UPDATE: Cycle update, please help me all help is appreciated

[ifuckinghatemyself]

I greet you once again my beloved Pillers,

I apologize in advance if I have neglected some advice and ask once again for assistance, which would mean a lot to me, I mirror every single comment with appreciation and gratefulness. I´ve came to somewhat of an conclusion and im pretty "confident" in this cycle and would love to know your opinions.

HGH 6IU ED (IF plates r open, as Long as possible)
Tren E 50mg Monday and Thursday, 100mg Weekly, 8 Weeks
Test E 150mg Monday and Thursday, 300mg Weekly, 8 Weeks
Anavar 20mg ED, 10mg AM 10mg PM, 8 Weeks
AI (Arimidex) .5mg EOD, for the same lenght I take GH
TUDCA 500mg ED, Split into AM and PM (250mg each), 8 weeks
NAC 1200mg ED, Split into AM and PM (600 each), 8 Weeks


This cycle is to build a base, once im older ill probably use stuff like GHK-CU and/or accutane, still got no response from the Job Application I sent to the bakery but I sent two more out to LIDL, wish me luck guys (sorry for the unnecessary comment). I wouldnt have any problems with sticking to low dosages, since some were worried that I couldnt stick to it (thanks for worrying about me, means a lot) If some questions still lay open, feel free to ask and please stay kind to each other and face each other with respect and understanding, even if they talk absolute nonsense

Thank you for reading and I wish you guys the best, have a great rest of your day

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Here:

Dad 6'5, I'm 5'9 how do I reach potential??

Lurker here, debut post. Dad - 6'5 Mum - 5'7 Predicted height = ~6'2.5 (male obv) Me - 5'9 @just turned 17 Haven't grown since like fucking 13/14y/o Feels like I won genetic lottery with tall parents but my ticket is invalid or sum shit. I heard stories some people shoot up at 18/19/even...

looksmax.org

Disregard this dumbass sentence from me
"The reason I recommend non-steroidal AI is for two reasons:"

Did I understand right exemestane helps to faster bone fusion? Is Aromasin alr then or what do you recommend? Sorry if I understood your answer wrong

 

[Dave1]

You realise that non-steroidal AI is the only AI used in a clinical setting for delaying epiphyseal plate closure? The only reason you’d “bounce back” is if you hop off cold turkey, which people on non-steroidal know not to do.

i realize that but doesnt it pratically do the same thing?

 

[Dave1]

start mk till i can order gh and winstrol till 4 weeks pass yk?

yes i get it but winstrol will just make things more complicated i get u wanna feel something rn but dont do it
id say start mk677 when ur on AI since mk677 can also close ur plates a little faster esp with no AI
for now get AI ASAP and run that. also winstrol will shut ur test down

what pct would you recommend and for how long

keep in mind this PCT would be done in a couple years if done right. with today's options, i'd run enclo at 12.5mg for the first 2 weeks, thereafter running 25mg for up to 4 more weeks. only risk from PCT with this protocol is high estrogen but no problem with an AI

does the split matter?

not really just keep activity less than 4 days a week. and hit all those muscles in those days. when ur on test and everything ill help you gymmaxx ive been going gym for 3 years studying it aswell i got u

and can i also participate in any sporty activities during the week as well

like i said keep days that ur active less than 4 days a week.

and what can i expect at 50 yrs old?

ok so ur heart also has androgen receptors that test can bind to and grow. usually this isnt a problem since a natty person's test is normal but ur test is gonna be very high. this means over these couple years ur heart might grow a little bit. when ur 50 years old and ur heart is weaker this may take a toll and maybe give heart complications. but this shouldn't happen this is only a risk for people being on cycle for a total of like 5 to 10 years.

thank you bro

no problem

 

[Dave1]

Here:

Dad 6'5, I'm 5'9 how do I reach potential??

Lurker here, debut post. Dad - 6'5 Mum - 5'7 Predicted height = ~6'2.5 (male obv) Me - 5'9 @just turned 17 Haven't grown since like fucking 13/14y/o Feels like I won genetic lottery with tall parents but my ticket is invalid or sum shit. I heard stories some people shoot up at 18/19/even...

looksmax.org

Disregard this dumbass sentence from me
"The reason I recommend non-steroidal AI is for two reasons:"

actually you're right thanks for the info. i have no clue about non steroidal AI dosing tho can you let us know

 

[Dave1]

Did I understand right exemestane helps to faster bone fusion? Is Aromasin alr then or what do you recommend? Sorry if I understood your answer wrong

yes that's what it says, exemestane turns into something else in the body that can make ur plates grow faster. idk about non steroidal AI dosing we wait for aid's response

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

yes that's what it says, exemestane turns into something else in the body that can make ur plates grow faster. idk about non steroidal AI dosing we wait for aid's response

wait i was talking about plate fusion, youre saying plate growth or is it the same? yea lets wait

 

[aids]

yes that's what it says, exemestane turns into something else in the body that can make ur plates grow faster. idk about non steroidal AI dosing we wait for aid's response

Take the lowest possible dose until you reach saturation, maintain that dose for a week, get bloodwork, if your E2 is not ~15pg/mL then increase dose very slightly with the same protocol until you reach the dose that will allow you to maintain E2 levels of 15pg/mL or close to.

 

[aids]

glad to hear that

sorry for not giving context, i wouldnt be able to run hgh and test and var anytime soon maybe in 2-3 months and i would want to start mk till i can order gh and winstrol till 4 weeks pass yk?

Why are you running Winstrol? I’d only use it if you’re a sprinter. Otherwise, just stick with Anavar.

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Why are you running Winstrol? I’d only use it if you’re a sprinter. Otherwise, just stick with Anavar.

I wouldve wanted to use Winstrol to shred rn i lowk wanna reach a lower bf percentage but when i use my said stack ill use var

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Take the lowest possible dose until you reach saturation, maintain that dose for a week, get bloodwork, if your E2 is not ~15pg/mL then increase dose very slightly with the same protocol until you reach the dose that will allow you to maintain E2 levels of 15pg/mL or close to.

Bet thanks

 

[aids]

I wouldve wanted to use Winstrol to shred rn i lowk wanna reach a lower bf percentage but when i use my said stack ill use var

Dry =/ lean.
Yes winstrol helps but you can get lean without it.

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Dry =/ lean.
Yes winstrol helps but you can get lean without it.

Yes of course

 

[Dave1]

I wouldve wanted to use Winstrol to shred rn i lowk wanna reach a lower bf percentage but when i use my said stack ill use var

the 5mg var ED isnt going to cause much hypertrophy maybe the tiniest amount of leaning u out its mainly for height at this dose. run it for as long as ur on test

 

[Dave1]

wait i was talking about plate fusion, youre saying plate growth or is it the same? yea lets wait

plate fusion is where ur growth plates close so u cant grow anymore. idk wtf plate growth is lmao but its not significant here

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

plate fusion is where ur growth plates close so u cant grow anymore. idk wtf plate growth is lmao but its not significant here

I meant the opposite of plate fusion idk what it's called

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

the 5mg var ED isnt going to cause much hypertrophy maybe the tiniest amount of leaning u out its mainly for height at this dose. run it for as long as ur on test

Yeah I realized that I just wanted to take allat until I can order my first stack yk? It's summer vacation for me and I want to do a summer transition idk if I'm weird for that

 

[hayden_sub5]

I greet you once again my beloved Pillers,

I apologize in advance if I have neglected some advice and ask once again for assistance, which would mean a lot to me, I mirror every single comment with appreciation and gratefulness. I´ve came to somewhat of an conclusion and im pretty "confident" in this cycle and would love to know your opinions.

HGH 6IU ED (IF plates r open, as Long as possible)
Tren E 50mg Monday and Thursday, 100mg Weekly, 8 Weeks
Test E 150mg Monday and Thursday, 300mg Weekly, 8 Weeks
Anavar 20mg ED, 10mg AM 10mg PM, 8 Weeks
AI (Arimidex) .5mg EOD, for the same lenght I take GH
TUDCA 500mg ED, Split into AM and PM (250mg each), 8 weeks
NAC 1200mg ED, Split into AM and PM (600 each), 8 Weeks


This cycle is to build a base, once im older ill probably use stuff like GHK-CU and/or accutane, still got no response from the Job Application I sent to the bakery but I sent two more out to LIDL, wish me luck guys (sorry for the unnecessary comment). I wouldnt have any problems with sticking to low dosages, since some were worried that I couldnt stick to it (thanks for worrying about me, means a lot) If some questions still lay open, feel free to ask and please stay kind to each other and face each other with respect and understanding, even if they talk absolute nonsense

Thank you for reading and I wish you guys the best, have a great rest of your day

Ballsy stack for someone young, I’m mirin the tism. Drop the tren, change to primo or mast. Good on the test/hgh tho.
Pm me face/physique if your comfy. I’m curious

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Ballsy stack for someone young, I’m mirin the tism. Drop the tren, change to primo or mast. Good on the test/hgh tho.

What does primo/mast do? And why would it be a better substitute

Pm me face/physique if your comfy. I’m curious

I'm prob gonna get doxxed lowkey I'll prob do a Before/after when I'm somewhat done, maybe I'll get comfortable with it one day but not currently

 

[hayden_sub5]

What does primo/mast do? And why would it be a better substitute


I'm prob gonna get doxxed lowkey I'll prob do a Before/after when I'm somewhat done, maybe I'll get comfortable with it one day but not currently

Primo gives amazing lean gains and is well tolerated among most users. You can run it much higher than your tren with less sides. And the likelyhood of getting doxxed is fairly low especially if you don’t get a name on the site. Mfers don’t just go around leaking info like people on tiktok say lol

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Primo gives amazing lean gains and is well tolerated among most users. You can run it much higher than your tren with less sides. And the likelyhood of getting doxxed is fairly low especially if you don’t get a name on the site. Mfers don’t just go around leaking info like people on tiktok say lol

I think somewhere in the replies are a new draft for a possible cycle I can't seem to find it could you maybe look into that and give me feedback?

 

[Dave1]

I meant the opposite of plate fusion idk what it's called

delaying plate fusion basically

Yeah I realized that I just wanted to take allat until I can order my first stack yk? It's summer vacation for me and I want to do a summer transition idk if I'm weird for that

maybe a little weird but no biggie. i'd say just gymmax for now if u want something. u could start anavar at 5mg rn since its gonna be only a lil supressive but hop on test asap after anavar.

What does primo/mast do? And why would it be a better substitute

u dont need primo and mast for ur goals, my stack is much simpler and maybe safer. indulge in these AAS after you've completed heightmaxxing we dont want to introduce a compound that we dont know the effect of on plates.

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

delaying plate fusion basically

maybe a little weird but no biggie. i'd say just gymmax for now if u want something. u could start anavar at 5mg rn since its gonna be only a lil supressive but hop on test asap after anavar.

u dont need primo and mast for ur goals, my stack is much simpler and maybe safer. indulge in these AAS after you've completed heightmaxxing we dont want to introduce a compound that we dont know the effect of on plates.

My plug doesnt have AI in stock, dyk any other reliable sources where I can buy the stuff from? And it would be even better if its affordable

 

[psl_]

bump please someone help

don’t use tren brother its not worth it

 

[Schizomogger]

Where did you source your products? Dont get some contaminated underdosed chinese bullshit

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Where did you source your products? Dont get some contaminated underdosed chinese bullshit

Didn't buy anything yet but I have a discord with lab proven work, and I've heard so many controversial stuff about Chinese stuff, why can't I buy from there if they have test results? What other site would you recommend me ordering the stuff?

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

don’t use tren brother its not worth it

Im cutting tren out thank you

 

[Schizomogger]

Didn't buy anything yet but I have a discord with lab proven work, and I've heard so many controversial stuff about Chinese stuff, why can't I buy from there if they have test results? What other site would you recommend me ordering the stuff?

I personally recommend (which you probably wont want to do) staying completely natural, your future self would thank you. Even for height, real prescription grade HGH is expensive as fuck and many only gain 1-2 inches max from it if that even was from the HGH

 

[Will_381231]

I wouldve wanted to use Winstrol to shred rn i lowk wanna reach a lower bf percentage but when i use my said stack ill use var

dude theres so many better options. winstrol won't help a lot with "fat loss" thats a misconception, its only added by bodybuilders to dry them out before a show. its a horrible mass builder option, your joint will hurt, and its liver toxic.

also doing a 8 week cycle of 300mg test is retarded imo

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

dude theres so many better options. winstrol won't help a lot with "fat loss" thats a misconception, its only added by bodybuilders to dry them out before a show. its a horrible mass builder option, your joint will hurt, and its liver toxic.

what would be the better alternative

also doing a 8 week cycle of 300mg test is retarded imo

alr thanks

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

I personally recommend (which you probably wont want to do) staying completely natural, your future self would thank you. Even for height, real prescription grade HGH is expensive as fuck and many only gain 1-2 inches max from it if that even was from the HGH

why would you recommend me staying natural? I´ve got another website claiming they got Pharma grade GH

 

[Dot1]

I greet you once again my beloved Pillers,

I apologize in advance if I have neglected some advice and ask once again for assistance, which would mean a lot to me, I mirror every single comment with appreciation and gratefulness. I´ve came to somewhat of an conclusion and im pretty "confident" in this cycle and would love to know your opinions.

HGH 6IU ED (IF plates r open, as Long as possible)
Tren E 50mg Monday and Thursday, 100mg Weekly, 8 Weeks
Test E 150mg Monday and Thursday, 300mg Weekly, 8 Weeks
Anavar 20mg ED, 10mg AM 10mg PM, 8 Weeks
AI (Arimidex) .5mg EOD, for the same lenght I take GH
TUDCA 500mg ED, Split into AM and PM (250mg each), 8 weeks
NAC 1200mg ED, Split into AM and PM (600 each), 8 Weeks


This cycle is to build a base, once im older ill probably use stuff like GHK-CU and/or accutane, still got no response from the Job Application I sent to the bakery but I sent two more out to LIDL, wish me luck guys (sorry for the unnecessary comment). I wouldnt have any problems with sticking to low dosages, since some were worried that I couldnt stick to it (thanks for worrying about me, means a lot) If some questions still lay open, feel free to ask and please stay kind to each other and face each other with respect and understanding, even if they talk absolute nonsense

Thank you for reading and I wish you guys the best, have a great rest of your day

@chadisbeingmade help him with ur high iq

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

@chadisbeingmade help him with ur high iq

New Cycle:
HGH 8IU ED (IF plates r open, as Long as possible)
Test C 100mg Monday and Thursday, 200mg Weekly, permanently
Anavar 5mg ED, for the same lenght I take GH
AI (Aromasin) 12.5mg EOD, for the same lenght I take GH
Hcg, 250IU, EOD, permanently


My Intention with this cycle:
My hopes are to achieve more dimorphism, improve my frame in height as well as width and just increase overall bonemass and appeal hopefully as well

I would really appreciate any help it would mean so incredibly much, thanks in advance

 

[Dave1]

My plug doesnt have AI in stock, dyk any other reliable sources where I can buy the stuff from? And it would be even better if its affordable

PMs

 

[exire]

no tren lmao. just up the dose of testosterone. more var. tren is not height safe

how is it not height safe? it it cz its progesteronic?

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

I´ve been also thinking about adding T3,T4 and IGF-1 LR3, any thoughts?

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

I´ve been also thinking about adding T3,T4 and IGF-1 LR3, any thoughts?

@Dave1 maybe you could tell me anything about it

 

[Dave1]

@Dave1 maybe you could tell me anything about it

u could add in igf1 lr3. it's what hgh is converted to in the body. t3 and t4 are thyroid hormones, basically they regulate ur metabolism. most people dont need them. igf1 lr3 is really good for muscle mass aswell.

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

u could add in igf1 lr3. it's what hgh is converted to in the body. t3 and t4 are thyroid hormones, basically they regulate ur metabolism. most people dont need them. igf1 lr3 is really good for muscle mass aswell.

would you recommend igf1 lr3? ive read that it could be a good addition but isnt necessary. would it make a difference if i started taking? yea forget the t3 and t4 ive read you can seriously fuck up stuff

 

[iblameautistickids]

wheres ur lipid and blood pressure support, but out of curiosity what have u noticed ur whole time roiding that young, also buy ru58841 to protect urself from hairloss (finasteride/dutasteride wont save u from the hairloss from tren and var)

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

wheres ur lipid and blood pressure support, but out of curiosity what have u noticed ur whole time roiding that young, also buy ru58841 to protect urself from hairloss (finasteride/dutasteride wont save u from the hairloss from tren and var)

I didnt roid yet thats the thing im still building my cycle, can I really trust ru58841? And isnt there only a risk of hair loss if I already have signs? current "idea" of cycle is following:
HGH 8IU ED (IF plates r open, as Long as possible)
Test C 100mg Monday and Thursday, 200mg Weekly, permanently
Anavar 5mg ED, for the same lenght I take GH
AI (Aromasin) 12.5mg EOD, for the same lenght I take GH
Hcg, 250IU, EOD, for the same lenght I take test

 

[Dave1]

ru58841

it prevents balding. with ur cycle it isn't very hair agressive i doubt you'd need that.

bro get a growth plate scan asap tho. and also cop aromasin like first thing since we wanna slow down plates closing

furthermore, if ur plates ARE closed u need a completely different cycle if ur only goal is muscle n shit

 

[Dave1]

.

 

[Dave1]

yea forget the t3 and t4 ive read you can seriously fuck up stuff

yeah u kinda can plus its unncessery here

 

[Dave1]

ive read that it could be a good addition but isnt necessary. would it make a difference if i started taking?

if u want to add in igf1 lr3 u could if u can afford it

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

it prevents balding. with ur cycle it isn't very hair agressive i doubt you'd need that.

bro get a growth plate scan asap tho. and also cop aromasin like first thing since we wanna slow down plates closing

furthermore, if ur plates ARE closed u need a completely different cycle if ur only goal is muscle n shit

bro im looking for jobs like crazy and considering I dont even have a bank account paying for stuff is an issue

 

[Dave1]

bro im looking for jobs like crazy and considering I dont even have a bank account paying for stuff is an issue

aint no way u got me building u a cycle for a couple weeks and u can't even buy it

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

aint no way u got me building u a cycle for a couple weeks and u can't even buy it

im sorry bro im really trying my best to afford it please forgive me

 

[Dave1]

im sorry bro im really trying my best to afford it please forgive me

broo dont worry about it lmfao even if u cant get it others will see this and use my info

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

broo dont worry about it lmfao even if u cant get it others will see this and use my info

youre a good guy

 

[Dave1]

youre a good guy

i know