What really makes an "attractive face"?

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1. Bones - not really, I see a lot of guys with excellent bone structure, i.e., popping cheekbones, wide jaws and great mandibles, strong nasal bridge, great projected chin, great brow ridge with extremely good orbital rims producing actual hunter eyes

2. Harmony - again, not so much, I have seen quite a few people that tick most boxes when it comes to ratios and measurements, yet they look bland or sometimes even below bland.

3. Phenotype and Colouring - could be, but we all know that colouring varies from race to race, ethnicity to ethnicity and area to area. Being dark skinned alone doesn't make you unattractive or being extremely light skinned alone doesn't make you extremely attractive. And if we speak about phenotype, it negates the fact that attractive people are/should be in all races, like just discriminating some Indian with dark skin and mixed features despite him having almost no failos and a great bone structure would make us extremely limited in how we see beauty.

4. Good soft features - I'd say to some extent true, but again I have seen people with good soft features, i.e., straight nose, lively eyes, clear and vibrant skin, lips with good definition (cupid's bow and proportional ratios), yet they somehow don't look all that great.


You could argue that it is a combination of all of the above, but I still have my doubts. Could anyone clear my confusion?
 
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all of this
 
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what else would it be? if you see someone excel in one of these but lack the others then it proves that they matter
also if one of these is a higher percentile for someone, the other ones are more likely to be lower percentile
 
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It's being at least average in most of those but above average in one.
 
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what else would it be? if you see someone excel in one of these but lack the others then it proves that they matter
also if one of these is a higher percentile for someone, the other ones are more likely to be lower percentile
Okay let me paint you a picture. I live in India, I usually come across a lot of men with excellent bone structures, decent facial features. Like the only thing stopping them is their colouring, which in most cases is extremely dark, they wouldn't be seen as attractive by any one on this forum, the forum which actually preaches and swears by bone structure being number 1 in producing good looking faces
 
It's being at least average in most of those but above average in one.
Sure, but let's see this. I have come across lots and lots of guys ticking all the above boxes but are seriously held back by their colouring and maybe collagen in some cases, but these are minor issues when you actually have every major thing in your face, i.e., bone structure, harmony, decent soft features.
 
Sure, but let's see this. I have come across lots and lots of guys ticking all the above boxes but are seriously held back by their colouring and maybe collagen in some cases, but these are minor issues when you actually have every major thing in your face, i.e., bone structure, harmony, decent soft features.
Having shit features is more impactful than having good features. It takes multiple good traits to make up for one bad one.
 
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Okay let me paint you a picture. I live in India, I usually come across a lot of men with excellent bone structures, decent facial features. Like the only thing stopping them is their colouring, which in most cases is extremely dark, they wouldn't be seen as attractive by any one on this forum, the forum which actually preaches and swears by bone structure being number 1 in producing good looking faces
i guess it also depends on other factors
i mean, bone structure is tied to "harmony" or ratios, a tall chin is good bone structure, and good for your ratios aswell
also i'd say eye area is more important, perhaps these guys have bad eye areas, noses and things of that nature
or maybe youre not judging their bone structure correctly
 
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without bones its over but u dont need psl tier bones either. Harmony is the most important factor once u have bones just like face is most important after reaching the height cutoff ( 6 foot) . Pheno is important(especially undertones) but not as much as stated here, however if youre dravidian or jungle gook its basically over. Soft features are extremely important as youthfulness is a highly prized commodity by young women. Skin and hair if theyre above average and trendy can offset lack of bones harmony(to some extent) and even pheno ( just look at dravid prettyboys on tiktok)
 
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i guess it also depends on other factors
i mean, bone structure is tied to "harmony" or ratios, a tall chin is good bone structure, and good for your ratios aswell
also i'd say eye area is more important, perhaps these guys have bad eye areas, noses and things of that nature
or maybe youre not judging their bone structure correctly
They legit had extremely good orbital rims and brow ridges, the eyes were mostly dark brown-black. It could be that one of them had some downward growth, but I try to squeeze out everything that makes them "unattractive" in the objective sense, but am unable to, so I then conclude with dark colouring and collagen.
 
Having shit features is more impactful than having good features. It takes multiple good traits to make up for one bad one.
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Combination of all above
 
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AVI Halo making you look smart. Hard to mock you when you have the Legend Tesla. :ogre:
foid mind. Letting looks effect your judgement
 
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foid mind. Letting looks effect your judgement
AVI Halo making you look smart. Hard to mock you when you have the Legend Tesla. :ogre:
Is it just me or do you guys also think that Tesla actually looked really good?
One of the few guys who prove that "attractive people are actually smart too"
 
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Is it just me or do you guys also think that Tesla actually looked really good?
One of the few guys who prove that "attractive people are actually smart too"
he is really good looking
 
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foid mind. Letting looks effect your judgement
Nigga, it's not just looks. Tesla IQ-mogged the world. Maybe Newton came close, but that Jew Einstein got nothing on the Teslanator. :lul:
 
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Nigga, it's not just looks. Tesla IQ-mogged the world. Maybe Newton came close, but that Jew Einstein got nothing on the Teslanator. :lul:
Was Einstein not all that smart?
 
Nigga, it's not just looks. Tesla IQ-mogged the world. Maybe Newton came close, but that Jew Einstein got nothing on the Teslanator. :lul:
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Is it just me or do you guys also think that Tesla actually looked really good?
One of the few guys who prove that "attractive people are actually smart too"
Dude was the only legit volcel genius. He had women throwing themselves at him cause of his looks and his wealthy background, but rejected them cause he didn't like jewelry. He preferred a bird over the average foid and this was back then when women were actually more feminine than today. He even warned us about females entering the workforce and didn't like women who liked fighting cause he considered them to be too masculine to be attractive. Dude was a legend, but Edison and the gov't Jewed him out of his inventions.
 
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Basically indicators of:

1) good health (immune system, hormonal profile)
2) dimorphism (but being fertile/youthful indicators at the same time)
3) good status (phenotype etc)
4) lastly, conditioning. Some people are conditioned to find some traits attractive due to past experiences
 
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Was Einstein not all that smart?
He had a claimed IQ of 160 and Tesla had an IQ of at least 200+. Big difference. Some claim Einstein plagiarized his ideas, but I haven't verified that.
 
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Basically :

1) good health (immune system, hormonal profile)
2) dimorphism (but being fertile/youthful indicators at the same time)
3) good status (phenotype etc)
4) lastly, conditioning. Some people are conditioned to find some traits are attractive due to past experiences
Quite accurate representation I'd say. I think I got a clearer picture now👍🏻
 
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He had a claimed IQ of 160 and Tesla had an IQ of at least 200+. Big difference. Some claim Einstein plagiarized his ideas, but I haven't verified that.
Edison sure plagiarised his ideas.
 
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Edison sure plagiarised his ideas.
Yeah, Edison was the social normie that stole his ideas from others while Tesla was the silent autist who believed in bringing free electricity to the world. Reminds me of the Jew Steve Jobs taking credit from the autist Wozniak who did all the work, but was unable to socialize properly to appeal to the normie masses.
 
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He had a claimed IQ of 160 and Tesla had an IQ of at least 200+. Big difference. Some claim Einstein plagiarized his ideas, but I haven't verified that.
Einstein never took an IQ test and 200+ is impossible
 
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Einstein never took an IQ test and 200+ is impossible
Quite a few Japanese professors have IQ's ranging from 210-230 today.
 
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Quite a few Japanese professors have IQ's ranging from 210-230 today.
Nah, Chris Langan has 190 and this gook has 210 allegedly.

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210 is in the hundreds of billions or something crazy. It's not possible to measure that high. IQ tests have a max score of 160.
 
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210 is in the hundreds of billions or something crazy. It's not possible to measure that high. IQ tests have a max score of 160.
No cap, I looked it up and it seems IQ's above 160 are inconsistent or difficult to measure, but there are some tests that claim to measure higher than that. There's also a Giga Society that accepts members with IQs over 190 so there might be some merit to it. Either way, Tesla was one of a kind and we probably won't have another one for a long time until highly advanced AI it seems.
 
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No cap, I looked it up and it seems IQ's above 160 are inconsistent or difficult to measure, but there are some tests that claim to measure higher than that. There's also a Giga Society that accepts members with IQs over 190 so there might be some merit to it. Either way, Tesla was one of a kind and we probably won't have another one for a long time until highly advanced AI it seems.
Giga soyciety. It's all bullshit.

Yeah, Tesla was a once in a few hundred years genius.
 
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Giga soyciety. It's all bullshit.

Yeah, Tesla was a once in a few hundred years genius.
Have you ever taken a legit IQ test in person and what was your score?
 
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This Indian girl has a measured IQ of 225 -
Hmm. I just did a quick Google search and they reckon that Newton had an IQ of 190. I can't imagine anyone having an IQ 35 points higher than the man who partly perfected calculus and pretty much came up with the fundamental laws of physics on his own.

If there are people that smart out there then surely we'd have hovercars and less barbaric methods of increasing height than leg lengthening by now.
 
1. Bones - not really, I see a lot of guys with excellent bone structure, i.e., popping cheekbones, wide jaws and great mandibles, strong nasal bridge, great projected chin, great brow ridge with extremely good orbital rims producing actual hunter eyes

2. Harmony - again, not so much, I have seen quite a few people that tick most boxes when it comes to ratios and measurements, yet they look bland or sometimes even below bland.

3. Phenotype and Colouring - could be, but we all know that colouring varies from race to race, ethnicity to ethnicity and area to area. Being dark skinned alone doesn't make you unattractive or being extremely light skinned alone doesn't make you extremely attractive. And if we speak about phenotype, it negates the fact that attractive people are/should be in all races, like just discriminating some Indian with dark skin and mixed features despite him having almost no failos and a great bone structure would make us extremely limited in how we see beauty.

4. Good soft features - I'd say to some extent true, but again I have seen people with good soft features, i.e., straight nose, lively eyes, clear and vibrant skin, lips with good definition (cupid's bow and proportional ratios), yet they somehow don't look all that great.


You could argue that it is a combination of all of the above, but I still have my doubts. Could anyone clear my confusion?
harmony, phenotype, soft features.
bones are bullshit cope beside maxilla
 
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harmony, phenotype, soft features.
bones are bullshit cope beside maxilla
Well a good jaw is a must. And maxilla makes most of what is a good bone structure.
 
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