Who is less European, Greeks & Italians or Bulgarians?

[ectomorpher]

And are you sure it’s not the Greek influence?

Both

 

[silently_said]

why are ppl still arguing over this shit jfl

 

[Olivecel]

why are ppl still arguing over this shit jfl

Ppl need to wake up and realize that Greeks are NOT Western Europeans.

 

[Olivecel]

why are ppl still arguing over this shit jfl

if Balkans are Asian then Greeks are Arab Semites.

 

[Olivecel]

Do me a favor somebody. Dm @chiantozzoh on instagram and show him this:

That pussy blocked me

 

[SadLivwr]

stop this infighting man, its how the jews managed to gain control even after the Holocaust, they are all European and we must beat back the shitskin horde like we did with the Mongols before

 

[Olivecel]

stop this infighting man, its how the jews managed to gain control even after the Holocaust, they are all European and we must beat back the shitskin horde like we did with the Mongols before

Enough said.

 

[Olivecel]

stop this infighting man, its how the jews managed to gain control even after the Holocaust, they are all European and we must beat back the shitskin horde like we did with the Mongols before

I don’t need a Jew to tell me anything. These show exactly who is white and who is not in Europe, which the true whites are northern/western Europeans:

 

[SadLivwr]

I don’t need a Jew to tell me anything. These show exactly who is white and who is not in Europe, which the true whites are Western Europeans:
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I am slav retard, and your the jew for trying to seperate European brothers from each other and making sure our borders stay open, well fuck you

 

[Olivecel]

I am slav retard, and your the jew for trying to seperate European brothers from each other and making sure our borders stay open, well fuck you

I don’t want borders open.
I never said that.
I’m just saying the Balkaniggas and southern Italians are not fucking white as shown on almost every pca diagram on every genetic study.

 

[Olivecel]

I am slav retard, and your the jew for trying to seperate European brothers from each other and making sure our borders stay open, well fuck you

I’m not saying you’re Jew. I’m saying that Jews do not inference my opinion. They didn’t influence the painters opinion either. Even the painter did not consider all Europeans to be white.

 

[SadLivwr]

I don’t want borders open.
I never said that.
I’m just saying the Balkaniggas and southern Italians are not fucking white as shown on almost every pca diagram on every genetic study.

I consider everyone whos in Europe white, and that includes Balkans and Italians

 

[SadLivwr]

I’m not saying you’re Jew. I’m saying that Jews do not inference my opinion. They didn’t influence the painters opinion either. Even the painter did not consider all Europeans to be white.

this is as retarded as saying not all asians who live in asia are asians or not all blacks in africa are africans, tf

 

[Olivecel]

this is as retarded as saying not all asians who live in asia are asians or not all blacks in africa are africans, tf

How is that retarded? That’s scientifically correct. Not all groups in Asia are the same race as people from China. Arabs and Chinese are two separate races even though they are technically both in Asia..

 

[SadLivwr]

How is that retarded? That’s scientifically correct. Not all groups in Asia are the same race as people from China. Arabs and Chinese are two separate races even though they are technically both in Asia..

Arabs are in the middle east, and Asia is massive and thus theres more genetic diversity compared to Europe which has actually les genetic diversity meaning everyone is pretty much the same

 

[Olivecel]

Arabs are in the middle east, and Asia is massive and thus theres more genetic diversity compared to Europe which has actually les genetic diversity meaning everyone is pretty much the same

I disagree. Based on genetic studies, Greeks and southern Italians plot even closer to Jews than they do with most other Europeans.
So if Greeks and southern Italians are white tjen so are Jews. Obviously neither of us would agree with that. Here is genetic proof by a Greek geneticist,

 

[Olivecel]

Arabs are in the middle east, and Asia is massive and thus theres more genetic diversity compared to Europe which has actually les genetic diversity meaning everyone is pretty much the same

And here is another one,

Clear-cut difference between Greeks/Italians and the rest of Europe.
If you do the measurements, Greeks are actually closer to West Asian groups like Lebanese than they are to Germans for example!

 

[grungymallard97]

than* tiktokcel cringe emoji

Who ru

 

[grungymallard97]

ur not blonde and blue eyed though

yeah true

 

[mog_or_be_mogged]

this nigga started a race war

 

[MediterraneanApollo]

@Olivecel you are that half Coptic schizo posting with the Canadian flag on apricity or not? I doubt you have Greek ancestry anyway let alone speak, read the language
While there is overlap with West Asians and especially South-Eastern Europeans there is no doubt that you exoticize Greeks in high degree
the average mainland Greek does not even plot close to West Asians, they are closer to Central Italians than even Southern ones (look up any Thessalonian gedmatch result being closer to Marche or Umbria than Calabria)
You have an East Med shift towards the South in both countries, Calabrians are close to Cretans or other Aegean Islanders but still in the European sphere
even the most East Med shifted Greek or South Italian can be modeled as half West Asian/West European, they are not closer to the Levant with exception of Cypriots of course
as for Bulgarians they are not exotic by any means they plot Eastern to Friulians with high Central-Eastern European shift

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I don’t mean culturally, I mean genetically and phenotypically.

Greeks are most European because Kryikos grizzly is a white chad

 

[Kiril Velev]

Bulgarians have turkic dna

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[Kiril Velev]

As a bulgarian (not biased at all) we are much whiter than greeks and much whiter and taller than shitskin italians.

ok bro as a Bulgarian - razpoznavash li mi profilnata ot kude e

 

[Shade91]

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stfu you raging mongol mutt

 

[YungAscender]

ok bro as a Bulgarian - razpoznavash li mi profilnata ot kude e

Mnogo qsno bratceto

 

[Olivecel]

@Olivecel you are that half Coptic schizo posting with the Canadian flag on apricity or not? I doubt you have Greek ancestry anyway let alone speak, read the language
While there is overlap with West Asians and especially South-Eastern Europeans there is no doubt that you exoticize Greeks in high degree
the average mainland Greek does not even plot close to West Asians, they are closer to Central Italians than even Southern ones (look up any Thessalonian gedmatch result being closer to Marche or Umbria than Calabria)
You have an East Med shift towards the South in both countries, Calabrians are close to Cretans or other Aegean Islanders but still in the European sphere
even the most East Med shifted Greek or South Italian can be modeled as half West Asian/West European, they are not closer to the Levant with exception of Cypriots of course
as for Bulgarians they are not exotic by any means they plot Eastern to Friulians with high Central-Eastern European shift

Not all mainland Greeks are closer to central Italians, only the northern mainland. Central Greece and the Peloponnese are closer to Albanians and southern Italians.
And no I’m not Coptic or Canadian.

 

[DepigmentedBrownoid]

Greeks on average

 

[Olivecel]

Greeks on average

I need to hear this from a Westerner who thinks Greeks are Western

 

[ddbstp]

im half bulgarian, half swedish but thank god my dad is slavic bulgarian and not mixed with turkish pigs

 

[DepigmentedBrownoid]

I need to hear this from a Westerner who thinks Greeks are Western

I view Greeks similar to Turkroaches (In terms of physical appearance and genetics)

 

[Olivecel]

I view Greeks similar to Turkroaches (In terms of physical appearance and genetics)

But you’re not of Western European heritage so this doesn’t matter you could just be jealous of Greeks for all I know because all westerners love them (but they shouldn’t).

 

[DepigmentedBrownoid]

this is as retarded as saying not all asians who live in asia are asians or not all blacks in africa are africans, tf

There is a difference between European and white Meds and Balkans are not white because they have a significant amount of non white DNA

 

[Olivecel]

There is a difference between European and white Meds and Balkans are not white because they have a significant amount of non white DNA

Southern Italians have more non-white dna than Balkans tho. Some Balkans are genetically almost fully white like Croatians, Romanians (the non-Gypsy ones) and Serbians.
But Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians and N.Macedonians are less white.

 

[DepigmentedBrownoid]

But you’re not of Western European heritage so this doesn’t matter you could just be jealous of Greeks for all I know because all westerners love them (but they shouldn’t).

I am half Western European and Greeks are genetically and physically closer to the other half of my lineage then they are to Western Europeans but I get what you mean about Westerners worshipping them.

 

[Olivecel]

I am half Western European and Greeks are genetically and physically closer to the other half of my lineage then they are to Western Europeans but I get what you mean about Westerners worshipping them.

Then tell me why westerners fucking love Greeks and consider them white but not their Balkan neighbors ? Makes no fuckinh sense and it pisses me off.

 

[DepigmentedBrownoid]

Then tell me why westerners fucking love Greeks and consider them white but not their Balkan neighbors ? Makes no fuckinh sense and it pisses me off.

I think it’s because foids worship them or some shit but I don’t live in Europe so I don’t fully know

 

[Olivecel]

I think it’s because foids worship them or some shit but I don’t live in Europe so I don’t fully know

I know they worship Italian men I never knew they worship Greek men tho

 

[TUSSELEIF]

Many south Italians have mixed north African Berber DNA. Greeks are very white, Idk where this notion that they're not comes from. Greeks are arguably the most European since that's where the notion of Europe comes from

 

[boxface34]

 

[Olivecel]

Many south Italians have mixed north African Berber DNA. Greeks are very white, Idk where this notion that they're not comes from

The notion comes from Ottoman invasion and supposedly “mixing with and raped Turks”.
The confirmation comes from genetics,

“Very white” my fucking ahh. They plot even closer to Lebanese than they do Germans for example. They plot alongside Albanians and southern Italians.

Cope.

 

[Praxxis]

Greeks are not white so they need to fucking stop larping as Romans, and Italians & Spanish need to stop loving Greeks so much with that una facca una razz bullshit,
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We all know Romans looked like this,
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Italians, mainly the North ones, are still close to the Romans

They're somewhat diluted, but I think they're 70% close to it

Calabrians weren’t invaded by Arabs tho. Maybe they are just naturally not white to begin with.

They do have some MENA in them yes, but they were just always "swarthy" & in fact they're close to the Ancient Greeks as well.

to say that southern Italians are not white is the biggest bullshit I've ever heard, Sicily had Arab influence, it's true, but also Norman and Swabian influence. Apulians and Campanians are white.
The only ones I can allow you are the CALABRIANS who were not compensated by other invasions unlike the Sicilians.

Good take, I've met quite a few Southern Italians in the US & some of them looked pretty White.

They didn't even look "Arab" they looked more like Ashkenazi Jews if anything.

Yeah fuck Italians who cope with their western culture genetically they are still closer to Arabs but they decide to hate on WHITE ARYAN Balkan people lol

Jfl Italians are closer to Western Europeans.

And Balkans aren't "Aryan" at all by any metrics, Hitler hated most of them except Croats who are more Central European if anything.

 

[Olivecel]

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On this pca Bulgarians and Romanians are closer to northern Europeans than Greeks and Italians are.

 

[Olivecel]

And Balkans aren't "Aryan" at all by any metrics, Hitler hated most of them except Croats who are more Central European if anything.

“By any metrics” except dna

Bulgarians are closer to northern Euros than any Italian region.
The painter didn’t have genetic studies back then. He based his high ahh schizo opinion on culture and level of development. The mf didn’t even consider Polocks white. Wtf??

 

[boxface34]

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On this pca Bulgarians and Romanians are closer to northern Europeans than Greeks and Italians are.

Yeah they are, its a joke

Here too Bulgarians are closer to northern euros than greeks

 

[TUSSELEIF]

The notion comes from Ottoman invasion and supposedly “mixing with and raped Turks”.
The confirmation comes from genetics,
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“Very white” my fucking ahh. They plot even closer to Lebanese than they do Germans for example. They plot alongside Albanians and southern Italians.

Cope.

You're basically admitting that your notion of whiteness is German DNA. Of course Greeks would be closer to Lebanese, since that's where Phoenicians came from. Greeks had colonies all over the Mediterranean, so did Phoenicians, and Levantines and others mixed with them, it makes the most sense geographically. Phoenicians had many colonies in Greece. Greece is geographically close to there so it makes sense for them to be closer genetically. These people look ethnic to you? They're all Greek. Greeks having Levantine DNA doesn't make them any less European

 

[TUSSELEIF]

why are ppl still arguing over this shit jfl

stop this infighting man, its how the jews managed to gain control even after the Holocaust, they are all European and we must beat back the shitskin horde like we did with the Mongols before

People on this forum have some weird obsession with downplaying the whiteness of Mediterranean Europeans, I have no idea what the motivation behind that is

 

[Olivecel]

You're basically admitting that your notion of whiteness is German DNA.

Yes. Anything northern/western European. This part of Europe has the least amount of non-European admixtures.

Of course Greeks would be closer to Lebanese, since that's where Phoenicians came from.

So not white. Jews come from the Levant JFL.

These people look ethnic to you? They're all Greek. Greeks having Levantine DNA doesn't make them any less European
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It does. Because the Levant is not in Europe.
The first image looks like a group of Ashkenazi kids. And all you managed to do is cherry pick the whitest Greeks you could find.
But here are are more I guess,

 

[Praxxis]

stop this infighting man, its how the jews managed to gain control even after the Holocaust, they are all European and we must beat back the shitskin horde like we did with the Mongols before

Based take & agreed

There is a difference between European and white Meds and Balkans are not white because they have a significant amount of non white DNA

Incorrect, both are just more ANF/EEF drifted

I am slav retard, and your the jew for trying to seperate European brothers from each other and making sure our borders stay open, well fuck you

Based Slavcel

@Olivecel you are that half Coptic schizo posting with the Canadian flag on apricity or not? I doubt you have Greek ancestry anyway let alone speak, read the language
While there is overlap with West Asians and especially South-Eastern Europeans there is no doubt that you exoticize Greeks in high degree
the average mainland Greek does not even plot close to West Asians, they are closer to Central Italians than even Southern ones (look up any Thessalonian gedmatch result being closer to Marche or Umbria than Calabria)
You have an East Med shift towards the South in both countries, Calabrians are close to Cretans or other Aegean Islanders but still in the European sphere
even the most East Med shifted Greek or South Italian can be modeled as half West Asian/West European, they are not closer to the Levant with exception of Cypriots of course
as for Bulgarians they are not exotic by any means they plot Eastern to Friulians with high Central-Eastern European shift

Based, can you share any genetic stuff?

And yeah, I kinda suspected OP isn't actually partly Greek jfl

Many south Italians have mixed north African Berber DNA. Greeks are very white, Idk where this notion that they're not comes from. Greeks are arguably the most European since that's where the notion of Europe comes from

It's only some Sicilians as another user pointed out

And jfl at thinking Greeks are "very white" which would imply they look straight outta Finland. cage!

 

[Olivecel]

People on this forum have some weird obsession with downplaying the whiteness of Mediterranean Europeans, I have no idea what the motivation behind that is

You just said Italians have Berber admixture so you are also downplaying “the whiteness of Mediterranean Europeans”. Don’t be so hypocritical.