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I've been meaning to make this thread for a while now, I've been reading both over and over to try and see if there's something I'm not getting but these are clearly subclass and frankly, dangerous threads. BOTB is meant to be a place where any user can go and find near surefire ways to improve their looks, health, and most importantly, their knowledge, not a game of roulette where someone who is uninformed could easily mess up their looks, health, and future instantly.
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Thread #1: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-put-on-12kg-of-muscle-in-6-weeks-an-intro-to-rad-140.682718/ by Pneumo (Now deleted.)
Overall Analysis: This is a terrible thread. I don't care how much of "muh forum legend" pnuemo was, RAD140 (and all SARMS) are dangerous, toxic, and frankly weak compounds that are absolutely useless. There is approximately ZERO advantage of doing any SARM. Let's get into this.
Pneumo claims that he gained 12 KG (26 pounds) of muscle from a mere 6 week cycle of a compound of RAD140, a SARM (selective androgen receptor module.) He didn't get bloodwork done. This is what he said was his reasoning for doing a SARM over steroids.
I never knew Pneumo, nor do I know or care about any of his threads. However just from this we can see that this dude has no idea what he's talking about and clearly just searched up "best gym supplement to gain lots of muscle with no side effects" and clicked the first youtube video that came up on it. RAD-140 (and all SARMS) have a terrible rep in any serious bodybuilding space because of how shitty they are as compounds. SARMs just fundamentally aren't very good drugs, they are desinged to be more anabolic then steroids without the downsides but actually still cause a lot of secondary male characteristics like traditional anabolic steroids and they aren't as good at building muscle.
Here are the ACTUAL risks to RAD-140.
- Extremely Suppressive, about as much as a mild steroid (which almost all of are better for you than this god awful compound.)
- No knowledge on long term side effects
- More of a glorified head shining tool, is not anymore hair safe than ANY steroid
- Acne
- Significantly hepatoxic and neurotoxic
The last one of these is the most important out of all of them. Why?
RAD-140 is so toxic to the body that you cannot run it for a long enough period of time for it to accumulate actual muscle that you are going to keep. You WILL lose ALL of your gains off of a RAD-140 cycle because nearly 0% of it is actual, quality muscle.
Just off of that, RAD-140 (and the rest of the thread) is total void. Pneumo himself literally says that he had to hop off early due to the extreme sides he was feeling
(something you just wouldn't feel on nearly any decent roid.) How on earth did this thread get into BOTB?





This thread has over 156,000 views, and hundreds of likes and is one of the most active BOTB threads to this day. Imagine how many people have potentially been hurt using this dogshit compound. The thread is extremely persuasive and paints the perfect image for an insecure teenager looking to better themselves, a perfect compound that gets them significant results in a short period of time without any significant Unfortunately out of the two threads, this is the better one. Let's get into the next one.
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Thread #2: https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-on-sarms-from-coach-with-5-years-of-experience.75412/ by 2000lbclub (random grifter clearly trying to make money)
Overall Analysis: How on earth did this life hazard of a thread get into BOTB? This entire thing is full of blatant misinformation specifically targeted to grift off of insecurecels on .org. Lets get into every lie here.
This is blatantly wrong, there is no evidence to prove that there is less side effects or no long term risks, in fact it's more of the opposite. RAD-140 is extremely unpredictable and a terrible compound as we said.
This next thing is possibly the most dangerous piece of misinformation I've ever stumbled across on this entire forum.
No Need for PCT? What? This will literally kill your reproductive system. You'll be lucky if your dick doesn't fall off if you don't take PCT after RAD140, how on earth did this death tier thread get into BOTB? This could literally end someone's entire life.
























Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height? What the hell is he talking about? Were the mods and admins back then blind? Did this dude pay his way into BOTB? This entire shit is a mystery. It just goes downhill after this too.
Wrong, there is zero solid evidence to prove actual steroids improve bones, let along some random supplement. Here's an entire BOTB thread debunking the "steroid for bones" claim if you're interested: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/
I have no clue what he's talking about, and he's wrong. Next.




























RAD-140 will never in a billion years prevent hair loss. This dude is just lying. Biggest grifter in the history of the world JFL
RAD-140 is a hair vacuum, as previously stated, it's more of a glorified hair shining tool. There's people that take low doses of roids with fin/dut and still lose their hair. RAD-140 will eviscerate your hair follicles.
The rest of the thread is just total slop and a minor training regimen to appear legit. Worst thread I've ever read on this forum, 0/10.
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TL;DR: RAD-140 (and ALL sarms) are terrible substances that will destroy your hair, your health, and your life. You will keep 0% of the gains on RAD-140 and the gains are still majorly inferior to any gains made on even the mildest steroids. You are literally giving up your health, looks, and mental state for absolutely no reason besides being mentally masturbated by the idea of there being some miracle compound that gives you everything you want without any big sides.
One minor thing some users may want to bring up is that Clavicular also ran a RAD-140 cycle for 16 weeks and this is what I have to say to that:
Clavicular is an idiot and destroyed his health and its a miracle his penis is still intact.
This is not an anti-roiding thread, I am 100% for steroids. These compounds are just useless, dangerous, and give weak results. If you want actual good threads for steroids, consider these:
looksmax.org
looksmax.org
@SlayerJonas @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal @Chad @Ghost Philosophy get both of these threads out of BOTB please before we get a confirmed case of someone having their dick fall off from these terrible threads. And if possible, pin this for a bit so users know not to use these terrible compounds. I don't care about the rep. The safety of the userbase is essential.
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Thread #1: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-put-on-12kg-of-muscle-in-6-weeks-an-intro-to-rad-140.682718/ by Pneumo (Now deleted.)
Overall Analysis: This is a terrible thread. I don't care how much of "muh forum legend" pnuemo was, RAD140 (and all SARMS) are dangerous, toxic, and frankly weak compounds that are absolutely useless. There is approximately ZERO advantage of doing any SARM. Let's get into this.
Pneumo claims that he gained 12 KG (26 pounds) of muscle from a mere 6 week cycle of a compound of RAD140, a SARM (selective androgen receptor module.) He didn't get bloodwork done. This is what he said was his reasoning for doing a SARM over steroids.
So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.
I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.
Source: naspcenter.org
I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:
ADVANTAGES DRAWBACKS Increased muscle growth Suppresses natural Testosterone production Faster muscle repair Little knowledge on long-term side-effects Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws. No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit) Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle Acne Increased endurance Increased aggressiveness and irritability Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriouslyLiver and other organ damage
I never knew Pneumo, nor do I know or care about any of his threads. However just from this we can see that this dude has no idea what he's talking about and clearly just searched up "best gym supplement to gain lots of muscle with no side effects" and clicked the first youtube video that came up on it. RAD-140 (and all SARMS) have a terrible rep in any serious bodybuilding space because of how shitty they are as compounds. SARMs just fundamentally aren't very good drugs, they are desinged to be more anabolic then steroids without the downsides but actually still cause a lot of secondary male characteristics like traditional anabolic steroids and they aren't as good at building muscle.
Here are the ACTUAL risks to RAD-140.
- Extremely Suppressive, about as much as a mild steroid (which almost all of are better for you than this god awful compound.)
- No knowledge on long term side effects
- More of a glorified head shining tool, is not anymore hair safe than ANY steroid
- Acne
- Significantly hepatoxic and neurotoxic
The last one of these is the most important out of all of them. Why?
RAD-140 is so toxic to the body that you cannot run it for a long enough period of time for it to accumulate actual muscle that you are going to keep. You WILL lose ALL of your gains off of a RAD-140 cycle because nearly 0% of it is actual, quality muscle.
Just off of that, RAD-140 (and the rest of the thread) is total void. Pneumo himself literally says that he had to hop off early due to the extreme sides he was feeling
(something you just wouldn't feel on nearly any decent roid.) How on earth did this thread get into BOTB?
This thread has over 156,000 views, and hundreds of likes and is one of the most active BOTB threads to this day. Imagine how many people have potentially been hurt using this dogshit compound. The thread is extremely persuasive and paints the perfect image for an insecure teenager looking to better themselves, a perfect compound that gets them significant results in a short period of time without any significant Unfortunately out of the two threads, this is the better one. Let's get into the next one.
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Thread #2: https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-on-sarms-from-coach-with-5-years-of-experience.75412/ by 2000lbclub (random grifter clearly trying to make money)
Overall Analysis: How on earth did this life hazard of a thread get into BOTB? This entire thing is full of blatant misinformation specifically targeted to grift off of insecurecels on .org. Lets get into every lie here.
2. The severity of side-effects are much lower. For example, testosterone, a steroid, has an anabolic/androgenic ratio of 100:100. Rad140 has an anabolic/androgenic ratio of 90:1. Androgenic are the chemicals that cause side-effects (hair loss, acne), while anabolic chemicals promotes muscle growth. This gives insane gains without any long-term risks.
This is blatantly wrong, there is no evidence to prove that there is less side effects or no long term risks, in fact it's more of the opposite. RAD-140 is extremely unpredictable and a terrible compound as we said.
This next thing is possibly the most dangerous piece of misinformation I've ever stumbled across on this entire forum.
3. Its taken orally, so there are no injections plus no need for PCT, or AI (a pussy reason but makes a difference to some people)
No Need for PCT? What? This will literally kill your reproductive system. You'll be lucky if your dick doesn't fall off if you don't take PCT after RAD140, how on earth did this death tier thread get into BOTB? This could literally end someone's entire life.
4. Potentially increase height (Sarms suppress your hormones, since the androgen binds with androgen receptors to mimic the effect of testosterone. You won't feel low T, but estrogen is suppressed, delaying epiphyseal plate or growth plate closure, increasing the time you can grow)
Increase height? Did this dude try passing off testosterone suppression as something that increases height? What the hell is he talking about? Were the mods and admins back then blind? Did this dude pay his way into BOTB? This entire shit is a mystery. It just goes downhill after this too.
5. Jaw/shoulder/browridge growth: Since SARMS are selective to muscle and bone, it increases bone growth. However, it is selective to dimorphic traits influenced by testosterone. Thus, bones influenced by estrogen such as hips will grow less causing the development of wide shoulders while hips remain relatively the same.
Wrong, there is zero solid evidence to prove actual steroids improve bones, let along some random supplement. Here's an entire BOTB thread debunking the "steroid for bones" claim if you're interested: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/
6. Changes in Fat distribution: Gynoid or estrogenic fat distribution stores fat in thighs and Breast, while Andriod fat distribution (high t) stores it in Abdomen, Chest, Shoulder and neck. This happens because of Estrogen suppression.
I have no clue what he's talking about, and he's wrong. Next.
7. Prevent hair loss: By suppressing systemic Testosterone levels in the body and competing with Testosterone and DHT for the androgen receptor, androgenic activity in the body is substantially decreased. Suppressing DHT could act similar to Fin and decrease or even reverse hair loss.
RAD-140 will never in a billion years prevent hair loss. This dude is just lying. Biggest grifter in the history of the world JFL
The rest of the thread is just total slop and a minor training regimen to appear legit. Worst thread I've ever read on this forum, 0/10.
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TL;DR: RAD-140 (and ALL sarms) are terrible substances that will destroy your hair, your health, and your life. You will keep 0% of the gains on RAD-140 and the gains are still majorly inferior to any gains made on even the mildest steroids. You are literally giving up your health, looks, and mental state for absolutely no reason besides being mentally masturbated by the idea of there being some miracle compound that gives you everything you want without any big sides.
One minor thing some users may want to bring up is that Clavicular also ran a RAD-140 cycle for 16 weeks and this is what I have to say to that:
Clavicular is an idiot and destroyed his health and its a miracle his penis is still intact.
This is not an anti-roiding thread, I am 100% for steroids. These compounds are just useless, dangerous, and give weak results. If you want actual good threads for steroids, consider these:
A Superior Guide to Your First Steroid Cycle - Everything You NEED to Know Regarding your First Cycle and Female Perception of the Male Body
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@SlayerJonas @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal @Chad @Ghost Philosophy get both of these threads out of BOTB please before we get a confirmed case of someone having their dick fall off from these terrible threads. And if possible, pin this for a bit so users know not to use these terrible compounds. I don't care about the rep. The safety of the userbase is essential.
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