Turned $250 into $52K since the start of lockdown playing online poker

[Gazzamogga]

Playing on the side while finishing my bachelor

 

[Deleted member 1862]

real money? can u withdraw?

 

[Gazzamogga]

real money? can u withdraw?

Yes and yes

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Yes and yes

absolutely mirin

 

[Deleted member 11134]

I guess you played MTTs? limits? pokerstars?

 

[Gazzamogga]

I guess you played MTTs? limits? pokerstars?

Yes. Started $2 abi now $30 abi

Stars.eu
Stars.es
GG
Party
ACR

 

[Deleted member 11134]

Yes. Started $2 abi now $30 abi

Stars.eu
Stars.es
GG
Party
ACR

I played a lot in 2012-2013.

Is there enough traffic for micro MTTs these days?

How did you split your bankroll among these sites?

Very impressive btw

 

[Gazzamogga]

I played a lot in 2012-2013.

Is there enough traffic for micro MTTs these days?

How did you split your bankroll among these sites?

Very impressive btw

Yeah me too, only picked it back up because I was bored as fuck because of lockdown

Yes plenty

Keep most of it on Stars because it's the safest, whenever I need a refill on the other sites I just swap with people I trust

 

[Deleted member 9072]

insane

will try

worth it?

 

[Gazzamogga]

insane

will try

worth it?

You will only succeed if you really like playing and studying poker

And it's only worth it if you really like playing and studying poker

 

[Deleted member 3163]

I don't know how to play poker

 

[Deleted member 11134]

Yeah me too, only picked it back up because I was bored as fuck because of lockdown

Yes plenty

Keep most of it on Stars because it's the safest, whenever I need a refill on the other sites I just swap with people I trust

nice to hear, I thought there is no money in online poker any more.

how did you get on track again with poker? I feel like I lost all my skills after 8 years. did you buy MTT coaching courses or something like that?

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Playing on the side while finishing my bachelor

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I don't get poker. Isn't it just math? Why is it not dominated by robots? How can a human beat a robot?
Doesn't make sense, something is fishy.

 

[Gazzamogga]

nice to hear, I thought there is no money in online poker any more.

how did you get on track again with poker? I feel like I lost all my skills after 8 years. did you buy MTT coaching courses or something like that?

Plenty of money in it still, just have to work a bit harder nowadays

I just started playing the $2.50 180 mans on Stars to get my fundamentals back on track etc and watched free content. When I had made some money I invested $1k in a MTT course and used that to study. Now hired a coach to go over leaks in my database and discuss theory

I don't get poker. Isn't it just math? Why is it not dominated by robots? How can a human beat a robot?
Doesn't make sense, something is fishy.

Yeah it's math but it's very complex. Perhaps there are one or more extremely sophisticated bots out there but they wouldn't be worth cost of development and computing power to run on the stakes I play at. Also it might be entirely possible that there are no bots that are better than me in the format I play in

Also it's executing strategies that are based on math

 

[Deleted member 4887]

I've always thought about this, I am good at poker but every time I play live games of poker people fold fucking everything...

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Plenty of money in it still, just have to work a bit harder nowadays

I just started playing the $2.50 180 mans on Stars to get my fundamentals back on track etc and watched free content. When I had made some money I invested $1k in a MTT course and used that to study. Now hired a coach to go over leaks in my database and discuss theory


Yeah it's math but it's very complex. Perhaps there are one or more extremely sophisticated bots out there but they wouldn't be worth cost of development and computing power to run on the stakes I play at. Also it might be entirely possible that there are no bots that are better than me in the format I play in

Bots could run on a $5 cpu from 2010 just fine. Many bots at once in fact.
That's my point. Poker is math and computers do perfect math in microseconds. Where humans at best can only guesstimate the probabilities.
I don't see anything too complex, but I never really played poker. I'm pretty sure math on poker has also been done already, so you wouldn't even need much to do, besides just implementing it.
So I find it very strange. Never got involved, because made no sense in there being any money. Just a scam.
I've read strategies, guides, paid ones too, etc. Of course I didn't pay for it. Just was curious.
Idk. Was just wondering...

 

[Deleted member 10107]

What's a good site to start playing on?

 

[MansNotHot]

Plenty of money in it still, just have to work a bit harder nowadays

I just started playing the $2.50 180 mans on Stars to get my fundamentals back on track etc and watched free content. When I had made some money I invested $1k in a MTT course and used that to study. Now hired a coach to go over leaks in my database and discuss theory


Yeah it's math but it's very complex. Perhaps there are one or more extremely sophisticated bots out there but they wouldn't be worth cost of development and computing power to run on the stakes I play at. Also it might be entirely possible that there are no bots that are better than me in the format I play in

Also it's executing strategies that are based on math

Any guide on how to get good at poker?

 

[Mouthbreath]

I don't get poker. Isn't it just math? Why is it not dominated by robots? How can a human beat a robot?
Doesn't make sense, something is fishy.

AI trained bots can outperform the best human players if they just play long enough

the catch is that its quite difficult to train your ai and you need millions of games to analyze etc, but theoretically you could build a bot yourself

 

[Deleted member 4887]

Yo everytime I play live poker people are next level conservative they keep folding. How do i play with these types of people?

 

[bwrauycnee]

How tough is the competition at the higher stakes? Are they generally tight/loose or are they sophisticated enough to employ GTO strategies?

 

[Deleted member 10536]

AI trained bots can outperform the best human players if they just play long enough

the catch is that its quite difficult to train your ai and you need millions of games to analyze etc, but theoretically you could build a bot yourself

I'm not even talking about machine learning. Just running a mathematical model of probabilities.

 

[Deleted member 11134]

I just started playing the $2.50 180 mans on Stars to get my fundamentals back on track etc and watched free content. When I had made some money I invested $1k in a MTT course and used that to study. Now hired a coach to go over leaks in my database and discuss theory

the 2.5$ 180s were what I played back in the days, cool that they still exist.

May I ask you where you watched the free content and which MTT you bought?

 

[Mouthbreath]

I'm not even talking about machine learning. Just running a mathematical model of probabilities.

you would have to define a rule set for your bot that would be incredibly complex, and then the bot would only become as good as its creator (most online players do actually play very mathematically, they know exactly what odds they have in a given situation)

supervised learning would do almost everything on its own and it can get better than you, applying strategies you dont know of

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Just running a mathematical model of probabilities.

not sure tho, computers aren't great at combinatorics, permutations, counting etc

 

[Deleted member 1862]

you would have to define a rule set for your bot that would be incredibly complex, and then the bot would only become as good as its creator (most online players do actually play very mathematically, they know exactly what odds they have in a given situation)

supervised learning would do almost everything on its own and it can get better than you, applying strategies you dont know of

supervised learning is entirely infeasible for this sort of task (for the avg person)

in fact, pretty much all impressive applications of supervised learning are infeasible for the average person.

 

[Gazzamogga]

Bots could run on a $5 cpu from 2010 just fine. Many bots at once in fact.
That's my point. Poker is math and computers do perfect math in microseconds. Where humans at best can only guesstimate the probabilities.
I don't see anything too complex, but I never really played poker. I'm pretty sure math on poker has also been done already, so you wouldn't even need much to do, besides just implementing it.
So I find it very strange. Never got involved, because made no sense in there being any money. Just a scam.
I've read strategies, guides, paid ones too, etc. Of course I didn't pay for it. Just was curious.
Idk. Was just wondering...

Not bots that are sophisticated enough to adjust to constantly changing effective stack sizes, stack distributions and ICM adjusted situations

There are bots out there, just not ones that are winning big in the format I play in.

Also the sites do a decent job of getting rid of them whenever they do pop up in different formats

I've always thought about this, I am good at poker but every time I play live games of poker people fold fucking everything...

Most people think they're good at poker because they beat some drunk clowns in their local live game

What's a good site to start playing on?

Scroll up

Any guide on how to get good at poker?

Invest in database software (PokerTracker 4 recommended), watch a shitload of free content, play a lot with money that you can afford to lose.

Yo everytime I play live poker people are next level conservative they keep folding. How do i play with these types of people?

Bluff them more

AI trained bots can outperform the best human players if they just play long enough

the catch is that its quite difficult to train your ai and you need millions of games to analyze etc, but theoretically you could build a bot yourself

Only in simple formats such as heads up 100bb no ante

How tough is the competition at the higher stakes? Are they generally tight/loose or are they sophisticated enough to employ GTO strategies?

I don't play higher stakes so I wouldn't know. Currently play $11-$109 and $215 if it's a good tournament

I'm not even talking about machine learning. Just running a mathematical model of probabilities.

You don't understand what you're talking about

the 2.5$ 180s were what I played back in the days, cool that they still exist.

May I ask you where you watched the free content and which MTT you bought?

Raise Your Edge, BBZ, Even some Twitch streams from Lex Veldhuis

Bought the Raise Your Edge Masterclass Expert on sale for $1K

 

[Deleted member 10536]

you would have to define a rule set for your bot that would be incredibly complex, and then the bot would only become as good as its creator (most online players do actually play very mathematically, they know exactly what odds they have in a given situation)

supervised learning would do almost everything on its own and it can get better than you, applying strategies you dont know of

I simply concede, because I don't have experience. Just seemed intuitively that it should be robot/math dominated field.
The way I see it, poker is less complex and more determined trading, with limitations.

 

[Deleted member 5788]

Mirin and mirin.
That reminds me the good old days at full tilt and dollaropoker
For my laziness I mostly played cash game, but the level of years ago was not comparable to now... another game lmao.

Do you also play cash? And if yes, you notice it has been tough? Or it's only more study review vs reg? (which I've always hate doing).
MTTs still lot of dead money I suppose.

 

[Deleted member 10524]

Not bots that are sophisticated enough to adjust to constantly changing effective stack sizes, stack distributions and ICM adjusted situations

There are bots out there, just not ones that are winning big in the format I play in.

Also the sites do a decent job of getting rid of them whenever they do pop up in different formats


Most people think they're good at poker because they beat some drunk clowns in their local live game


Scroll up


Invest in database software (PokerTracker 4 recommended), watch a shitload of free content, play a lot with money that you can afford to lose.


Bluff them more


Only in simple formats such as heads up 100bb no ante


I don't play higher stakes so I wouldn't know. Currently play $11-$109 and $215 if it's a good tournament


You don't understand what you're talking about


Raise Your Edge, BBZ, Even some Twitch streams from Lex Veldhuis

Bought the Raise Your Edge Masterclass Expert on sale for $1K

$1k?? Can you torrent that for me

 

[Deleted member 5048]

absolutely mirin, jaw dropping

 

[Deleted member 10536]

supervised learning is entirely infeasible for this sort of task (for the avg person)

in fact, pretty much all impressive applications of supervised learning are infeasible for the average person.

Was never talking about avg person though. In fact, had in mind institutions only who can no problem throw away tens of millions of dollars into developing this kind of stuff.
In the end you only need an algorithm and program code is the easiest thing after wards.
Idk how you can argue that computational speed is the barrier here.
There are lots of smart people who work optimising bigO. Even though I can't comprehend speed being the bottleneck.

 

[Gazzamogga]

Mirin and mirin.
That reminds me the good old days at full tilt and dollaropoker
For my laziness I mostly played cash game, but the level of years ago was not comparable to now... another game lmao.

Do you also play cash? And if yes, you notice it has been tough? Or it's only more study review vs reg? (which I've always hate doing).
MTTs still lot of dead money I suppose.

No never cash

$1k?? Can you torrent that for me

Worth it if you put the work in

 

[Mouthbreath]

supervised learning is entirely infeasible for this sort of task (for the avg person)

in fact, pretty much all impressive applications of supervised learning are infeasible for the average person.

why? just because they dont have access to enough data? that is indeed kind of difficult, because you cant just let the bot start playing with real money because it would loose a lot in the beginning. and playing without money first wouldnt help a lot because it would just engrave wrong strategies that only work with play money (because every human plays different when real money is on the line)

 

[gamma]

Mirin hard
How will you spend that money?

 

[Patient A]

Playing on the side while finishing my bachelor

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Fuark how many games did you play from start to finish relevant to this graph?

 

[Deleted member 1476]

want to become my paypig

 

[Gazzamogga]

Mirin hard
How will you spend that money?

Play higher stakes > make more money

Fuark how many games did you play from start to finish relevant to this graph?

X-axis is number of games

want to become my paypig

 

[Deleted member 10172]

Playing on the side while finishing my bachelor

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you must be white and high IQ how come this is happening

 

[Jamal2222]

s

You will only succeed if you really like playing and studying poker

And it's only worth it if you really like playing and studying poker

same thing with stocks

 

[Gazzamogga]

you must be white and high IQ how come this is happening

White yes

Don't know my IQ but suspect it's at least above avg

 

[gamma]

Play higher stakes > make more money

At least spend some thousands to improve your look and your lifestyle
Having money but not spending is useless

 

[Copeful]

its illegal though

 

[eduardkoopman]

Chad + Rich

 

[Deleted member 6403]

im gonna hop on this shit, i just need a band

 

[Gazzamogga]

its illegal though

nope

 

[Patient A]

X-axis is number of games

Holy shit 6000 games!

and how much experience did you have previous to those 6000 games?

 

[Gazzamogga]

Holy shit 6000 games!

and how much experience did you have previous to those 6000 games?

18K games but mostly in different formats where you can play way more games in the same timeframe

 

[Patient A]

18K games but mostly in different formats where you can play way more games in the same timeframe

fascinating

If you had to estimate how many hours of playing poker you have invested, what would it be?

 

[bl0odyme5s]

Playing on the side while finishing my bachelor

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you lucky fucking bastard.