UPDATE: Cycle update, please help me all help is appreciated

[ifuckinghatemyself]

I greet you once again my beloved Pillers,

I apologize in advance if I have neglected some advice and ask once again for assistance, which would mean a lot to me, I mirror every single comment with appreciation and gratefulness. I´ve came to somewhat of an conclusion and im pretty "confident" in this cycle and would love to know your opinions.

HGH 6IU ED (IF plates r open, as Long as possible)
Tren E 50mg Monday and Thursday, 100mg Weekly, 8 Weeks
Test E 150mg Monday and Thursday, 300mg Weekly, 8 Weeks
Anavar 20mg ED, 10mg AM 10mg PM, 8 Weeks
AI (Arimidex) .5mg EOD, for the same lenght I take GH
TUDCA 500mg ED, Split into AM and PM (250mg each), 8 weeks
NAC 1200mg ED, Split into AM and PM (600 each), 8 Weeks


This cycle is to build a base, once im older ill probably use stuff like GHK-CU and/or accutane, still got no response from the Job Application I sent to the bakery but I sent two more out to LIDL, wish me luck guys (sorry for the unnecessary comment). I wouldnt have any problems with sticking to low dosages, since some were worried that I couldnt stick to it (thanks for worrying about me, means a lot) If some questions still lay open, feel free to ask and please stay kind to each other and face each other with respect and understanding, even if they talk absolute nonsense

Thank you for reading and I wish you guys the best, have a great rest of your day

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

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Dad 6'5, I'm 5'9 how do I reach potential??

Lurker here, debut post. Dad - 6'5 Mum - 5'7 Predicted height = ~6'2.5 (male obv) Me - 5'9 @just turned 17 Haven't grown since like fucking 13/14y/o Feels like I won genetic lottery with tall parents but my ticket is invalid or sum shit. I heard stories some people shoot up at 18/19/even...

looksmax.org

Disregard this dumbass sentence from me
"The reason I recommend non-steroidal AI is for two reasons:"

Did I understand right exemestane helps to faster bone fusion? Is Aromasin alr then or what do you recommend? Sorry if I understood your answer wrong

 

[Dave1]

You realise that non-steroidal AI is the only AI used in a clinical setting for delaying epiphyseal plate closure? The only reason you’d “bounce back” is if you hop off cold turkey, which people on non-steroidal know not to do.

i realize that but doesnt it pratically do the same thing?

 

[Dave1]

start mk till i can order gh and winstrol till 4 weeks pass yk?

yes i get it but winstrol will just make things more complicated i get u wanna feel something rn but dont do it
id say start mk677 when ur on AI since mk677 can also close ur plates a little faster esp with no AI
for now get AI ASAP and run that. also winstrol will shut ur test down

what pct would you recommend and for how long

keep in mind this PCT would be done in a couple years if done right. with today's options, i'd run enclo at 12.5mg for the first 2 weeks, thereafter running 25mg for up to 4 more weeks. only risk from PCT with this protocol is high estrogen but no problem with an AI

does the split matter?

not really just keep activity less than 4 days a week. and hit all those muscles in those days. when ur on test and everything ill help you gymmaxx ive been going gym for 3 years studying it aswell i got u

and can i also participate in any sporty activities during the week as well

like i said keep days that ur active less than 4 days a week.

and what can i expect at 50 yrs old?

ok so ur heart also has androgen receptors that test can bind to and grow. usually this isnt a problem since a natty person's test is normal but ur test is gonna be very high. this means over these couple years ur heart might grow a little bit. when ur 50 years old and ur heart is weaker this may take a toll and maybe give heart complications. but this shouldn't happen this is only a risk for people being on cycle for a total of like 5 to 10 years.

thank you bro

no problem

 

[Dave1]

Here:

Dad 6'5, I'm 5'9 how do I reach potential??

Lurker here, debut post. Dad - 6'5 Mum - 5'7 Predicted height = ~6'2.5 (male obv) Me - 5'9 @just turned 17 Haven't grown since like fucking 13/14y/o Feels like I won genetic lottery with tall parents but my ticket is invalid or sum shit. I heard stories some people shoot up at 18/19/even...

looksmax.org

Disregard this dumbass sentence from me
"The reason I recommend non-steroidal AI is for two reasons:"

actually you're right thanks for the info. i have no clue about non steroidal AI dosing tho can you let us know

 

[Dave1]

Did I understand right exemestane helps to faster bone fusion? Is Aromasin alr then or what do you recommend? Sorry if I understood your answer wrong

yes that's what it says, exemestane turns into something else in the body that can make ur plates grow faster. idk about non steroidal AI dosing we wait for aid's response

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

yes that's what it says, exemestane turns into something else in the body that can make ur plates grow faster. idk about non steroidal AI dosing we wait for aid's response

wait i was talking about plate fusion, youre saying plate growth or is it the same? yea lets wait

 

[aids]

yes that's what it says, exemestane turns into something else in the body that can make ur plates grow faster. idk about non steroidal AI dosing we wait for aid's response

Take the lowest possible dose until you reach saturation, maintain that dose for a week, get bloodwork, if your E2 is not ~15pg/mL then increase dose very slightly with the same protocol until you reach the dose that will allow you to maintain E2 levels of 15pg/mL or close to.

 

[aids]

glad to hear that

sorry for not giving context, i wouldnt be able to run hgh and test and var anytime soon maybe in 2-3 months and i would want to start mk till i can order gh and winstrol till 4 weeks pass yk?

Why are you running Winstrol? I’d only use it if you’re a sprinter. Otherwise, just stick with Anavar.

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Why are you running Winstrol? I’d only use it if you’re a sprinter. Otherwise, just stick with Anavar.

I wouldve wanted to use Winstrol to shred rn i lowk wanna reach a lower bf percentage but when i use my said stack ill use var

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Take the lowest possible dose until you reach saturation, maintain that dose for a week, get bloodwork, if your E2 is not ~15pg/mL then increase dose very slightly with the same protocol until you reach the dose that will allow you to maintain E2 levels of 15pg/mL or close to.

Bet thanks

 

[aids]

I wouldve wanted to use Winstrol to shred rn i lowk wanna reach a lower bf percentage but when i use my said stack ill use var

Dry =/ lean.
Yes winstrol helps but you can get lean without it.

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Dry =/ lean.
Yes winstrol helps but you can get lean without it.

Yes of course