Which gender do you think cares about LTR more? (MoggerGaston VS Makeyousit)

[Xangsane]

Here's a thread, where @MoggerGaston and @Makeyousit talk about LTRs:

I am completely disgusted by single women in my age-range

Women my age (21-28yo) that are single disgust me. They choose to fuck around with some fwb/chad, and deliberately avoid committed relationships. It's disgusting. Only single women

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@MoggerGaston says that most men are not Chad and are looking for LTR. Women are incapable of pair-bonding because they are damaged goods.

@Makeyousit says that women are more desperate for romance and an LTR and most men, if given the choice, don't actually care about that. They want hookups only.

Who do you agree with more?

 

[Deleted member 17531]

JFL if you want a relationship in 2022

 

[Xangsane]

JFL if you want a relationship in 2022

@Makeyousit @Tropicallooksmaxxer @gymmaxedhorse

Used-up roastie on r/Hinge complains about "why don't men aged 26-32 want an LTR and marriage"

looksmax.org

 

[LowTrust]

depends on their bodycount and if they are JB or not

 

[Truecel14]

Men care about LTR's way more than woman, 85% of men cannot have casual sex when they want to and like half are essentially incels. Most men can only get sex through steady LTR's.

 

[Xangsane]

Most men can only get sex through steady LTR's.

That's an FwB.

 

[Deleted member 1140]

every single relationship i know of (friends, family etc) the girl either cheated or left the guy

its like 1 out of 10 relationships where the guy leaves

so yes guys are more ltr type than girls, they can have relationships but not for long

 

[Truecel14]

That's an FwB.

If I meant an FWB, I would have said that.

You think this guy is getting friends with benefits? The only way this guy gets sex is through a long term relatioship.

 

[Xangsane]

If I meant an FWB, I would have said that.
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You think this guy is getting friends with benefits? The only way this guy gets sex is through a long term relatioship.

A 1-2 year sexual arrangement still is an FwB for the purpose of the thread. An LTR leads to marriage.

 

[gymmaxedhorse]

Almost every girl I meet of OLD is looking for LTR they're all tired of getting pumped and dumped earlier now because they start hoeing earlier than before. Many girls are having hoe phases in HS and by the time they're mid 20s they're tired of getting pumped and dumped

 

[Xangsane]

Almost every girl I meet of OLD is looking for LTR they're all tired of getting pumped and dumped earlier now because they start hoeing earlier than before. Many girls are having hoe phases in HS and by the time they're mid 20s they're tired of getting pumped and dumped

Including the very young ones?
I personally assume if a girl says "no hookups" or "looking for an LTR" or "LTR only" it means she's damaged goods.

 

[Deleted member 14693]

@MoggerGaston destroying bluepillers as usual

 

[MoggerGaston]

Almost every girl I meet of OLD is looking for LTR they're all tired of getting pumped and dumped earlier now because they start hoeing earlier than before. Many girls are having hoe phases in HS and by the time they're mid 20s they're tired of getting pumped and dumped

Those mid20s girls are damaged goods.

Most never get pump n dumped btw. They were mostly in fwbs and 'abusive' relationships with guys out of their league.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Including the very young ones?
I personally assume if a girl says "no hookups" or "looking for an LTR" or "LTR only" it means she's damaged goods.

Yeah its a huge red flag

 

[MoggerGaston]

every single relationship i know of (friends, family etc) the girl either cheated or left the guy

its like 1 out of 10 relationships where the guy leaves

so yes guys are more ltr type than girls, they can have relationships but not for long

Same here.

I know so many guys that got ditched by their gf because the girl wanted to hoe around instead.

 

[Xangsane]

Those mid20s girls are damaged goods.

Most never get pump n dumped btw. They were mostly in fwbs and 'abusive' relationships with guys out of their league.

That's a pump and dump.

 

[Xangsane]

Yeah its a huge red flag

The best girls are the ones who act like LTR material but don't demand it unlike the muh "LTR only" foids off the apps.

 

[gymmaxedhorse]

Those mid20s girls are damaged goods.

Most never get pump n dumped btw. They were mostly in fwbs and 'abusive' relationships with guys out of their league.

hmm that could be true actually. Makes more sense. JFL at these hoes all alpha widowed

 

[khvirgin]

Men care more.
How is that a question?

Most men can't "slay"
Every single woman can do that

Thus a relationship is seen as something that should come after "having fun"

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Here's a thread, where @MoggerGaston and @Makeyousit talk about LTRs:

I am completely disgusted by single women in my age-range

Women my age (21-28yo) that are single disgust me. They choose to fuck around with some fwb/chad, and deliberately avoid committed relationships. It's disgusting. Only single women

looksmax.org

@MoggerGaston says that most men are not Chad and are looking for LTR. Women are incapable of pair-bonding because they are damaged goods.

@Makeyousit says that women are more desperate for romance and an LTR and most men, if given the choice, don't actually care about that. They want hookups only.

Who do you agree with more?

Women are fucking desperate as fuck for relationships, so much so that they'll brainwash themselves to LTR a LTN cuck.
Of course, they want someone they're attracted to but women would rather be with a guy they don't really like than be in the pain of being single.

 

[Xangsane]

Women are fucking desperate as fuck for relationships, so much so that they'll brainwash themselves to LTR a LTN cuck.
Of course, they want someone they're attracted to but women would rather be with a guy they don't really like than be in the pain of being single.

See here:

What goes through your mind when you see a foid on OLD who says "no hookups" or "LTR only"?

Great pointade by @gymmaxedhorse and @MoggerGaston on this thread: Almost every girl I meet of OLD is looking for LTR they're all tired of getting pumped and dumped earlier now because they start hoeing earlier than before. Many girls are having hoe phases in HS and by the time they're mid 20s...

looksmax.org

 

[Deleted member 23218]

Women are fucking desperate as fuck for relationships, so much so that they'll brainwash themselves to LTR a LTN cuck.
Of course, they want someone they're attracted to but women would rather be with a guy they don't really like than be in the pain of being single.

They only want chad stop capping (please agree with me I need to cope with my virginity)

 

[enchanted_elixir]

They only want chad stop capping (please agree with me I need to cope with my virginity)

 

[bloomercel]

My experience confirms MoggerGaston. Mid 20s girls are waiting for gigachad while having fwbs on the side they tend to hide.

 

[Xangsane]

@Corleone

 

[Xangsane]

@JawMogger

 

[Corleone]

I always thought @MoggerGaston was based.

Both a right to a certain extent though. Most women engaged in OLD nowadays are damaged goods, but they still crave commitment, as it is their biological instinct to look for protection from the guy that‘s sleeping with them.

On the other hand, the only men willing to enter a LTR are the ones that can‘t participate in hook-up culture anymore due to low SMV and thus see a LTR as a way to get semi-constant sex.

 

[MoggerGaston]

On the other hand, the only men willing to enter a LTR are the ones that can‘t participate in hook-up culture anymore due to low SMV and thus see a LTR as a way to get semi-constant sex.

80% of men can't get a satisfying sex/dating life outside of LTRs, so it applies to most men by far. And even in the 20% that can get consistent hookups/fwbs/etc, a lot of those men also want LTRs.

Women simply don't give a fuck about LTRs unless they are looking for marriage or having kids, which most women don't care about until their late twenties.
Before that they might say they want a relationship, but only if that means the chad they are fucking commits to them. They don't talk about LTRing their looksmatch.

 

[Xangsane]

I always thought @MoggerGaston was based.

Both a right to a certain extent though. Most women engaged in OLD nowadays are damaged goods, but they still crave commitment, as it is their biological instinct to look for protection from the guy that‘s sleeping with them.

On the other hand, the only men willing to enter a LTR are the ones that can‘t participate in hook-up culture anymore due to low SMV and thus see a LTR as a way to get semi-constant sex.

Do you think I'm weird that I actually prefer LTR over hook up culture?

 

[Corleone]

Do you think I'm weird that I actually prefer LTR over hook up culture?

Of course not, I‘m with you, a LTR with a good woman is something beautiful and completes you in more ways than you‘d think.

but I also think you‘re a bit low-T if you don‘t also have the urge to go ooga-booga on low-value sex bimbos

 

[Xangsane]

Na, I‘m with you, a LTR with a good woman is something beautiful, but I also think you‘re a bit low-T if you don‘t also have the urge to go ooga-booga on low-value sex bimbos

Do you think I seem soft?

 

[Corleone]

Do you think I seem soft?

Yes, but the nice innocent cuddly kind.

 

[Xangsane]

Yes, but the nice innocent cuddly kind.

why?

 

[Corleone]

why?

Because you always seem very composed and I‘ve never heard you express the very natural primal urge to go ooga-booga on sexy hoes.

Pretty sure you left an „ugh“ react or „not my type“ comment under every @forevergymcelling british slags of the month threads, while the rest of us have all of them book-marked as coom-fuel

The entire „squishy squishy“ phase for flat asians doesn‘t help either

 

[Xangsane]

Because you always seem very composed and I‘ve never heard you express the very natural primal urge to go ooga-booga on sexy hoes.

Pretty sure you left an „ugh“ react or „not my type“ comment under every @forevergymcelling british slags of the month threads, while the rest of us have all of them book-marked as coom-fuel

The entire „squishy squishy“ phase for flat asians doesn‘t help either

I like HQNP voluptuous women.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Most people here over-estimate the appeal of slaying. You don't have to be good-looking to slay, the whole problem with slaying is that you only get women that you mog hard. So unless you are 5+ PSL, your slays are gonna look subpar.

I think most men prefer a LTR with a looksmatch over slaying girls they mog.
Meanwhile most women prefer getting slain by guys that mog them, over a LTR with their looksmatch.

The problem of modern dating

 

[wollet2]

Those mid20s girls are damaged goods.

Most never get pump n dumped btw. They were mostly in fwbs and 'abusive' relationships with guys out of their league.

true

younger girls are even 'worse' btw, older girls have damaged pair bonding but younger girls literally love being hoes like how incels love being patrick bateman. they also get fucked by new guys at a faster rate than mid-late 20s girls

 

[wollet2]

My experience confirms MoggerGaston.

 

[wollet2]

Almost every girl I meet of OLD is looking for LTR they're all tired of getting pumped and dumped earlier now because they start hoeing earlier than before. Many girls are having hoe phases in HS and by the time they're mid 20s they're tired of getting pumped and dumped

cope they stop expecting more than a good fucking why would they get tired of it they enjoy it