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[MakinItHappenReturn]

Biggest take-away was race didn't play as much of an influence AS everyone is led to believe in the PSL community. Have a watch.

The biggest influencers were weight and your body type.

 

[thecel]

I wanna be a famous redpill YouTuber to get accepted to Wheat Waffles debates to shout insults at him

 

[cmfanel]

over for non gymcelers, being jacked gives a FULL +1. if ur not roiding what are u doing?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

 

[gamma]

over for non gymcelers, being jacked gives a FULL +1. if ur not roiding what are u doing?

Hairloss and bloat are a full -4

 

[cmfanel]

Hairloss and bloat is a full -4

its much easier to lose than to gain, such is life

 

[thecel]

over for non gymcelers, being jacked gives a FULL +1. if ur not roiding what are u doing?

The fact that being jacked adds a full 1 point of attractiveness doesn’t refute the blackpill beliefs of “it’s over” and “it never began.” Look:

1 PSL + 1 = 2 PSL

The classic blackpill stance on gymcelling holds true. Gym doesn’t work for subhumans. Gymcelling is worth it for guys who’re 4/10 or higher.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Look at little tails over here getting jealous

 

[cmfanel]

The fact that being jacked gives you +1 point of attractiveness doesn’t refute the blackpill belief of “it’s over” or “it never began.” Look:

1 PSL + 1 = 2 PSL

The classic blackpill stance on gymcelling holds true. Gym doesn’t work for subhumans. Gymcelling is worth it for guys who’re 4/10 or higher.

if youre a trucel then nothing will help. with the help of literally elemntary statistics we can determine that 80% of guys are not trucels and gymcelling will help.

regardless, even if ur ugly as shit, its better to be jacked than skinny if only out of respect from other males

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

The fact that being jacked gives you +1 point of attractiveness doesn’t refute the blackpill belief of “it’s over” or “it never began.” Look:

1 PSL + 1 = 2 PSL

The classic blackpill stance on gymcelling holds true. Gym doesn’t work for subhumans. Gymcelling is worth it for guys who’re 4/10 or higher.

Are you sub 4 then? Height?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

if youre a trucel then nothing will help. with the help of literally elemntary statistics we can determine that 80% of guys are not trucels and gymcelling will help.

regardless, even if ur ugly as shit, its better to be jacked than skinny if only out of respect from other males

This doesn't register with nihilistic Zoomers lol which is ironic since their website is nammed LooksMax

 

[thecel]

Look at little tails over here getting jealous


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Tails’s comment is low-IQ. It’s more difficult to accurately rate face combined with height than to only rate face. When rating face with height, you have 2 variables to deal with, and they don’t simply combine linearly or multiplicatively. Most raters just pull numbers out their asses when it comes to height-adjusted ratings; they rate off of non-statistically-based rules such as “subtract 0.5 points for every 2 inches under 6 feet.”

How Attractiveness Ratings’ Height Deductions and Boosts Work

One does not simply “add 0.5 PSL for 6-feet height” and “subtract 0.5 PSL for 5'6" height.” Here’s how height-based boosts/reductions work: desirability of (person who has X face rating and Y height) = desirability of (person who has Z face rating and average height) Plug in X and Y. Solve for...

looksmax.org

 

[cmfanel]

This doesn't register with nihilistic Zoomers lol which is ironic since their website is nammed LooksMax

jfl, i learned more on lookism in 2 months than anyone here could learn. if youre serious about looksmaxing you would roid gymcel. anything less than that is a half measure

 

[volcelfatcel]

if youre a trucel then nothing will help. with the help of literally elemntary statistics we can determine that 80% of guys are not trucels and gymcelling will help.

regardless, even if ur ugly as shit, its better to be jacked than skinny if only out of respect from other males

This doesn't register with nihilistic Zoomers lol which is ironic since their website is nammed LooksMax

yea but you can also be seen as an overcompensating insecure if ur ugly, or short. imo better if ur average
not really much to gain for the effort of a natural gym body if ur either of those, even a roided body would look like shit

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

jfl, i learned more on lookism in 2 months than anyone here could learn. if youre serious about looksmaxing you would roid gymcel. anything less than that is a half measure

If you are a tall normie and not body maxed and complaining about not getting chicks, you're an i,diot.

Tall and good body should come hand in hand. You have normie facial genetics so you should have normie muscle building genetics. Nothing stands in your way of becoming sexy to women if your face is normie and you are tall.

Gym is your guaranteed 'successful' looksmax

Point, blank PERIOD

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

yea but you can also be seen as an overcompensating insecure if ur ugly, or short. imo better if ur average
not really much to gain for the effort of a natural gym body if ur either of those, even a roided body would look like shit

Dude, you care too much about what people think

You think you got more chance of getting pussy as a poser try-hard that's got muscle and a lean face, or a LADR looking incel that's average looking but doesn't seem active at all. You will look like your stereotypical NPC Zoomer who binges on porn, youtube and netflix?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Fuck caring what people think and how they perceive you

Your thinking is retarded

'If I can't look like David Laid from gymming then I am not going to look like anything at all'

'I'd rather be invisible completely to everybody, than attractive to some girls and a poser to others'

THIS IS THE CRUX OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND IT IS LOGICALLY STUPID

 

[volcelfatcel]

Dude, you care too much about what people think

You think you got more chance of getting pussy as a poser try-hard that's got muscle and a lean face, or a LADR looking incel that's average looking but doesn't seem active at all, seeming your stereotypical NPC Zoomer who binges on porn, youtube and netflix?

I mean, what people think of you will reflect of you socially so it does matter
if ur ugly or manlet you will be as compensating but thankfully most ppl are average therefore a good body still can do something

also being lean =/= muscle roided, if ur bones aren't good at 15% BF, they wont look much better at 12% either

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Why do Zoomers care SO MUCH and estimate how perceptions go? I truly don't get it at all. Why are and were Millennials so much more willing to gym? What is it? Is it something that you guys have gotten used to to be idle and inactive? Has your body adapted to this as well as your mind, so you conjure ridiculous excuses trying to measure how people will perceive you for having a good body without a Chad fac?

 

[volcelfatcel]

'If I can't look like David Laid from gymming then I am not going to look like anything at all'

'I'd rather be invisible completely to everybody, than attractive to some girls and a poser to others'

THIS IS THE CRUX OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND IT IS LOGICALLY STUPID

Well you will never understand what its like being ugly, you're literally average if not slightly above average for an indian
people who have huge ass phyisiques at a short height end up looking like jokers IRL, even in the gym the wide as fuck midgets get zero respect lmao

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I mean, what people think of you will reflect of you socially so it does matter
if ur ugly or manlet you will be as compensating but thankfully most ppl are average therefore a good body still can do something

also being lean =/= muscle roided, if ur bones aren't good at 15% BF, they wont look much better at 12% either

Bro you DO NOT adapt to society

Society adapts to you

Do you and then you'll NATURALLY find your niche

Stop trying to adapt to a niche that will let you in

If you aren't ruggedly handsome I recommend never going below 12%. It's a stupid retarded meme created by black pill autists who are too used to watching run-way models like Chico and Sean O'Pry. Literally stupid.

 

[Primordial]

I got this retard to rate me and he rated me quick without even looking at my pics properly. He said I have negative canthal tilt and then I replied to him saying I don't, then he checked my pics again and was like oh yh you dont. jfl if you take this retard seriously

 

[volcelfatcel]

If you aren't ruggedly handsome I recommend never going below 12%. It's a stupid retarded meme created by black pill autists who are too used to watching run-way models like Chico and Sean O'Pry. Literally stupid.

100% agreed
all the models you mentioned aren't 10 or 12% they're like 14-15%

Bro you DO NOT adapt to society

Society adapts to you

Do you and then you'll NATURALLY find your niche

Stop trying to adapt to a niche that will let you in

I believe this for an average guy but not an ugly short guy who compensates with gymcelling, anything you do is considered bad or overcompensating. But i guess you're healthy, most people should at least try to get to sub 15% def

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

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Well you will never understand what its like being ugly, you're literally average if not slightly above average for an indian
people who have huge ass phyisiques at a short height end up looking like jokers IRL, even in the gym the wide as fuck midgets get zero respect lmao

I am 5'8 and Indian do I look like a joker? I was the one everyone was looking to for advice and girls couldn't keep their eyes off. I've had lays from Bars/Clubs but also Gyms.

It's easy af as they encourage you to talk to them and submit straight away because you're wearing a cut sleeve shirt with biceps and triceps carving out to their view

Whether it was lean or bulk it halo'ed

Why what's your looks-level? You trust me in pm?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I got this retard to rate me and he rated me quick without even looking at my pics properly. He said I have negative canthal tilt and then I replied to him saying I don't, then he checked my pics again and was like oh yh you dont. jfl if you take this retard seriously

Post the entire analysis and rating texted out if that's true

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

100% agreed
all the models you mentioned aren't 10 or 12% they're like 14-15%

I believe this for an average guy but not an ugly short guy who compensates with gymcelling, anything you do is considered bad or overcompensating. But i guess you're healthy, most people should at least try to get to sub 15% def

What's your height and looks-level?

 

[volcelfatcel]

I am 5'8 and Indian do I look like a joker? I was the one everyone was looking to for advice and girls couldn't keep their eyes off. I've had lays from Bars/Clubs but also Gyms.

5'8 and indian isn't death tier considering you were above average in your prime, you are not jacked you are very lean.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

5'8 and indian isn't death tier considering you were above average in your prime, you are not jacked you are very lean.

Nvm me. Let's focus on you. What's your stats? I don't get the defeatism bhai

 

[Deleted member 14160]

Brutal, so half those 7’s and 8’s on average are less than 5’9- aka badly hurting their inherent smv.

 

[Primordial]

Post the entire analysis and rating texted out if that's true

I'm not showing my rating or analysis, don't believe me idc

 

[thecel]

most people should at least try to get to sub 15% def

It depends on looks.

Refer to this handy-dandy chart:

Physical Circumstances	Recommended Course of Action
Sub-2, or, [ Sub-4 and shorter than 5'8" ]	Doesn’t matter what you do. Won’t make any difference.
Sub-4 and at least 5'8"	Bloatmax for sheer size. Women won’t find you attractive (no matter how ripped you get). Bloatmax, and at least you’ll be able to dominate and get respect from men.
Sub-5	Maintain a healthy body. Get ripped if you like.
Other	Gymmax. Get ripped.

Start at the 1st row, go down the left column until you match a description, go right, and take the action.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I'm not showing my rating or analysis, don't believe me idc

Why not? Makes no sense

You can just leave out the rating if it was sub 5

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Brutal, so half those 7’s and 8’s on average are less than 5’9- aka badly hurting their inherent smv.

I am assuming a lot of Chads caught wind of his Channel through whatever means, whether it be Coach Red Pill or someone else and then thought they'd put PSL science to the test. They got their answer(s)

I agree with WW in that once you are 8 it is irrelevant if you are that, 9 or 10

 

[volcelfatcel]

Nvm me. Let's focus on you. What's your stats? I don't get the defeatism bhai

Don't worry about me, this doesnt apply to me at all
i'm 5'10 and have bones popping at high BF

This is just a discussion, because the reality is average and above i 100% agree gymmax asap but being ugly it's over, go get a surgery instead that will increase smv more

 

[thecel]

Society adapts to you

GALACTIC–HYPERCOPE

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Don't worry about me, this doesnt apply to me at all
i'm 5'10 and have bones popping at high BF

This is just a discussion, because the reality is average and above i 100% agree gymmax asap but being ugly it's over, go get a surgery instead that will increase smv more

Stop concerning yourself with the people who require invasive surgery. They are the bottom 20% guys and hey, some people get unlucky. They gotta deal with it. That's life. You can't save everyone. If they get money and are able to overturn their misfortune and completely fraud their genetic output, so be it.

Are you gyming? Why tf are you high bf?

 

[volcelfatcel]

Brutal, so half those 7’s and 8’s on average are less than 5’9- aka badly hurting their inherent smv.

@VicMackey knows a brett maverick lookalike at 5'5, even tho he doesn't "slay" he gets women absolutely obsessed with him when they like him

 

[volcelfatcel]

Are you gyming? Why tf are you high bf?

started gymming 3 months ago, learnt shit for the 1st month and was uneffective so probably 2 months and its going good

 

[volcelfatcel]

Stop concerning yourself with the people who require invasive surgery. They are the bottom 20% guys and hey, some people get unlucky. They gotta deal with it. That's life. You can't save everyone. If they get money and are able to overturn their misfortune and completely fraud their genetic output, so be it.

Indeed I agree but thats the point of discussion
I think slightly below average or avg guys benefit very much but gym is becoming more of a requirement than a halo, not sure how to explain it since everyone is gymmaxxing now it's becoming like a requirement to be a male

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Indeed I agree but thats the point of discussion
I think slightly below average or avg guys benefit very much but gym is becoming more of a requirement than a halo, not sure how to explain it since everyone is gymmaxxing now it's becoming like a requirement to be a male

I see your point but I do think you might think everyone is doing it because you are always on insta, tiktok and youtube

 

[volcelfatcel]

I see your point but I do think you might think everyone is doing it because you are always on insta, tiktok and youtube

That is exactly why because women and ppl in general base peoples physique off insta, tiktok and youtube. Therefore they think every guy has to look like a god bodywise (and all these faggots fraud, refer to the video) which creates unrealistic expectations @Amnesia has suffered from this.
They think you can make a good body from 3 months of pushups or following some magical workout diet plan from athlean x or sum shit

 

[fogdart]

Biggest take-away was race didn't play as much of an influence AS everyone is led to believe in the PSL community. Have a watch.

The biggest influencers were weight and your body type.

Lol I’m sure my pics were used in making these conclusions

 

[gamma]

Autism as always ITT
Being lean and muscular is always good

I just said that steroids can be more a looksmin than a looksmax especially if someone is prone to hairloss

What's this rethoric about looksmax users being "lazy zoomers"
Just random ramblings

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

That is exactly why because women and ppl in general base peoples physique off insta, tiktok and youtube. Therefore they think every guy has to look like a god bodywise (and all these faggots fraud, refer to the video) which creates unrealistic expectations @Amnesia has suffered from this.
They think you can make a good body from 3 months of pushups or following some magical workout diet plan from athlean x or sum shit
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Madness

And they are doing this DURING their videos too right?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Lol I’m sure my pics were used in making these conclusions

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Mind posting the entire analysis for us pls?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Autism as always ITT
Being lean and muscular is always good

I just said that steroids can be more a looksmin than a looksmax especially if someone is prone to hairloss

What's this rethoric about looksmax users being "lazy zoomers"
Just random ramblings

It's the truth

If it wasn't true you wouldn't feel the need to defend it

 

[volcelfatcel]

Madness

And they are doing this DURING their videos too right?

Yes
never trust any physiques you see on social media. They look like actual dogshit IRL

 

[Warlow]

Look at little tails over here getting jealous


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tails is such a bitch jfl