vito proves cheekbones are law

[FiendFiend]

Literally what deifnes a chad, usually having massive cheek bones that potrude out, as well as lean buccals.

If u have good zygos u hit the genetic lottery congrats. If u dont see their outline and them potruding ur not lean enough or u need buccal fat removal

 

[Wuzzdio]

Side does matter it’s literally how people see you 90% of the time

 

[Songe]

Having massive and chiseled zygos similar to vito and being tall made me a model so I agree. This is likely the more unique faciel trait to have

 

[FiendFiend]

Side does matter it’s literally how people see you 90% of the time

yes i agree, his side looked worse cuz he wasnt as lean. U can have a slighty shit mandible if u makeup for it with other features thats my point.

The main issue of why a recessed chin looks so shit is because of the fat under the chin, if that is removed and ur mandible is slightly recessed its not the end of the world + i think it looks better cuz it gives more pronouncation to the zygos.

For example sneako, pretty shit lower third

makes his zygo pop out way more. U need to be incredibly lean for this though or need surgery.

 

[hypernormie]

He has one bad feature but somehow "cheekbones are law" no nigga, everything else is law, so much so that people don't even notice his terrible chin

 

[FiendFiend]

He has one bad feature but somehow "cheekbones are law" no nigga, everything else is law, so much so that people don't even notice his terrible chin

his maxilla isnt great either though

he grew out the sides of his hair to fraud the sides of his face.

He does have amazing eyebrows, lashes and eyes though too.

But honestly, u would think if someone had a bad maxilla and bad chin it'd be over. Apperantly not.

 

[hypernormie]

his maxilla isnt great either though

he grew out the sides of his hair to fraud the sides of his face.

He does have amazing eyebrows, lashes and eyes though too.

But honestly, u would think if someone had a bad maxilla and bad chin it'd be over. Apperantly not.

Cheekbone prominence is more important than maxilla, so much so than you can even have effeminate cheekbones like Vito and it still ascends you despite poor maxilla

So you're kind of right

But really his appeal is his harmony + eye area

He literally has one major flaw, the other flaws aren't major compared to the normal population

 

[batemandamian]

his maxilla isnt great either though

he grew out the sides of his hair to fraud the sides of his face.

He does have amazing eyebrows, lashes and eyes though too.

But honestly, u would think if someone had a bad maxilla and bad chin it'd be over. Apperantly not.

His eye area is fucking insane. Probably the best eye area on these forums.

That long downturned medial canthus is one in 10s of millions

 

[batemandamian]

 

[hypernormie]

his maxilla isnt great either though

he grew out the sides of his hair to fraud the sides of his face.

He does have amazing eyebrows, lashes and eyes though too.

But honestly, u would think if someone had a bad maxilla and bad chin it'd be over. Apperantly not.

Upon further reflection you are right cheekbones are law.

I have a shit maxilla in a way, somewhat flat but I have large wide zygos so people don't really pay attention to my flattish maxilla. It's not really bad, but I have seen way better. Still my cheekbones dominate my face despite the lack of forward projection and most people would say I have good "cheekbones." I even had a chick I was fucking look at me from below and say "wow so it's all an illusion, your cheekbones are kinda flat" I was like wtf?? Well what she was noticing is that my cheekbones look great straight on but have very little forward projection when examined closely.

 

[FiendFiend]

Upon further reflection you are right cheekbones are law.

I have a shit maxilla in a way, somewhat flat but I have large wide zygos so people don't really pay attention to my flattish maxilla. It's not really bad, but I have seen way better. Still my cheekbones dominate my face despite the lack of forward projection and most people would say I have good "cheekbones." I even had a chick I was fucking look at me from below and say "wow so it's all an illusion, your cheekbones are kinda flat" I was like wtf?? Well what she was noticing is that my cheekbones look great straight on but have very little forward projection when examined closely.

i know some people are destroyed by their cheekbones , often cuz they r too wide, and it makes their face more fattier but honestly if u got good zygos theres no reason why u shouldnt pay the 3k to get buccal fat removal.

 

[hypernormie]

i know some people are destroyed by their cheekbones , often cuz they r too wide, and it makes their face more fattier but honestly if u got good zygos theres no reason why u shouldnt pay the 3k to get buccal fat removal.

Yeah same, my face is bordering in too wide. It's kind of good though because a small augmentation to my chin height (which isn't small by any means) will give me super ideal facial ratios.

I am considering buccal fat at some point. My main flaw is my eye area, I have bad undereyes support so that's my main focus, and I already get slight hollows at low bf so buccal fat is in the cards. I may just not need it though. I'm higher bf than normal rn because I'm recovering from an injury so it's hard to gauge how necessary further hollowing would be.

 

[FiendFiend]

Yeah same, my face is bordering in too wide. It's kind of good though because a small augmentation to my chin height (which isn't small by any means) will give me super ideal facial ratios.

I am considering buccal fat at some point. My main flaw is my eye area, I have bad undereyes support so that's my main focus, and I already get slight hollows at low bf so buccal fat is in the cards. I may just not need it though. I'm higher bf than normal rn because I'm recovering from an injury so it's hard to gauge how necessary further hollowing would be.

if u got bad under eye support just get midface filler. Im in the same spot, i have good zygos, had similiar chin to vitto, b4 my chin filler.

My uppermaxilla wasnt great either. So i got midface filler and my eyebags r gone. Im getting a cavitation machine ima see if I can melt all the fat under my chin and my cheeks ,if not ima just get surgery

 

[hypernormie]

if u got bad under eye support just get midface filler. Im in the same spot, i have good zygos, had similiar chin to vitto, b4 my chin filler.

My uppermaxilla wasnt great either. So i got midface filler and my eyebags r gone. Im getting a cavitation machine ima see if I can melt all the fat under my chin and my cheeks ,if not ima just get surgery

I'm planning on an implant tbh, to solve projection and support simultaneously. It's not terrible support or projection so it seems a minor implant could kill the birds with one stone

Why did you decide on filler over implants? Cost?

 

[FiendFiend]

I'm planning on an implant tbh, to solve projection and support simultaneously. It's not terrible support or projection so it seems a minor implant could kill the birds with one stone

Why did you decide on filler over implants? Cost?

yeah its cheap as fuck dude. Hylauronic midface filler is cheap asf, it looks better, lower risk and shit, parents more accepting of it.

Idk imo it looks super natural too. I dont want them putting some silicone shit in me

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

Indian frauding as italian

 

[hypernormie]

yeah its cheap as fuck dude. Hylauronic midface filler is cheap asf, it looks better, lower risk and shit, parents more accepting of it.

Idk imo it looks super natural too. I dont want them putting some silicone shit in me

I would just be scared of migration over time and having to think about constant refills is all but if you don't mind than yeah it makes sense

How much would you say it ascended you?

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Literally what deifnes a chad, usually having massive cheek bones that potrude out, as well as lean buccals.

If u have good zygos u hit the genetic lottery congrats. If u dont see their outline and them potruding ur not lean enough or u need buccal fat removal

Was proven long before vito basso

Water since pre ice age

 

[sub5outsider]

High set prominent cheekbones are literally the most high class trait ever .

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Upon further reflection you are right cheekbones are law.

I have a shit maxilla in a way, somewhat flat but I have large wide zygos so people don't really pay attention to my flattish maxilla. It's not really bad, but I have seen way better. Still my cheekbones dominate my face despite the lack of forward projection and most people would say I have good "cheekbones." I even had a chick I was fucking look at me from below and say "wow so it's all an illusion, your cheekbones are kinda flat" I was like wtf?? Well what she was noticing is that my cheekbones look great straight on but have very little forward projection when examined closely.

Exactly my cheekbones lmao,laterally out but no forward projection and bad infra cheekbone

 

[hypernormie]

Exactly my cheekbones lmao,laterally out but no forward projection and bad infra cheekbone

Same here bro

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Same here bro

I am planning on implants to get the zygos to close to vito Basso level or that Greyson dude on tiktok

 

[hypernormie]

I am planning on implants to get the zygos to close to vito Basso level or that Greyson dude on tiktok

Idk if Vito level is worth striving for but I do want implants to fix my infras and maybe slight projection if it's possible

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Idk if Vito level is worth striving for but I do want implants to fix my infras and maybe slight projection if it's possible

i need forward projection on the cheekbones and infras.it happened because my overbite since 10 yr old fucked my infras and horizontal ball like zygo projection

 

[hypernormie]

i need forward projection on the cheekbones and infras.it happened because my overbite since 10 yr old fucked my infras and horizontal ball like zygo projection

Atp I don't believe anything really "fucks" bone structure outside of extremely abnormal developmental environments.

I used to think maybe my braces or extractions caused my infras to be weak but it's just cope. Chances are if you really look, weak infras run in your family, they do in mine, at least on one parent's side.

Genetics are destiny.

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Atp I don't believe anything really "fucks" bone structure outside of extremely abnormal developmental environments.

I used to think maybe my braces or extractions caused my infras to be weak but it's just cope. Chances are if you really look, weak infras run in your family, they do in mine, at least on one parent's side.

Genetics are destiny.

Ain’t doxxing myself,but this is my side.I dont even fucking know if my overbite needs CW or CCW.in a pretty confused situation

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Ain’t doxxing myself,but this is my side.I dont even fucking know if my overbite needs CW or CCW.in a pretty confused situation

This pic is my side with jutting

 

[hypernormie]

Ain’t doxxing myself,but this is my side.I dont even fucking know if my overbite needs CW or CCW.in a pretty confused situation

Your overbite is caused by under rotation of your entire maxillofacial skeleton basically your face isn't compact enough/rotated upwards enough, hence the dorsal hump, long midface and overbite and small chin.

Very rough morph but see how simply rotating the whole face in the direction of the arrows immediately starts to improve the overall appearance

 

[hypernormie]

This pic is my side with jutting

Jutting helps because it gives the illusion your face is more compact by closing the distance between features

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Your overbite is caused by under rotation of your entire maxillofacial skeleton basically your face isn't compact enough/rotated upwards enough, hence the dorsal hump, long midface and overbite and small chin.

Very rough morph but see how simply rotating the whole face in the direction of the arrows immediately starts to improve the overall appearance

View attachment 4676289

Look at my morph

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Look at my morph

The front with jutting,its not a front morph

 

[hypernormie]

Look at my morph

Yes fixing individual features can show an improvement (and is more in like with what you can actually influence) but I'm order to best know how to fix the features you have to know what those features are lacking/what you are trying to emulate

The thing you need to fix is the lack of facial compactness or downwards vusual weight of your facial structure

Knowing this you can design a much more strategically accurate plan that targets the areas of your face that hold the most significance when immediately assessing overall skull rotation

I don't imagine this is easy to figure out but it's a start

 

[hypernormie]

The front with jutting,its not a front morph

You lack robustness, that's the main issue. You aren't that bad looking but you do have low dimorphism.

In fact I would say that's more important to address than specific ratios.

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Yes fixing individual features can show an improvement (and is more in like with what you can actually influence) but I'm order to best know how to fix the features you have to know what those features are lacking/what you are trying to emulate

The thing you need to fix is the lack of facial compactness or downwards vusual weight of your facial structure

Knowing this you can design a much more strategically accurate plan that targets the areas of your face that hold the most significance when immediately assessing overall skull rotation

I don't imagine this is easy to figure out but it's a start

My alar base is wide,For side i need djs i guess with ccw rotation,Need jaw angle implants after the surgery,Paranasal + Infra + zygo lateral implants to achieve to forwardness of the cheekbones as I know

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

You lack robustness, that's the main issue. You aren't that bad looking but you do have low dimorphism.

In fact I would say that's more important to address than specific ratios.

My gonions basically got Damn eliminated by the overbite and my long ramus is literally trapped by the bite and jaw position,bottom of upper teeth dont show that much when i smile with bite closed.Incisors are tipped inwards to meet lower incisors.molars and premolars somehow meet properly 65-70%.

 

[sick kunt31]

that guy is literally me

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Yes fixing individual features can show an improvement (and is more in like with what you can actually influence) but I'm order to best know how to fix the features you have to know what those features are lacking/what you are trying to emulate

The thing you need to fix is the lack of facial compactness or downwards vusual weight of your facial structure

Knowing this you can design a much more strategically accurate plan that targets the areas of your face that hold the most significance when immediately assessing overall skull rotation

I don't imagine this is easy to figure out but it's a start

This is the same image’s morph with alar base reduction,I guess the jaw surgery with ccw,jaw implants and lateral zygo implants

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Your overbite is caused by under rotation of your entire maxillofacial skeleton basically your face isn't compact enough/rotated upwards enough, hence the dorsal hump, long midface and overbite and small chin.

Very rough morph but see how simply rotating the whole face in the direction of the arrows immediately starts to improve the overall appearance

View attachment 4676289

My biggest concern is Even though my tallness passes to my son,is he gonna get this overbite? i developed the overbite since 10 years old Now I am 22 in may

 

[hypernormie]

My biggest concern is Even though my tallness passes to my son,is he gonna get this overbite? i developed the overbite since 10 years old Now I am 22 in may

I mean if you didn't suffer some extreme environmental insults it's likely a genetic thing

Maybe you can moneymaxx and embryomaxx and hardfoodmaxx to reduce the odds

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

I mean if you didn't suffer some extreme environmental insults it's likely a genetic thing

Maybe you can moneymaxx and embryomaxx and hardfoodmaxx to reduce the odds

No one except me has overbite in the family,My parents have normal bites and my grandparents too

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

I mean if you didn't suffer some extreme environmental insults it's likely a genetic thing

Maybe you can moneymaxx and embryomaxx and hardfoodmaxx to reduce the odds

All I remember is When I was 1 years old I hit a wall on the bottom of my chin and it bled out my mom took me to a doctor they tied the skin,I have a line shaped permanent scar under my chin

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

I mean if you didn't suffer some extreme environmental insults it's likely a genetic thing

Maybe you can moneymaxx and embryomaxx and hardfoodmaxx to reduce the odds

I have a fiancee,she thinks about kids but I am very 50/50.I don’t want skeletal discrepancies to pass to the kid.Yeah I didn’t even life a bad single life when I was single ,but still the overbite is mentally exhausting and really fucks up your mind

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

I mean if you didn't suffer some extreme environmental insults it's likely a genetic thing

Maybe you can moneymaxx and embryomaxx and hardfoodmaxx to reduce the odds

Extra question is ,Is it safe to do the ccw DJS in warsaw free with insurance ,out of pocket only paying for braces

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Extra question is ,Is it safe to do the ccw DJS in warsaw free with insurance ,out of pocket only paying for braces

I do not trust these insurance surgeons that much because they sometimes go too conservative and don’t even advance enough

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

He has one bad feature but somehow "cheekbones are law" no nigga, everything else is law, so much so that people don't even notice his terrible chin

I’d rather have vito’s chin instead of my own mentalis muscle labiomental fold abomination

 

[hypernormie]

All I remember is When I was 1 years old I hit a wall on the bottom of my chin and it bled out my mom took me to a doctor they tied the skin,I have a line shaped permanent scar under my chin

Your face does not look the way it foes because you hit a wall lol

 

[hypernormie]

I have a fiancee,she thinks about kids but I am very 50/50.I don’t want skeletal discrepancies to pass to the kid.Yeah I didn’t even life a bad single life when I was single ,but still the overbite is mentally exhausting and really fucks up your mind

If you're at all debating having a child you probably shouldn't have one

 

[hypernormie]

Extra question is ,Is it safe to do the ccw DJS in warsaw free with insurance ,out of pocket only paying for braces

Idk I'm not from Poland

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Idk I'm not from Poland

I got a short sfs lower jaw/third,doesn’t ccw fuck that up?

 

[FacialStructure404]

more ropefuel for a zygoless meltingcel like me