Truth about women. Why you're (probably) doing it wrong as an HTN/Low Chadlite.

Gren · 2025-07-17T20:34:38-0500

Disclaimer before you read:
This guide is half blackpill/half redpill.
Note that everything that is written that involves approaching women
is to be applied only if you're HTN or above,
if you're below that, use at your own risk.
You probably know things about it.
This guide is not exhaustive and does not cover all topics.
It's here to help you better understand women, and how to deal with them.
TRUTH ABOUT WOMEN.

Street/bar seduction is like deer hunting. Satisfying.
Tinder is like reheating pizza in the microwave. Sad.

The best way to progress is still to practice.
Don't expect to see dazzling results after your first five attempts (and if you do, good for you).
Chad: Why are you even there?
Low Chadlite: Try 5.
High HTN: 10.
Mid HTN: 15.
Low HTN: 20.
Below: Sorry this doesn't apply to you.
The "redpill" is a hoax to sell you methods that fail because you're facially inferior.

Coming from a guy who's slept with quite a few, I hope this helps you. Here are some truths that aren't necessarily obvious:

Part 1

Very pretty girls are easier to hit on than girls who are just cute.
"Nice" girls are often more sexually excited than "bad", "unstable" girls due to frustration.
Kissing a girl and getting rejected gives you a better chance of sleeping with her in the long run than not trying anything at all.
Girls aged 18-21 are easier to hit on than those 22+ because they haven't yet been duped by several guys who don't call them back.
The guys who are the worst at seduction/the least attractive have more long-term relationships than the real players.
The more you need a girl, the less attracted she will be to you.
You'll get shot down less if you start heating things up with a girl outside the bedroom (couch, kitchen) than if you start directly on the bed (risk of her saying: "we don't know each other well enough," "this is going too fast," etc.).
She will be more attracted to you if you talk about subjects like sex or if you flirt outrageously with her than if you talk about your travels, passions.
An High Tier Becky gets more serious hits on than a Stacy, because most male believe they are 6/10 and thus deserve 6/10
If she's interested in your relations (e.g., "why are you single," "do you hit on all girls?") it's a dead giveaway that she's attracted. If you just have nice chats, it's the opposite.
The more drama you create and the more she sulks or even cries, the more attracted she will be to you. Ups and down are keys, even if they are artificially created.
A girl doesn't need to like your opinions to sleep with you. Quit sugarcoating your opinions.
The higher your IQ, the lower your "cro-magnon" man skills with girls are, which reduces her attraction to you.
If she knows you're hitting on, texting, or seeing other girls, her attraction to you increases proportionately.
If she calls you an asshole or a bastard, your chances of sleeping with her increase.
The more you study girls sociologically, the scam of feminism, etc., the more your hatred grows and the more your seduction skills weaken.
If you cancel a date at the last minute to reschedule it for another time, her attraction for you increases.
Avoid females who are on therapy; their meds are killing their sexual drive.
Having chemistry or a good connection with a girl makes a one-night stand more difficult.
Not cooking, cleaning, or "scratching your balls" in front of her after sleeping together (not immediately after) increases her attraction to you.

Part 2

Non-verbal language is much more important than what you actually say.
A woman isn't "bad," a "whore," or a "bitch." Her natural biology is more important than her religion, her country's culture, or her status. You can totally fuck a religious, virgin foid.
Push her away playfully, don't try to attract her by complimenting her.
Give her the opportunity to chase you.
Never hide your intentions. You want to be her lover, not her friend.
Seduction is a dance like the one between the fisherman and the fish. You have to maintain the tension on the line while knowing when to reel it in.
Height, muscles, and physique are only secondary in seduction. You are what you think you are. If you think you're short, fat, and ugly, you will be in the eyes of others.
A girl is a mirror. Don't take rejection personally, but draw conclusions from it.
There is an inverse correlation between the amount of time you spend complaining about girls on the internet and the number of girls you sleep with.
If she leads between the two of you before sex (where to sit, where to go, what to do), then you're headed straight for a wall.
Every step in this guide is better if you have at least one side-chick. Get the first one and collect them.

Part 3

By trying to escalate physically too quickly, you risk slowing things down. Calibrate.
The #1 problem men have with women: not hitting on enough of them and hiding their intentions.
Seduction is a secret between you and the girl. She likes it when it's discreet.
The more you talk during a date, the fewer chances you have of sleeping with her.
Charisma is a projection of power and warmth, almost as much as your looks.
Cut drastically everything that is toxic and makes you negative and angry. Whether it's the news, X, or even Looksmax / incels.is (fucking larper) forums.
In seduction, be the man who rolls the dice. Not the die itself.
The more success you have with women, the less you hate feminism.
Success with women, above what your SMV gives you = 90% practice + 10% theory.
Having a smirk on your face while looking at her that says: "I know that you know that I know."

Part 4

The fact that you are the leader with the girl is more important than where you take her.
You must allow the girl to chase you; don't hesitate to disappear from the radar and take a long time to reply to her texts.
The length of your texts must be shorter than hers, and you must take longer to reply than she does. Take your phone, display the conversation with her, and hold it out at arm's length. If your bubbles are bigger than hers, if you send more photos, something is wrong.
Short bubbles = Aggression. Large bubble = Defence. You don't want to be the guy who need to defend himself.
Talk as little as possible via Whatsapp, Snapchat, whatever shit you're using. Obviously this doesn't apply to Tinder, but you get it now; this thread isn't about Tinder.
After meeting a girl, 1 or 2 messages are enough to invite her for a drink. Seduction happens face to face, not in the virtual world.
In seduction, the person who needs the other the least has the power.
Don't think about how girls should change their behavior. Think about the changes YOU need to make to please them.
Act as if you know a naughty secret about her with a smirk on your face; the charm must be implicit. Never forced.
Seduction happens on the street, in bars, in cafes where YOU approach, where YOU accept the invitation she sent when you eyes met. Not behind a computer. Be the one who chooses, not the one who is chosen.
If at any given moment you can afford to abandon a girl (because you have others or act like you do), you have the greatest weapon.
Customers like to buy what they want, not what salespeople push them to buy. She has to feel like she's chasing you.

Part 5

A Stacy is nothing more than a girl you think you can't get. HTN can have Stacies in their beds.
Human nature makes us seek the approval of those with greater value than ours. A girl must qualify herself to you, not you to her.
Don't say half of what you think; be honest with a girl, even if it means being harsh.
Don't say "sorry I'm late" but "thanks for your patience." This may sound like LinkedIn bullshit, but mechanics are very similar.
There will always be a conflict of interest between the seller and the client. The man (casual sex with multiple girls) and the woman (resources and children).
Physical escalation isn't the only important thing. It's the message you send with it (you desire her, she attracts you sexually).
Never talk religion or politics with a girl during a date, NEVER. You can start from the moment you made her cum. Not before.
If the seduction is too easy, the girl is on a lower level than you. Aim for the moon, not the haystack.
You want to know if she's interested or just there to get a free drink and refresh her ego? Escalate physically and observe her response.
Being needy comes from a lack of options and leads to over-investing in a single target, which ruins the girl's attraction for you. Have several arrows in your quiver.

Part 6

If she initiates physical contact, get ready to call an Uber right to your bed. Green light 101.
Men are attracted to young and pretty girls. Girls are attracted to men with power (those who think directly of money or muscles are on the wrong track).
Reading this kind of advice I'm giving you is great, but putting it into practice is much more important.
Be the puzzle the girl wants to solve, not the tissue she wipes her emotions on.
The real reason to hold the door for a girl is to look at her ass.
Don't ask your buddies or female friends (even worse) what works. Get out in the field and test it.
Don't ask a girl how to be successful with them, but rather your buddies who are successful. A fisherman doesn't ask the fish for advice.
Listen to what she DOES. Not what she SAYS.
The real risk with girls is not trying anything. You only have one life.

Part 7

"I don't know what to talk about during a date." It's easy, talk about the subject she loves the most: HER. Her past, her present, her future.
"I'm nervous about asking for her number." It's simple, verbalize your awkwardness: "Here's the awkward moment where we exchange numbers to go for a drink later."
She doesn't reply to your message or cancels/refuses your proposal without offering an alternative? Next.
Don't blame the girls or society. Blame yourself and your seduction skills.
A girl will never put you in the Friendzone if you clarify your intentions. Don't hide your dick.
If "being yourself" was enough, you would already have the sex life you dream of. Don't be someone else, improve yourself and work on your seduction to be the best version of yourself.
"Nice girls" are just "bad girls" who haven't been caught yet.
If she tells you: "I have a boyfriend," reply with a smile: "I don't want to be your boyfriend" and continue.
There is no "perfect moment." Physical escalation on a date is often messy. Lead and do it.

Part 8

Even if you have no idea what you're doing with her, act like you know.
A man cannot and should not be friends with a girl he desires sexually.
She feels what you feel. Don't forget that you have to give if you want to receive.
Three examples of bullshit advice that don't help men progress:
- "Be natural"
- "Be authentic"
- "Be yourself"
If that were the case, you would all have the sex life you dream of (I'm not saying not to be yourselves, but to be the best version of yourselves by working on it).
Don't ask girls questions, give them affirmations. Transform "what do you do for a living?" into "I imagine you work in something creative."
Your job is to lead her to a decision, not to get her to say yes. Become good at spotting the girls who are dead ends.
Being needy is the #1 attraction killer.
Your value isn't just physical or due to money. I know low HTN guys who aren't good-looking or rich who sleep with Stacies.
Effeminate men are desired by masculine girls. Masculine men desire feminine girls. Believing that a feminine man in a girl's eyes is a guy who wears skinny jeans and doesn't lift is wrong.
Being social is not the same as being sexual. If you're just social you'll make the girl laugh but you won't sleep with her. Own your desires.

Part 9

When a girl tests you (e.g., "you're short," "that guy over there is better looking than you," "you're not muscular"), be non-reactive. If you react, you've lost. Instead, agree and amplify. E.g., for "you're short," reply "and you haven't even seen my micro-penis."
Being fixated on a single girl without having slept with her is the biggest obstacle to becoming a good seducer.
What girls say they like and what they actually desire are two completely different things.
When you like or comment on her photos on social media, her attraction and respect for you decrease.
Seducing without looking like you're doing it, that's seduction.
Becoming good will never let you have all the girls, but it will increase your chances.
Girls don't want to win, they want a winner.
A woman's biological instinct is stronger than religion and political or social ideas.
Worst texts to send to a girl:
- "How are you?"
- "Did you have a good day?"
- "What's up?"
Once a girl has put you in the friend zone, getting out of it is very complex and a waste of time, next.
Stop asking her: "How's it going?" or "Are you having fun?" when she's with you. Don't seek her approval.
Becoming good at seduction is like becoming good at guitar. Practice, practice, and practice.
Don't approach a girl while wearing sunglasses.
Don't dream of "Pussy Paradise." It doesn't exist. The country where you'll have the easiest time picking up is the one where you live.
Your physique matters if it's all you have to offer.
Bad seducers and "beta males" like to mock "alpha males" with phrases like:
"A real man settles down with one girl."
"Casual sex is behind me."
In truth, man is not biologically made to be monogamous.
Worst questions to ask a girl you just met:
- "What's your name?"
- "Where do you live?"
- "What do you do for a living?"
Things to avoid to be good at seduction: lack of sleep, negative friends, inaction, fast food, television, isolation, complaining on a forum, and having a victim mentality.
New girls are better than trying to fix the ones where you've already messed up. Next.

Part 10

When you hit on a girl, don't overthink it and appeal to your animal brain.
A girl never puts a guy in the friend zone; it's the guy who puts himself there.
Narcissism is a key to attracting girls.
To increase your success rate, you must double your failure rate.
1 year of approaching girls will give you more social intelligence than 10 years of normal life.
The risks in case of failure are small (rejection, her not responding), while the rewards in case of success are immense (sex, relationship, children).
The "woman of your life" doesn't exist. There are several "women of your life." I myself have already met several.
The most dangerous risk: doing nothing today by telling yourself you'll do it tomorrow.
In the history of humanity, there has never been a time when seduction was easier. Stop complaining.
Personal development is bullshit. It pumps your time into reading theory when you should be practicing.

Part 11

Don't audition to become her little boyfriend; be the judge.
Marriage is the #1 cause of divorce.
The extremely dumb sentence: "I didn't think you were that kind of girl " works.
Stop looking at women as magnificent marble statues and more like an all-you-can-eat buffet.
A girl is neither good nor bad. She adapts to what you want. If you play the ideal son-in-law, she will position herself as a little girlfriend. If you play the bad boy, she will be inclined to play the villain.
Overthinking leads to negative thoughts.
You can't be friends with a girl you find attractive and want to sleep with. Stop friendzoning yourselves.
Don't explain to a girl why she acts a certain way sociologically. It won't make you more interesting.
When men get older, they look like Sean Connery. When women get older, they look like... Sean Connery.
What matters is what you do, not what you say or plan.

Part 12

"Why me?", "Life isn't fair," "it's the genetic lottery," "women are all whores," "there's a Zionist feminist conspiracy." The victim and loser mentality is toxic AND addictive. Get away from it or embrace it, do whatever you want but stop whining about the rules, you don't have the power to change them.
NT behavior is acting the same in front of a Stacy the same way you behave in front of an ugly friend.
Reading these truths without applying them or believing them will lead you to being: frustrated, angry, mean, depressed.
White Knights defend girls against bad boys, but complain when they make love to these bad boys and wonder "why isn't she being a slut with me?". Most incels are white knights in denial.
You are what you think you are.
If you don't work to achieve what you want, you will never have it.
Asking a guy in a long-term relationship for seduction advice is like asking the cashier at McDonald's how to go on a diet.
Be so confident in yourself that it becomes irrational (to get used to it).
If you go out with a girl who is neither younger nor prettier than you, you're on the wrong track.
If you are reactive and easily provoked by a girl, you've lost.

Part 13

Persuasion is not a science but an art.
You don't get what you deserve; you get what you work for.
The banal discussions are indispensable but not sexy. Don't spend your whole date on them.
The best time to make a decision about a girl is right after having sex with her.
Statistically speaking, more than 30% of the girls neurotypical HTN fuckboy slayed had a boyfriend or a fuck buddy.
A girl only needs a few minutes to know if you are a potential lover.
If her bra and panties are the same color, she knew what was going to happen.
A seducer, a poker player, or a trader have in common that they only look at the long-term results.
How you're going to spend the rest of your life is your choice alone.
See sex everywhere, as if women are always in the mood for it. It will greatly improve your seduction.

Part 14

Anonymity is key in seduction: if you're passionate about beautiful girls, it's preferable to live in a city with more than 1 million inhabitants.
A white knight with fantasies of pure girls who always gets friend-zoned will be passively aggressive towards the girls and the men who take their destiny into their own hands. Don't be like that.
A real man is someone who defends women, takes care of them, brings them things, and does good around him. If you think that, you're on the wrong path.
Men aren't looking for a girl to make love to. Many are in need of affection and looking for a mother substitute.
"Casual sex with different girls is pointless," says the jealous guy in a long-term relationship with his girlfriend with whom he has sex once a week.
Always be on with several girls at the same time.
Don't waste your time with "personal development."
"Nice" guys aren't nice. They suppress their instincts, hide their feelings, and deny their fantasies.
The fantasy of purity. Dividing girls into "sluts" or "saints" reveals your glaring lack of experience.
Girls don't want a nice guy. Show them adventure, domination, power, leadership. Being nice makes them "go limp," if I may say so.

Part 15

Men with a lower IQ have fewer problems leading and escalating physically.
Fear leads men to live a boring life.
In seduction, as in Poker, you lose more hands than you win. But when you win, you win big.
The longer you wait to sexualize, the more difficult it will be.
Meeting / Discussion / Gossip = Feminine. Mission / Debate / Action = Masculine.
Making topics to complain about women's behavior makes as much sense as making topics to complain about the behavior of children or puppies.
Seducing a girl who doesn't speak your language is easier if you're good. Silence, sexual tension, ... primitive.
As soon as she sees you as a potential boyfriend, she will put the brakes on sex in no time.
Making a girl laugh doesn't necessarily help with seduction and can have the opposite effect.
Your energy presents you before you even open your mouth.

Part 16

In seduction, you have to be a rational optimist (positive, active, happy) and not a pessimist (victim mentality, complaining about society, angry, depressed).
The longer the date, the less chance you have of sleeping with her.
"Sorry," "Excuse me," are words to banish from your vocabulary.
When it comes to making a decision, it's not the one who is right who wins, but the one with the most conviction.
Being a beautiful 18-year-old girl is like suddenly getting 1 million dollars and having to invest it wisely before it disappears in 10 years.
If you do what everyone else does, then you're doing it wrong.
Sexual tension is not comfortable, but don't break it; embrace the awkwardness it provokes.
The things you don't want to hear on a date:
- "Wow, your stories are interesting."
- "Haha, you're funny."
- "Ah, you're a really nice guy."
Audacity makes even the smallest of animals dangerous.
Provoking drama earns you a ton of attraction: silence, jealousy, challenging, pretending to leave. Bad boy 101.

Part 17

Girls like to sleep with married men because they prefer non-needy, no-strings-attached sex over a guy who will become too clingy.
One is too close to 0. Always have options with several girls to avoid being needy.
Tinder is a very good thing for real seducers. The more guys hiding behind their screens, the easier and more appreciated seduction in real life becomes for women.
Self-sufficiency is the greatest of riches.
The perfect accusation for a girl: calling her "little one." Little princess, little bitch. They like to feel small.
When a girl has an overly princessy behavior, don't hesitate to yell at her. Very recently, a Russian girl arrived 30 minutes late for a date. I gave her a piece of my mind and asked her to apologize. That's all she was waiting for. We ended up at my place.
"Those who look hungry will never be fed." Too eager, too many texts, texts longer than hers, getting emotional, putting the girl on a pedestal ("she's different from the others"), these are the sins of the future friend-zoned.
When guys feel a 'connection' with a girl and say 'she's not like the others,' they let their guard down, lose control, and lose.
Worst texts to send:
- "Hey, how's it going?"
- "Are you free at what time?"
- "Do you want to go for a drink?"
No pretty girl is ever completely single. Get over it, accept it.

Part 18

Creating a silence, whether during a conversation or by text, allows you to evaluate her interest by seeing if she re-engages.
Walk down the street with your shoulders back, chin up, taking up space.
The best moment to kiss her is when she's talking.
A large part of her attraction to you is built when you're not there. The longer she's there, sitting, thinking about you, the better.
Use ironic phrases: "I would make a very bad boyfriend." "I'm lazy, I need a woman who does the cooking."
Women love men who represent a challenge. Once you are no longer one, she will gradually get bored.
When she talks about her ex, saying: "I left him because he was this, that," that's exactly how you should be.
When you start seduction, force yourself to break monotonous discussions.
A good text: "I'm thirsty, let's go for a drink tomorrow night. And don't forget to wear something sexy for me "
A bad text: "Hey, what's up? Free for a drink tomorrow? 8 pm?"
Women, like children and puppies, are in the moment. Their emotions dictate their behavior, and it can change very quickly. Make her feel, not think.

Part 19

When you say "this one is different," you're wrong. She's not, it's the situation that is. The biology of women remains the same.
Every time she says goodbye, she should wonder if she'll see you again, if you like her, and if you're seeing other girls.
Seduction leads to several options. Several options lead to several choices. Several choices lead to freedom.
Don't wait for her to be ready for physical escalation. She will be ready when you escalate.
A "Beta" male is always ready to hang out with girls.
Shy and innocent girls (the good girls) are the ones with the most sexual desire.
What girls say they want is often the exact opposite of what they really want.
When you become good at seduction, social discussions become unbearable (what do you do for a living, where are you from, etc.).
People who say that in seduction you just have to be yourself and not learn anything will never sleep with a lot of girls.
Pretty girls will never know if they are really interesting or not.

Part 20

Never qualify yourself when a girl tests you. Play on offense, not defense.
A girl will often ask you the same questions to test you; you should have answers for the most frequent ones.
Quickly move past the boring chit-chat (what do you do for a living, etc.) and escalate verbally and physically.
The cost of a monogamous relationship/keeping the same girl for too long: Stagnation, pushes you to find excuses, makes you physically and mentally soft.
Seduction is a sport with direct feedback from the girl. Talking about seduction on a forum won't make you progress much.
Don't be desperate to plan the next date. Let her wonder if she'll see you again.
Making her angry is always better than making her feel nothing. Be her emotion dealer.
Humans are not made for monogamy. Rather than raging against it, use it to your advantage.
Don't try to make her comfortable. Silences, physical escalation, strong emotions... the tension is very seductive, don't break it.

Part 21

Tinder is not seduction because it's the girls who choose you. Be the one who chooses instead.
Seducing a beautiful 18-21 year old girl is like driving a Formula 1 car in the rain.
The number of arrows in your quiver is directly proportional to your level of neediness.
If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough.
The fact that women have lovers and "providers" only pisses off the providers.
Biology > Ideology.
Keep your dominant male frame and the girl in front of you will accept being dominated without batting an eye.
Embrace her tests. It's a good sign. She's checking if you are dominant enough to let her take control from you.
Women fall in love with what you are, only to then try to make you become what you are not. They are attracted to the lover and disgusted by the provider.
In the very beginning, it's up to you to work to attract the girl. She won't fall under your charm in 5 seconds.

Part 22

When you propose a date to a girl and she says she can't, without suggesting another date, it's dead, move on.
Ex: "Sorry I can't on Monday. Thursday?" -> Good. "Sorry I can't on Monday." -> Bad.
Beta male: monogamous couple -> Bank loan -> Tertiary job.
Alpha male: Several girls -> His own boss -> Free.
Question from the jean-virgins: "Isn't it boring to sleep with lots of girls with no strings attached?"
Alpha's answer: "Less than staying in a long-term relationship and for at least 2 years sleeping once a week with the same girl."
The excuses of jean-virgins for not working on their seduction: "That only works with good-looking guys / That only works with easy girls / It's not natural." I'm not particularly good-looking and I've slept with neurologists, doctors, lawyers, etc. Never a hairdresser or a cashier, though.
If you've made it this far on this topic, you have enough to start working on your seduction.
Create more content than you consume.
A victim mentality is for weak men. A positive and proactive mentality is for strong men. Women feel it very keenly.
Girls are like Metamorph. If you are good at seduction, she will take the form you want: from a one-night stand to a long-term relationship... it's up to you to decide.
Girls like to need a man but don't like it when a man needs them. She is looking for a dominant male.
Getting angry at biology and genetics makes as much sense as getting angry at gravity. Society doesn't change. Don't punish yourself by complaining.

Part 23

Don't believe the "no fap" purists. For many, including me, cleaning out the rifle increases concentration in seduction.
If she behaves badly (cancels, shows up 30 minutes late), it's okay once but not twice. Put her back in her place, and if it doesn't change, move on.
"Are girls different in Paris or in London?" No. Biology doesn't change. Attraction/seduction is universal.
Apart from a drink or a coffee, don't pay for anything for a girl. You want to be her lover, not her provider.
Never hide your intentions. If you're going to talk to her, it's to fuck her.
How to fail: Complain, be the victim, follow the crowd, procrastinate, live in the past.
A "nice guy" lies more to girls than a seducer who is clear about his intentions.
Seduction is difficult because the girl is your mirror and shows you your flaws directly. But at the same time, what better way to improve?
Don't be a keyboard or phone seducer. Go outside and use these tips.
Be the guy girls cheat on their boyfriends with, not the one who gets cuckolded.

Part 24

I've already slept with a girl an hour after meeting her on the street. It's the most animalistic and exhilarating feeling I've ever had. Pure Darwinism.
The more you talk to her, the less chance you have of fucking her.
Does my height, weight, age, baldness, etc... affect my seduction? "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't—you're right." - H. Ford
Let her do things for you. When a girl cancels a date and suggests another, I often tell her: "Ok, but I'll only accept if you bake me a muffin."
A man without a mission is dead inside.
Typical simp/autisticel: Leans in, speaks softly, breaks the tension, seeks approval, is available, passive, apologizes, friend-zones himself, asexual.
You can't have "all the girls." There are more girls who don't want to sleep with you than girls who do. The goal of seduction is to maximize our chances with the latter.
Seduction on the street/in a bar is like hunting a deer. Satisfying.
Tinder is like reheating a pizza in the microwave. Sad.
Men are naturally attracted to breasts and asses on girls. Women are attracted to the power of the man. The attraction is biological, it's not a choice.
Monogamy is an unnatural attempt to control human reproduction.

Part 25

I'm quite amazed by the guys who approach a girl without a plan or strategy. Play to win.
If men spent half the time they spend watching football, politics, and TV on working on their seduction, their transformation would be rapid.
My advice is like cheat codes. Instead of complaining "this depresses me," use them to your advantage.
"Give me 10 minutes with a girl to make her forget that I'm ugly and I'll sleep with the Queen of France." - Voltaire
Being annoyed or embarrassed by people gives them power over you. Instead, make sure you're entertained by them.
Be the driver, not the passenger.
Cultivate an expression of nonchalance and indifference. Get that stressed-out look off your face.
Some forum members say they are too "nice" to apply my advice. I don't understand. They are neutral and are simply biological truths.
Forget New Year's resolutions or bullshit like that. Improve yourself through daily, repeated habits.
Talking = Feminine. Acting = Masculine.

Part 26

Approaching a girl is difficult. They will be skeptical. You're the one who approached, so it's on you to do the work at the beginning. Own it.
Why does drama work on girls? Give them a dopamine hit and then take that source away. We want what we lack.
If you're a confident narcissist like me, a MAGNIFICENT weapon is the cocky self-disqualification:
- "I'm terrible in bed."
- "I have a micro-penis."
- "I'm a virgin."
Being on a date with a masculine girl is horrible. Same goes for a girl being on a date with a beta guy.
"This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time."
Golden Rules of texting:
- Take one-third longer than her to reply.
- Write texts that are one-third shorter than hers.
- Be one-third less enthusiastic than she is.
If you see a girl with a "choker," the tight necklace around her neck, approach her directly.
The best way to start something is to actually start it and stop talking about it.
Your mothers/friends who told you: "don't worry, you just have to wait and love will come" have been lying to you since you were young.
Creating attraction serves to get the girl to invest in the conversation. Once she's interested, don't overdo it.

Part 27

Look around you. In 100 years, everyone in your city, your country, will be dead. You and I included. Live life to the fullest before you die.
Consistency beats perfection.
The "I'm monogamous but cheat on my girlfriend from time to time" model is harder than the "I see several girls and they know about it" model.
If you're in seduction, it's to sleep with pretty girls. Get over the personal development bullshit excuses.
A "Nice guy" is the male equivalent of a "Gold Digger." Both hide their true intentions.
Don't be ashamed of your desires.
Being a "nice guy" with girls is a strategy that has been proven time and time again to be ineffective.
In your life, have several projects, but not too many. No projects makes you boring and depressed; too many makes you stressed and anxious.
Q: "Why are girls bitchy when I approach them?"
A: "It's completely normal, she's testing your frame."
Personal development gurus: "Open yourself up completely to the girl and CONNECT with her."
If that were true, it would sound like: "Hi, I want to take you doggy style and never call you again."

Part 28

Talking is weak (forums, seminars, conferences); action is the only thing that matters.
Shy girls are always much more accepting of being dominated in bed. Far from being fragile, she screams and asks for more.
"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after." - Thoreau
Looks > Charm/Charisma > Muscles/Money/Status. A female will always prefer NT HTN over an autistic HTN. Be the NT.
I have much more first-date sex with shy girls who talk little than with those who talk loud and laugh a lot.
Action shows who a person is; their words show who they want to become.
You must make the girl qualify herself; do not qualify yourself.
Success is a series of small actions repeated every day.
Uninstall Tinder; there are younger and prettier girls walking around on the street, in shopping malls, etc.
I have many clues at my place that I see several girls (open bottles of wine, hair ties), and this works in my favor; some girls even refer to it.

Part 29

Make her understand that she's not your only target; don't text her for several days. Show her in small ways that you are capable of giving her up.
A date should last between 1 and 2 hours, no more.
Once you've overcome the fear of approaching, buy a dictaphone and record yourself approaching. You'll quickly realize your weak points. I myself have hundreds of hours of audio from approaches and dates with girls on my PC.
"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person who is doing it."
Some of my "students" approach a girl and then eject, telling me: "she gave me a weird look." This is completely normal and you have to get used to it; it's an automatic response to a stranger.
"She looks busy, mean, in a bad mood, etc." Stop speculating. Many girls with their headphones in and a pissed-off look that I've approached started smiling right away.
Girls aged 18-21 are easy to make qualify themselves. Ask her where she has traveled, if she is as cool as she is cute, etc.
For your first 200 approaches, you will get heavily shot down, but that's normal. It's the dark period where you'll have to take the hits to get rid of the fear of approaching.
Familiarity kills sexual tension.

Bryce · 2025-07-17T20:43:57-0500

Mirin this guide tbh

canoli · 2025-07-17T20:44:35-0500

copied this even tho i have a long term gf

canoli · 2025-07-17T20:44:49-0500

inb4 botb

KeepCopingLads · 2025-07-17T20:46:50-0500

good thread but useless for me

ijustwannalookgood · 2025-07-17T20:48:55-0500

Gren said:
Disclaimer before you read:
This guide is half blackpill/half redpill.
Note that everything that is written that involves approaching women
is to be applied only if you're HTN or above,
if you're below that, use at your own risk.
You probably know things about it.
This guide is not exhaustive and does not cover all topics.
It's here to help you better understand women, and how to deal with them.
TRUTH ABOUT WOMEN.
Street/bar seduction is like deer hunting. Satisfying.
Tinder is like reheating pizza in the microwave. Sad.

The best way to progress is still to practice.
Don't expect to see dazzling results after your first five attempts (and if you do, good for you).
Chad: Why are you even there?
Low Chadlite: Try 5.
High HTN: 10.
Mid HTN: 15.
Low HTN: 20.
Below: Sorry this doesn't apply to you.
The "redpill" is a hoax to sell you methods that fail because you're facially inferior.

Coming from a guy who's slept with quite a few, I hope this helps you. Here are some truths that aren't necessarily obvious:
Part 1

Very pretty girls are easier to hit on than girls who are just cute.

"Nice" girls are often more sexually excited than "bad", "unstable" girls due to frustration.

Kissing a girl and getting rejected gives you a better chance of sleeping with her in the long run than not trying anything at all.

Girls aged 18-21 are easier to hit on than those 22+ because they haven't yet been duped by several guys who don't call them back.

The guys who are the worst at seduction/the least attractive have more long-term relationships than the real players.

The more you need a girl, the less attracted she will be to you.

You'll get shot down less if you start heating things up with a girl outside the bedroom (couch, kitchen) than if you start directly on the bed (risk of her saying: "we don't know each other well enough," "this is going too fast," etc.).

She will be more attracted to you if you talk about subjects like sex or if you flirt outrageously with her than if you talk about your travels, passions.

An High Tier Becky gets more serious hits on than a Stacy, because most male believe they are 6/10 and thus deserve 6/10

If she's interested in your relations (e.g., "why are you single," "do you hit on all girls?") it's a dead giveaway that she's attracted. If you just have nice chats, it's the opposite.

The more drama you create and the more she sulks or even cries, the more attracted she will be to you. Ups and down are keys, even if they are artificially created.

A girl doesn't need to like your opinions to sleep with you. Quit sugarcoating your opinions.

The higher your IQ, the lower your "cro-magnon" man skills with girls are, which reduces her attraction to you.

If she knows you're hitting on, texting, or seeing other girls, her attraction to you increases proportionately.

If she calls you an asshole or a bastard, your chances of sleeping with her increase.

The more you study girls sociologically, the scam of feminism, etc., the more your hatred grows and the more your seduction skills weaken.

If you cancel a date at the last minute to reschedule it for another time, her attraction for you increases.

Avoid females who are on therapy; their meds are killing their sexual drive.

Having chemistry or a good connection with a girl makes a one-night stand more difficult.

Not cooking, cleaning, or "scratching your balls" in front of her after sleeping together (not immediately after) increases her attraction to you.

Part 2

Non-verbal language is much more important than what you actually say.

A woman isn't "bad," a "whore," or a "bitch." Her natural biology is more important than her religion, her country's culture, or her status. You can totally fuck a religious, virgin foid.

Push her away playfully, don't try to attract her by complimenting her.

Give her the opportunity to chase you.

Never hide your intentions. You want to be her lover, not her friend.

Seduction is a dance like the one between the fisherman and the fish. You have to maintain the tension on the line while knowing when to reel it in.

Height, muscles, and physique are only secondary in seduction. You are what you think you are. If you think you're short, fat, and ugly, you will be in the eyes of others.

A girl is a mirror. Don't take rejection personally, but draw conclusions from it.

There is an inverse correlation between the amount of time you spend complaining about girls on the internet and the number of girls you sleep with.

If she leads between the two of you before sex (where to sit, where to go, what to do), then you're headed straight for a wall.

Every step in this guide is better if you have at least one side-chick. Get the first one and collect them.

Part 3

By trying to escalate physically too quickly, you risk slowing things down. Calibrate.

The #1 problem men have with women: not hitting on enough of them and hiding their intentions.

Seduction is a secret between you and the girl. She likes it when it's discreet.

The more you talk during a date, the fewer chances you have of sleeping with her.

Charisma is a projection of power and warmth, almost as much as your looks.

Cut drastically everything that is toxic and makes you negative and angry. Whether it's the news, X, or even Looksmax / incels.is (fucking larper) forums.

In seduction, be the man who rolls the dice. Not the die itself.

The more success you have with women, the less you hate feminism.

Success with women, above what your SMV gives you = 90% practice + 10% theory.

Having a smirk on your face while looking at her that says: "I know that you know that I know."

Part 4

The fact that you are the leader with the girl is more important than where you take her.

You must allow the girl to chase you; don't hesitate to disappear from the radar and take a long time to reply to her texts.

The length of your texts must be shorter than hers, and you must take longer to reply than she does. Take your phone, display the conversation with her, and hold it out at arm's length. If your bubbles are bigger than hers, if you send more photos, something is wrong.

Short bubbles = Aggression. Large bubble = Defence. You don't want to be the guy who need to defend himself.

Talk as little as possible via Whatsapp, Snapchat, whatever shit you're using. Obviously this doesn't apply to Tinder, but you get it now; this thread isn't about Tinder.

After meeting a girl, 1 or 2 messages are enough to invite her for a drink. Seduction happens face to face, not in the virtual world.

In seduction, the person who needs the other the least has the power.

Don't think about how girls should change their behavior. Think about the changes YOU need to make to please them.

Act as if you know a naughty secret about her with a smirk on your face; the charm must be implicit. Never forced.

Seduction happens on the street, in bars, in cafes where YOU approach, where YOU accept the invitation she sent when you eyes met. Not behind a computer. Be the one who chooses, not the one who is chosen.

If at any given moment you can afford to abandon a girl (because you have others or act like you do), you have the greatest weapon.

Customers like to buy what they want, not what salespeople push them to buy. She has to feel like she's chasing you.

Part 5

A Stacy is nothing more than a girl you think you can't get. HTN can have Stacies in their beds.

Human nature makes us seek the approval of those with greater value than ours. A girl must qualify herself to you, not you to her.

Don't say half of what you think; be honest with a girl, even if it means being harsh.

Don't say "sorry I'm late" but "thanks for your patience." This may sound like LinkedIn bullshit, but mechanics are very similar.

There will always be a conflict of interest between the seller and the client. The man (casual sex with multiple girls) and the woman (resources and children).

Physical escalation isn't the only important thing. It's the message you send with it (you desire her, she attracts you sexually).

Never talk religion or politics with a girl during a date, NEVER. You can start from the moment you made her cum. Not before.

If the seduction is too easy, the girl is on a lower level than you. Aim for the moon, not the haystack.

You want to know if she's interested or just there to get a free drink and refresh her ego? Escalate physically and observe her response.

Being needy comes from a lack of options and leads to over-investing in a single target, which ruins the girl's attraction for you. Have several arrows in your quiver.

Part 6

If she initiates physical contact, get ready to call an Uber right to your bed. Green light 101.

Men are attracted to young and pretty girls. Girls are attracted to men with power (those who think directly of money or muscles are on the wrong track).

Reading this kind of advice I'm giving you is great, but putting it into practice is much more important.

Be the puzzle the girl wants to solve, not the tissue she wipes her emotions on.

The real reason to hold the door for a girl is to look at her ass.

Don't ask your buddies or female friends (even worse) what works. Get out in the field and test it.

Don't ask a girl how to be successful with them, but rather your buddies who are successful. A fisherman doesn't ask the fish for advice.

Listen to what she DOES. Not what she SAYS.

The real risk with girls is not trying anything. You only have one life.

Part 7

"I don't know what to talk about during a date." It's easy, talk about the subject she loves the most: HER. Her past, her present, her future.

"I'm nervous about asking for her number." It's simple, verbalize your awkwardness: "Here's the awkward moment where we exchange numbers to go for a drink later."

She doesn't reply to your message or cancels/refuses your proposal without offering an alternative? Next.

Don't blame the girls or society. Blame yourself and your seduction skills.

A girl will never put you in the Friendzone if you clarify your intentions. Don't hide your dick.

If "being yourself" was enough, you would already have the sex life you dream of. Don't be someone else, improve yourself and work on your seduction to be the best version of yourself.

"Nice girls" are just "bad girls" who haven't been caught yet.

If she tells you: "I have a boyfriend," reply with a smile: "I don't want to be your boyfriend" and continue.

There is no "perfect moment." Physical escalation on a date is often messy. Lead and do it.

Part 8

Even if you have no idea what you're doing with her, act like you know.

A man cannot and should not be friends with a girl he desires sexually.

She feels what you feel. Don't forget that you have to give if you want to receive.

Three examples of bullshit advice that don't help men progress:

"Be natural"

"Be authentic"

"Be yourself"

If that were the case, you would all have the sex life you dream of (I'm not saying not to be yourselves, but to be the best version of yourselves by working on it).

Don't ask girls questions, give them affirmations. Transform "what do you do for a living?" into "I imagine you work in something creative."

Your job is to lead her to a decision, not to get her to say yes. Become good at spotting the girls who are dead ends.

Being needy is the #1 attraction killer.

Your value isn't just physical or due to money. I know low HTN guys who aren't good-looking or rich who sleep with Stacies.

Effeminate men are desired by masculine girls. Masculine men desire feminine girls. Believing that a feminine man in a girl's eyes is a guy who wears skinny jeans and doesn't lift is wrong.

Being social is not the same as being sexual. If you're just social you'll make the girl laugh but you won't sleep with her. Own your desires.

Part 9

When a girl tests you (e.g., "you're short," "that guy over there is better looking than you," "you're not muscular"), be non-reactive. If you react, you've lost. Instead, agree and amplify. E.g., for "you're short," reply "and you haven't even seen my micro-penis."

Being fixated on a single girl without having slept with her is the biggest obstacle to becoming a good seducer.

What girls say they like and what they actually desire are two completely different things.

When you like or comment on her photos on social media, her attraction and respect for you decrease.

Seducing without looking like you're doing it, that's seduction.

Becoming good will never let you have all the girls, but it will increase your chances.

Girls don't want to win, they want a winner.

A woman's biological instinct is stronger than religion and political or social ideas.

Worst texts to send to a girl:

"How are you?"

"Did you have a good day?"

"What's up?"

Once a girl has put you in the friend zone, getting out of it is very complex and a waste of time, next.

Stop asking her: "How's it going?" or "Are you having fun?" when she's with you. Don't seek her approval.

Becoming good at seduction is like becoming good at guitar. Practice, practice, and practice.

Don't approach a girl while wearing sunglasses.

Don't dream of "Pussy Paradise." It doesn't exist. The country where you'll have the easiest time picking up is the one where you live.

Your physique matters if it's all you have to offer.

Bad seducers and "beta males" like to mock "alpha males" with phrases like:

"A real man settles down with one girl."

"Casual sex is behind me."

In truth, man is not biologically made to be monogamous.

Worst questions to ask a girl you just met:

"What's your name?"

"Where do you live?"

"What do you do for a living?"

Things to avoid to be good at seduction: lack of sleep, negative friends, inaction, fast food, television, isolation, complaining on a forum, and having a victim mentality.

New girls are better than trying to fix the ones where you've already messed up. Next.

Part 10

When you hit on a girl, don't overthink it and appeal to your animal brain.

A girl never puts a guy in the friend zone; it's the guy who puts himself there.

Narcissism is a key to attracting girls.

To increase your success rate, you must double your failure rate.

1 year of approaching girls will give you more social intelligence than 10 years of normal life.

The risks in case of failure are small (rejection, her not responding), while the rewards in case of success are immense (sex, relationship, children).

The "woman of your life" doesn't exist. There are several "women of your life." I myself have already met several.

The most dangerous risk: doing nothing today by telling yourself you'll do it tomorrow.

In the history of humanity, there has never been a time when seduction was easier. Stop complaining.

Personal development is bullshit. It pumps your time into reading theory when you should be practicing.

Part 11

Don't audition to become her little boyfriend; be the judge.

Marriage is the #1 cause of divorce.

The extremely dumb sentence: "I didn't think you were that kind of girl " works.

Stop looking at women as magnificent marble statues and more like an all-you-can-eat buffet.

A girl is neither good nor bad. She adapts to what you want. If you play the ideal son-in-law, she will position herself as a little girlfriend. If you play the bad boy, she will be inclined to play the villain.

Overthinking leads to negative thoughts.

You can't be friends with a girl you find attractive and want to sleep with. Stop friendzoning yourselves.

Don't explain to a girl why she acts a certain way sociologically. It won't make you more interesting.

When men get older, they look like Sean Connery. When women get older, they look like... Sean Connery.

What matters is what you do, not what you say or plan.

Part 12

"Why me?", "Life isn't fair," "it's the genetic lottery," "women are all whores," "there's a Zionist feminist conspiracy." The victim and loser mentality is toxic AND addictive. Get away from it or embrace it, do whatever you want but stop whining about the rules, you don't have the power to change them.

NT behavior is acting the same in front of a Stacy the same way you behave in front of an ugly friend.

Reading these truths without applying them or believing them will lead you to being: frustrated, angry, mean, depressed.

White Knights defend girls against bad boys, but complain when they make love to these bad boys and wonder "why isn't she being a slut with me?". Most incels are white knights in denial.

You are what you think you are.

If you don't work to achieve what you want, you will never have it.

Asking a guy in a long-term relationship for seduction advice is like asking the cashier at McDonald's how to go on a diet.

Be so confident in yourself that it becomes irrational (to get used to it).

If you go out with a girl who is neither younger nor prettier than you, you're on the wrong track.

If you are reactive and easily provoked by a girl, you've lost.

Part 13

Persuasion is not a science but an art.

You don't get what you deserve; you get what you work for.

The banal discussions are indispensable but not sexy. Don't spend your whole date on them.

The best time to make a decision about a girl is right after having sex with her.

Statistically speaking, more than 30% of the girls neurotypical HTN fuckboy slayed had a boyfriend or a fuck buddy.

A girl only needs a few minutes to know if you are a potential lover.

If her bra and panties are the same color, she knew what was going to happen.

A seducer, a poker player, or a trader have in common that they only look at the long-term results.

How you're going to spend the rest of your life is your choice alone.

See sex everywhere, as if women are always in the mood for it. It will greatly improve your seduction.

Part 14

Anonymity is key in seduction: if you're passionate about beautiful girls, it's preferable to live in a city with more than 1 million inhabitants.

A white knight with fantasies of pure girls who always gets friend-zoned will be passively aggressive towards the girls and the men who take their destiny into their own hands. Don't be like that.

A real man is someone who defends women, takes care of them, brings them things, and does good around him. If you think that, you're on the wrong path.

Men aren't looking for a girl to make love to. Many are in need of affection and looking for a mother substitute.

"Casual sex with different girls is pointless," says the jealous guy in a long-term relationship with his girlfriend with whom he has sex once a week.

Always be on with several girls at the same time.

Don't waste your time with "personal development."

"Nice" guys aren't nice. They suppress their instincts, hide their feelings, and deny their fantasies.

The fantasy of purity. Dividing girls into "sluts" or "saints" reveals your glaring lack of experience.

Girls don't want a nice guy. Show them adventure, domination, power, leadership. Being nice makes them "go limp," if I may say so.

Part 15

Men with a lower IQ have fewer problems leading and escalating physically.

Fear leads men to live a boring life.

In seduction, as in Poker, you lose more hands than you win. But when you win, you win big.

The longer you wait to sexualize, the more difficult it will be.

Meeting / Discussion / Gossip = Feminine. Mission / Debate / Action = Masculine.

Making topics to complain about women's behavior makes as much sense as making topics to complain about the behavior of children or puppies.

Seducing a girl who doesn't speak your language is easier if you're good. Silence, sexual tension, ... primitive.

As soon as she sees you as a potential boyfriend, she will put the brakes on sex in no time.

Making a girl laugh doesn't necessarily help with seduction and can have the opposite effect.

Your energy presents you before you even open your mouth.

Part 16

In seduction, you have to be a rational optimist (positive, active, happy) and not a pessimist (victim mentality, complaining about society, angry, depressed).

The longer the date, the less chance you have of sleeping with her.

"Sorry," "Excuse me," are words to banish from your vocabulary.

When it comes to making a decision, it's not the one who is right who wins, but the one with the most conviction.

Being a beautiful 18-year-old girl is like suddenly getting 1 million dollars and having to invest it wisely before it disappears in 10 years.

If you do what everyone else does, then you're doing it wrong.

Sexual tension is not comfortable, but don't break it; embrace the awkwardness it provokes.

The things you don't want to hear on a date:

"Wow, your stories are interesting."

"Haha, you're funny."

"Ah, you're a really nice guy."

Audacity makes even the smallest of animals dangerous.

Provoking drama earns you a ton of attraction: silence, jealousy, challenging, pretending to leave. Bad boy 101.

Part 17

Girls like to sleep with married men because they prefer non-needy, no-strings-attached sex over a guy who will become too clingy.

One is too close to 0. Always have options with several girls to avoid being needy.

Tinder is a very good thing for real seducers. The more guys hiding behind their screens, the easier and more appreciated seduction in real life becomes for women.

Self-sufficiency is the greatest of riches.

The perfect accusation for a girl: calling her "little one." Little princess, little bitch. They like to feel small.

When a girl has an overly princessy behavior, don't hesitate to yell at her. Very recently, a Russian girl arrived 30 minutes late for a date. I gave her a piece of my mind and asked her to apologize. That's all she was waiting for. We ended up at my place.

"Those who look hungry will never be fed." Too eager, too many texts, texts longer than hers, getting emotional, putting the girl on a pedestal ("she's different from the others"), these are the sins of the future friend-zoned.

When guys feel a 'connection' with a girl and say 'she's not like the others,' they let their guard down, lose control, and lose.

Worst texts to send:

"Hey, how's it going?"

"Are you free at what time?"

"Do you want to go for a drink?"

No pretty girl is ever completely single. Get over it, accept it.

Part 18

Creating a silence, whether during a conversation or by text, allows you to evaluate her interest by seeing if she re-engages.

Walk down the street with your shoulders back, chin up, taking up space.

The best moment to kiss her is when she's talking.

A large part of her attraction to you is built when you're not there. The longer she's there, sitting, thinking about you, the better.

Use ironic phrases: "I would make a very bad boyfriend." "I'm lazy, I need a woman who does the cooking."

Women love men who represent a challenge. Once you are no longer one, she will gradually get bored.

When she talks about her ex, saying: "I left him because he was this, that," that's exactly how you should be.

When you start seduction, force yourself to break monotonous discussions.

A good text: "I'm thirsty, let's go for a drink tomorrow night. And don't forget to wear something sexy for me "
A bad text: "Hey, what's up? Free for a drink tomorrow? 8 pm?"

Women, like children and puppies, are in the moment. Their emotions dictate their behavior, and it can change very quickly. Make her feel, not think.

Part 19

When you say "this one is different," you're wrong. She's not, it's the situation that is. The biology of women remains the same.

Every time she says goodbye, she should wonder if she'll see you again, if you like her, and if you're seeing other girls.

Seduction leads to several options. Several options lead to several choices. Several choices lead to freedom.

Don't wait for her to be ready for physical escalation. She will be ready when you escalate.

A "Beta" male is always ready to hang out with girls.

Shy and innocent girls (the good girls) are the ones with the most sexual desire.

What girls say they want is often the exact opposite of what they really want.

When you become good at seduction, social discussions become unbearable (what do you do for a living, where are you from, etc.).

People who say that in seduction you just have to be yourself and not learn anything will never sleep with a lot of girls.

Pretty girls will never know if they are really interesting or not.

Part 20

Never qualify yourself when a girl tests you. Play on offense, not defense.

A girl will often ask you the same questions to test you; you should have answers for the most frequent ones.

Quickly move past the boring chit-chat (what do you do for a living, etc.) and escalate verbally and physically.

The cost of a monogamous relationship/keeping the same girl for too long: Stagnation, pushes you to find excuses, makes you physically and mentally soft.
Seduction is a sport with direct feedback from the girl. Talking about seduction on a forum won't make you progress much.

Don't be desperate to plan the next date. Let her wonder if she'll see you again.

Making her angry is always better than making her feel nothing. Be her emotion dealer.

Humans are not made for monogamy. Rather than raging against it, use it to your advantage.

Don't try to make her comfortable. Silences, physical escalation, strong emotions... the tension is very seductive, don't break it.

Part 21

Tinder is not seduction because it's the girls who choose you. Be the one who chooses instead.

Seducing a beautiful 18-21 year old girl is like driving a Formula 1 car in the rain.

The number of arrows in your quiver is directly proportional to your level of neediness.

If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough.

The fact that women have lovers and "providers" only pisses off the providers.

Biology > Ideology.

Keep your dominant male frame and the girl in front of you will accept being dominated without batting an eye.

Embrace her tests. It's a good sign. She's checking if you are dominant enough to let her take control from you.

Women fall in love with what you are, only to then try to make you become what you are not. They are attracted to the lover and disgusted by the provider.

In the very beginning, it's up to you to work to attract the girl. She won't fall under your charm in 5 seconds.

Part 22

When you propose a date to a girl and she says she can't, without suggesting another date, it's dead, move on.
Ex: "Sorry I can't on Monday. Thursday?" -> Good. "Sorry I can't on Monday." -> Bad.

Beta male: monogamous couple -> Bank loan -> Tertiary job.
Alpha male: Several girls -> His own boss -> Free.

Question from the jean-virgins: "Isn't it boring to sleep with lots of girls with no strings attached?"
Alpha's answer: "Less than staying in a long-term relationship and for at least 2 years sleeping once a week with the same girl."

The excuses of jean-virgins for not working on their seduction: "That only works with good-looking guys / That only works with easy girls / It's not natural." I'm not particularly good-looking and I've slept with neurologists, doctors, lawyers, etc. Never a hairdresser or a cashier, though.

If you've made it this far on this topic, you have enough to start working on your seduction.

Create more content than you consume.

A victim mentality is for weak men. A positive and proactive mentality is for strong men. Women feel it very keenly.

Girls are like Metamorph. If you are good at seduction, she will take the form you want: from a one-night stand to a long-term relationship... it's up to you to decide.

Girls like to need a man but don't like it when a man needs them. She is looking for a dominant male.

Getting angry at biology and genetics makes as much sense as getting angry at gravity. Society doesn't change. Don't punish yourself by complaining.

Part 23

Don't believe the "no fap" purists. For many, including me, cleaning out the rifle increases concentration in seduction.

If she behaves badly (cancels, shows up 30 minutes late), it's okay once but not twice. Put her back in her place, and if it doesn't change, move on.

"Are girls different in Paris or in London?" No. Biology doesn't change. Attraction/seduction is universal.

Apart from a drink or a coffee, don't pay for anything for a girl. You want to be her lover, not her provider.

Never hide your intentions. If you're going to talk to her, it's to fuck her.

How to fail: Complain, be the victim, follow the crowd, procrastinate, live in the past.

A "nice guy" lies more to girls than a seducer who is clear about his intentions.

Seduction is difficult because the girl is your mirror and shows you your flaws directly. But at the same time, what better way to improve?

Don't be a keyboard or phone seducer. Go outside and use these tips.

Be the guy girls cheat on their boyfriends with, not the one who gets cuckolded.

Part 24

I've already slept with a girl an hour after meeting her on the street. It's the most animalistic and exhilarating feeling I've ever had. Pure Darwinism.

The more you talk to her, the less chance you have of fucking her.

Does my height, weight, age, baldness, etc... affect my seduction? "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't—you're right." - H. Ford

Let her do things for you. When a girl cancels a date and suggests another, I often tell her: "Ok, but I'll only accept if you bake me a muffin."

A man without a mission is dead inside.

Typical simp/autisticel: Leans in, speaks softly, breaks the tension, seeks approval, is available, passive, apologizes, friend-zones himself, asexual.

You can't have "all the girls." There are more girls who don't want to sleep with you than girls who do. The goal of seduction is to maximize our chances with the latter.

Seduction on the street/in a bar is like hunting a deer. Satisfying.
Tinder is like reheating a pizza in the microwave. Sad.

Men are naturally attracted to breasts and asses on girls. Women are attracted to the power of the man. The attraction is biological, it's not a choice.

Monogamy is an unnatural attempt to control human reproduction.

Part 25

I'm quite amazed by the guys who approach a girl without a plan or strategy. Play to win.

If men spent half the time they spend watching football, politics, and TV on working on their seduction, their transformation would be rapid.

My advice is like cheat codes. Instead of complaining "this depresses me," use them to your advantage.

"Give me 10 minutes with a girl to make her forget that I'm ugly and I'll sleep with the Queen of France." - Voltaire

Being annoyed or embarrassed by people gives them power over you. Instead, make sure you're entertained by them.

Be the driver, not the passenger.

Cultivate an expression of nonchalance and indifference. Get that stressed-out look off your face.

Some forum members say they are too "nice" to apply my advice. I don't understand. They are neutral and are simply biological truths.

Forget New Year's resolutions or bullshit like that. Improve yourself through daily, repeated habits.

Talking = Feminine. Acting = Masculine.

Part 26

Approaching a girl is difficult. They will be skeptical. You're the one who approached, so it's on you to do the work at the beginning. Own it.

Why does drama work on girls? Give them a dopamine hit and then take that source away. We want what we lack.

If you're a confident narcissist like me, a MAGNIFICENT weapon is the cocky self-disqualification:

"I'm terrible in bed."

"I have a micro-penis."

"I'm a virgin."

Being on a date with a masculine girl is horrible. Same goes for a girl being on a date with a beta guy.

"This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time."

Golden Rules of texting:

Take one-third longer than her to reply.

Write texts that are one-third shorter than hers.

Be one-third less enthusiastic than she is.

If you see a girl with a "choker," the tight necklace around her neck, approach her directly.

The best way to start something is to actually start it and stop talking about it.

Your mothers/friends who told you: "don't worry, you just have to wait and love will come" have been lying to you since you were young.

Creating attraction serves to get the girl to invest in the conversation. Once she's interested, don't overdo it.

Part 27

Look around you. In 100 years, everyone in your city, your country, will be dead. You and I included. Live life to the fullest before you die.

Consistency beats perfection.

The "I'm monogamous but cheat on my girlfriend from time to time" model is harder than the "I see several girls and they know about it" model.

If you're in seduction, it's to sleep with pretty girls. Get over the personal development bullshit excuses.

A "Nice guy" is the male equivalent of a "Gold Digger." Both hide their true intentions.

Don't be ashamed of your desires.

Being a "nice guy" with girls is a strategy that has been proven time and time again to be ineffective.

In your life, have several projects, but not too many. No projects makes you boring and depressed; too many makes you stressed and anxious.

Q: "Why are girls bitchy when I approach them?"
A: "It's completely normal, she's testing your frame."

Personal development gurus: "Open yourself up completely to the girl and CONNECT with her."
If that were true, it would sound like: "Hi, I want to take you doggy style and never call you again."

Part 28

Talking is weak (forums, seminars, conferences); action is the only thing that matters.

Shy girls are always much more accepting of being dominated in bed. Far from being fragile, she screams and asks for more.

"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after." - Thoreau

Looks > Charm/Charisma > Muscles/Money/Status. A female will always prefer NT HTN over an autistic HTN. Be the NT.

I have much more first-date sex with shy girls who talk little than with those who talk loud and laugh a lot.

Action shows who a person is; their words show who they want to become.

You must make the girl qualify herself; do not qualify yourself.

Success is a series of small actions repeated every day.

Uninstall Tinder; there are younger and prettier girls walking around on the street, in shopping malls, etc.

I have many clues at my place that I see several girls (open bottles of wine, hair ties), and this works in my favor; some girls even refer to it.

Part 29

Make her understand that she's not your only target; don't text her for several days. Show her in small ways that you are capable of giving her up.

A date should last between 1 and 2 hours, no more.

Once you've overcome the fear of approaching, buy a dictaphone and record yourself approaching. You'll quickly realize your weak points. I myself have hundreds of hours of audio from approaches and dates with girls on my PC.

"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person who is doing it."

Some of my "students" approach a girl and then eject, telling me: "she gave me a weird look." This is completely normal and you have to get used to it; it's an automatic response to a stranger.

"She looks busy, mean, in a bad mood, etc." Stop speculating. Many girls with their headphones in and a pissed-off look that I've approached started smiling right away.

Girls aged 18-21 are easy to make qualify themselves. Ask her where she has traveled, if she is as cool as she is cute, etc.

For your first 200 approaches, you will get heavily shot down, but that's normal. It's the dark period where you'll have to take the hits to get rid of the fear of approaching.

Familiarity kills sexual tension.

holy high qual post

canoli · 2025-07-17T20:52:05-0500

@Gren too many words but u talk about not telling the girls "hows ur day"

what do u recommedn instead

griffithmaxer · 2025-07-17T21:48:55-0500

Gren said:
Disclaimer before you read:
This guide is half blackpill/half redpill.
Note that everything that is written that involves approaching women
is to be applied only if you're HTN or above,
if you're below that, use at your own risk.
You probably know things about it.
This guide is not exhaustive and does not cover all topics.
It's here to help you better understand women, and how to deal with them.
TRUTH ABOUT WOMEN.
Street/bar seduction is like deer hunting. Satisfying.
Tinder is like reheating pizza in the microwave. Sad.

The best way to progress is still to practice.
Don't expect to see dazzling results after your first five attempts (and if you do, good for you).
Chad: Why are you even there?
Low Chadlite: Try 5.
High HTN: 10.
Mid HTN: 15.
Low HTN: 20.
Below: Sorry this doesn't apply to you.
The "redpill" is a hoax to sell you methods that fail because you're facially inferior.

Coming from a guy who's slept with quite a few, I hope this helps you. Here are some truths that aren't necessarily obvious:
Part 1

Very pretty girls are easier to hit on than girls who are just cute.

"Nice" girls are often more sexually excited than "bad", "unstable" girls due to frustration.

Kissing a girl and getting rejected gives you a better chance of sleeping with her in the long run than not trying anything at all.

Girls aged 18-21 are easier to hit on than those 22+ because they haven't yet been duped by several guys who don't call them back.

The guys who are the worst at seduction/the least attractive have more long-term relationships than the real players.

The more you need a girl, the less attracted she will be to you.

You'll get shot down less if you start heating things up with a girl outside the bedroom (couch, kitchen) than if you start directly on the bed (risk of her saying: "we don't know each other well enough," "this is going too fast," etc.).

She will be more attracted to you if you talk about subjects like sex or if you flirt outrageously with her than if you talk about your travels, passions.

An High Tier Becky gets more serious hits on than a Stacy, because most male believe they are 6/10 and thus deserve 6/10

If she's interested in your relations (e.g., "why are you single," "do you hit on all girls?") it's a dead giveaway that she's attracted. If you just have nice chats, it's the opposite.

The more drama you create and the more she sulks or even cries, the more attracted she will be to you. Ups and down are keys, even if they are artificially created.

A girl doesn't need to like your opinions to sleep with you. Quit sugarcoating your opinions.

The higher your IQ, the lower your "cro-magnon" man skills with girls are, which reduces her attraction to you.

If she knows you're hitting on, texting, or seeing other girls, her attraction to you increases proportionately.

If she calls you an asshole or a bastard, your chances of sleeping with her increase.

The more you study girls sociologically, the scam of feminism, etc., the more your hatred grows and the more your seduction skills weaken.

If you cancel a date at the last minute to reschedule it for another time, her attraction for you increases.

Avoid females who are on therapy; their meds are killing their sexual drive.

Having chemistry or a good connection with a girl makes a one-night stand more difficult.

Not cooking, cleaning, or "scratching your balls" in front of her after sleeping together (not immediately after) increases her attraction to you.

Part 2

Non-verbal language is much more important than what you actually say.

A woman isn't "bad," a "whore," or a "bitch." Her natural biology is more important than her religion, her country's culture, or her status. You can totally fuck a religious, virgin foid.

Push her away playfully, don't try to attract her by complimenting her.

Give her the opportunity to chase you.

Never hide your intentions. You want to be her lover, not her friend.

Seduction is a dance like the one between the fisherman and the fish. You have to maintain the tension on the line while knowing when to reel it in.

Height, muscles, and physique are only secondary in seduction. You are what you think you are. If you think you're short, fat, and ugly, you will be in the eyes of others.

A girl is a mirror. Don't take rejection personally, but draw conclusions from it.

There is an inverse correlation between the amount of time you spend complaining about girls on the internet and the number of girls you sleep with.

If she leads between the two of you before sex (where to sit, where to go, what to do), then you're headed straight for a wall.

Every step in this guide is better if you have at least one side-chick. Get the first one and collect them.

Part 3

By trying to escalate physically too quickly, you risk slowing things down. Calibrate.

The #1 problem men have with women: not hitting on enough of them and hiding their intentions.

Seduction is a secret between you and the girl. She likes it when it's discreet.

The more you talk during a date, the fewer chances you have of sleeping with her.

Charisma is a projection of power and warmth, almost as much as your looks.

Cut drastically everything that is toxic and makes you negative and angry. Whether it's the news, X, or even Looksmax / incels.is (fucking larper) forums.

In seduction, be the man who rolls the dice. Not the die itself.

The more success you have with women, the less you hate feminism.

Success with women, above what your SMV gives you = 90% practice + 10% theory.

Having a smirk on your face while looking at her that says: "I know that you know that I know."

Part 4

The fact that you are the leader with the girl is more important than where you take her.

You must allow the girl to chase you; don't hesitate to disappear from the radar and take a long time to reply to her texts.

The length of your texts must be shorter than hers, and you must take longer to reply than she does. Take your phone, display the conversation with her, and hold it out at arm's length. If your bubbles are bigger than hers, if you send more photos, something is wrong.

Short bubbles = Aggression. Large bubble = Defence. You don't want to be the guy who need to defend himself.

Talk as little as possible via Whatsapp, Snapchat, whatever shit you're using. Obviously this doesn't apply to Tinder, but you get it now; this thread isn't about Tinder.

After meeting a girl, 1 or 2 messages are enough to invite her for a drink. Seduction happens face to face, not in the virtual world.

In seduction, the person who needs the other the least has the power.

Don't think about how girls should change their behavior. Think about the changes YOU need to make to please them.

Act as if you know a naughty secret about her with a smirk on your face; the charm must be implicit. Never forced.

Seduction happens on the street, in bars, in cafes where YOU approach, where YOU accept the invitation she sent when you eyes met. Not behind a computer. Be the one who chooses, not the one who is chosen.

If at any given moment you can afford to abandon a girl (because you have others or act like you do), you have the greatest weapon.

Customers like to buy what they want, not what salespeople push them to buy. She has to feel like she's chasing you.

Part 5

A Stacy is nothing more than a girl you think you can't get. HTN can have Stacies in their beds.

Human nature makes us seek the approval of those with greater value than ours. A girl must qualify herself to you, not you to her.

Don't say half of what you think; be honest with a girl, even if it means being harsh.

Don't say "sorry I'm late" but "thanks for your patience." This may sound like LinkedIn bullshit, but mechanics are very similar.

There will always be a conflict of interest between the seller and the client. The man (casual sex with multiple girls) and the woman (resources and children).

Physical escalation isn't the only important thing. It's the message you send with it (you desire her, she attracts you sexually).

Never talk religion or politics with a girl during a date, NEVER. You can start from the moment you made her cum. Not before.

If the seduction is too easy, the girl is on a lower level than you. Aim for the moon, not the haystack.

You want to know if she's interested or just there to get a free drink and refresh her ego? Escalate physically and observe her response.

Being needy comes from a lack of options and leads to over-investing in a single target, which ruins the girl's attraction for you. Have several arrows in your quiver.

Part 6

If she initiates physical contact, get ready to call an Uber right to your bed. Green light 101.

Men are attracted to young and pretty girls. Girls are attracted to men with power (those who think directly of money or muscles are on the wrong track).

Reading this kind of advice I'm giving you is great, but putting it into practice is much more important.

Be the puzzle the girl wants to solve, not the tissue she wipes her emotions on.

The real reason to hold the door for a girl is to look at her ass.

Don't ask your buddies or female friends (even worse) what works. Get out in the field and test it.

Don't ask a girl how to be successful with them, but rather your buddies who are successful. A fisherman doesn't ask the fish for advice.

Listen to what she DOES. Not what she SAYS.

The real risk with girls is not trying anything. You only have one life.

Part 7

"I don't know what to talk about during a date." It's easy, talk about the subject she loves the most: HER. Her past, her present, her future.

"I'm nervous about asking for her number." It's simple, verbalize your awkwardness: "Here's the awkward moment where we exchange numbers to go for a drink later."

She doesn't reply to your message or cancels/refuses your proposal without offering an alternative? Next.

Don't blame the girls or society. Blame yourself and your seduction skills.

A girl will never put you in the Friendzone if you clarify your intentions. Don't hide your dick.

If "being yourself" was enough, you would already have the sex life you dream of. Don't be someone else, improve yourself and work on your seduction to be the best version of yourself.

"Nice girls" are just "bad girls" who haven't been caught yet.

If she tells you: "I have a boyfriend," reply with a smile: "I don't want to be your boyfriend" and continue.

There is no "perfect moment." Physical escalation on a date is often messy. Lead and do it.

Part 8

Even if you have no idea what you're doing with her, act like you know.

A man cannot and should not be friends with a girl he desires sexually.

She feels what you feel. Don't forget that you have to give if you want to receive.

Three examples of bullshit advice that don't help men progress:

"Be natural"

"Be authentic"

"Be yourself"

If that were the case, you would all have the sex life you dream of (I'm not saying not to be yourselves, but to be the best version of yourselves by working on it).

Don't ask girls questions, give them affirmations. Transform "what do you do for a living?" into "I imagine you work in something creative."

Your job is to lead her to a decision, not to get her to say yes. Become good at spotting the girls who are dead ends.

Being needy is the #1 attraction killer.

Your value isn't just physical or due to money. I know low HTN guys who aren't good-looking or rich who sleep with Stacies.

Effeminate men are desired by masculine girls. Masculine men desire feminine girls. Believing that a feminine man in a girl's eyes is a guy who wears skinny jeans and doesn't lift is wrong.

Being social is not the same as being sexual. If you're just social you'll make the girl laugh but you won't sleep with her. Own your desires.

Part 9

When a girl tests you (e.g., "you're short," "that guy over there is better looking than you," "you're not muscular"), be non-reactive. If you react, you've lost. Instead, agree and amplify. E.g., for "you're short," reply "and you haven't even seen my micro-penis."

Being fixated on a single girl without having slept with her is the biggest obstacle to becoming a good seducer.

What girls say they like and what they actually desire are two completely different things.

When you like or comment on her photos on social media, her attraction and respect for you decrease.

Seducing without looking like you're doing it, that's seduction.

Becoming good will never let you have all the girls, but it will increase your chances.

Girls don't want to win, they want a winner.

A woman's biological instinct is stronger than religion and political or social ideas.

Worst texts to send to a girl:

"How are you?"

"Did you have a good day?"

"What's up?"

Once a girl has put you in the friend zone, getting out of it is very complex and a waste of time, next.

Stop asking her: "How's it going?" or "Are you having fun?" when she's with you. Don't seek her approval.

Becoming good at seduction is like becoming good at guitar. Practice, practice, and practice.

Don't approach a girl while wearing sunglasses.

Don't dream of "Pussy Paradise." It doesn't exist. The country where you'll have the easiest time picking up is the one where you live.

Your physique matters if it's all you have to offer.

Bad seducers and "beta males" like to mock "alpha males" with phrases like:

"A real man settles down with one girl."

"Casual sex is behind me."

In truth, man is not biologically made to be monogamous.

Worst questions to ask a girl you just met:

"What's your name?"

"Where do you live?"

"What do you do for a living?"

Things to avoid to be good at seduction: lack of sleep, negative friends, inaction, fast food, television, isolation, complaining on a forum, and having a victim mentality.

New girls are better than trying to fix the ones where you've already messed up. Next.

Part 10

When you hit on a girl, don't overthink it and appeal to your animal brain.

A girl never puts a guy in the friend zone; it's the guy who puts himself there.

Narcissism is a key to attracting girls.

To increase your success rate, you must double your failure rate.

1 year of approaching girls will give you more social intelligence than 10 years of normal life.

The risks in case of failure are small (rejection, her not responding), while the rewards in case of success are immense (sex, relationship, children).

The "woman of your life" doesn't exist. There are several "women of your life." I myself have already met several.

The most dangerous risk: doing nothing today by telling yourself you'll do it tomorrow.

In the history of humanity, there has never been a time when seduction was easier. Stop complaining.

Personal development is bullshit. It pumps your time into reading theory when you should be practicing.

Part 11

Don't audition to become her little boyfriend; be the judge.

Marriage is the #1 cause of divorce.

The extremely dumb sentence: "I didn't think you were that kind of girl " works.

Stop looking at women as magnificent marble statues and more like an all-you-can-eat buffet.

A girl is neither good nor bad. She adapts to what you want. If you play the ideal son-in-law, she will position herself as a little girlfriend. If you play the bad boy, she will be inclined to play the villain.

Overthinking leads to negative thoughts.

You can't be friends with a girl you find attractive and want to sleep with. Stop friendzoning yourselves.

Don't explain to a girl why she acts a certain way sociologically. It won't make you more interesting.

When men get older, they look like Sean Connery. When women get older, they look like... Sean Connery.

What matters is what you do, not what you say or plan.

Part 12

"Why me?", "Life isn't fair," "it's the genetic lottery," "women are all whores," "there's a Zionist feminist conspiracy." The victim and loser mentality is toxic AND addictive. Get away from it or embrace it, do whatever you want but stop whining about the rules, you don't have the power to change them.

NT behavior is acting the same in front of a Stacy the same way you behave in front of an ugly friend.

Reading these truths without applying them or believing them will lead you to being: frustrated, angry, mean, depressed.

White Knights defend girls against bad boys, but complain when they make love to these bad boys and wonder "why isn't she being a slut with me?". Most incels are white knights in denial.

You are what you think you are.

If you don't work to achieve what you want, you will never have it.

Asking a guy in a long-term relationship for seduction advice is like asking the cashier at McDonald's how to go on a diet.

Be so confident in yourself that it becomes irrational (to get used to it).

If you go out with a girl who is neither younger nor prettier than you, you're on the wrong track.

If you are reactive and easily provoked by a girl, you've lost.

Part 13

Persuasion is not a science but an art.

You don't get what you deserve; you get what you work for.

The banal discussions are indispensable but not sexy. Don't spend your whole date on them.

The best time to make a decision about a girl is right after having sex with her.

Statistically speaking, more than 30% of the girls neurotypical HTN fuckboy slayed had a boyfriend or a fuck buddy.

A girl only needs a few minutes to know if you are a potential lover.

If her bra and panties are the same color, she knew what was going to happen.

A seducer, a poker player, or a trader have in common that they only look at the long-term results.

How you're going to spend the rest of your life is your choice alone.

See sex everywhere, as if women are always in the mood for it. It will greatly improve your seduction.

Part 14

Anonymity is key in seduction: if you're passionate about beautiful girls, it's preferable to live in a city with more than 1 million inhabitants.

A white knight with fantasies of pure girls who always gets friend-zoned will be passively aggressive towards the girls and the men who take their destiny into their own hands. Don't be like that.

A real man is someone who defends women, takes care of them, brings them things, and does good around him. If you think that, you're on the wrong path.

Men aren't looking for a girl to make love to. Many are in need of affection and looking for a mother substitute.

"Casual sex with different girls is pointless," says the jealous guy in a long-term relationship with his girlfriend with whom he has sex once a week.

Always be on with several girls at the same time.

Don't waste your time with "personal development."

"Nice" guys aren't nice. They suppress their instincts, hide their feelings, and deny their fantasies.

The fantasy of purity. Dividing girls into "sluts" or "saints" reveals your glaring lack of experience.

Girls don't want a nice guy. Show them adventure, domination, power, leadership. Being nice makes them "go limp," if I may say so.

Part 15

Men with a lower IQ have fewer problems leading and escalating physically.

Fear leads men to live a boring life.

In seduction, as in Poker, you lose more hands than you win. But when you win, you win big.

The longer you wait to sexualize, the more difficult it will be.

Meeting / Discussion / Gossip = Feminine. Mission / Debate / Action = Masculine.

Making topics to complain about women's behavior makes as much sense as making topics to complain about the behavior of children or puppies.

Seducing a girl who doesn't speak your language is easier if you're good. Silence, sexual tension, ... primitive.

As soon as she sees you as a potential boyfriend, she will put the brakes on sex in no time.

Making a girl laugh doesn't necessarily help with seduction and can have the opposite effect.

Your energy presents you before you even open your mouth.

Part 16

In seduction, you have to be a rational optimist (positive, active, happy) and not a pessimist (victim mentality, complaining about society, angry, depressed).

The longer the date, the less chance you have of sleeping with her.

"Sorry," "Excuse me," are words to banish from your vocabulary.

When it comes to making a decision, it's not the one who is right who wins, but the one with the most conviction.

Being a beautiful 18-year-old girl is like suddenly getting 1 million dollars and having to invest it wisely before it disappears in 10 years.

If you do what everyone else does, then you're doing it wrong.

Sexual tension is not comfortable, but don't break it; embrace the awkwardness it provokes.

The things you don't want to hear on a date:

"Wow, your stories are interesting."

"Haha, you're funny."

"Ah, you're a really nice guy."

Audacity makes even the smallest of animals dangerous.

Provoking drama earns you a ton of attraction: silence, jealousy, challenging, pretending to leave. Bad boy 101.

Part 17

Girls like to sleep with married men because they prefer non-needy, no-strings-attached sex over a guy who will become too clingy.

One is too close to 0. Always have options with several girls to avoid being needy.

Tinder is a very good thing for real seducers. The more guys hiding behind their screens, the easier and more appreciated seduction in real life becomes for women.

Self-sufficiency is the greatest of riches.

The perfect accusation for a girl: calling her "little one." Little princess, little bitch. They like to feel small.

When a girl has an overly princessy behavior, don't hesitate to yell at her. Very recently, a Russian girl arrived 30 minutes late for a date. I gave her a piece of my mind and asked her to apologize. That's all she was waiting for. We ended up at my place.

"Those who look hungry will never be fed." Too eager, too many texts, texts longer than hers, getting emotional, putting the girl on a pedestal ("she's different from the others"), these are the sins of the future friend-zoned.

When guys feel a 'connection' with a girl and say 'she's not like the others,' they let their guard down, lose control, and lose.

Worst texts to send:

"Hey, how's it going?"

"Are you free at what time?"

"Do you want to go for a drink?"

No pretty girl is ever completely single. Get over it, accept it.

Part 18

Creating a silence, whether during a conversation or by text, allows you to evaluate her interest by seeing if she re-engages.

Walk down the street with your shoulders back, chin up, taking up space.

The best moment to kiss her is when she's talking.

A large part of her attraction to you is built when you're not there. The longer she's there, sitting, thinking about you, the better.

Use ironic phrases: "I would make a very bad boyfriend." "I'm lazy, I need a woman who does the cooking."

Women love men who represent a challenge. Once you are no longer one, she will gradually get bored.

When she talks about her ex, saying: "I left him because he was this, that," that's exactly how you should be.

When you start seduction, force yourself to break monotonous discussions.

A good text: "I'm thirsty, let's go for a drink tomorrow night. And don't forget to wear something sexy for me "
A bad text: "Hey, what's up? Free for a drink tomorrow? 8 pm?"

Women, like children and puppies, are in the moment. Their emotions dictate their behavior, and it can change very quickly. Make her feel, not think.

Part 19

When you say "this one is different," you're wrong. She's not, it's the situation that is. The biology of women remains the same.

Every time she says goodbye, she should wonder if she'll see you again, if you like her, and if you're seeing other girls.

Seduction leads to several options. Several options lead to several choices. Several choices lead to freedom.

Don't wait for her to be ready for physical escalation. She will be ready when you escalate.

A "Beta" male is always ready to hang out with girls.

Shy and innocent girls (the good girls) are the ones with the most sexual desire.

What girls say they want is often the exact opposite of what they really want.

When you become good at seduction, social discussions become unbearable (what do you do for a living, where are you from, etc.).

People who say that in seduction you just have to be yourself and not learn anything will never sleep with a lot of girls.

Pretty girls will never know if they are really interesting or not.

Part 20

Never qualify yourself when a girl tests you. Play on offense, not defense.

A girl will often ask you the same questions to test you; you should have answers for the most frequent ones.

Quickly move past the boring chit-chat (what do you do for a living, etc.) and escalate verbally and physically.

The cost of a monogamous relationship/keeping the same girl for too long: Stagnation, pushes you to find excuses, makes you physically and mentally soft.
Seduction is a sport with direct feedback from the girl. Talking about seduction on a forum won't make you progress much.

Don't be desperate to plan the next date. Let her wonder if she'll see you again.

Making her angry is always better than making her feel nothing. Be her emotion dealer.

Humans are not made for monogamy. Rather than raging against it, use it to your advantage.

Don't try to make her comfortable. Silences, physical escalation, strong emotions... the tension is very seductive, don't break it.

Part 21

Tinder is not seduction because it's the girls who choose you. Be the one who chooses instead.

Seducing a beautiful 18-21 year old girl is like driving a Formula 1 car in the rain.

The number of arrows in your quiver is directly proportional to your level of neediness.

If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough.

The fact that women have lovers and "providers" only pisses off the providers.

Biology > Ideology.

Keep your dominant male frame and the girl in front of you will accept being dominated without batting an eye.

Embrace her tests. It's a good sign. She's checking if you are dominant enough to let her take control from you.

Women fall in love with what you are, only to then try to make you become what you are not. They are attracted to the lover and disgusted by the provider.

In the very beginning, it's up to you to work to attract the girl. She won't fall under your charm in 5 seconds.

Part 22

When you propose a date to a girl and she says she can't, without suggesting another date, it's dead, move on.
Ex: "Sorry I can't on Monday. Thursday?" -> Good. "Sorry I can't on Monday." -> Bad.

Beta male: monogamous couple -> Bank loan -> Tertiary job.
Alpha male: Several girls -> His own boss -> Free.

Question from the jean-virgins: "Isn't it boring to sleep with lots of girls with no strings attached?"
Alpha's answer: "Less than staying in a long-term relationship and for at least 2 years sleeping once a week with the same girl."

The excuses of jean-virgins for not working on their seduction: "That only works with good-looking guys / That only works with easy girls / It's not natural." I'm not particularly good-looking and I've slept with neurologists, doctors, lawyers, etc. Never a hairdresser or a cashier, though.

If you've made it this far on this topic, you have enough to start working on your seduction.

Create more content than you consume.

A victim mentality is for weak men. A positive and proactive mentality is for strong men. Women feel it very keenly.

Girls are like Metamorph. If you are good at seduction, she will take the form you want: from a one-night stand to a long-term relationship... it's up to you to decide.

Girls like to need a man but don't like it when a man needs them. She is looking for a dominant male.

Getting angry at biology and genetics makes as much sense as getting angry at gravity. Society doesn't change. Don't punish yourself by complaining.

Part 23

Don't believe the "no fap" purists. For many, including me, cleaning out the rifle increases concentration in seduction.

If she behaves badly (cancels, shows up 30 minutes late), it's okay once but not twice. Put her back in her place, and if it doesn't change, move on.

"Are girls different in Paris or in London?" No. Biology doesn't change. Attraction/seduction is universal.

Apart from a drink or a coffee, don't pay for anything for a girl. You want to be her lover, not her provider.

Never hide your intentions. If you're going to talk to her, it's to fuck her.

How to fail: Complain, be the victim, follow the crowd, procrastinate, live in the past.

A "nice guy" lies more to girls than a seducer who is clear about his intentions.

Seduction is difficult because the girl is your mirror and shows you your flaws directly. But at the same time, what better way to improve?

Don't be a keyboard or phone seducer. Go outside and use these tips.

Be the guy girls cheat on their boyfriends with, not the one who gets cuckolded.

Part 24

I've already slept with a girl an hour after meeting her on the street. It's the most animalistic and exhilarating feeling I've ever had. Pure Darwinism.

The more you talk to her, the less chance you have of fucking her.

Does my height, weight, age, baldness, etc... affect my seduction? "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't—you're right." - H. Ford

Let her do things for you. When a girl cancels a date and suggests another, I often tell her: "Ok, but I'll only accept if you bake me a muffin."

A man without a mission is dead inside.

Typical simp/autisticel: Leans in, speaks softly, breaks the tension, seeks approval, is available, passive, apologizes, friend-zones himself, asexual.

You can't have "all the girls." There are more girls who don't want to sleep with you than girls who do. The goal of seduction is to maximize our chances with the latter.

Seduction on the street/in a bar is like hunting a deer. Satisfying.
Tinder is like reheating a pizza in the microwave. Sad.

Men are naturally attracted to breasts and asses on girls. Women are attracted to the power of the man. The attraction is biological, it's not a choice.

Monogamy is an unnatural attempt to control human reproduction.

Part 25

I'm quite amazed by the guys who approach a girl without a plan or strategy. Play to win.

If men spent half the time they spend watching football, politics, and TV on working on their seduction, their transformation would be rapid.

My advice is like cheat codes. Instead of complaining "this depresses me," use them to your advantage.

"Give me 10 minutes with a girl to make her forget that I'm ugly and I'll sleep with the Queen of France." - Voltaire

Being annoyed or embarrassed by people gives them power over you. Instead, make sure you're entertained by them.

Be the driver, not the passenger.

Cultivate an expression of nonchalance and indifference. Get that stressed-out look off your face.

Some forum members say they are too "nice" to apply my advice. I don't understand. They are neutral and are simply biological truths.

Forget New Year's resolutions or bullshit like that. Improve yourself through daily, repeated habits.

Talking = Feminine. Acting = Masculine.

Part 26

Approaching a girl is difficult. They will be skeptical. You're the one who approached, so it's on you to do the work at the beginning. Own it.

Why does drama work on girls? Give them a dopamine hit and then take that source away. We want what we lack.

If you're a confident narcissist like me, a MAGNIFICENT weapon is the cocky self-disqualification:

"I'm terrible in bed."

"I have a micro-penis."

"I'm a virgin."

Being on a date with a masculine girl is horrible. Same goes for a girl being on a date with a beta guy.

"This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time."

Golden Rules of texting:

Take one-third longer than her to reply.

Write texts that are one-third shorter than hers.

Be one-third less enthusiastic than she is.

If you see a girl with a "choker," the tight necklace around her neck, approach her directly.

The best way to start something is to actually start it and stop talking about it.

Your mothers/friends who told you: "don't worry, you just have to wait and love will come" have been lying to you since you were young.

Creating attraction serves to get the girl to invest in the conversation. Once she's interested, don't overdo it.

Part 27

Look around you. In 100 years, everyone in your city, your country, will be dead. You and I included. Live life to the fullest before you die.

Consistency beats perfection.

The "I'm monogamous but cheat on my girlfriend from time to time" model is harder than the "I see several girls and they know about it" model.

If you're in seduction, it's to sleep with pretty girls. Get over the personal development bullshit excuses.

A "Nice guy" is the male equivalent of a "Gold Digger." Both hide their true intentions.

Don't be ashamed of your desires.

Being a "nice guy" with girls is a strategy that has been proven time and time again to be ineffective.

In your life, have several projects, but not too many. No projects makes you boring and depressed; too many makes you stressed and anxious.

Q: "Why are girls bitchy when I approach them?"
A: "It's completely normal, she's testing your frame."

Personal development gurus: "Open yourself up completely to the girl and CONNECT with her."
If that were true, it would sound like: "Hi, I want to take you doggy style and never call you again."

Part 28

Talking is weak (forums, seminars, conferences); action is the only thing that matters.

Shy girls are always much more accepting of being dominated in bed. Far from being fragile, she screams and asks for more.

"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after." - Thoreau

Looks > Charm/Charisma > Muscles/Money/Status. A female will always prefer NT HTN over an autistic HTN. Be the NT.

I have much more first-date sex with shy girls who talk little than with those who talk loud and laugh a lot.

Action shows who a person is; their words show who they want to become.

You must make the girl qualify herself; do not qualify yourself.

Success is a series of small actions repeated every day.

Uninstall Tinder; there are younger and prettier girls walking around on the street, in shopping malls, etc.

I have many clues at my place that I see several girls (open bottles of wine, hair ties), and this works in my favor; some girls even refer to it.

Part 29

Make her understand that she's not your only target; don't text her for several days. Show her in small ways that you are capable of giving her up.

A date should last between 1 and 2 hours, no more.

Once you've overcome the fear of approaching, buy a dictaphone and record yourself approaching. You'll quickly realize your weak points. I myself have hundreds of hours of audio from approaches and dates with girls on my PC.

"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person who is doing it."

Some of my "students" approach a girl and then eject, telling me: "she gave me a weird look." This is completely normal and you have to get used to it; it's an automatic response to a stranger.

"She looks busy, mean, in a bad mood, etc." Stop speculating. Many girls with their headphones in and a pissed-off look that I've approached started smiling right away.

Girls aged 18-21 are easy to make qualify themselves. Ask her where she has traveled, if she is as cool as she is cute, etc.

For your first 200 approaches, you will get heavily shot down, but that's normal. It's the dark period where you'll have to take the hits to get rid of the fear of approaching.

Familiarity kills sexual tension.

worth the read

ZASlaya · 2025-07-17T21:54:49-0500

Based thread, reading part I. will continue it later

kenibba · 2025-07-17T21:54:55-0500

read like a third of it pretty good thread ill read the rest tmr.

soggra · 2025-07-17T22:01:50-0500

Gren said:
If she's interested in your relations (e.g., "why are you single," "do you hit on all girls?") it's a dead giveaway that she's attracted. If you just have nice chats, it's the opposite.

Not necessarily true. I know this because I went on a first date with a girl once who was interested in my relations and still got ghosted after the date

mirinturbolowinhib · 2025-07-17T23:55:29-0500

Gren said:
Disclaimer before you read:
This guide is half blackpill/half redpill.
Note that everything that is written that involves approaching women
is to be applied only if you're HTN or above,
if you're below that, use at your own risk.
You probably know things about it.
This guide is not exhaustive and does not cover all topics.
It's here to help you better understand women, and how to deal with them.
TRUTH ABOUT WOMEN.
Street/bar seduction is like deer hunting. Satisfying.
Tinder is like reheating pizza in the microwave. Sad.

The best way to progress is still to practice.
Don't expect to see dazzling results after your first five attempts (and if you do, good for you).
Chad: Why are you even there?
Low Chadlite: Try 5.
High HTN: 10.
Mid HTN: 15.
Low HTN: 20.
Below: Sorry this doesn't apply to you.
The "redpill" is a hoax to sell you methods that fail because you're facially inferior.

Coming from a guy who's slept with quite a few, I hope this helps you. Here are some truths that aren't necessarily obvious:
Part 1

Very pretty girls are easier to hit on than girls who are just cute.

"Nice" girls are often more sexually excited than "bad", "unstable" girls due to frustration.

Kissing a girl and getting rejected gives you a better chance of sleeping with her in the long run than not trying anything at all.

Girls aged 18-21 are easier to hit on than those 22+ because they haven't yet been duped by several guys who don't call them back.

The guys who are the worst at seduction/the least attractive have more long-term relationships than the real players.

The more you need a girl, the less attracted she will be to you.

You'll get shot down less if you start heating things up with a girl outside the bedroom (couch, kitchen) than if you start directly on the bed (risk of her saying: "we don't know each other well enough," "this is going too fast," etc.).

She will be more attracted to you if you talk about subjects like sex or if you flirt outrageously with her than if you talk about your travels, passions.

An High Tier Becky gets more serious hits on than a Stacy, because most male believe they are 6/10 and thus deserve 6/10

If she's interested in your relations (e.g., "why are you single," "do you hit on all girls?") it's a dead giveaway that she's attracted. If you just have nice chats, it's the opposite.

The more drama you create and the more she sulks or even cries, the more attracted she will be to you. Ups and down are keys, even if they are artificially created.

A girl doesn't need to like your opinions to sleep with you. Quit sugarcoating your opinions.

The higher your IQ, the lower your "cro-magnon" man skills with girls are, which reduces her attraction to you.

If she knows you're hitting on, texting, or seeing other girls, her attraction to you increases proportionately.

If she calls you an asshole or a bastard, your chances of sleeping with her increase.

The more you study girls sociologically, the scam of feminism, etc., the more your hatred grows and the more your seduction skills weaken.

If you cancel a date at the last minute to reschedule it for another time, her attraction for you increases.

Avoid females who are on therapy; their meds are killing their sexual drive.

Having chemistry or a good connection with a girl makes a one-night stand more difficult.

Not cooking, cleaning, or "scratching your balls" in front of her after sleeping together (not immediately after) increases her attraction to you.

Part 2

Non-verbal language is much more important than what you actually say.

A woman isn't "bad," a "whore," or a "bitch." Her natural biology is more important than her religion, her country's culture, or her status. You can totally fuck a religious, virgin foid.

Push her away playfully, don't try to attract her by complimenting her.

Give her the opportunity to chase you.

Never hide your intentions. You want to be her lover, not her friend.

Seduction is a dance like the one between the fisherman and the fish. You have to maintain the tension on the line while knowing when to reel it in.

Height, muscles, and physique are only secondary in seduction. You are what you think you are. If you think you're short, fat, and ugly, you will be in the eyes of others.

A girl is a mirror. Don't take rejection personally, but draw conclusions from it.

There is an inverse correlation between the amount of time you spend complaining about girls on the internet and the number of girls you sleep with.

If she leads between the two of you before sex (where to sit, where to go, what to do), then you're headed straight for a wall.

Every step in this guide is better if you have at least one side-chick. Get the first one and collect them.

Part 3

By trying to escalate physically too quickly, you risk slowing things down. Calibrate.

The #1 problem men have with women: not hitting on enough of them and hiding their intentions.

Seduction is a secret between you and the girl. She likes it when it's discreet.

The more you talk during a date, the fewer chances you have of sleeping with her.

Charisma is a projection of power and warmth, almost as much as your looks.

Cut drastically everything that is toxic and makes you negative and angry. Whether it's the news, X, or even Looksmax / incels.is (fucking larper) forums.

In seduction, be the man who rolls the dice. Not the die itself.

The more success you have with women, the less you hate feminism.

Success with women, above what your SMV gives you = 90% practice + 10% theory.

Having a smirk on your face while looking at her that says: "I know that you know that I know."

Part 4

The fact that you are the leader with the girl is more important than where you take her.

You must allow the girl to chase you; don't hesitate to disappear from the radar and take a long time to reply to her texts.

The length of your texts must be shorter than hers, and you must take longer to reply than she does. Take your phone, display the conversation with her, and hold it out at arm's length. If your bubbles are bigger than hers, if you send more photos, something is wrong.

Short bubbles = Aggression. Large bubble = Defence. You don't want to be the guy who need to defend himself.

Talk as little as possible via Whatsapp, Snapchat, whatever shit you're using. Obviously this doesn't apply to Tinder, but you get it now; this thread isn't about Tinder.

After meeting a girl, 1 or 2 messages are enough to invite her for a drink. Seduction happens face to face, not in the virtual world.

In seduction, the person who needs the other the least has the power.

Don't think about how girls should change their behavior. Think about the changes YOU need to make to please them.

Act as if you know a naughty secret about her with a smirk on your face; the charm must be implicit. Never forced.

Seduction happens on the street, in bars, in cafes where YOU approach, where YOU accept the invitation she sent when you eyes met. Not behind a computer. Be the one who chooses, not the one who is chosen.

If at any given moment you can afford to abandon a girl (because you have others or act like you do), you have the greatest weapon.

Customers like to buy what they want, not what salespeople push them to buy. She has to feel like she's chasing you.

Part 5

A Stacy is nothing more than a girl you think you can't get. HTN can have Stacies in their beds.

Human nature makes us seek the approval of those with greater value than ours. A girl must qualify herself to you, not you to her.

Don't say half of what you think; be honest with a girl, even if it means being harsh.

Don't say "sorry I'm late" but "thanks for your patience." This may sound like LinkedIn bullshit, but mechanics are very similar.

There will always be a conflict of interest between the seller and the client. The man (casual sex with multiple girls) and the woman (resources and children).

Physical escalation isn't the only important thing. It's the message you send with it (you desire her, she attracts you sexually).

Never talk religion or politics with a girl during a date, NEVER. You can start from the moment you made her cum. Not before.

If the seduction is too easy, the girl is on a lower level than you. Aim for the moon, not the haystack.

You want to know if she's interested or just there to get a free drink and refresh her ego? Escalate physically and observe her response.

Being needy comes from a lack of options and leads to over-investing in a single target, which ruins the girl's attraction for you. Have several arrows in your quiver.

Part 6

If she initiates physical contact, get ready to call an Uber right to your bed. Green light 101.

Men are attracted to young and pretty girls. Girls are attracted to men with power (those who think directly of money or muscles are on the wrong track).

Reading this kind of advice I'm giving you is great, but putting it into practice is much more important.

Be the puzzle the girl wants to solve, not the tissue she wipes her emotions on.

The real reason to hold the door for a girl is to look at her ass.

Don't ask your buddies or female friends (even worse) what works. Get out in the field and test it.

Don't ask a girl how to be successful with them, but rather your buddies who are successful. A fisherman doesn't ask the fish for advice.

Listen to what she DOES. Not what she SAYS.

The real risk with girls is not trying anything. You only have one life.

Part 7

"I don't know what to talk about during a date." It's easy, talk about the subject she loves the most: HER. Her past, her present, her future.

"I'm nervous about asking for her number." It's simple, verbalize your awkwardness: "Here's the awkward moment where we exchange numbers to go for a drink later."

She doesn't reply to your message or cancels/refuses your proposal without offering an alternative? Next.

Don't blame the girls or society. Blame yourself and your seduction skills.

A girl will never put you in the Friendzone if you clarify your intentions. Don't hide your dick.

If "being yourself" was enough, you would already have the sex life you dream of. Don't be someone else, improve yourself and work on your seduction to be the best version of yourself.

"Nice girls" are just "bad girls" who haven't been caught yet.

If she tells you: "I have a boyfriend," reply with a smile: "I don't want to be your boyfriend" and continue.

There is no "perfect moment." Physical escalation on a date is often messy. Lead and do it.

Part 8

Even if you have no idea what you're doing with her, act like you know.

A man cannot and should not be friends with a girl he desires sexually.

She feels what you feel. Don't forget that you have to give if you want to receive.

Three examples of bullshit advice that don't help men progress:

"Be natural"

"Be authentic"

"Be yourself"

If that were the case, you would all have the sex life you dream of (I'm not saying not to be yourselves, but to be the best version of yourselves by working on it).

Don't ask girls questions, give them affirmations. Transform "what do you do for a living?" into "I imagine you work in something creative."

Your job is to lead her to a decision, not to get her to say yes. Become good at spotting the girls who are dead ends.

Being needy is the #1 attraction killer.

Your value isn't just physical or due to money. I know low HTN guys who aren't good-looking or rich who sleep with Stacies.

Effeminate men are desired by masculine girls. Masculine men desire feminine girls. Believing that a feminine man in a girl's eyes is a guy who wears skinny jeans and doesn't lift is wrong.

Being social is not the same as being sexual. If you're just social you'll make the girl laugh but you won't sleep with her. Own your desires.

Part 9

When a girl tests you (e.g., "you're short," "that guy over there is better looking than you," "you're not muscular"), be non-reactive. If you react, you've lost. Instead, agree and amplify. E.g., for "you're short," reply "and you haven't even seen my micro-penis."

Being fixated on a single girl without having slept with her is the biggest obstacle to becoming a good seducer.

What girls say they like and what they actually desire are two completely different things.

When you like or comment on her photos on social media, her attraction and respect for you decrease.

Seducing without looking like you're doing it, that's seduction.

Becoming good will never let you have all the girls, but it will increase your chances.

Girls don't want to win, they want a winner.

A woman's biological instinct is stronger than religion and political or social ideas.

Worst texts to send to a girl:

"How are you?"

"Did you have a good day?"

"What's up?"

Once a girl has put you in the friend zone, getting out of it is very complex and a waste of time, next.

Stop asking her: "How's it going?" or "Are you having fun?" when she's with you. Don't seek her approval.

Becoming good at seduction is like becoming good at guitar. Practice, practice, and practice.

Don't approach a girl while wearing sunglasses.

Don't dream of "Pussy Paradise." It doesn't exist. The country where you'll have the easiest time picking up is the one where you live.

Your physique matters if it's all you have to offer.

Bad seducers and "beta males" like to mock "alpha males" with phrases like:

"A real man settles down with one girl."

"Casual sex is behind me."

In truth, man is not biologically made to be monogamous.

Worst questions to ask a girl you just met:

"What's your name?"

"Where do you live?"

"What do you do for a living?"

Things to avoid to be good at seduction: lack of sleep, negative friends, inaction, fast food, television, isolation, complaining on a forum, and having a victim mentality.

New girls are better than trying to fix the ones where you've already messed up. Next.

Part 10

When you hit on a girl, don't overthink it and appeal to your animal brain.

A girl never puts a guy in the friend zone; it's the guy who puts himself there.

Narcissism is a key to attracting girls.

To increase your success rate, you must double your failure rate.

1 year of approaching girls will give you more social intelligence than 10 years of normal life.

The risks in case of failure are small (rejection, her not responding), while the rewards in case of success are immense (sex, relationship, children).

The "woman of your life" doesn't exist. There are several "women of your life." I myself have already met several.

The most dangerous risk: doing nothing today by telling yourself you'll do it tomorrow.

In the history of humanity, there has never been a time when seduction was easier. Stop complaining.

Personal development is bullshit. It pumps your time into reading theory when you should be practicing.

Part 11

Don't audition to become her little boyfriend; be the judge.

Marriage is the #1 cause of divorce.

The extremely dumb sentence: "I didn't think you were that kind of girl " works.

Stop looking at women as magnificent marble statues and more like an all-you-can-eat buffet.

A girl is neither good nor bad. She adapts to what you want. If you play the ideal son-in-law, she will position herself as a little girlfriend. If you play the bad boy, she will be inclined to play the villain.

Overthinking leads to negative thoughts.

You can't be friends with a girl you find attractive and want to sleep with. Stop friendzoning yourselves.

Don't explain to a girl why she acts a certain way sociologically. It won't make you more interesting.

When men get older, they look like Sean Connery. When women get older, they look like... Sean Connery.

What matters is what you do, not what you say or plan.

Part 12

"Why me?", "Life isn't fair," "it's the genetic lottery," "women are all whores," "there's a Zionist feminist conspiracy." The victim and loser mentality is toxic AND addictive. Get away from it or embrace it, do whatever you want but stop whining about the rules, you don't have the power to change them.

NT behavior is acting the same in front of a Stacy the same way you behave in front of an ugly friend.

Reading these truths without applying them or believing them will lead you to being: frustrated, angry, mean, depressed.

White Knights defend girls against bad boys, but complain when they make love to these bad boys and wonder "why isn't she being a slut with me?". Most incels are white knights in denial.

You are what you think you are.

If you don't work to achieve what you want, you will never have it.

Asking a guy in a long-term relationship for seduction advice is like asking the cashier at McDonald's how to go on a diet.

Be so confident in yourself that it becomes irrational (to get used to it).

If you go out with a girl who is neither younger nor prettier than you, you're on the wrong track.

If you are reactive and easily provoked by a girl, you've lost.

Part 13

Persuasion is not a science but an art.

You don't get what you deserve; you get what you work for.

The banal discussions are indispensable but not sexy. Don't spend your whole date on them.

The best time to make a decision about a girl is right after having sex with her.

Statistically speaking, more than 30% of the girls neurotypical HTN fuckboy slayed had a boyfriend or a fuck buddy.

A girl only needs a few minutes to know if you are a potential lover.

If her bra and panties are the same color, she knew what was going to happen.

A seducer, a poker player, or a trader have in common that they only look at the long-term results.

How you're going to spend the rest of your life is your choice alone.

See sex everywhere, as if women are always in the mood for it. It will greatly improve your seduction.

Part 14

Anonymity is key in seduction: if you're passionate about beautiful girls, it's preferable to live in a city with more than 1 million inhabitants.

A white knight with fantasies of pure girls who always gets friend-zoned will be passively aggressive towards the girls and the men who take their destiny into their own hands. Don't be like that.

A real man is someone who defends women, takes care of them, brings them things, and does good around him. If you think that, you're on the wrong path.

Men aren't looking for a girl to make love to. Many are in need of affection and looking for a mother substitute.

"Casual sex with different girls is pointless," says the jealous guy in a long-term relationship with his girlfriend with whom he has sex once a week.

Always be on with several girls at the same time.

Don't waste your time with "personal development."

"Nice" guys aren't nice. They suppress their instincts, hide their feelings, and deny their fantasies.

The fantasy of purity. Dividing girls into "sluts" or "saints" reveals your glaring lack of experience.

Girls don't want a nice guy. Show them adventure, domination, power, leadership. Being nice makes them "go limp," if I may say so.

Part 15

Men with a lower IQ have fewer problems leading and escalating physically.

Fear leads men to live a boring life.

In seduction, as in Poker, you lose more hands than you win. But when you win, you win big.

The longer you wait to sexualize, the more difficult it will be.

Meeting / Discussion / Gossip = Feminine. Mission / Debate / Action = Masculine.

Making topics to complain about women's behavior makes as much sense as making topics to complain about the behavior of children or puppies.

Seducing a girl who doesn't speak your language is easier if you're good. Silence, sexual tension, ... primitive.

As soon as she sees you as a potential boyfriend, she will put the brakes on sex in no time.

Making a girl laugh doesn't necessarily help with seduction and can have the opposite effect.

Your energy presents you before you even open your mouth.

Part 16

In seduction, you have to be a rational optimist (positive, active, happy) and not a pessimist (victim mentality, complaining about society, angry, depressed).

The longer the date, the less chance you have of sleeping with her.

"Sorry," "Excuse me," are words to banish from your vocabulary.

When it comes to making a decision, it's not the one who is right who wins, but the one with the most conviction.

Being a beautiful 18-year-old girl is like suddenly getting 1 million dollars and having to invest it wisely before it disappears in 10 years.

If you do what everyone else does, then you're doing it wrong.

Sexual tension is not comfortable, but don't break it; embrace the awkwardness it provokes.

The things you don't want to hear on a date:

"Wow, your stories are interesting."

"Haha, you're funny."

"Ah, you're a really nice guy."

Audacity makes even the smallest of animals dangerous.

Provoking drama earns you a ton of attraction: silence, jealousy, challenging, pretending to leave. Bad boy 101.

Part 17

Girls like to sleep with married men because they prefer non-needy, no-strings-attached sex over a guy who will become too clingy.

One is too close to 0. Always have options with several girls to avoid being needy.

Tinder is a very good thing for real seducers. The more guys hiding behind their screens, the easier and more appreciated seduction in real life becomes for women.

Self-sufficiency is the greatest of riches.

The perfect accusation for a girl: calling her "little one." Little princess, little bitch. They like to feel small.

When a girl has an overly princessy behavior, don't hesitate to yell at her. Very recently, a Russian girl arrived 30 minutes late for a date. I gave her a piece of my mind and asked her to apologize. That's all she was waiting for. We ended up at my place.

"Those who look hungry will never be fed." Too eager, too many texts, texts longer than hers, getting emotional, putting the girl on a pedestal ("she's different from the others"), these are the sins of the future friend-zoned.

When guys feel a 'connection' with a girl and say 'she's not like the others,' they let their guard down, lose control, and lose.

Worst texts to send:

"Hey, how's it going?"

"Are you free at what time?"

"Do you want to go for a drink?"

No pretty girl is ever completely single. Get over it, accept it.

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Creating a silence, whether during a conversation or by text, allows you to evaluate her interest by seeing if she re-engages.

Walk down the street with your shoulders back, chin up, taking up space.

The best moment to kiss her is when she's talking.

A large part of her attraction to you is built when you're not there. The longer she's there, sitting, thinking about you, the better.

Use ironic phrases: "I would make a very bad boyfriend." "I'm lazy, I need a woman who does the cooking."

Women love men who represent a challenge. Once you are no longer one, she will gradually get bored.

When she talks about her ex, saying: "I left him because he was this, that," that's exactly how you should be.

When you start seduction, force yourself to break monotonous discussions.

A good text: "I'm thirsty, let's go for a drink tomorrow night. And don't forget to wear something sexy for me "
A bad text: "Hey, what's up? Free for a drink tomorrow? 8 pm?"

Women, like children and puppies, are in the moment. Their emotions dictate their behavior, and it can change very quickly. Make her feel, not think.

Part 19

When you say "this one is different," you're wrong. She's not, it's the situation that is. The biology of women remains the same.

Every time she says goodbye, she should wonder if she'll see you again, if you like her, and if you're seeing other girls.

Seduction leads to several options. Several options lead to several choices. Several choices lead to freedom.

Don't wait for her to be ready for physical escalation. She will be ready when you escalate.

A "Beta" male is always ready to hang out with girls.

Shy and innocent girls (the good girls) are the ones with the most sexual desire.

What girls say they want is often the exact opposite of what they really want.

When you become good at seduction, social discussions become unbearable (what do you do for a living, where are you from, etc.).

People who say that in seduction you just have to be yourself and not learn anything will never sleep with a lot of girls.

Pretty girls will never know if they are really interesting or not.

Part 20

Never qualify yourself when a girl tests you. Play on offense, not defense.

A girl will often ask you the same questions to test you; you should have answers for the most frequent ones.

Quickly move past the boring chit-chat (what do you do for a living, etc.) and escalate verbally and physically.

The cost of a monogamous relationship/keeping the same girl for too long: Stagnation, pushes you to find excuses, makes you physically and mentally soft.
Seduction is a sport with direct feedback from the girl. Talking about seduction on a forum won't make you progress much.

Don't be desperate to plan the next date. Let her wonder if she'll see you again.

Making her angry is always better than making her feel nothing. Be her emotion dealer.

Humans are not made for monogamy. Rather than raging against it, use it to your advantage.

Don't try to make her comfortable. Silences, physical escalation, strong emotions... the tension is very seductive, don't break it.

Part 21

Tinder is not seduction because it's the girls who choose you. Be the one who chooses instead.

Seducing a beautiful 18-21 year old girl is like driving a Formula 1 car in the rain.

The number of arrows in your quiver is directly proportional to your level of neediness.

If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough.

The fact that women have lovers and "providers" only pisses off the providers.

Biology > Ideology.

Keep your dominant male frame and the girl in front of you will accept being dominated without batting an eye.

Embrace her tests. It's a good sign. She's checking if you are dominant enough to let her take control from you.

Women fall in love with what you are, only to then try to make you become what you are not. They are attracted to the lover and disgusted by the provider.

In the very beginning, it's up to you to work to attract the girl. She won't fall under your charm in 5 seconds.

Part 22

When you propose a date to a girl and she says she can't, without suggesting another date, it's dead, move on.
Ex: "Sorry I can't on Monday. Thursday?" -> Good. "Sorry I can't on Monday." -> Bad.

Beta male: monogamous couple -> Bank loan -> Tertiary job.
Alpha male: Several girls -> His own boss -> Free.

Question from the jean-virgins: "Isn't it boring to sleep with lots of girls with no strings attached?"
Alpha's answer: "Less than staying in a long-term relationship and for at least 2 years sleeping once a week with the same girl."

The excuses of jean-virgins for not working on their seduction: "That only works with good-looking guys / That only works with easy girls / It's not natural." I'm not particularly good-looking and I've slept with neurologists, doctors, lawyers, etc. Never a hairdresser or a cashier, though.

If you've made it this far on this topic, you have enough to start working on your seduction.

Create more content than you consume.

A victim mentality is for weak men. A positive and proactive mentality is for strong men. Women feel it very keenly.

Girls are like Metamorph. If you are good at seduction, she will take the form you want: from a one-night stand to a long-term relationship... it's up to you to decide.

Girls like to need a man but don't like it when a man needs them. She is looking for a dominant male.

Getting angry at biology and genetics makes as much sense as getting angry at gravity. Society doesn't change. Don't punish yourself by complaining.

Part 23

Don't believe the "no fap" purists. For many, including me, cleaning out the rifle increases concentration in seduction.

If she behaves badly (cancels, shows up 30 minutes late), it's okay once but not twice. Put her back in her place, and if it doesn't change, move on.

"Are girls different in Paris or in London?" No. Biology doesn't change. Attraction/seduction is universal.

Apart from a drink or a coffee, don't pay for anything for a girl. You want to be her lover, not her provider.

Never hide your intentions. If you're going to talk to her, it's to fuck her.

How to fail: Complain, be the victim, follow the crowd, procrastinate, live in the past.

A "nice guy" lies more to girls than a seducer who is clear about his intentions.

Seduction is difficult because the girl is your mirror and shows you your flaws directly. But at the same time, what better way to improve?

Don't be a keyboard or phone seducer. Go outside and use these tips.

Be the guy girls cheat on their boyfriends with, not the one who gets cuckolded.

Part 24

I've already slept with a girl an hour after meeting her on the street. It's the most animalistic and exhilarating feeling I've ever had. Pure Darwinism.

The more you talk to her, the less chance you have of fucking her.

Does my height, weight, age, baldness, etc... affect my seduction? "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't—you're right." - H. Ford

Let her do things for you. When a girl cancels a date and suggests another, I often tell her: "Ok, but I'll only accept if you bake me a muffin."

A man without a mission is dead inside.

Typical simp/autisticel: Leans in, speaks softly, breaks the tension, seeks approval, is available, passive, apologizes, friend-zones himself, asexual.

You can't have "all the girls." There are more girls who don't want to sleep with you than girls who do. The goal of seduction is to maximize our chances with the latter.

Seduction on the street/in a bar is like hunting a deer. Satisfying.
Tinder is like reheating a pizza in the microwave. Sad.

Men are naturally attracted to breasts and asses on girls. Women are attracted to the power of the man. The attraction is biological, it's not a choice.

Monogamy is an unnatural attempt to control human reproduction.

Part 25

I'm quite amazed by the guys who approach a girl without a plan or strategy. Play to win.

If men spent half the time they spend watching football, politics, and TV on working on their seduction, their transformation would be rapid.

My advice is like cheat codes. Instead of complaining "this depresses me," use them to your advantage.

"Give me 10 minutes with a girl to make her forget that I'm ugly and I'll sleep with the Queen of France." - Voltaire

Being annoyed or embarrassed by people gives them power over you. Instead, make sure you're entertained by them.

Be the driver, not the passenger.

Cultivate an expression of nonchalance and indifference. Get that stressed-out look off your face.

Some forum members say they are too "nice" to apply my advice. I don't understand. They are neutral and are simply biological truths.

Forget New Year's resolutions or bullshit like that. Improve yourself through daily, repeated habits.

Talking = Feminine. Acting = Masculine.

Part 26

Approaching a girl is difficult. They will be skeptical. You're the one who approached, so it's on you to do the work at the beginning. Own it.

Why does drama work on girls? Give them a dopamine hit and then take that source away. We want what we lack.

If you're a confident narcissist like me, a MAGNIFICENT weapon is the cocky self-disqualification:

"I'm terrible in bed."

"I have a micro-penis."

"I'm a virgin."

Being on a date with a masculine girl is horrible. Same goes for a girl being on a date with a beta guy.

"This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time."

Golden Rules of texting:

Take one-third longer than her to reply.

Write texts that are one-third shorter than hers.

Be one-third less enthusiastic than she is.

If you see a girl with a "choker," the tight necklace around her neck, approach her directly.

The best way to start something is to actually start it and stop talking about it.

Your mothers/friends who told you: "don't worry, you just have to wait and love will come" have been lying to you since you were young.

Creating attraction serves to get the girl to invest in the conversation. Once she's interested, don't overdo it.

Part 27

Look around you. In 100 years, everyone in your city, your country, will be dead. You and I included. Live life to the fullest before you die.

Consistency beats perfection.

The "I'm monogamous but cheat on my girlfriend from time to time" model is harder than the "I see several girls and they know about it" model.

If you're in seduction, it's to sleep with pretty girls. Get over the personal development bullshit excuses.

A "Nice guy" is the male equivalent of a "Gold Digger." Both hide their true intentions.

Don't be ashamed of your desires.

Being a "nice guy" with girls is a strategy that has been proven time and time again to be ineffective.

In your life, have several projects, but not too many. No projects makes you boring and depressed; too many makes you stressed and anxious.

Q: "Why are girls bitchy when I approach them?"
A: "It's completely normal, she's testing your frame."

Personal development gurus: "Open yourself up completely to the girl and CONNECT with her."
If that were true, it would sound like: "Hi, I want to take you doggy style and never call you again."

Part 28

Talking is weak (forums, seminars, conferences); action is the only thing that matters.

Shy girls are always much more accepting of being dominated in bed. Far from being fragile, she screams and asks for more.

"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after." - Thoreau

Looks > Charm/Charisma > Muscles/Money/Status. A female will always prefer NT HTN over an autistic HTN. Be the NT.

I have much more first-date sex with shy girls who talk little than with those who talk loud and laugh a lot.

Action shows who a person is; their words show who they want to become.

You must make the girl qualify herself; do not qualify yourself.

Success is a series of small actions repeated every day.

Uninstall Tinder; there are younger and prettier girls walking around on the street, in shopping malls, etc.

I have many clues at my place that I see several girls (open bottles of wine, hair ties), and this works in my favor; some girls even refer to it.

Part 29

Make her understand that she's not your only target; don't text her for several days. Show her in small ways that you are capable of giving her up.

A date should last between 1 and 2 hours, no more.

Once you've overcome the fear of approaching, buy a dictaphone and record yourself approaching. You'll quickly realize your weak points. I myself have hundreds of hours of audio from approaches and dates with girls on my PC.

"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person who is doing it."

Some of my "students" approach a girl and then eject, telling me: "she gave me a weird look." This is completely normal and you have to get used to it; it's an automatic response to a stranger.

"She looks busy, mean, in a bad mood, etc." Stop speculating. Many girls with their headphones in and a pissed-off look that I've approached started smiling right away.

Girls aged 18-21 are easy to make qualify themselves. Ask her where she has traveled, if she is as cool as she is cute, etc.

For your first 200 approaches, you will get heavily shot down, but that's normal. It's the dark period where you'll have to take the hits to get rid of the fear of approaching.

Familiarity kills sexual tension.

Dnr

mirinturbolowinhib · 2025-07-17T23:55:43-0500

browncurrycel · 2025-07-18T00:20:00-0500

Gren said:
Being fixated on a single girl without having slept with her is the biggest obstacle to becoming a good seducer

Brutal.
I was very nt before the entire fiasco with my itis happened.
I just want to look good enough to not be considered ugly bro

Asiangymmax · 2025-07-18T00:21:05-0500

enlightful · 2025-07-18T01:02:28-0500

SubSigma · 2025-07-18T02:31:50-0500

Read all. Good advice, i’ll try to apply this today.

//SubSigma

6ft8 · 2025-07-18T02:32:34-0500

Gren said:
Not cooking, cleaning, or "scratching your balls" in front of her after sleeping together (not immediately after) increases her attraction to you.

What

kenibba · 2025-07-18T09:55:20-0500

gren can you rate me g

mulattocel · 2025-07-18T12:40:48-0500

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This deserves way more rep but of course the truecels “dnr

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Truth about women. Why you're (probably) doing it wrong as an HTN/Low Chadlite.

Gren

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