URGENT: Get These Two Dogshit Threads Out of BOTB Before Someone Gets Hurt - An analysis of Pnuemo's RAD140 Thread + Another SARM BOTB Thread

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I've been meaning to make this thread for a while now, I've been reading both over and over to try and see if there's something I'm not getting but these are clearly subclass and frankly, dangerous threads. BOTB is meant to be a place where any user can go and find near surefire ways to improve their looks, health, and most importantly, their knowledge, not a game of roulette where someone who is uninformed could easily mess up their looks, health, and future instantly.

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Thread #1: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-put-on-12kg-of-muscle-in-6-weeks-an-intro-to-rad-140.682718/ by Pneumo (Now deleted.)

Overall Analysis: This is a terrible thread. I don't care how much of "muh forum legend" pnuemo was, RAD140 (and all SARMS) are dangerous, toxic, and frankly weak compounds that are absolutely useless. There is approximately ZERO advantage of doing any SARM. Let's get into this.

Pneumo claims that he gained 12 KG (26 pounds) of muscle from a mere 6 week cycle of a compound of RAD140, a SARM (selective androgen receptor module.) He didn't get bloodwork done. This is what he said was his reasoning for doing a SARM over steroids.
So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.
Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES
DRAWBACKS
Increased muscle growth​
Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​
Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​
Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​
Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​
Acne​
Increased endurance​
Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
Liver and other organ damage

I never knew Pneumo, nor do I know or care about any of his threads. However just from this we can see that this dude has no idea what he's talking about and clearly just searched up "best gym supplement to gain lots of muscle with no side effects" and clicked the first youtube video that came up on it. RAD-140 (and all SARMS) have a terrible rep in any serious bodybuilding space because of how shitty they are as compounds. SARMs just fundamentally aren't very good drugs, they are desinged to be more anabolic then steroids without the downsides but actually still cause a lot of secondary male characteristics like traditional anabolic steroids and they aren't as good at building muscle.


Here are the ACTUAL risks to RAD-140.

- Extremely Suppressive, about as much as a mild steroid (which almost all of are better for you than this god awful compound.)
- No knowledge on long term side effects
- More of a glorified head shining tool, is not anymore hair safe than ANY steroid

- Acne
- Significantly hepatoxic and neurotoxic

The last one of these is the most important out of all of them. Why?

RAD-140 is so toxic to the body that you cannot run it for a long enough period of time for it to accumulate actual muscle that you are going to keep. You WILL lose ALL of your gains off of a RAD-140 cycle because nearly 0% of it is actual, quality muscle.

Just off of that, RAD-140 (and the rest of the thread) is total void. Pneumo himself literally says that he had to hop off early due to the extreme sides he was feeling
(something you just wouldn't feel on nearly any decent roid.) How on earth did this thread get into BOTB? :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:


This thread has over 156,000 views, and hundreds of likes and is one of the most active BOTB threads to this day. Imagine how many people have potentially been hurt using this dogshit compound. The thread is extremely persuasive and paints the perfect image for an insecure teenager looking to better themselves, a perfect compound that gets them significant results in a short period of time without any significant Unfortunately out of the two threads, this is the better one. Let's get into the next one.
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Thread #2: https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-on-sarms-from-coach-with-5-years-of-experience.75412/ by 2000lbclub (random grifter clearly trying to make money)

Overall Analysis: How on earth did this life hazard of a thread get into BOTB? This entire thing is full of blatant misinformation specifically targeted to grift off of insecurecels on .org. Lets get into every lie here.
2. The severity of side-effects are much lower. For example, testosterone, a steroid, has an anabolic/androgenic ratio of 100:100. Rad140 has an anabolic/androgenic ratio of 90:1. Androgenic are the chemicals that cause side-effects (hair loss, acne), while anabolic chemicals promotes muscle growth. This gives insane gains without any long-term risks.

This is blatantly wrong, there is no evidence to prove that there is less side effects or no long term risks, in fact it's more of the opposite. RAD-140 is extremely unpredictable and a terrible compound as we said.

This next thing is possibly the most dangerous piece of misinformation I've ever stumbled across on this entire forum.
3. Its taken orally, so there are no injections plus no need for PCT, or AI (a pussy reason but makes a difference to some people)

No Need for PCT? What? This will literally kill your reproductive system. You'll be lucky if your dick doesn't fall off if you don't take PCT after RAD140, how on earth did this death tier thread get into BOTB? This could literally end someone's entire life.

4. Potentially increase height (Sarms suppress your hormones, since the androgen binds with androgen receptors to mimic the effect of testosterone. You won't feel low T, but estrogen is suppressed, delaying epiphyseal plate or growth plate closure, increasing the time you can grow)

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Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height? What the hell is he talking about? Were the mods and admins back then blind? Did this dude pay his way into BOTB? This entire shit is a mystery. It just goes downhill after this too.
5. Jaw/shoulder/browridge growth: Since SARMS are selective to muscle and bone, it increases bone growth. However, it is selective to dimorphic traits influenced by testosterone. Thus, bones influenced by estrogen such as hips will grow less causing the development of wide shoulders while hips remain relatively the same.

Wrong, there is zero solid evidence to prove actual steroids improve bones, let along some random supplement. Here's an entire BOTB thread debunking the "steroid for bones" claim if you're interested: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/
6. Changes in Fat distribution: Gynoid or estrogenic fat distribution stores fat in thighs and Breast, while Andriod fat distribution (high t) stores it in Abdomen, Chest, Shoulder and neck. This happens because of Estrogen suppression.

I have no clue what he's talking about, and he's wrong. Next.
7. Prevent hair loss: By suppressing systemic Testosterone levels in the body and competing with Testosterone and DHT for the androgen receptor, androgenic activity in the body is substantially decreased. Suppressing DHT could act similar to Fin and decrease or even reverse hair loss.
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RAD-140 will never in a billion years prevent hair loss. This dude is just lying. Biggest grifter in the history of the world JFL :lul::lul: RAD-140 is a hair vacuum, as previously stated, it's more of a glorified hair shining tool. There's people that take low doses of roids with fin/dut and still lose their hair. RAD-140 will eviscerate your hair follicles.

The rest of the thread is just total slop and a minor training regimen to appear legit. Worst thread I've ever read on this forum, 0/10.


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TL;DR: RAD-140 (and ALL sarms) are terrible substances that will destroy your hair, your health, and your life. You will keep 0% of the gains on RAD-140 and the gains are still majorly inferior to any gains made on even the mildest steroids. You are literally giving up your health, looks, and mental state for absolutely no reason besides being mentally masturbated by the idea of there being some miracle compound that gives you everything you want without any big sides.

One minor thing some users may want to bring up is that Clavicular also ran a RAD-140 cycle for 16 weeks and this is what I have to say to that:

Clavicular is an idiot and destroyed his health and its a miracle his penis is still intact.

This is not an anti-roiding thread, I am 100% for steroids. These compounds are just useless, dangerous, and give weak results. If you want actual good threads for steroids, consider these:


@SlayerJonas @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal @Chad @Ghost Philosophy get both of these threads out of BOTB please before we get a confirmed case of someone having their dick fall off from these terrible threads. And if possible, pin this for a bit so users know not to use these terrible compounds. I don't care about the rep. The safety of the userbase is essential.
 
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dnr :forcedsmile:
 
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take a second bump too actually
 
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I've been meaning to make this thread for a while now, I've been reading both over and over to try and see if there's something I'm not getting but these are clearly subclass and frankly, dangerous threads. BOTB is meant to be a place where any user can go and find near surefire ways to improve their looks, health, and most importantly, their knowledge, not a game of roulette where someone who is uninformed could easily mess up their looks, health, and future instantly.

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Thread #1: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-put-on-12kg-of-muscle-in-6-weeks-an-intro-to-rad-140.682718/ by Pneumo (Now deleted.)

Overall Analysis: This is a terrible thread. I don't care how much of "muh forum legend" pnuemo was, RAD140 (and all SARMS) are dangerous, toxic, and frankly weak compounds that are absolutely useless. There is approximately ZERO advantage of doing any SARM. Let's get into this.

Pneumo claims that he gained 12 KG (26 pounds) of muscle from a mere 6 week cycle of a compound of RAD140, a SARM (selective androgen receptor module.) He didn't get bloodwork done. This is what he said was his reasoning for doing a SARM over steroids.


I never knew Pneumo, nor do I know or care about any of his threads. However just from this we can see that this dude has no idea what he's talking about and clearly just searched up "best gym supplement to gain lots of muscle with no side effects" and clicked the first youtube video that came up on it. RAD-140 (and all SARMS) have a terrible rep in any serious bodybuilding space because of how shitty they are as compounds. SARMs just fundamentally aren't very good drugs, they are desinged to be more anabolic then steroids without the downsides but actually still cause a lot of secondary male characteristics like traditional anabolic steroids and they aren't as good at building muscle.


Here are the ACTUAL risks to RAD-140.

- Extremely Suppressive, about as much as a mild steroid (which almost all of are better for you than this god awful compound.)
- No knowledge on long term side effects
- More of a glorified head shining tool, is not anymore hair safe than ANY steroid

- Acne
- Significantly hepatoxic and neurotoxic

The last one of these is the most important out of all of them. Why?

RAD-140 is so toxic to the body that you cannot run it for a long enough period of time for it to accumulate actual muscle that you are going to keep. You WILL lose ALL of your gains off of a RAD-140 cycle because nearly 0% of it is actual, quality muscle.

Just off of that, RAD-140 (and the rest of the thread) is total void. Pneumo himself literally says that he had to hop off early due to the extreme sides he was feeling
(something you just wouldn't feel on nearly any decent roid.) How on earth did this thread get into BOTB? :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:


This thread has over 156,000 views, and hundreds of likes and is one of the most active BOTB threads to this day. Imagine how many people have potentially been hurt using this dogshit compound. The thread is extremely persuasive and paints the perfect image for an insecure teenager looking to better themselves, a perfect compound that gets them significant results in a short period of time without any significant Unfortunately out of the two threads, this is the better one. Let's get into the next one.
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Thread #2: https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-on-sarms-from-coach-with-5-years-of-experience.75412/ by 2000lbclub (random grifter clearly trying to make money)

Overall Analysis: How on earth did this life hazard of a thread get into BOTB? This entire thing is full of blatant misinformation specifically targeted to grift off of insecurecels on .org. Lets get into every lie here.


This is blatantly wrong, there is no evidence to prove that there is less side effects or no long term risks, in fact it's more of the opposite. RAD-140 is extremely unpredictable and a terrible compound as we said.

This next thing is possibly the most dangerous piece of misinformation I've ever stumbled across on this entire forum.


No Need for PCT? What? This will literally kill your reproductive system. You'll be lucky if your dick doesn't fall off if you don't take PCT after RAD140, how on earth did this death tier thread get into BOTB? This could literally end someone's entire life.



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Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height? What the hell is he talking about? Were the mods and admins back then blind? Did this dude pay his way into BOTB? This entire shit is a mystery. It just goes downhill after this too.


Wrong, there is zero solid evidence to prove actual steroids improve bones, let along some random supplement. Here's an entire BOTB thread debunking the "steroid for bones" claim if you're interested: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/


I have no clue what he's talking about, and he's wrong. Next.

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RAD-140 will never in a billion years prevent hair loss. This dude is just lying. Biggest grifter in the history of the world JFL :lul::lul: RAD-140 is a hair vacuum, as previously stated, it's more of a glorified hair shining tool. There's people that take low doses of roids with fin/dut and still lose their hair. RAD-140 will eviscerate your hair follicles.

The rest of the thread is just total slop and a minor training regimen to appear legit. Worst thread I've ever read on this forum, 0/10.


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TL;DR: RAD-140 (and ALL sarms) are terrible substances that will destroy your hair, your health, and your life. You will keep 0% of the gains on RAD-140 and the gains are still majorly inferior to any gains made on even the mildest steroids. You are literally giving up your health, looks, and mental state for absolutely no reason besides being mentally masturbated by the idea of there being some miracle compound that gives you everything you want without any big sides.

One minor thing some users may want to bring up is that Clavicular also ran a RAD-140 cycle for 16 weeks and this is what I have to say to that:

Clavicular is an idiot and destroyed his health and its a miracle his penis is still intact.

If you want actual good threads for steroids, consider these:


@SlayerJonas @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal @Chad @Ghost Philosophy get both of these threads out of BOTB please before we get a confirmed case of someone having their dick fall off from these terrible threads.
dnr thread but read title and absolutely agree
 
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not true. i used rad-140 for 4 months and i gained cancer so it clearly works.
 
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crazy talking about shit botb threads without mentioning the infamous flaming garbage thread
Misinformation (although sometimes true) vs Actively dangerous threads. Nobody is gonna be hurt from being told that they are recessed, most of the forum is.
It won't get tooken down.
Trying and failing is better than not trying at all, at the very least it'll get out to some people and maybe help a few users, even if nobody is helped, it is worth it.
not true. i used rad-140 for 4 months and i gained cancer so it clearly works.
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Misinformation (although sometimes true) vs Actively dangerous thread. Nobody is gonna be hurt from being told that they are recessed, most of the forum is.

Trying and failing is better than not trying at all, at the very least it'll get out to some people and maybe help a few users, even if nobody is helped, it is worth it.

Mirin.

@Pony @AverageCurryEnjoyer @estonianslayerr @mcmentalonthemic (welcome back) @Sadist
tbh i just think the mods are lazy and dont bother researching whether its disinformation or not because they don't wanna get backlash from og users who remember the threads
 
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Misinformation (although sometimes true) vs Actively dangerous thread. Nobody is gonna be hurt from being told that they are recessed, most of the forum is.
I feel like theres nothing wrong with the info in thread. its just pure water.
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I think everyone and their mom already knows recessed=less defined face
 
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@Chad @SlayerJonas i agree. thoughts? (although i already know your thoughts on this:lul:)
 
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I've been meaning to make this thread for a while now, I've been reading both over and over to try and see if there's something I'm not getting but these are clearly subclass and frankly, dangerous threads. BOTB is meant to be a place where any user can go and find near surefire ways to improve their looks, health, and most importantly, their knowledge, not a game of roulette where someone who is uninformed could easily mess up their looks, health, and future instantly.

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Thread #1: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-put-on-12kg-of-muscle-in-6-weeks-an-intro-to-rad-140.682718/ by Pneumo (Now deleted.)

Overall Analysis: This is a terrible thread. I don't care how much of "muh forum legend" pnuemo was, RAD140 (and all SARMS) are dangerous, toxic, and frankly weak compounds that are absolutely useless. There is approximately ZERO advantage of doing any SARM. Let's get into this.

Pneumo claims that he gained 12 KG (26 pounds) of muscle from a mere 6 week cycle of a compound of RAD140, a SARM (selective androgen receptor module.) He didn't get bloodwork done. This is what he said was his reasoning for doing a SARM over steroids.


I never knew Pneumo, nor do I know or care about any of his threads. However just from this we can see that this dude has no idea what he's talking about and clearly just searched up "best gym supplement to gain lots of muscle with no side effects" and clicked the first youtube video that came up on it. RAD-140 (and all SARMS) have a terrible rep in any serious bodybuilding space because of how shitty they are as compounds. SARMs just fundamentally aren't very good drugs, they are desinged to be more anabolic then steroids without the downsides but actually still cause a lot of secondary male characteristics like traditional anabolic steroids and they aren't as good at building muscle.


Here are the ACTUAL risks to RAD-140.

- Extremely Suppressive, about as much as a mild steroid (which almost all of are better for you than this god awful compound.)
- No knowledge on long term side effects
- More of a glorified head shining tool, is not anymore hair safe than ANY steroid

- Acne
- Significantly hepatoxic and neurotoxic

The last one of these is the most important out of all of them. Why?

RAD-140 is so toxic to the body that you cannot run it for a long enough period of time for it to accumulate actual muscle that you are going to keep. You WILL lose ALL of your gains off of a RAD-140 cycle because nearly 0% of it is actual, quality muscle.

Just off of that, RAD-140 (and the rest of the thread) is total void. Pneumo himself literally says that he had to hop off early due to the extreme sides he was feeling
(something you just wouldn't feel on nearly any decent roid.) How on earth did this thread get into BOTB? :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:


This thread has over 156,000 views, and hundreds of likes and is one of the most active BOTB threads to this day. Imagine how many people have potentially been hurt using this dogshit compound. The thread is extremely persuasive and paints the perfect image for an insecure teenager looking to better themselves, a perfect compound that gets them significant results in a short period of time without any significant Unfortunately out of the two threads, this is the better one. Let's get into the next one.
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Thread #2: https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-on-sarms-from-coach-with-5-years-of-experience.75412/ by 2000lbclub (random grifter clearly trying to make money)

Overall Analysis: How on earth did this life hazard of a thread get into BOTB? This entire thing is full of blatant misinformation specifically targeted to grift off of insecurecels on .org. Lets get into every lie here.


This is blatantly wrong, there is no evidence to prove that there is less side effects or no long term risks, in fact it's more of the opposite. RAD-140 is extremely unpredictable and a terrible compound as we said.

This next thing is possibly the most dangerous piece of misinformation I've ever stumbled across on this entire forum.


No Need for PCT? What? This will literally kill your reproductive system. You'll be lucky if your dick doesn't fall off if you don't take PCT after RAD140, how on earth did this death tier thread get into BOTB? This could literally end someone's entire life.



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Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height? What the hell is he talking about? Were the mods and admins back then blind? Did this dude pay his way into BOTB? This entire shit is a mystery. It just goes downhill after this too.


Wrong, there is zero solid evidence to prove actual steroids improve bones, let along some random supplement. Here's an entire BOTB thread debunking the "steroid for bones" claim if you're interested: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/


I have no clue what he's talking about, and he's wrong. Next.

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RAD-140 will never in a billion years prevent hair loss. This dude is just lying. Biggest grifter in the history of the world JFL :lul::lul: RAD-140 is a hair vacuum, as previously stated, it's more of a glorified hair shining tool. There's people that take low doses of roids with fin/dut and still lose their hair. RAD-140 will eviscerate your hair follicles.

The rest of the thread is just total slop and a minor training regimen to appear legit. Worst thread I've ever read on this forum, 0/10.


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TL;DR: RAD-140 (and ALL sarms) are terrible substances that will destroy your hair, your health, and your life. You will keep 0% of the gains on RAD-140 and the gains are still majorly inferior to any gains made on even the mildest steroids. You are literally giving up your health, looks, and mental state for absolutely no reason besides being mentally masturbated by the idea of there being some miracle compound that gives you everything you want without any big sides.

One minor thing some users may want to bring up is that Clavicular also ran a RAD-140 cycle for 16 weeks and this is what I have to say to that:

Clavicular is an idiot and destroyed his health and its a miracle his penis is still intact.

This is not an anti-roiding thread, I am 100% for steroids. These compounds are just useless, dangerous, and give weak results. If you want actual good threads for steroids, consider these:


@SlayerJonas @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal @Chad @Ghost Philosophy get both of these threads out of BOTB please before we get a confirmed case of someone having their dick fall off from these terrible threads. And if possible, pin this for a bit so users know not to use these terrible compounds. I don't care about the rep. The safety of the userbase is essential.
Bumping this amazing thread, I always cage at the sarms thread in botb
 
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W mans looking out for the safety of naive people on this forum
 
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Sarms are trash but they aren’t as dangerous as you make it out to be. Most popular ones were and are still studied extensively and we have plenty of human research on them.

Also they can actually be pretty beneficial as an additional compound with a test base.
 
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Also, most sarms aren’t actually sarms at all. They are laced prohormones. That’s another issue.
JFL if you believe some random single spectrometry
 
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I've been meaning to make this thread for a while now, I've been reading both over and over to try and see if there's something I'm not getting but these are clearly subclass and frankly, dangerous threads. BOTB is meant to be a place where any user can go and find near surefire ways to improve their looks, health, and most importantly, their knowledge, not a game of roulette where someone who is uninformed could easily mess up their looks, health, and future instantly.

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Thread #1: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-put-on-12kg-of-muscle-in-6-weeks-an-intro-to-rad-140.682718/ by Pneumo (Now deleted.)

Overall Analysis: This is a terrible thread. I don't care how much of "muh forum legend" pnuemo was, RAD140 (and all SARMS) are dangerous, toxic, and frankly weak compounds that are absolutely useless. There is approximately ZERO advantage of doing any SARM. Let's get into this.

Pneumo claims that he gained 12 KG (26 pounds) of muscle from a mere 6 week cycle of a compound of RAD140, a SARM (selective androgen receptor module.) He didn't get bloodwork done. This is what he said was his reasoning for doing a SARM over steroids.


I never knew Pneumo, nor do I know or care about any of his threads. However just from this we can see that this dude has no idea what he's talking about and clearly just searched up "best gym supplement to gain lots of muscle with no side effects" and clicked the first youtube video that came up on it. RAD-140 (and all SARMS) have a terrible rep in any serious bodybuilding space because of how shitty they are as compounds. SARMs just fundamentally aren't very good drugs, they are desinged to be more anabolic then steroids without the downsides but actually still cause a lot of secondary male characteristics like traditional anabolic steroids and they aren't as good at building muscle.


Here are the ACTUAL risks to RAD-140.

- Extremely Suppressive, about as much as a mild steroid (which almost all of are better for you than this god awful compound.)
- No knowledge on long term side effects
- More of a glorified head shining tool, is not anymore hair safe than ANY steroid

- Acne
- Significantly hepatoxic and neurotoxic

The last one of these is the most important out of all of them. Why?

RAD-140 is so toxic to the body that you cannot run it for a long enough period of time for it to accumulate actual muscle that you are going to keep. You WILL lose ALL of your gains off of a RAD-140 cycle because nearly 0% of it is actual, quality muscle.

Just off of that, RAD-140 (and the rest of the thread) is total void. Pneumo himself literally says that he had to hop off early due to the extreme sides he was feeling
(something you just wouldn't feel on nearly any decent roid.) How on earth did this thread get into BOTB? :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:


This thread has over 156,000 views, and hundreds of likes and is one of the most active BOTB threads to this day. Imagine how many people have potentially been hurt using this dogshit compound. The thread is extremely persuasive and paints the perfect image for an insecure teenager looking to better themselves, a perfect compound that gets them significant results in a short period of time without any significant Unfortunately out of the two threads, this is the better one. Let's get into the next one.
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Thread #2: https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-on-sarms-from-coach-with-5-years-of-experience.75412/ by 2000lbclub (random grifter clearly trying to make money)

Overall Analysis: How on earth did this life hazard of a thread get into BOTB? This entire thing is full of blatant misinformation specifically targeted to grift off of insecurecels on .org. Lets get into every lie here.


This is blatantly wrong, there is no evidence to prove that there is less side effects or no long term risks, in fact it's more of the opposite. RAD-140 is extremely unpredictable and a terrible compound as we said.

This next thing is possibly the most dangerous piece of misinformation I've ever stumbled across on this entire forum.


No Need for PCT? What? This will literally kill your reproductive system. You'll be lucky if your dick doesn't fall off if you don't take PCT after RAD140, how on earth did this death tier thread get into BOTB? This could literally end someone's entire life.



:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:

Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height? What the hell is he talking about? Were the mods and admins back then blind? Did this dude pay his way into BOTB? This entire shit is a mystery. It just goes downhill after this too.


Wrong, there is zero solid evidence to prove actual steroids improve bones, let along some random supplement. Here's an entire BOTB thread debunking the "steroid for bones" claim if you're interested: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/


I have no clue what he's talking about, and he's wrong. Next.

:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:

RAD-140 will never in a billion years prevent hair loss. This dude is just lying. Biggest grifter in the history of the world JFL :lul::lul: RAD-140 is a hair vacuum, as previously stated, it's more of a glorified hair shining tool. There's people that take low doses of roids with fin/dut and still lose their hair. RAD-140 will eviscerate your hair follicles.

The rest of the thread is just total slop and a minor training regimen to appear legit. Worst thread I've ever read on this forum, 0/10.


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TL;DR: RAD-140 (and ALL sarms) are terrible substances that will destroy your hair, your health, and your life. You will keep 0% of the gains on RAD-140 and the gains are still majorly inferior to any gains made on even the mildest steroids. You are literally giving up your health, looks, and mental state for absolutely no reason besides being mentally masturbated by the idea of there being some miracle compound that gives you everything you want without any big sides.

One minor thing some users may want to bring up is that Clavicular also ran a RAD-140 cycle for 16 weeks and this is what I have to say to that:

Clavicular is an idiot and destroyed his health and its a miracle his penis is still intact.

This is not an anti-roiding thread, I am 100% for steroids. These compounds are just useless, dangerous, and give weak results. If you want actual good threads for steroids, consider these:


@SlayerJonas @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal @Chad @Ghost Philosophy get both of these threads out of BOTB please before we get a confirmed case of someone having their dick fall off from these terrible threads. And if possible, pin this for a bit so users know not to use these terrible compounds. I don't care about the rep. The safety of the userbase is essential.
Nice to see the second one got removed, good thread & great user
 
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I've been meaning to make this thread for a while now, I've been reading both over and over to try and see if there's something I'm not getting but these are clearly subclass and frankly, dangerous threads. BOTB is meant to be a place where any user can go and find near surefire ways to improve their looks, health, and most importantly, their knowledge, not a game of roulette where someone who is uninformed could easily mess up their looks, health, and future instantly.

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Thread #1: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-put-on-12kg-of-muscle-in-6-weeks-an-intro-to-rad-140.682718/ by Pneumo (Now deleted.)

Overall Analysis: This is a terrible thread. I don't care how much of "muh forum legend" pnuemo was, RAD140 (and all SARMS) are dangerous, toxic, and frankly weak compounds that are absolutely useless. There is approximately ZERO advantage of doing any SARM. Let's get into this.

Pneumo claims that he gained 12 KG (26 pounds) of muscle from a mere 6 week cycle of a compound of RAD140, a SARM (selective androgen receptor module.) He didn't get bloodwork done. This is what he said was his reasoning for doing a SARM over steroids.


I never knew Pneumo, nor do I know or care about any of his threads. However just from this we can see that this dude has no idea what he's talking about and clearly just searched up "best gym supplement to gain lots of muscle with no side effects" and clicked the first youtube video that came up on it. RAD-140 (and all SARMS) have a terrible rep in any serious bodybuilding space because of how shitty they are as compounds. SARMs just fundamentally aren't very good drugs, they are desinged to be more anabolic then steroids without the downsides but actually still cause a lot of secondary male characteristics like traditional anabolic steroids and they aren't as good at building muscle.


Here are the ACTUAL risks to RAD-140.

- Extremely Suppressive, about as much as a mild steroid (which almost all of are better for you than this god awful compound.)
- No knowledge on long term side effects
- More of a glorified head shining tool, is not anymore hair safe than ANY steroid

- Acne
- Significantly hepatoxic and neurotoxic

The last one of these is the most important out of all of them. Why?

RAD-140 is so toxic to the body that you cannot run it for a long enough period of time for it to accumulate actual muscle that you are going to keep. You WILL lose ALL of your gains off of a RAD-140 cycle because nearly 0% of it is actual, quality muscle.

Just off of that, RAD-140 (and the rest of the thread) is total void. Pneumo himself literally says that he had to hop off early due to the extreme sides he was feeling
(something you just wouldn't feel on nearly any decent roid.) How on earth did this thread get into BOTB? :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:


This thread has over 156,000 views, and hundreds of likes and is one of the most active BOTB threads to this day. Imagine how many people have potentially been hurt using this dogshit compound. The thread is extremely persuasive and paints the perfect image for an insecure teenager looking to better themselves, a perfect compound that gets them significant results in a short period of time without any significant Unfortunately out of the two threads, this is the better one. Let's get into the next one.
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Thread #2: https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-on-sarms-from-coach-with-5-years-of-experience.75412/ by 2000lbclub (random grifter clearly trying to make money)

Overall Analysis: How on earth did this life hazard of a thread get into BOTB? This entire thing is full of blatant misinformation specifically targeted to grift off of insecurecels on .org. Lets get into every lie here.


This is blatantly wrong, there is no evidence to prove that there is less side effects or no long term risks, in fact it's more of the opposite. RAD-140 is extremely unpredictable and a terrible compound as we said.

This next thing is possibly the most dangerous piece of misinformation I've ever stumbled across on this entire forum.


No Need for PCT? What? This will literally kill your reproductive system. You'll be lucky if your dick doesn't fall off if you don't take PCT after RAD140, how on earth did this death tier thread get into BOTB? This could literally end someone's entire life.



:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:

Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height? What the hell is he talking about? Were the mods and admins back then blind? Did this dude pay his way into BOTB? This entire shit is a mystery. It just goes downhill after this too.


Wrong, there is zero solid evidence to prove actual steroids improve bones, let along some random supplement. Here's an entire BOTB thread debunking the "steroid for bones" claim if you're interested: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/


I have no clue what he's talking about, and he's wrong. Next.

:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:

RAD-140 will never in a billion years prevent hair loss. This dude is just lying. Biggest grifter in the history of the world JFL :lul::lul: RAD-140 is a hair vacuum, as previously stated, it's more of a glorified hair shining tool. There's people that take low doses of roids with fin/dut and still lose their hair. RAD-140 will eviscerate your hair follicles.

The rest of the thread is just total slop and a minor training regimen to appear legit. Worst thread I've ever read on this forum, 0/10.


_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

TL;DR: RAD-140 (and ALL sarms) are terrible substances that will destroy your hair, your health, and your life. You will keep 0% of the gains on RAD-140 and the gains are still majorly inferior to any gains made on even the mildest steroids. You are literally giving up your health, looks, and mental state for absolutely no reason besides being mentally masturbated by the idea of there being some miracle compound that gives you everything you want without any big sides.

One minor thing some users may want to bring up is that Clavicular also ran a RAD-140 cycle for 16 weeks and this is what I have to say to that:

Clavicular is an idiot and destroyed his health and its a miracle his penis is still intact.

This is not an anti-roiding thread, I am 100% for steroids. These compounds are just useless, dangerous, and give weak results. If you want actual good threads for steroids, consider these:


@SlayerJonas @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal @Chad @Ghost Philosophy get both of these threads out of BOTB please before we get a confirmed case of someone having their dick fall off from these terrible threads. And if possible, pin this for a bit so users know not to use these terrible compounds. I don't care about the rep. The safety of the userbase is essential.
i can assure you that i did not read.
 
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Yeah we have to bloat down the botb and add new innovative shit like the diy shit and make a log of verified before and after of everthing and the shit the users have done to transform. Even though pneumo is goated , BOTB reains a place where a majority of people rely on to get vital info on everything.
 
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I've been meaning to make this thread for a while now, I've been reading both over and over to try and see if there's something I'm not getting but these are clearly subclass and frankly, dangerous threads. BOTB is meant to be a place where any user can go and find near surefire ways to improve their looks, health, and most importantly, their knowledge, not a game of roulette where someone who is uninformed could easily mess up their looks, health, and future instantly.

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Thread #1: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-put-on-12kg-of-muscle-in-6-weeks-an-intro-to-rad-140.682718/ by Pneumo (Now deleted.)

Overall Analysis: This is a terrible thread. I don't care how much of "muh forum legend" pnuemo was, RAD140 (and all SARMS) are dangerous, toxic, and frankly weak compounds that are absolutely useless. There is approximately ZERO advantage of doing any SARM. Let's get into this.

Pneumo claims that he gained 12 KG (26 pounds) of muscle from a mere 6 week cycle of a compound of RAD140, a SARM (selective androgen receptor module.) He didn't get bloodwork done. This is what he said was his reasoning for doing a SARM over steroids.


I never knew Pneumo, nor do I know or care about any of his threads. However just from this we can see that this dude has no idea what he's talking about and clearly just searched up "best gym supplement to gain lots of muscle with no side effects" and clicked the first youtube video that came up on it. RAD-140 (and all SARMS) have a terrible rep in any serious bodybuilding space because of how shitty they are as compounds. SARMs just fundamentally aren't very good drugs, they are desinged to be more anabolic then steroids without the downsides but actually still cause a lot of secondary male characteristics like traditional anabolic steroids and they aren't as good at building muscle.


Here are the ACTUAL risks to RAD-140.

- Extremely Suppressive, about as much as a mild steroid (which almost all of are better for you than this god awful compound.)
- No knowledge on long term side effects
- More of a glorified head shining tool, is not anymore hair safe than ANY steroid

- Acne
- Significantly hepatoxic and neurotoxic

The last one of these is the most important out of all of them. Why?

RAD-140 is so toxic to the body that you cannot run it for a long enough period of time for it to accumulate actual muscle that you are going to keep. You WILL lose ALL of your gains off of a RAD-140 cycle because nearly 0% of it is actual, quality muscle.

Just off of that, RAD-140 (and the rest of the thread) is total void. Pneumo himself literally says that he had to hop off early due to the extreme sides he was feeling
(something you just wouldn't feel on nearly any decent roid.) How on earth did this thread get into BOTB? :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:


This thread has over 156,000 views, and hundreds of likes and is one of the most active BOTB threads to this day. Imagine how many people have potentially been hurt using this dogshit compound. The thread is extremely persuasive and paints the perfect image for an insecure teenager looking to better themselves, a perfect compound that gets them significant results in a short period of time without any significant Unfortunately out of the two threads, this is the better one. Let's get into the next one.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thread #2: https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-on-sarms-from-coach-with-5-years-of-experience.75412/ by 2000lbclub (random grifter clearly trying to make money)

Overall Analysis: How on earth did this life hazard of a thread get into BOTB? This entire thing is full of blatant misinformation specifically targeted to grift off of insecurecels on .org. Lets get into every lie here.


This is blatantly wrong, there is no evidence to prove that there is less side effects or no long term risks, in fact it's more of the opposite. RAD-140 is extremely unpredictable and a terrible compound as we said.

This next thing is possibly the most dangerous piece of misinformation I've ever stumbled across on this entire forum.


No Need for PCT? What? This will literally kill your reproductive system. You'll be lucky if your dick doesn't fall off if you don't take PCT after RAD140, how on earth did this death tier thread get into BOTB? This could literally end someone's entire life.



:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:

Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height? What the hell is he talking about? Were the mods and admins back then blind? Did this dude pay his way into BOTB? This entire shit is a mystery. It just goes downhill after this too.


Wrong, there is zero solid evidence to prove actual steroids improve bones, let along some random supplement. Here's an entire BOTB thread debunking the "steroid for bones" claim if you're interested: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/


I have no clue what he's talking about, and he's wrong. Next.

:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:

RAD-140 will never in a billion years prevent hair loss. This dude is just lying. Biggest grifter in the history of the world JFL :lul::lul: RAD-140 is a hair vacuum, as previously stated, it's more of a glorified hair shining tool. There's people that take low doses of roids with fin/dut and still lose their hair. RAD-140 will eviscerate your hair follicles.

The rest of the thread is just total slop and a minor training regimen to appear legit. Worst thread I've ever read on this forum, 0/10.


_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

TL;DR: RAD-140 (and ALL sarms) are terrible substances that will destroy your hair, your health, and your life. You will keep 0% of the gains on RAD-140 and the gains are still majorly inferior to any gains made on even the mildest steroids. You are literally giving up your health, looks, and mental state for absolutely no reason besides being mentally masturbated by the idea of there being some miracle compound that gives you everything you want without any big sides.

One minor thing some users may want to bring up is that Clavicular also ran a RAD-140 cycle for 16 weeks and this is what I have to say to that:

Clavicular is an idiot and destroyed his health and its a miracle his penis is still intact.

This is not an anti-roiding thread, I am 100% for steroids. These compounds are just useless, dangerous, and give weak results. If you want actual good threads for steroids, consider these:


@SlayerJonas @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal @Chad @Ghost Philosophy get both of these threads out of BOTB please before we get a confirmed case of someone having their dick fall off from these terrible threads. And if possible, pin this for a bit so users know not to use these terrible compounds. I don't care about the rep. The safety of the userbase is essential.
Get this in botb asap this probably saved my life
 
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I've been meaning to make this thread for a while now, I've been reading both over and over to try and see if there's something I'm not getting but these are clearly subclass and frankly, dangerous threads. BOTB is meant to be a place where any user can go and find near surefire ways to improve their looks, health, and most importantly, their knowledge, not a game of roulette where someone who is uninformed could easily mess up their looks, health, and future instantly.

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thread #1: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-put-on-12kg-of-muscle-in-6-weeks-an-intro-to-rad-140.682718/ by Pneumo (Now deleted.)

Overall Analysis: This is a terrible thread. I don't care how much of "muh forum legend" pnuemo was, RAD140 (and all SARMS) are dangerous, toxic, and frankly weak compounds that are absolutely useless. There is approximately ZERO advantage of doing any SARM. Let's get into this.

Pneumo claims that he gained 12 KG (26 pounds) of muscle from a mere 6 week cycle of a compound of RAD140, a SARM (selective androgen receptor module.) He didn't get bloodwork done. This is what he said was his reasoning for doing a SARM over steroids.


I never knew Pneumo, nor do I know or care about any of his threads. However just from this we can see that this dude has no idea what he's talking about and clearly just searched up "best gym supplement to gain lots of muscle with no side effects" and clicked the first youtube video that came up on it. RAD-140 (and all SARMS) have a terrible rep in any serious bodybuilding space because of how shitty they are as compounds. SARMs just fundamentally aren't very good drugs, they are desinged to be more anabolic then steroids without the downsides but actually still cause a lot of secondary male characteristics like traditional anabolic steroids and they aren't as good at building muscle.


Here are the ACTUAL risks to RAD-140.

- Extremely Suppressive, about as much as a mild steroid (which almost all of are better for you than this god awful compound.)
- No knowledge on long term side effects
- More of a glorified head shining tool, is not anymore hair safe than ANY steroid

- Acne
- Significantly hepatoxic and neurotoxic

The last one of these is the most important out of all of them. Why?

RAD-140 is so toxic to the body that you cannot run it for a long enough period of time for it to accumulate actual muscle that you are going to keep. You WILL lose ALL of your gains off of a RAD-140 cycle because nearly 0% of it is actual, quality muscle.

Just off of that, RAD-140 (and the rest of the thread) is total void. Pneumo himself literally says that he had to hop off early due to the extreme sides he was feeling
(something you just wouldn't feel on nearly any decent roid.) How on earth did this thread get into BOTB? :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:


This thread has over 156,000 views, and hundreds of likes and is one of the most active BOTB threads to this day. Imagine how many people have potentially been hurt using this dogshit compound. The thread is extremely persuasive and paints the perfect image for an insecure teenager looking to better themselves, a perfect compound that gets them significant results in a short period of time without any significant Unfortunately out of the two threads, this is the better one. Let's get into the next one.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thread #2: https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-on-sarms-from-coach-with-5-years-of-experience.75412/ by 2000lbclub (random grifter clearly trying to make money)

Overall Analysis: How on earth did this life hazard of a thread get into BOTB? This entire thing is full of blatant misinformation specifically targeted to grift off of insecurecels on .org. Lets get into every lie here.


This is blatantly wrong, there is no evidence to prove that there is less side effects or no long term risks, in fact it's more of the opposite. RAD-140 is extremely unpredictable and a terrible compound as we said.

This next thing is possibly the most dangerous piece of misinformation I've ever stumbled across on this entire forum.


No Need for PCT? What? This will literally kill your reproductive system. You'll be lucky if your dick doesn't fall off if you don't take PCT after RAD140, how on earth did this death tier thread get into BOTB? This could literally end someone's entire life.



:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:

Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height? What the hell is he talking about? Were the mods and admins back then blind? Did this dude pay his way into BOTB? This entire shit is a mystery. It just goes downhill after this too.


Wrong, there is zero solid evidence to prove actual steroids improve bones, let along some random supplement. Here's an entire BOTB thread debunking the "steroid for bones" claim if you're interested: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/


I have no clue what he's talking about, and he's wrong. Next.

:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:

RAD-140 will never in a billion years prevent hair loss. This dude is just lying. Biggest grifter in the history of the world JFL :lul::lul: RAD-140 is a hair vacuum, as previously stated, it's more of a glorified hair shining tool. There's people that take low doses of roids with fin/dut and still lose their hair. RAD-140 will eviscerate your hair follicles.

The rest of the thread is just total slop and a minor training regimen to appear legit. Worst thread I've ever read on this forum, 0/10.


_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

TL;DR: RAD-140 (and ALL sarms) are terrible substances that will destroy your hair, your health, and your life. You will keep 0% of the gains on RAD-140 and the gains are still majorly inferior to any gains made on even the mildest steroids. You are literally giving up your health, looks, and mental state for absolutely no reason besides being mentally masturbated by the idea of there being some miracle compound that gives you everything you want without any big sides.

One minor thing some users may want to bring up is that Clavicular also ran a RAD-140 cycle for 16 weeks and this is what I have to say to that:

Clavicular is an idiot and destroyed his health and its a miracle his penis is still intact.

This is not an anti-roiding thread, I am 100% for steroids. These compounds are just useless, dangerous, and give weak results. If you want actual good threads for steroids, consider these:


@SlayerJonas @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal @Chad @Ghost Philosophy get both of these threads out of BOTB please before we get a confirmed case of someone having their dick fall off from these terrible threads. And if possible, pin this for a bit so users know not to use these terrible compounds. I don't care about the rep. The safety of the userbase is essential.
i ran for 15 weeks at 40 mg every day at early 16. im mid 16 now it ascended me pretty hard tbh.
 
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i ran for 15 weeks at 40 mg every day at early 16. im mid 16 now it ascended me pretty hard tbh.
you ran 40mg rad 140 for 15 weeks? holy shit did you get jacked
 
I've been meaning to make this thread for a while now, I've been reading both over and over to try and see if there's something I'm not getting but these are clearly subclass and frankly, dangerous threads. BOTB is meant to be a place where any user can go and find near surefire ways to improve their looks, health, and most importantly, their knowledge, not a game of roulette where someone who is uninformed could easily mess up their looks, health, and future instantly.

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thread #1: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-put-on-12kg-of-muscle-in-6-weeks-an-intro-to-rad-140.682718/ by Pneumo (Now deleted.)

Overall Analysis: This is a terrible thread. I don't care how much of "muh forum legend" pnuemo was, RAD140 (and all SARMS) are dangerous, toxic, and frankly weak compounds that are absolutely useless. There is approximately ZERO advantage of doing any SARM. Let's get into this.

Pneumo claims that he gained 12 KG (26 pounds) of muscle from a mere 6 week cycle of a compound of RAD140, a SARM (selective androgen receptor module.) He didn't get bloodwork done. This is what he said was his reasoning for doing a SARM over steroids.


I never knew Pneumo, nor do I know or care about any of his threads. However just from this we can see that this dude has no idea what he's talking about and clearly just searched up "best gym supplement to gain lots of muscle with no side effects" and clicked the first youtube video that came up on it. RAD-140 (and all SARMS) have a terrible rep in any serious bodybuilding space because of how shitty they are as compounds. SARMs just fundamentally aren't very good drugs, they are desinged to be more anabolic then steroids without the downsides but actually still cause a lot of secondary male characteristics like traditional anabolic steroids and they aren't as good at building muscle.


Here are the ACTUAL risks to RAD-140.

- Extremely Suppressive, about as much as a mild steroid (which almost all of are better for you than this god awful compound.)
- No knowledge on long term side effects
- More of a glorified head shining tool, is not anymore hair safe than ANY steroid

- Acne
- Significantly hepatoxic and neurotoxic

The last one of these is the most important out of all of them. Why?

RAD-140 is so toxic to the body that you cannot run it for a long enough period of time for it to accumulate actual muscle that you are going to keep. You WILL lose ALL of your gains off of a RAD-140 cycle because nearly 0% of it is actual, quality muscle.

Just off of that, RAD-140 (and the rest of the thread) is total void. Pneumo himself literally says that he had to hop off early due to the extreme sides he was feeling
(something you just wouldn't feel on nearly any decent roid.) How on earth did this thread get into BOTB? :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:


This thread has over 156,000 views, and hundreds of likes and is one of the most active BOTB threads to this day. Imagine how many people have potentially been hurt using this dogshit compound. The thread is extremely persuasive and paints the perfect image for an insecure teenager looking to better themselves, a perfect compound that gets them significant results in a short period of time without any significant Unfortunately out of the two threads, this is the better one. Let's get into the next one.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thread #2: https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-on-sarms-from-coach-with-5-years-of-experience.75412/ by 2000lbclub (random grifter clearly trying to make money)

Overall Analysis: How on earth did this life hazard of a thread get into BOTB? This entire thing is full of blatant misinformation specifically targeted to grift off of insecurecels on .org. Lets get into every lie here.


This is blatantly wrong, there is no evidence to prove that there is less side effects or no long term risks, in fact it's more of the opposite. RAD-140 is extremely unpredictable and a terrible compound as we said.

This next thing is possibly the most dangerous piece of misinformation I've ever stumbled across on this entire forum.


No Need for PCT? What? This will literally kill your reproductive system. You'll be lucky if your dick doesn't fall off if you don't take PCT after RAD140, how on earth did this death tier thread get into BOTB? This could literally end someone's entire life.



:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:

Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height? What the hell is he talking about? Were the mods and admins back then blind? Did this dude pay his way into BOTB? This entire shit is a mystery. It just goes downhill after this too.


Wrong, there is zero solid evidence to prove actual steroids improve bones, let along some random supplement. Here's an entire BOTB thread debunking the "steroid for bones" claim if you're interested: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/


I have no clue what he's talking about, and he's wrong. Next.

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RAD-140 will never in a billion years prevent hair loss. This dude is just lying. Biggest grifter in the history of the world JFL :lul::lul: RAD-140 is a hair vacuum, as previously stated, it's more of a glorified hair shining tool. There's people that take low doses of roids with fin/dut and still lose their hair. RAD-140 will eviscerate your hair follicles.

The rest of the thread is just total slop and a minor training regimen to appear legit. Worst thread I've ever read on this forum, 0/10.


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TL;DR: RAD-140 (and ALL sarms) are terrible substances that will destroy your hair, your health, and your life. You will keep 0% of the gains on RAD-140 and the gains are still majorly inferior to any gains made on even the mildest steroids. You are literally giving up your health, looks, and mental state for absolutely no reason besides being mentally masturbated by the idea of there being some miracle compound that gives you everything you want without any big sides.

One minor thing some users may want to bring up is that Clavicular also ran a RAD-140 cycle for 16 weeks and this is what I have to say to that:

Clavicular is an idiot and destroyed his health and its a miracle his penis is still intact.

This is not an anti-roiding thread, I am 100% for steroids. These compounds are just useless, dangerous, and give weak results. If you want actual good threads for steroids, consider these:


@SlayerJonas @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal @Chad @Ghost Philosophy get both of these threads out of BOTB please before we get a confirmed case of someone having their dick fall off from these terrible threads. And if possible, pin this for a bit so users know not to use these terrible compounds. I don't care about the rep. The safety of the userbase is essential.
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Totally agree, for most people Sarms especially for 6-8 weeks will do nothing. Got a friend he ran lgd, mk677, var for 6 weeks. 3 weeks enclo post. It helped him gain weight as he was pretty skinny and I would say he kept like 20%.
For most people its not worrth the risk.
 
“Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height?”

Testosterone suppression wil indeed increase height though i wish i fell into the sarm bullshit instead off listening to niggas telling me to take testosterone
 
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Majority of the BOTB threads need to be removed, a lot are old, low effort water (for 2025, not back then) and just outdated.
 
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crazy talking about shit botb threads without mentioning the infamous flaming garbage thread
Why the hell is this even in BOTB:lul:
 
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I've been meaning to make this thread for a while now, I've been reading both over and over to try and see if there's something I'm not getting but these are clearly subclass and frankly, dangerous threads. BOTB is meant to be a place where any user can go and find near surefire ways to improve their looks, health, and most importantly, their knowledge, not a game of roulette where someone who is uninformed could easily mess up their looks, health, and future instantly.

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Thread #1: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-put-on-12kg-of-muscle-in-6-weeks-an-intro-to-rad-140.682718/ by Pneumo (Now deleted.)

Overall Analysis: This is a terrible thread. I don't care how much of "muh forum legend" pnuemo was, RAD140 (and all SARMS) are dangerous, toxic, and frankly weak compounds that are absolutely useless. There is approximately ZERO advantage of doing any SARM. Let's get into this.

Pneumo claims that he gained 12 KG (26 pounds) of muscle from a mere 6 week cycle of a compound of RAD140, a SARM (selective androgen receptor module.) He didn't get bloodwork done. This is what he said was his reasoning for doing a SARM over steroids.


I never knew Pneumo, nor do I know or care about any of his threads. However just from this we can see that this dude has no idea what he's talking about and clearly just searched up "best gym supplement to gain lots of muscle with no side effects" and clicked the first youtube video that came up on it. RAD-140 (and all SARMS) have a terrible rep in any serious bodybuilding space because of how shitty they are as compounds. SARMs just fundamentally aren't very good drugs, they are desinged to be more anabolic then steroids without the downsides but actually still cause a lot of secondary male characteristics like traditional anabolic steroids and they aren't as good at building muscle.


Here are the ACTUAL risks to RAD-140.

- Extremely Suppressive, about as much as a mild steroid (which almost all of are better for you than this god awful compound.)
- No knowledge on long term side effects
- More of a glorified head shining tool, is not anymore hair safe than ANY steroid

- Acne
- Significantly hepatoxic and neurotoxic

The last one of these is the most important out of all of them. Why?

RAD-140 is so toxic to the body that you cannot run it for a long enough period of time for it to accumulate actual muscle that you are going to keep. You WILL lose ALL of your gains off of a RAD-140 cycle because nearly 0% of it is actual, quality muscle.

Just off of that, RAD-140 (and the rest of the thread) is total void. Pneumo himself literally says that he had to hop off early due to the extreme sides he was feeling
(something you just wouldn't feel on nearly any decent roid.) How on earth did this thread get into BOTB? :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:


This thread has over 156,000 views, and hundreds of likes and is one of the most active BOTB threads to this day. Imagine how many people have potentially been hurt using this dogshit compound. The thread is extremely persuasive and paints the perfect image for an insecure teenager looking to better themselves, a perfect compound that gets them significant results in a short period of time without any significant Unfortunately out of the two threads, this is the better one. Let's get into the next one.
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Thread #2: https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-on-sarms-from-coach-with-5-years-of-experience.75412/ by 2000lbclub (random grifter clearly trying to make money)

Overall Analysis: How on earth did this life hazard of a thread get into BOTB? This entire thing is full of blatant misinformation specifically targeted to grift off of insecurecels on .org. Lets get into every lie here.


This is blatantly wrong, there is no evidence to prove that there is less side effects or no long term risks, in fact it's more of the opposite. RAD-140 is extremely unpredictable and a terrible compound as we said.

This next thing is possibly the most dangerous piece of misinformation I've ever stumbled across on this entire forum.


No Need for PCT? What? This will literally kill your reproductive system. You'll be lucky if your dick doesn't fall off if you don't take PCT after RAD140, how on earth did this death tier thread get into BOTB? This could literally end someone's entire life.



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Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height? What the hell is he talking about? Were the mods and admins back then blind? Did this dude pay his way into BOTB? This entire shit is a mystery. It just goes downhill after this too.


Wrong, there is zero solid evidence to prove actual steroids improve bones, let along some random supplement. Here's an entire BOTB thread debunking the "steroid for bones" claim if you're interested: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/


I have no clue what he's talking about, and he's wrong. Next.

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RAD-140 will never in a billion years prevent hair loss. This dude is just lying. Biggest grifter in the history of the world JFL :lul::lul: RAD-140 is a hair vacuum, as previously stated, it's more of a glorified hair shining tool. There's people that take low doses of roids with fin/dut and still lose their hair. RAD-140 will eviscerate your hair follicles.

The rest of the thread is just total slop and a minor training regimen to appear legit. Worst thread I've ever read on this forum, 0/10.


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TL;DR: RAD-140 (and ALL sarms) are terrible substances that will destroy your hair, your health, and your life. You will keep 0% of the gains on RAD-140 and the gains are still majorly inferior to any gains made on even the mildest steroids. You are literally giving up your health, looks, and mental state for absolutely no reason besides being mentally masturbated by the idea of there being some miracle compound that gives you everything you want without any big sides.

One minor thing some users may want to bring up is that Clavicular also ran a RAD-140 cycle for 16 weeks and this is what I have to say to that:

Clavicular is an idiot and destroyed his health and its a miracle his penis is still intact.

This is not an anti-roiding thread, I am 100% for steroids. These compounds are just useless, dangerous, and give weak results. If you want actual good threads for steroids, consider these:


@SlayerJonas @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal @Chad @Ghost Philosophy get both of these threads out of BOTB please before we get a confirmed case of someone having their dick fall off from these terrible threads. And if possible, pin this for a bit so users know not to use these terrible compounds. I don't care about the rep. The safety of the userbase is essential.
Honestly a lot of the threads there don't deserve it, there's that skin thread by pretty boy, it doesn't have anything harmful but it's so surface level barely informative and has wrong shit in it like taking Collagen supplements which doesn't do shit for your skin. There's many better skin care threads that deserve that spot.
 
We need to get fucking musicmaxxing out of BOTB
 

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