what kind of PSL required to bang these girls

idk nigga the world is a confusing place and we are all trying to figure it out

In the end all of you are speaking from your perspective, experiences, research, whatever

it could be anything
It makes no sense. Thing is the blackpill has hard evidence backing it up. Tinder experiments, studies etc. All these anecdotes have little weight. Even if a few ugly guys have success, we can't expect the same to happen to us. Basically, everyone should still looksmax to an acceptable level and then play numbers game.
 
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It makes no sense. Thing is the blackpill has hard evidence backing it up. Tinder experiments, studies etc. All these anecdotes have little weight. Even if a few ugly guys have success, we can't expect the same to happen to us. Basically, everyone should still looksmax to an acceptable level and then play numbers game.
yeah i guess bro

but tbh you cant meander on this stuff forever
 
You should dickmax tbh. It'll help you keep her on your rotation. Ofcourse, in addition to your surgeries and gymcelling etc. Do you really enjoy banging random women like this? I'd just try to LTR a hot girl rather than stay her fwb.
i thought dickmaxxing was cope and doesn't even work? Or like spend 3 years streching to gain like 1/2 cm or something. Not sure I could be bothered

Surgeries are really my only goal. rhino and/or some sort of genio. I just worry about it throwing something off which was really the whole point of this thread. Persumably there's something about my face that at least some quite cute girls like, and I worry that surgery could throw off whatever that thing is!

I don't really want an LTR or a girlfriend. In an ideal world i'd be good looking and slaying a new really hot teenager each weekend. No commitments
 
i thought dickmaxxing was cope and doesn't even work? Or like spend 3 years streching to gain like 1/2 cm or something. Not sure I could be bothered

Surgeries are really my only goal. rhino and/or some sort of genio. I just worry about it throwing something off which was really the whole point of this thread. Persumably there's something about my face that at least some quite cute girls like, and I worry that surgery could throw off whatever that thing is!

I don't really want an LTR or a girlfriend. In an ideal world i'd be good looking and slaying a new really hot teenager each weekend. No commitments
If your nose and chin are very fucked up, then you can only look better. Genio is def a low risk surgery that almost always improves your looks. Maybe, rhino is a bit more risky but that depends on whether you are trying to remove a nasal hump or something more complex where you are trying to narrow down the nose by trimming cartilage etc. Basically, you can only expect to look better if they are objectively bad features. When you try to perfect an already average or above average feature, you risk looking worse.
 
i thought dickmaxxing was cope and doesn't even work? Or like spend 3 years streching to gain like 1/2 cm or something. Not sure I could be bothered
Nope. Lots of people here have gotten good results from using extenders and bathmat. It takes time but it works. Getting 1 inch will take a year of wearing an extender for several hours a day. If you are like 6-6.5 right now, you can end up 7-7.5, which is quite big. 2 inches would take a lot more time and effort and I guess it's close to the natural limit for most dudes.
 
If your nose and chin are very fucked up, then you can only look better. Genio is def a low risk surgery that almost always improves your looks. Maybe, rhino is a bit more risky but that depends on whether you are trying to remove a nasal hump or something more complex where you are trying to narrow down the nose by trimming cartilage etc. Basically, you can only expect to look better if they are objectively bad features. When you try to perfect an already average or above average feature, you risk looking worse.
let me give you some examples

I sent someone my pic today and he said my nose ''goes well'' with my face although seemed to agree it was a bit big.
On the jawsurgery forum, the main guy there who knows his shit said it was my nose that is big as opposed to my jaw and chin being bad.

I personally think the problem is that they are both bad, but not terrible. I used to sometimes think my big nose was making my chin look small, and other days i'd think mym small chin was making my nose look big! I'm pretty sure it's actually both

Another guy on the jaw suergery forum also admitted my nose was a bit big and had big flared nostrils, but he told me it made me look like a bad boy and gave me a 'snarl' and an 'edge' and said not to change it. That's the sort of thing I worry about when it comes to surgery. Losing that 'thing' (in his example my flared nostrils giving me a certain badboy look lol. His words. Not mine). Something i'm unaware of but that has helped me

Another example is that I sometimes think my shitty chin is what makes me look younger than I am and since i tend to only want girls way way younger than me, i don't mind that. Maybe if my chin was better i'd never have banged that 17 year old a few years back!!

These are the sort of things that go through my head and was the point of this thread tbh. Not to brag about sleeping with a few tarts lol
 
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let me give you some examples

I sent someone my pic today and he said my nose ''goes well'' with my face although seemed to agree it was big.
On the jawsurgery forum, the main guy there who knows his shit said it was my nose that is big as opposed to my jaw and chin being bad.

I personally think the problem is that they are both bad, but not terrible. I used to sometimes think my big nose was making my chin look small, and other days i'd think mym small chin was making my nose look big! I'm pretty sure it's actually both

Another guy on the jaw suergery forum also admitted my nose was a bit big and had big flared nostrils, but he told me it made me look like a bad boy and gave me a 'snarl' and an 'edge' and said not to change it. That's the sort of thing I worry about when it comes to surgery. Losing that 'thing' (in his example my flared nostrils giving me a certain badboy look lol. His words. Not mine)

Another example is that I sometimes think my shitty chin is what makes me look young and since i tend to only want girls way way younger than me, i don't mind that. Maybe if my chin was better i'd never have banged that 17 year old a few years back!!

These are the sort of things that go through my head and was the point of this thread tbh. Not to brag about sleeping with a few tarts lol
What you should do is make realistic morphs of yourself with a different nose and chin and test them on online dating apps. That should give you a definitive answer. Biggest ascensions are usually birdcels so that's some lifefuel for you.
 
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@Xangsane what are your thoughts on this slayer? It doesn't make sense especially with your tinder experiments.
He's gymmaxxed, NT, white. That's all.
 
my face is far far from chad. PSL 3.5 from memory (lookism rating a few years back)

My body is OK in that pic, but it doesn't look like that now. I'm a bit of a fat ass and too embarassed to post a body pic I think!

Also, I got laid a lot less at the time of that body pic. That was before I even cold approached and I was also more of a shut-in
I don’t get it… I’m from same nation and mogg you to the Astro realm yet can’t get a girl on this level… then again I did fuck ethnic stacy recently but that’s different I cannot get a white girl that looks like this
 
“UK is hard mode bro !!!”
It is… this guy has to be larping it’s impossible for this to even be remotely true he must be rich or extremely high status aka semi famous to even get this level Of attention I jsut don’t understand I cannot wrap my head around this
 
He's gymmaxxed, NT, white. That's all.
But he's admittedly subhuman who's old and balding with big nose and recessed jaws. Also, 5'8". Claims to be a fatass now. What gives? He could be a bluepill infiltrator.
 
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But he's admittedly subhuman who's old and balding with big nose and recessed jaws. Also, 5'8". Claims to be a fatass now. What gives? He could be a bluepill infiltrator.
Again, he's very nt
Where is he from?
 
UK. South east. A lot these accounts are probably LARPs. Maybe. IDK.
That is surprising. He seems gymmaxxed and nt and that's important. Plus good game

My aspie fish has a good set of matches now (40 something) but convos fizzle out after a while
 
i've never gone too a bar alone other than when I went travlling to Budapest. (i've written about my budapest experience before here. Fun)

I go with friends. It's just a bit weird to go alone here in the UK, but if I lived in the US where people are just way more social and stuff i'd probably give it a go
I went out in Eastern Europe with people I had just met in hostels. But in the UK Idk what to do- in a club it matters less because no one can really tell you’re there alone because it’s so crowded
 
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was brilliant. I've written about my experience a few times so won't go into it again, but I had a great time, made even better because I made friends with 2 mega fun, low inhibnition US marines
lol when I went I just ended up with a bunch of incels and the whole hostel was a sausage fest. Of al te places I visited it was the only one I didn’t even manage a kiss srs
 
I went out in Eastern Europe with people I had just met in hostels. But in the UK Idk what to do- in a club it matters less because no one can really tell you’re there alone because it’s so crowded
exactly. Club is easier to be alone, especially if it's late and busy. You just blend in easier
lol when I went I just ended up with a bunch of incels and the whole hostel was a sausage fest. Of al te places I visited it was the only one I didn’t even manage a kiss srs
on my 1st night there i just kicked it with a dude i got chatting too who kinda gave off slightly incel vibes, although he was nice and I was grateful of the company! On the 2nd night i met these 2 US marine slayers and it was pure fun from there. They were just balls of charisma! The hostel was also full of teenage girls pretty much lol.
 
exactly. Club is easier to be alone, especially if it's late and busy. You just blend in easier

on my 1st night there i just kicked it with a dude i got chatting too who kinda gave off slightly incel vibes, although he was nice and I was grateful of the company! On the 2nd night i met these 2 US marine slayers and it was pure fun from there. They were just balls of charisma! The hostel was also full of teenage girls pretty much lol.
What hostel did you stay at? I wanna go again this summer because I feel like I just stayed at a shit hostel
 
it was called the hive party hostel
A h yeah I’ve heard that’s good I was debating that one but the German guy I was with said Vitae was the place to be so I went with that. Was a total sausage fest the days I was there with 0 females
 
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you idiots don't understand it, if the girl is alone and isnt dating anyone and a guy who is above her minimal looks threshold approaches her he will pick her up, she might prefer if he is gigachad and the better looking he is the easier it will be for him to get laid.

I know cuz its same for me, if the girl is HOT AF i will tolerate a bit more of her bullshit then from a average/above average girl.
But if a girl is cute and my exact type and wants to fuck as much as i want im gonna date her instead of some other hotter chick who gives me shit and doesnt want to fuck that much.

For example if a girl sets up 7 dates for a week and you are the last of those dates, even tho you are gigachad it is unlikely that she will meet you, she will flake or cancel because one of the 6 guys even tho they might be HTN or normie or chadlite she will like enough and bang.

Its all about being the first guy + minimal threshold in looks + personality and you got yourself a lay there
 
That is surprising. He seems gymmaxxed and nt and that's important. Plus good game

My aspie fish has a good set of matches now (40 something) but convos fizzle out after a while
Same with some of my chad morphs tbh. They don't get many matches. I used one morph and I had a conversation with a girl who accused me of catfishing so I guess foids aren't as dumb as we think and realize the pics are fake/edited. It's hard to make realistic morphs tbh. We need better tools than photoshop and faceapp. I mean faceapp is very good but the filters make people look uncanny.
 
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Although I had a hair transplant recently so that's hopefully one less thing! I still want rhino next.


Only been 4 months so I still have a lot of growth to come in theory, but even if I didn't have anymore growth, I'd be very happy with my result. I got lucky, man. I went to some cheap place in the UK and risked being butchered lol
 
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Only been 4 months so I still have a lot of growth to come in theory, but even if I didn't have anymore growth, I'd be very happy with my result. I got lucky, man. I went to some cheap place in the UK and risked being butchered lol
the result looks insane, good for you. perfect straight line and density also looks good (y)(y)

how many grafts and how much did you pay? FUE or FUT?
 
the result looks insane, good for you. perfect straight line and density also looks good (y)(y)

how many grafts and how much did you pay? FUE or FUT?
I had such a result. I was supposed to go to Turkey but corona screwed me over so I rolled the dice and went with some really cheap guys fairly local to me. Their pics looked good (in particular those of the surgeon I chose) but I did read some very worrying things about them just after i'd paid my deposit! So I was really expecting the worst but already at only 4 months with a lot of growth to come (in theory) i'm pretty happy with it. I hid the whole thing from all of my friends and family, too! A mixture of hats and keeping my existing hair long so that i could fraud and hide it!

I paid 2k GBP. So considering I didn't need to travel by plane with hotels etc, it was even cheaper than turkey! FUE
 
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I paid 2k GBP. So considering I didn't need to travel by plane with hotels etc, it was even cheaper than turkey! FUE
wtf that's so cheap. teach me some of your jewish negotiations skills, even with FUE, holy crap. good job
 
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@wristcel larpcels, only Larpers here.

no way u get so many girl if u r 3psl. even chars get rejected alot from cold approach so thats not your real facial rating. pm me your pic nigga.

@MoeZart u r 4.5psl someone said stop larping. everyone can slay here only truecels like me or @FastBananaCEO can't
 
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@/data/avatars/s/7/7098.jpg?1639414297 @MoeZart u r 4.5psl someone said stop larping
i'm 26 and look like a starved child that just snuck out of Auschwitz :lul: i'm barely above average facially, maybe 5.5/10 so that's similar to 4.5 PSL
 
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i'm 26 and looked like a starved child that just snuck out of a Auschwitz :lul: i'm barely above average facially, maybe 5.5/10 so that's similar to 4.5 PSL
pm me pic bro i cant believe this shit
 
@wristcel larpcels, only Larpers here.

no way u get so many girl if u r 3psl. even chars get rejected alot from cold approach so thats not your real facial rating. pm me your pic nigga.

@MoeZart u r 4.5psl someone said stop larping. everyone can slay here only truecels like me or @FastBananaCEO can't
Yeah. But he did post a pic of his hairline. Pretty subhuman tbh.

Could be he has chad jaw and eye area to make it up. @wristcel is prolly 5 PSL and very NT.

@MoeZart is just trying to seek attention. He is probably 5 PSL range too.
 
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Yeah. But he did post a pic of his hairline. Pretty subhuman tbh.

Could be he has chad jaw and eye area to make it up. @wristcel is prolly 5 PSL and very NT.

@MoeZart is just trying to seek attention. He is probably 5 PSL range too.
yea only a few here are really hated by girls and cant get them like me. most guys here look normie + autistic.
 
yea only a few here are really hated by girls and cant get them like me. most guys here look normie + autistic.
Cope. Most here are like 3/10. Might I remind you of the number of curries on this website. Like this dude used to post here:

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yea only a few here are really hated by girls and cant get them like me. most guys here look normie + autistic.
Are you white?

Btw you get a fair number of tinder matches, so you can't be hated by women.
 
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That's not you. Stop LARPing. You said you are white. That dude looks 100% arab. Like way more ethnic than me and I am a currycel.
that's definitely me
@/data/avatars/s/7/7098.jpg?1639414297 @MoeZart is just trying to seek attention. He is probably 5 PSL range too.
i legit never claimed to be especially good looking. I'm normie through and through
Cope. Most here are like 3/10. Might I remind you of the number of curries on this website. Like this dude used to post here:

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i'm still proud of that edit btw. shouldn't have been lazy and removed the black background but oh well
 
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waiting for surgery to fix everything
Is your jaw fucked up? Like very bad?

If not, I don't see why you won't get opportunities as a 6'3" white 4.25 PSL dude.
 
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Is your jaw fucked up? Like very bad?

If not, I don't see why you won't get opportunities as a 6'3" white 4.25 PSL dude.
im perma jutting so looks fine but surgery will make everything better hopefully. height is not relevant my short friends all slay, not white but not a bad pheno, 5.5psl is minimum these days. yea its over also small dick
 
@wristcel larpcels, only Larpers here.

no way u get so many girl if u r 3psl. even chars get rejected alot from cold approach so thats not your real facial rating. pm me your pic nigga.

@MoeZart u r 4.5psl someone said stop larping. everyone can slay here only truecels like me or @FastBananaCEO can't

Nigga. Send me pics of your face. Willing to bet 500 quid you are not ugly.
above
 
MTN tier slays
nice
 

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