What are some breakthroughs in Looksmaxxing that would ascend so many people.

[Saint Casanova]

I’ll list two:
-Genetic editing
- An area that might be overlooked ( biomaterial science). This could allow us to modify our frame and height to a reasonably well extent if we could find the right material to use!

 

[Ranjeet Dipshit]

what is generic editing?

 

[Saint Casanova]

what is generic editing?

Typo I meant genetic editing. Like Crispr

 

[Deleted member 18582]

I think we already there, its possible to custom design literal face masks to augment your entire face now

All that remains is perfecting the art of making sure it can look natural in 100% of cases

 

[Ranjeet Dipshit]

I don't think genetic engineering will be socially accepted just like eugenics

 

[Saint Casanova]

I think we already there, its possible to custom design literal face masks to augment your entire face now

All that remains is perfecting the art of making sure it can look natural in 100% of cases

Yeah that’s the hard part, although things like height and frame changes after growth is hard due to lack adequate materials to ensure natural function. Imagine we can use some sort of biomaterial that can mimic our biceps and increase its size.

As for gene editing, we’re still a far way off tbh. As of right now, we can maybe alter epigenes

 

[Saint Casanova]

I don't think genetic engineering will be socially accepted just like eugenics

I think it would tbh because there’s a lot of money that could be made… but only for the ultra wealthy probably. Just like advanced anti-aging techniques.

 

[Napoleon de Geso]

Modifying female's brain so they could find bigger variety of men as attractive

 

[Saint Casanova]

Up

 

[Saint Casanova]

This is such an interesting area-

I love that question cuz we're SO close but SO away from gamechanging technology

- Implants made of bone material that are customizable and will integrate with your existing bone.

- Distraction osteogenesis technology developing and becoming widespread.

- Stroma coming out.

- Stem cells to reopen growth plates.

- Manipulation of soft tissue (not sure by which mechanisms)

I think the most viable ones right now are Stroma and advances in Distraction osteogenesis. I wish customisable bone implants could come out sooner, but it’s likely to take decades as there needs to be advancements in bone transplants; ensuring our body’s immunity doesn’t attack the implant ect. Similar thing with Stem Cells plus altering our height at adulthood could have unintended consequences.

I’m sure if Looksmaxxing became completely mainstream, we would get advancements quicker as doctors and researchers will have an incentive to push the envelope, but this will come at a cost as completion will skyrocket!

 

[Saint Casanova]

I love that question cuz we're SO close but SO away from gamechanging technology

- Implants made of bone material that are customizable and will integrate with your existing bone.

- Distraction osteogenesis technology developing and becoming widespread (specially craniofacially).

- Stroma coming out.

- Stem cells to reopen growth plates.

- Manipulation of soft tissue (not sure by which mechanisms)

I think new compounds such as effective myostatin inhibitors and a way of effectively altering our muscle fibre type and size is another area that should be explored tbh.

 

[Whatashame]

I don't think genetic engineering will be socially accepted just like eugenics

eugenics dont mk sense, genetic eng is diff

 

[Whatashame]

geneticv diff will never be actually useful, other than treating diseases society itself created

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

I don't think genetic engineering will be socially accepted just like eugenics

The issue with that is multi millionaires, billionaires, and other elites will have access to it while the rest (99+%) of the population would be denied it and would be called unethical.

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

eugenics dont mk sense, genetic eng is diff

Nah people have issues with literal pgt babies which is just selecting the best embryo combination of the mother and father with 0 editing

 

[Saint Casanova]

geneticv diff will never be actually useful, other than treating diseases society itself created

Of course it would. We’re very close to creating designer babies, I’m sure once Crispr is fully developed, we could alter many things. Once again though, it would probably be available for ultra rich members of society who will use it secretly.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Nah people have issues with literal pgt babies which is just selecting the best embryo combination of the mother and father with 0 editing

What about selective IVF? Where you choose the sperm and the egg that has the best genetic quality ?

If you’re rich enough, you’ll have so many options in the near future and you won’t care about muh ethics. Plus a lot of these will be used secretly without the plebs knowing!

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

What about selective IVF? Where you choose the sperm and the egg that has the best genetic quality ?

If you’re rich enough, you’ll have so many options in the near future and you won’t care about muh ethics. Plus a lot of these will be used secretly without the plebs knowing!

That's literally pgt nigga. Its the proper name for the process of selecting the best embryo during IVF implanting

 

[Saint Casanova]

True. There's that new LL tech around the corner, Stryde something? And a very select number of professionals doing DO on jaws


True


It has been mainstream for centuries. However this specific movement is so extreme because it's lonely online young men who instead of taking a band-aid solution delve way too fucking deep into shit (and turn mentally ill in the process). Also the internet giving people the ability to overanalyze an abundance of information.

But the holy grail isn't holy if everyone has it. So either it's too risky (because the technological sophistication isn't there) or too exorbitantly expensive (if the technology IS there)



Haven't heard of that. it changes muscle insertions in theory?

Do any of those docs do it for aesthetics ?

If you have the mental capacity and capability, all these could be extremely useful. It’s best to be pragmatic and realistic though.


- That’s true. The higher the risk, the higher the possible reward though in most cases. And you get what you pay for as well; anything worthwhile is expensive.

- Myostatin is a protein. With low levels of Myostatin, we could grow much more muscle. Have you ever seen those huge cattle full of muscle? That’s because they have low myostatin. In terms of muscle insertions, I’m guessing theoretically there could be some complex surgeries that changes the muscle origin attachment but you’ll most likely need bio materials for that.

 

[Whatashame]

Of course it would. We’re very close to creating designer babies, I’m sure once Crispr is fully developed, we could alter many things. Once again though, it would probably be available for ultra rich members of society who will use it secretly.

it will not. But believe in it iwth you want. Science is always "close to somethign epic"

 

[Saint Casanova]

That's literally pgt nigga. Its the proper name for the process of selecting the best embryo during IVF implanting

I’m already planning to store sperm before cycling so why shouldn’t me and my wife do that in the future? Nothing wrong with giving our child the best genetic quality possible ? Who gives a fuck about morals nowadays. It’s a selfish world either way.

 

[Saint Casanova]

it will not. But believe in it iwth you want. Science is always "close to somethign epic"

Lots of epic things have happened due to science over the last few decades. From successful organ transplants to the development and implementation of the semi-conductor creating the modern day computer. I can give so many examples both medically and for other sciences.

Remember we went from not understand the structure of an atom to mapping the genome after less than 200 years!

 

[Saint Casanova]

it will not. But believe in it iwth you want. Science is always "close to somethign epic"

Explain why ? Impossible due to technological limitations, lack of interest or funding, moral issues ?

 

[Whatashame]

Explain why ? Impossible due to technological limitations, lack of interest or funding, moral issues ?

because humans will never change nature in such a drastic way. It never was able to, the only thing it does is creating expectations on ingenuous peopole.

 

[Whatashame]

you are not a human who for some reason has genes, you are literally only the machine that the gene uses to transport itself. I recommend the book the selfish gene by Dawkings. A thing that would allow people to change its genetic code in impactful ways is as absurd to nature as something like infinite energy.

 

[Whatashame]

Lots of epic things have happened due to science over the last few decades. From successful organ transplants to the development and implementation of the semi-conductor creating the modern day computer. I can give so many examples both medically and for other sciences.

Remember we went from not understand the structure of an atom to mapping the genome after less than 200 years!

Give more examples then.

Creation of the computer doesnt challenge nature in any way and i dont see how its pertinent in the topic. Organ transplant is a way to save lifes but it comes with a high risk, its not like "Oh well let me change its genetic code to create a superhuman!.

 

[Lethbridge]

because humans will never change nature in such a drastic way. It never was able to, the only thing it does is creating expectations on ingenuous peopole.

We've drastically changed nature countless times, just look at all our produce. Our vegetables and fruits and shit are completely changed verisons of wild plants.

 

[Lethbridge]

you are not a human who for some reason has genes, you are literally only the machine that the gene uses to transport itself. I recommend the book the selfish gene by Dawkings. A thing that would allow people to change its genetic code in impactful ways is as absurd to nature as something like infinite energy.

Retarded argument. Humans can exhibit behavior that's counterproductive to passing down genes. Just look at suicide.

 

[Saint Casanova]

because humans will never change nature in such a drastic way. It never was able to, the only thing it does is creating expectations on ingenuous peopole.

you are not a human who for some reason has genes, you are literally only the machine that the gene uses to transport itself. I recommend the book the selfish gene by Dawkings. A thing that would allow people to change its genetic code in impactful ways is as absurd to nature as something like infinite energy.

I know the book. Remember that as of right now, our understanding of genetics is still sadly limited and that this book has several flaws. Our genetic code is just an arrangement of molecules in a specific order, it’s not as grandiose as you make it out to be. Don’t forget our generic code can vary a lot generation after generation.

- and this thing is already available, there has been numerous studies showing it’s efficacy in changing genes. They’re just fine tuning it. We’ve changed the genes of animals to a very large extent. Why can’t we do the same for humans ? I can post several studies and examples if you’d like?

 

[Saint Casanova]

We've drastically changed nature countless times, just look at all our produce. Our vegetables and fruits and shit are completely changed verisons of wild plants.

Exactly even with farm animals now!

 

[Member since 2022]

Wtf is this.. actual discussion... I can't believe it

Too bad i am low IQ to join it but it's refreshing to see this instead of 100's threads from @heightislife198 about height..

Keep up the good work you guys

 

[Saint Casanova]

Give more examples then.

Creation of the computer doesnt challenge nature in any way and i dont see how its pertinent in the topic. Organ transplant is a way to save lifes but it comes with a high risk, its not like "Oh well let me change its genetic code to create a superhuman!.

Taking anabolic steroids and exogenous compounds for example. We are taking away the control of our hormones based on genetic instructions and instead introducing pharmaceutical substances that can: increase our height past our genetic limit, increase our muscle mass past our genetic limit ect. Not to mention the epigenetic implications of this. We are, by your definition, cheating natures to quite a large extent with this example.

 

[Lethbridge]

Exactly even with farm animals now!

Fr. But I think we're probably still a long way away from fetus editing at will. We're not even done mapping the genome and even once we're done, to have on-demand fetus editing we'd have to figure out how to

-reconstruct the segments responsible for the edit
-replace all instances of that gene in the fetus, everywhere it appears
-do that all without killing the fetus, and most likely while the fetus is still in the mother and at a very early stage

Even without considering the ethics and long process of getting this legalized, I feel like this stuff still won't be done until I'm elderly. But maybe AI can speed things up.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Taking anabolic steroids and exogenous compounds for example. We are taking away the control of our hormones based on genetic instructions and instead introducing pharmaceutical substances that can: increase our height past our genetic limit, increase our muscle mass past our genetic limit ect. Not to mention the epigenetic implications of this. We are, by your definition, cheating natures to quite a large extent with this example.

IVF is another example. We all know natures way of procreation, but what about IVF which works? You are taking an egg and sperm and inducing fertilisation outside of the body, no other species could do this ? Aren’t we cheating the laws of nature here ? Like mentioned before we now have the capability of choosing the best quality sperm and egg with the lowest DNA fragmentation. Isn’t that cheating the laws of nature too ? What about the fact that the laws of nature has consequently made some people unable to procreate naturally ( like you said genes are selfish) and we’re bypassing that with things like IVF?

 

[Saint Casanova]

While the idea is nice, and could even maybe be feasible, what @Whatashame said still stands. It'd completely break us as biological living beings. Because what would you do next? Everyone begins crafting humans as close to perfection as possible? Sexual selection instantly vanishes? Everyone is the exact same on some Brave New World shit?

In practice it'll be heavily heavily restricted for disorders and shit. The rich fucks wouldn't allow it to run rampant.

I COULD see IVF developing a lot though.

It might break us, but it’s possible. The laws of nature aren’t a thing. It’s just biology and the sciences. It’s just that we still have a lack of understanding on a lot of things and ways of applying our theories. Unless of course; there is divine intervention!

 

[Saint Casanova]

It might break us, but it’s possible. The laws of nature aren’t a thing. It’s just biology and the sciences. It’s just that we still have a lack of understanding on a lot of things and ways of applying our theories. Unless of course; there is divine intervention!

But I can’t force my view onto anyone tbh. This is very philosophical as well and depends on your own personal Beliefs!

 

[Lethbridge]

While the idea is nice, and could even maybe be feasible, what @Whatashame said still stands. It'd completely break us as biological living beings. Because what would you do next? Everyone begins crafting humans as close to perfection as possible? Sexual selection instantly vanishes? Everyone is the exact same on some Brave New World shit?

Shit like social media and porn is breaking our brains already. We have always progressed technology first and then dealt with the ramifications afterwards. This will be no different.

In practice it'll be heavily heavily restricted for disorders and shit. The rich fucks wouldn't allow it to run rampant.

I COULD see IVF developing a lot though. That makes the most sense. Selecting the best sperm/eggs

I don't know, I don't really see why the people in power would care. Concentration of power these days already lies in so much more than biology. Even the most heavily gene edited perfect person is still going to get mowed down by guns, still going to have no chance against institutions and systems of control.

Even if you somehow managed to CRISPR a man with 200% muscle strength of a normal person, he's probably still less dangerous than 3 men with guns and explosives.

 

[Lethbridge]

In practice it'll be heavily heavily restricted for disorders and shit. The rich fucks wouldn't allow it to run rampant.

The biggest threat to ruling classes has and will always be social upheaval

 

[Mewton]

Reopening growth plates

Hair follicle regeneration

Legit anti aging

 

[Saint Casanova]

Shit like social media and porn is breaking our brains already. We have always progressed technology first and then dealt with the ramifications afterwards. This will be no different.

I don't know, I don't really see why the people in power would care. Concentration of power these days already lies in so much more than biology. Even the most heavily gene edited perfect person is still going to get mowed down by guns, still going to have no chance against institutions and systems of control.

Even if you somehow managed to CRISPR a man with 200% muscle strength of a normal person, he's probably still less dangerous than 3 men with guns and explosives.

I could imagine in the distant future, armies injecting soldiers with something akin to Super soldier serum or Mirakuru jfl.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Reopening growth plates

Hair follicle regeneration

Legit anti aging

hair follicle regeneration could be achieved with stem cells, same with growth plates (potentially). Stem cells are such a promising area of medicine and biology. Anti-aging is another interesting area. I think the super rich know a lot more than we do however ( A-chrome).

 

[Mewton]

hair follicle regeneration could be achieved with stem cells, same with growth plates (potentially). Stem cells are such a promising area of medicine and biology. Anti-aging is another interesting area. I think the super rich know a lot more than we do however ( A-chrome).

Stemcells can treat many other chronic degenerative diseases too
But I don't think it is going to be mainstream any soon

 

[Saint Casanova]

Lol that's fair. I'm not thinking about it too deeply, I'm just imaging a world where everyone looks/behaves kind of in the same way. Feel like it'd take the passion and magic out of life. True, inequality sucks. We all wish we were stronger and smarter and better looking. But we don't wish that EVERYONE was like that, no, we wish we were the top 1% .

But thinking about it for more than one second it would probably save us. The problem with humans is that we have the brain we had 10 thousand years ago. The exact same structures, mechanisms, and workings. In simple words, that is the root source of literally all our problems: the fact we have monkey brain in non-monkey world. That we're irrational and greedy and violent lazy and scared and remorseful and weak-minded.

If we coded our genes in such a way to actually take our intellect and genetics to the next level, past this primitive limit, that would be the only path to salvation

I sadly think all this would only be available for the super rich to use and play with. There always was and has been a top class of attractiveness, power and I doubt the people at the top would want that. I always had a theory that this planet was a prison planet designed by higher life forms to feed on our energies. Ever heard of that theory?

I sadly think the future will probably be similar to the movie Elysium. Earth will be at a breaking point due to lack of resources, overpopulation ect and the rich would’ve escaped to a huge space station or maybe Mars if they managed to terraform it.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Stemcells can treat many other chronic degenerative diseases too
But I don't think it is going to be mainstream any soon

I agree especially with Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s where they can replace damaged cells.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Man I don't like thinking about that because of how depressing it is.

There's this amazing volume in the GOAT comic series Sandman about it, really philosophical/symbolic:

If every single person woke up one day and decided to change the world, the world would change that very second.. but it will never happen, no matter how possible.

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Quote is so true. If everyone worked together, we would have fixed so many issues, advanced way beyond our imaginations. Sadly that’s not the case, so we have to be selfish and do what’s best for us individually!

 

[Whatashame]

We've drastically changed nature countless times, just look at all our produce. Our vegetables and fruits and shit are completely changed verisons of wild plants.

what i meant is that we didnt changed nature in a profound way. Changing the food only fucks our bodies but overtime nature will keep being the same. Changing one significant genetic code is changing somethig fundamental to how species work.

 

[Whatashame]

Retarded argument. Humans can exhibit behavior that's counterproductive to passing down genes. Just look at suicide.

thats not an argument. Its a fact, if you cant see it its not my problem. Suicide is only a sthing in modern environment where the stress over one can be so much. If one gene is with so muc hstress that it doesnt think it should be worth it to be passed down it ends its life.

 

[Whatashame]

I know the book. Remember that as of right now, our understanding of genetics is still sadly limited and that this book has several flaws. Our genetic code is just an arrangement of molecules in a specific order, it’s not as grandiose as you make it out to be. Don’t forget our generic code can vary a lot generation after generation.

- and this thing is already available, there has been numerous studies showing it’s efficacy in changing genes. They’re just fine tuning it. We’ve changed the genes of animals to a very large extent. Why can’t we do the same for humans ? I can post several studies and examples if you’d like?

oh yeah? which useful and impactful genetic code we changed in animals? other than fucking salmons so they can be sold a year earlier? Again, is not what i meant to be, its reality. Genes are a pillar of evolution, that is a pillar of all live beings on earth.

 

[Lethbridge]

what i meant is that we didnt changed nature in a profound way. Changing the food only fucks our bodies but overtime nature will keep being the same. Changing one significant genetic code is changing somethig fundamental to how species work.

I'm sorry but you seem retarded and genuinely incapable of forming logically consistent arguments

 

[Whatashame]

Taking anabolic steroids and exogenous compounds for example. We are taking away the control of our hormones based on genetic instructions and instead introducing pharmaceutical substances that can: increase our height past our genetic limit, increase our muscle mass past our genetic limit ect. Not to mention the epigenetic implications of this. We are, by your definition, cheating natures to quite a large extent with this example.

no, you are just chaning the hormones. Its not changing the genes in a base way, thats the thing. Increasing your height, chanigng your skin/eye colour, giving one better bone structure it will never be possible. We are changing nature in not drastic ways for nature, the way we change hurts other animals and humans but if humans go extinct nowadays nature would go into its harmonious state over time. In a hypothetic world where someone is able to dictate with precision how one human will be born, evolution completely stops making sense, something that never ever happened in the history of the world.