since surgery

Looks the same as the day after surgery for me. I'm very satisfied with them. Not sure what they actually looked like prior to surgery, I believe Gunson uses a paste and shapes them, could be wrong though.

FWIW he showed me 1000s of cases compiled into research on biological acceptance, before and after result accuracy, and patient satisfaction.

Anything is a “gimmick” in the wrong hands and every surgeon has their own preference or idea of what is best.

Pick who you trust.

 

[kingofkings]

Looks the same as the day after surgery for me. I'm very satisfied with them. Not sure what they actually looked like prior to surgery, I believe Gunson uses a paste and shapes them, could be wrong though.

FWIW he showed me 1000s of cases compiled into research on biological acceptance, before and after result accuracy, and patient satisfaction.

Anything is a “gimmick” in the wrong hands and every surgeon has their own preference or idea of what is best.

Pick who you trust.

Is it true that the HA implant is "moldable" for a week after it's been applied? In the sense you can push it and change the shape and position a little bit whilst it's still setting?

 

[AustrianMogger]

HA Implants are gimmick.

The body "accepts" other implant materials just as well.

The body "integrates" HA but thats not a selling point when you realize that means it unpredictably remodels and resorbs.

They do NOT have a lower infection rate.

These are NOT the ideal implant material. If I wanted to use them, I could have the made easily. If some know-it-all obsessive autist came to me and wanted them against my advice, I would order them. So they are already available at Giant, I just dont want to use them because I know thats not what's best for you.

What is best implant Material?

 

[jaymog]

Is it true that the HA implant is "moldable" for a week after it's been applied? In the sense you can push it and change the shape and position a little bit whilst it's still setting?

Yes. Gunson said, and in post op instructions, it was shapeable for 6-8 weeks post op. I couldn’t sleep on my side or touch the area with any real force for 8 weeks. He felt mine at each week check up post up and only minorly adjusted one time.

 

[monecel]

Just do PEEK

 

[RealSurgerymax]

What is best implant Material?

Titanium and PEEK.

Soon I believe it will be PEKK, which is why I am trying to bring it to market within the next 2 years.

 

[AustrianMogger]

Titanium and PEEK.

Soon I believe it will be PEKK, which is why I am trying to bring it to market within the next 2 years.

How does it differ from PEEK?

 

[kingofkings]

Titanium and PEEK.

Soon I believe it will be PEKK, which is why I am trying to bring it to market within the next 2 years.

I've heard PEKK is more biocompatible or something. But do you think it also gives superior aesthetic results?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

I've heard PEKK is more biocompatible or something. But do you think it also gives superior aesthetic results?

No difference in results because of its material properties.

The difference is better details and features can be manufactured into it like soft tissue anchors, which can effect the outcome

Right now I am building this into titanium implants.

 

[wyatt737]

Yes. Gunson said, and in post op instructions, it was shapeable for 6-8 weeks post op. I couldn’t sleep on my side or touch the area with any real force for 8 weeks. He felt mine at each week check up post up and only minorly adjusted one time.

how much were the malar implants for you? and was it purely an aesthetic procedure? i had planned on getting these kinda implants myself but from the australian doctor Dr R Huggins, and how were your results