Vegans are so fucking wierd with their meat statistics

[Baldingman1998]

Heart disease is because of ingesting too much saturated fat, cancer not related to unprocessed meats at all, diabetes also lol, kidney and high blood pressure is from salt, MS is from low vit D and nitric oxide

Saturated fat > unsaturated fat

But too much in a short window is bad

 

[TsarTsar444]

Isoflavones weakly interact with estrogen receptors. I don't know if they even have an estrogenic effect. Not a big enough deal to me. I don't eat tofu though, but I do drink milk.

Well yes they still do tho but in a wierdly potent manner, they signal increase in breast tissue and all that. CBA to explain it fully, but soy = bad

 

[TsarTsar444]

Saturated fat > unsaturated fat

But too much in a short window is bad

Not how it works, saturated fat in a mild amount is ideal but you should always ingest more olive oil then saturated fat because it was foujd from studies more mono then saturated fat is much healthier

 

[Baldingman1998]

Not how it works, saturated fat in a mild amount is ideal but you should always ingest more olive oil then saturated fat because it was foujd from studies more mono then saturated fat is much healthier

polyunsaturatedis worst tho

 

[subhuman incel]

Heart disease is because of ingesting too much saturated fat, cancer not related to unprocessed meats at all, diabetes also lol, kidney and high blood pressure is from salt, MS is from low vit D and nitric oxide

dude where did you get this information from if i can ask? like yes low vit d can be a cause of MS but its surely not the only one, its probably much more complex and the whole diet has a much bigger impact than just a single nutrient or supplement. and animal products have much saturated fat so you agree on heart disease. cancer and diabetes are very much linked to meat, i can show you other respected Medical doctors who say the same. also yes too much salt is bad i know and it can make you addiciting and overeat. nitric oxide is in green leafy plants which are very healthy.

 

[TsarTsar444]

polyunsaturatedis worst tho

Indeed but olive oil is the healthiest strictly for health, for brain function saturated is needed in some amount too

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Well yes they still do tho but in a wierdly potent manner, they signal increase in breast tissue and all that. CBA to explain it fully, but soy = bad

Other dietary sources of isoflavones include chick pea (biochanin A), alfalfa (formononetin), and peanut (genistein). Isoflavones are also found in foods of animal origin such as dairy products,[6] meat, eggs and seafood,[7] but the overall contribution to total intake is low.

Soy has a higher concentration of isoflavones, but you're still consuming them from many other food sources.

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[Carnivore]

healthy vegetarians mog omnivores

Then why is almost no professional athlete vegan? If it was so superior, surely the top competitors trying to get that extra edge would be vegan, but they are not.

 

[TsarTsar444]

dude where did you get this information from if i can ask? like yes low vit d can be a cause of MS but its surely not the only one, its probably much more complex and the whole diet has a much bigger impact than just a single nutrient or supplement. and animal products have much saturated fat so you agree on heart disease. cancer and diabetes are very much linked to meat, i can show you other respected Medical doctors who say the same. also yes too much salt is bad i know and it can make you addiciting and overeat. nitric oxide is in green leafy plants which are very healthy.

MS is the cause of low vit D mostly cause its most common in places with less sun, but its also genetic and still we dont know the real reasons.

Lean meat has no saturated fat

Diabetes simply has nothing to do with meat, meat is not connected to insulin in any way so thats cope

Meat has not shown to cause cancer other then a small increase of colon cancer, thats it

Nitric oxide is most available from sun not diet jfl, thats like saying vit D from diet which is a meme

 

[TsarTsar444]

Soy has a higher concentration of isoflavones, but you're still consuming them from many other food sources.

It has much higher then all those things

 

[subhuman incel]

Then why is almost no professional athlete vegan? If it was so superior, surely the top competitors trying to get that extra edge would be vegan, but they are not.

many people are realizing a healthy vegan diet is the best possible for health and performance so they are transitioning. im not sure about muscle building though, you can take vegan protein powder if you need. and eating more plants gives you more energy and makes you rest faster, so you can train earlier again.

 

[subhuman incel]

New study shows eating semen slows down skin aging (new mechanism) India study

this doctor has good bones

even the animals in india are beta

correlation w cancer and meat eating is laughable tbh


its only legit for heart diesease and shit like that


genetics is everything doe as always

Do you think he is natty tho? Dr Shawn Baker is on T as far as I know

a healthy vegan whole food plant based diet is the best diet for humans so stop the fucking cope.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Vegan is technically the healthiest but only technically, well managed omnivore diet is good as well

 

[subhuman incel]

Vegan is technically the healthiest but only technically, well managed omnivore diet is good as well

i agree on that. a healthy omnivore diet is for sure better than eating a lot of processed foods like mcdonalds or burger king. just maximize plant foods and limit processed foods and animal products and you will be fine.

 

[Baldingman1998]

MS is the cause of low vit D mostly cause its most common in places with less sun, but its also genetic and still we dont know the real reasons.

Lean meat has no saturated fat

Diabetes simply has nothing to do with meat, meat is not connected to insulin in any way so thats cope

Meat has not shown to cause cancer other then a small increase of colon cancer, thats it

Nitric oxide is most available from sun not diet jfl, thats like saying vit D from diet which is a meme

Diabeties can develop from too much carbs over a long period of time. Carbs turn into glucose and if it's elevated 24/7 = higher chance to get diabetes.

Also insulin and hgh (best hormone for fat burning)
Have an inverse relationship which means that eating high carb and high glycemic foods multiple times a day can limit hgh production

 

[Carnivore]

many people are realizing a healthy vegan diet is the best possible for health and performance so they are transitioning. im not sure about muscle building though, you can take vegan protein powder if you need. and eating more plants gives you more energy and makes you rest faster, so you can train earlier again.

"Why are so many athletes going vegan?" They're not.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

It has much higher then all those things

Legumes in general are high (beans, lentils, peas, etc.).

 

[TsarTsar444]

Diabeties can develop from too much carbs over a long period of time. Carbs turn into glucose and if it's elevated 24/7 = higher chance to get diabetes.

Also insulin and hgh (best hormone for fat burning)
Have an inverse relationship which means that eating high carb and high glycemic foods multiple times a day can limit hgh production

Diabetes develops when you eat too much carbs with no physical activity

Fat burning is just CICO, hgh just makes your metabolism faster but thats like by 100kcal at best so its meh

 

[subhuman incel]

Diabeties can develop from too much carbs over a long period of time. Carbs turn into glucose and if it's elevated 24/7 = higher chance to get diabetes.

Also insulin and hgh (best hormone for fat burning)
Have an inverse relationship which means that eating high carb and high glycemic foods multiple times a day can limit hgh production

diabetes is cause from excess fat from animal products not carbs. the muscle cells are filled up from all this excess fat that the receptors cant respond to insulin anymore. so they sugar in blood cant be transported from the blood to the cell. blood sugar rises = diabetes.

 

[TsarTsar444]

diabetes is cause from excess fat from animal products not carbs. the muscle cells are filled up from all this excess fat that the receptors cant respond to insulin anymore. so they sugar in blood cant be transported from the blood to the cell. blood sugar rises = diabetes.

Correct, muscles use fat for energy and when there is abundant fat in there then sugar just sits in the blood. But it isn't just animal fat tho, fat is fat in the body after getting metabolized by the liver. Either way this isn't only the cause, diabetes type 2 is more complex then this

 

[Baldingman1998]

Vegan is technically the healthiest but only technically, well managed omnivore diet is good as well

Identical twins on meat vs vegan diet

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@lutte @Carnivore

 

[Baldingman1998]

diabetes is cause from excess fat from animal products not carbs. the muscle cells are filled up from all this excess fat that the receptors cant respond to insulin anymore. so they sugar in blood cant be transported from the blood to the cell. blood sugar rises = diabetes.

How do you explain skinny people with diabetes then?

 

[TsarTsar444]

Identical twins on meat bvs vegan diet

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@lutte @Carnivore

Idc tbh, im an omnivore

 

[Deleted member 14781]

The only meat statistic i care is about the meat i beat everyday (mine)

 

[lutte]

Identical twins on meat bvs vegan diet

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@lutte @Carnivore

Noooo bro they just didn’t do veganism the right way

 

[Baldingman1998]

Idc tbh, im an omnivore

Ok but meat eater put 4 kg of muscle while cuck vegan did not while they are identical twins=same DNA same person

 

[Cali Yuga]

a healthy vegan whole food plant based diet is the best diet for humans so stop the fucking cope.

look at the physiognomy of the people in the thumbnail

 

[TsarTsar444]

Ok but meat eater put 4 kg of muscle while cuck vegan did not while they are identical twins=same DNA same person

Vegan didn't do it right i think, scientifically this shouldn't make sense, beans + rice have all amino acids

 

[subhuman incel]

if you want to have diabetes explained, this dude explains it very well in like 2 minutes. 11:10 - 13:50. if you understand this process and why it happens and how to prevent it, you will know more than half of doctors in the US. @Baldingman1998

 

[Baldingman1998]

Noooo bro they just didn’t do veganism the right way

Vegan didn't do it right i think, scientifically this shouldn't make sense, beans + rice have all amino acids

 

[Deleted member 7509]

if you want to have diabetes explained, this dude explains it very well in like 2 minutes. 11:10 - 13:50. if you understand this process and why it happens and how to prevent it, you will know more than half of doctors in the US.

not gonna listen to this bs

Humans are meant to eat meat biologically. We have digestive system specifically designed for meat. We have teeth designed for meat. Cooking meat is one of the crucial reasons we evolved into smarter beings. It's literally the most important food for humans. If I had to choose just one food to eat until I die, it would have been some type of meat

 

[subhuman incel]

How do you explain skinny people with diabetes then?

thats because they eat an unhealthy diet with a lot of animal products and processed foods. you can still be thin and get heart disease, diabetes and cancer if you eat a bad diet for a very long time. watch the video i sent you , it explains it very well. mostly the fat from animal products cause it, but also oils.

 

[TsarTsar444]

if you want to have diabetes explained, this dude explains it very well in like 2 minutes. 11:10 - 13:50. if you understand this process and why it happens and how to prevent it, you will know more than half of doctors in the US. @Baldingman1998

Makes no sense, the extra fat that your muscle cells will not used simply gets transported to the fat cells in the submucosal tissue of your body lol, muscles cells can't get just over crowded with fat like that not how homeostasis works.

Also muscles primarily use fat as energy not glucose, glucose is used when muscles contract only, at rest they use fat

 

[subhuman incel]

not gonna listen to this bs

Humans are meant to eat meat biologically. We have digestive system specifically designed for meat. We have teeth designed for meat. Cooking meat is one of the crucial reasons we evolved into smarter beings. It's literally the most important food for humans. If I had to choose just one food to eat until I die, it would have been some type of meat

if you look at other carnivores , theyre digestive system is very different from ours. much longer i think. also the canine teeth is not sharp at all, you coulndt kill any animal just with that teeth lol. look at lion teeth, much more sharp. i dont care about how we evolved and about the past, i just care about now and which is the optimal and healthiest diet right now. guess what , our ancestors ate meat, but they never lived old enough to develop heart disease cause they died from other reasons.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Animal products are more protein-dense, but claiming that you can't get a healthy and complete amino acid intake with plants is asinine.

 

[Carnivore]

Identical twins on meat vs vegan diet

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@lutte @Carnivore

So the meat eater gained 4kg of muscle mass and the vegan gained none, that's all I got out of watching that.

 

[Carnivore]

if you want to have diabetes explained, this dude explains it very well in like 2 minutes. 11:10 - 13:50. if you understand this process and why it happens and how to prevent it, you will know more than half of doctors in the US. @Baldingman1998

 

[Baldingman1998]

Makes no sense, the extra fat that your muscle cells will not used simply gets transported to the fat cells in the submucosal tissue of your body lol, muscles cells can't get just over crowded with fat like that not how homeostasis works.

Also muscles primarily use fat as energy not glucose, glucose is used when muscles contract only, at rest they use fat

Exactly. Otherwise every meat eater would have diabetes and all vegans would not when that's not the case

 

[subhuman incel]

Makes no sense, the extra fat that your muscle cells will not used simply gets transported to the fat cells in the submucosal tissue of your body lol, muscles cells can't get just over crowded with fat like that not how homeostasis works.

Also muscles primarily use fat as energy not glucose, glucose is used when muscles contract only, at rest they use fat

can i ask you from where you all got this information from. it seems like you studied a lot about nutrition and human biology and health (even if not everything is 100% right ). are you studying medicine or you watch some videos on youtube or read some articles or studies on internet or talking with people? i learned most stuff from guys like dr. greger, neal barnard, esselstyn, joel fuhrman, mcdougall from youtube and also looking at some articles and study.

 

[subhuman incel]

Exactly. Otherwise every meat eater would have diabetes and all vegans would not when that's not the case

sometimes people have diabetes but dont even realize it. you need to have symptoms until you go to doctor. also it needs quite some time to develop over years. so you wont develop diabetes from eating meat once. and like i said not every vegan is healthy. you can eat a very bad vegan diet with coca cola, french fries, vegan ice cream, oreo, potatoe chips, much oils and sweets. and on the other hand a meat eater can eat a relatively healthy diet if he includes vegetables, fruits, beans and whole grains.

 

[TsarTsar444]

can i ask you from where you all got this information from. it seems like you studied a lot about nutrition and human biology and health (even if not everything is 100% right ). are you studying medicine or you watch some videos on youtube or read some articles or studies on internet or talking with people? i learned most stuff from guys like dr. greger, neal barnard, esselstyn, joel fuhrman, mcdougall from youtube and also looking at some articles and study.

Im a medical student duh, this is just common sense. There is this thing called homeostasis in your body, when you ingest fat, no matter how much it is, you muscles wont get "packed too much" cause they always use the same amount and the rest gets transported to the submucosal tissue in your body or lymph nodes as a different type of fat after getting metabolized in the liver. Glucose on the other hand is stored in the liver cells and when needed gets broken down through oxidation gets released by blood and used by muscle cells during strenuous contractions.

What causes diabetes type 2 now? Well its simply a broken homeostasis. And this can have a variety of reasons, but one of the most common is stress and cortisol. Cortisol is famous for breaking down homeostasis, and i cant be annoyed to expalin how now its way to long

 

[lutte]

Vegan didn't do it right i think, scientifically this shouldn't make sense, beans + rice have all amino acids

Maybe the model isn’t right then

 

[subhuman incel]

Maybe the model isn’t right then

best debate in history of all time

 

[Baldingman1998]

One of the best videos I have ever watched thanks bro

 

[TsarTsar444]

One of the best videos I have ever watched thanks bro

Cope cause your body will create glucose from the proteins and fat anyways jfl

 

[Baldingman1998]

Cope cause your body will create glucose from the proteins and fat anyways jfl

What ? How is this related? I'm confused. Did you watch the video?

 

[TsarTsar444]

What ? How is this related? I'm confused. Did you watch the video?

No i didn't, tldr me can't watch now my adhd is too spiked. Carnivore is technically the best for diabetes sure, but shouldn't change much

 

[subhuman incel]

thats what happens to your arteries when you go whole food plant based:

32:00 mins

 

[Baldingman1998]

No i didn't, tldr me can't watch now my adhd is too spiked. Carnivore is technically the best for diabetes sure, but shouldn't change much

TLDR: diabetes is not high blood sugar levels it's the cells resistance to insulin. Insulin resistance comes from insulin. Like everything in our body too much of something makes it resistant etc like drugs and shit etc.


Taking insulin or any drugs that lower blood sugar levels actually make diabeties worse than they already are but it's necessary to do so in the short term.

Gradually decrease the medication that lowers blood sugar levels
+

Fasting+low carb diet will cure diabeties

He also used real exmaples with proof etc