Suspecting my ‘Greekness’ for talking about Greeks this way while you’re simultaneously agreeing with my opinion about Greeks? Are you fucking high or just rage baiting?
Probably northern Greeks.
These are kids so their features aren’t fully developed. But I can tell many of them are gonna grow up to have darker skin and ethnic-looking features already.
Ethnic faces. White skin alone≠white necessarily. Phenotype is more important. Jews have white skin but don’t have the same facial features as actual whites.
Well, Meds are technically the "least White" but they're still genetically European & a sizable amount do look White/Whitish still
Based examples
I more or less said some Greeks can be on the same skin-tone as MENA, but they have different facial features & also are genetically European
Italians are 100% European, talking about real Italians and not immigrants. Greeks are mostly mixed race. Native Muslim Europeans got deported to turkey, while Christian Asians got deported to greece, they call themselves Greek today, while looking brown and Asian, they are not European, but they became Greeks because of their religion.
I more or less said some Greeks can be on the same skin-tone as MENA, but they have different facial features & also are genetically European
It’s the other way around. Greek facial features resemble middle eastern ones (big noses, curly hair, dead eyes, hairy, etc.) although they are tremendously lighter than MENAs on average. Some Greeks are pretty dark tho.
Not the southern ones.Italians are 100% European, talking about real Italians and not immigrants. Greeks are mostly mixed race.
Population exchange between Greece and Turkey - Wikipedia
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400 years of ottoman rule left its marks, bro
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Southern Italy was never under Ottoman rule. You mean Arabs?400 years of ottoman rule left its marks, bro
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Are you dyslexic?
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I’m talking about southern Italy, not Greeks. We already agree Greeks aren’t fully white. But somehow you still believe all Italians are fully white which is bs. The south is not.Are you dyslexic?
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Agreed on the Italians, except for some Sicilians & some other regions of SouthItalians are 100% European, talking about real Italians and not immigrants. Greeks are mostly mixed race.
Population exchange between Greece and Turkey - Wikipedia
Most common Phenos are Pontid, Gracile Med, etc:
They are lighter than many, but can be on the same skin-tone level as many tbh
That's mainly in relation to Islander Greeks in the Aegean iirc & probably Southern Ones
Only Sicily was & I think Calabria, the rest wasn't
They are European, unless they are immigrants. Simple as that. Native Italians = European, immigrants from North Africa = not European (also they don’t claim to be European lol). Fuck off, retard
Are you a Greek?Agreed on the Italians, except for some Sicilians & some other regions of South
As for Greece, it depends on the region I'd say: Not to mention, I'm pretty sure it's Turks who are more mixed than Greeks and West Anatolians are basically just Greeks who became Turks in name and also became Pisslamic
Most common Phenos are Pontid, Gracile Med, etc:
They are lighter than many, but can be on the same skin-tone level as many tbh
That's mainly in relation to Islander Greeks in the Aegean iirc & probably Southern Ones
If it broke down by region, North would skew towards Europe.
Only Sicily was & I think Calabria, the rest wasn't
Pontid pheno is so beautiful , arguably the most beautiful med sub raceAgreed on the Italians, except for some Sicilians & some other regions of South
As for Greece, it depends on the region I'd say: Not to mention, I'm pretty sure it's Turks who are more mixed than Greeks and West Anatolians are basically just Greeks who became Turks in name and also became Pisslamic
Most common Phenos are Pontid, Gracile Med, etc:
They are lighter than many, but can be on the same skin-tone level as many tbh
That's mainly in relation to Islander Greeks in the Aegean iirc & probably Southern Ones
If it broke down by region, North would skew towards Europe.
Only Sicily was & I think Calabria, the rest wasn't
Gracile med is not the most common.Most common Phenos are Pontid, Gracile Med, etc:
Northern Greeks still in between Europe and MENA. Island Greeks are literally closer to Lebanese people. I’ll show you,
True.
wow a real bulgarian nigga like me slayed a snowbunny lets go hope dayim half bulgarian, half swedish but thank god my dad is slavic bulgarian and not mixed with turkish pigs
Cope.
The average Greek makes a DNA test and finds out he’s 50% Egyptian and 20% Iranian and only 30 % European. They also don’t look European, Greeks have Asian and Arabic facial features.
I already know Greeks aren’t white so you are saying this stuff for nothing.
Southern Italians never claimed to be white, they don’t suffer from inferiority complexes, they are proud and strong, meanwhile Greeks want to be white so bad. Alexander iz Onli Grik
Are you Albanian or smthnSouthern Italians never claimed to be white, they don’t suffer from inferiority complexes, they are proud and strong, meanwhile Greeks want to be white so bad. Alexander iz Onli Grik
WTF. Why are you asking me if I’m Albanian? Do you have some beef with each other or something?
I'm seeing dozens of Turks irl everyday, there's like 1/3 of them that looks European (those Turks have Slavic/Balkan/Greek DNA which is still not white tho), the rest are brown just like Iranians or Armenians
True
no one from the Balkans is white, there's just some white-passing Balkan people and that's it
this for some reason this forum always had a obsession with race
none of those ethnicities (Italians, Greeks, Bulgarians) is white, whiteness is western Germanic concept which is rooted in "Aryanism" (genetical, phenotypical, cultural, civilisational)
Cause the “only grik” meme was spread by Albanian nationalists in tiktok jflWTF. Why are you asking me if I’m Albanian? Do you have some beef with each other or something?
Culturally Greeks are white. Racially they are not.
It’s much more known than you think, sorry…
No such thing as culturally white. You’re white or youre not, simple as that. And your kind is not white, sorry to break your heart.
So what you're saying is you're basing whiteness on amount of non-European admixture. Which refutes what you say about whiteness being north-western European, because Greeks have no relations at all genetically to north-west Europeans. Only Pontic Greeks and Aegean islanders can be considered to have Levantine admixture. Pontics are Caucasoid and are closer to Armenians. But the largest chunk of Greeks have eastern European admixture and are within the European genetic spectrum, which is why I think Greeks look more eastern European than Levantine. Greeks have always had mixes of blonde, brown and black hair colours, with a majority of Greeks having brown hair. 11% has light hair, a decent chunk of the population.
>Implying Finno-Ugrics are very white
Bulgarians are the master race
Northern Greeks you speak of are the ones who look phenotypically Eastern European (more specifically Balkan). They are not the largest chunk of Greeks by any means. In terms of land mass this true, but not in terms of population.
They do have a point in a sense, but they overstate it
it also has Gypsies in it & Jewish communities
Good point, Western Anatolians also can look Greek heavily(look up Pontid pheno & look at the map)
Balkans are Dinarics, who are a White classification
Dinarid is distinct, MENA is distinct jfl
I know of this yes
I'm doubting a lot right now, as someone else pointed out
Can you not read it? South is drifted not up, but more towards the other southern ones, indicating strong ANF & also Balkan admixture
They have some ANF in them found in all of Europe, and also some Steppe/Yamnaya DNA from Slavic admixture
This is a good point
Well said
Lmao
Dinarid is related to Armenoid in terms of skull structure and facial features according to racial anthropologists. Only differences are pigmentation.
^ what I said up there.
Good for you. Idc what you doubt of me.
Do I gotta explain in detail? Wtff:
Greeks and southern Italians also have some degree of Natufian and Iranian Neolithic ancestries that the rest of Europe lacks completely:
Western Balkans are Dinaric while Eastern (Bulgaria, Macedonia, Romania) are not
there's no such thing as genetically European, Europeans are a large group of totally different peoples who live on the same area
Saar I swear I’m Germanic Saar
bulgarians are germanic too checkmate
Thank God I’m not actually Bulgarian that would mean my ratios would be fucked too
These are pretty dark but a lot of Turks are darker tbh, especially in eastern Turkey (Kurds).
