Why atheism is cope | full debunk of atheism.

[liberiangrimreaper]

Logics proves God

thats why i didnt say prove or disprove jfl

“Debunking atheism”

 

[Mainlander]

Are you asking for his first point or mine?

his

 

[fk732]

The claim is material, anything we come up with in our head is part of the material not metaphysical world as it exists within our thoughts and consciousness which is our brain, if you got shot in the brain this would cease which shows that it’s a real physical thing that exists in our brain.

the claim is material in substance but methaphysical in essence buddy boyo

 

[fk732]

Interesting so I guess you’ve never picked up a history book, and things like the Christian persecutions and he codes of pagans and non believers never happened.

nice appeal to autority

 

[theRetard]

The claim is material, anything we come up with in our head is part of the material not metaphysical world as it exists within our thoughts and consciousness which is our brain, if you got shot in the brain this would cease which shows that it’s a real physical thing that exists in our brain.

consciousness is material? holy shit, i didn't know that. How can you touch or smell your conscious then?

 

[fk732]

“Debunking atheism”

yes? two different thing

 

[fk732]

consciousness is material? holy shit, i didn't know that. How can you touch or smell your conscious then?

fr theres no study ever that begin to observe consciousness

 

[EmperorVon]

the claim is material in substance but methaphysical in essence buddy boyo

That’s just word salad. If it’s tied to the brain and stops when the brain does, it’s physical. Everything we process is material as it exists in our brain.

 

[EmperorVon]

consciousness is material? holy shit, i didn't know that. How can you touch or smell your conscious then?

Not in that sense you fucking retard, their are forms of energy you can’t touch or smell and many things which are material that we can’t. Everything in the universe is material and we can’t even observe all of it so I guess that makes it metaphysical god magic too huh?

 

[theRetard]

fr theres no study ever that begin to observe consciousness

That’s just word salad. If it’s tied to the brain and stops when the brain does, it’s physical. Everything we process is material as it exists in our brain.

 

[Klasik616]

The worst part about this debate is that no one has asked what existence and being is. That's why they are confusing logic with existence. It's like we are in the old age philosophy again, thinking you "can give existence to something" with just thoughts.

 

[theRetard]

this guy is so retarded holy shit

 

[theRetard]

Not in that sense you fucking retard, their are forms of energy you can’t touch or smell and many things which are material that we can’t. Everything in the universe is material and we can’t even observe all of it so I guess that makes it metaphysical god magic too huh?

That’s just word salad. If it’s tied to the brain and stops when the brain does, it’s physical. Everything we process is material as it exists in our brain.

 

[EmperorVon]

fr theres no study ever that begin to observe consciousness

I’ve got one for you, ask someone something before and after you remove half of their brain.

 

[theRetard]

The worst part about this debate is that no one has asked what existence and being is. That's why they are confusing logic with existence. It's like we are in the old age philosophy again.

-martin heidegger

 

[EmperorVon]

That’s just word salad. If it’s tied to the brain and stops when the brain does, it’s physical. Everything we process is material as it exists in our brain.

Can’t debunk my claim so starts sperging out. Everything in the universe is a part of the physical world and is not metaphysical. Try to prove me wrong but you can’t, can you?

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

yes? two different thing

lol

 

[fk732]

The worst part about this debate is that no one has asked what existence and being is. That's why they are confusing logic with existence. It's like we are in the old age philosophy again, thinking you "can give existence to something" with just thoughts.

ur smart asf nigga i appreciate you

 

[theRetard]

Can’t debunk my claim so starts sperging out. Everything in the universe is a part of the physical world and is not metaphysical. Try to prove me wrong but you can’t, can you?

"Can’t debunk my claim so starts sperging out. Everything in the universe is a part of the physical world and is not metaphysical. Try to prove me wrong but you can’t, can you?" - a metaphysical claim

 

[fk732]

"Can’t debunk my claim so starts sperging out. Everything in the universe is a part of the physical world and is not metaphysical. Try to prove me wrong but you can’t, can you?" - a metaphysical claim

 

[EmperorVon]

"Can’t debunk my claim so starts sperging out. Everything in the universe is a part of the physical world and is not metaphysical. Try to prove me wrong but you can’t, can you?" - a metaphysical claim

That’s not metaphysical, are you so retarded you don’t understand? Everything we know, process or believe is part of the brain and is only possible because of the brain, consciousness which allowed for the creation of a concept like metaphysical only exists because of the brain and physical things in the material world. My god you’re retarded, try talking about metaphysics without a brain.

 

[Klasik616]

That’s not metaphysical, are you so retarded you don’t understand? Everything we know, process or believe is part of the brain and is only possible because of the brain, consciousness which allowed for the creation of a concept like metaphysical only exists because of the brain and physical thing in the material world. My god you’re retarded, try talking about metaphysics without a brain.

Prove your memories are physical.

 

[theRetard]

That’s not metaphysical, are you so retarded you don’t understand? Everything we know, process or be,ieve is part of the brain and is only possible because of the brain, consciousness which allowed for the creation of a concept like metaphysical only exists because of the brain and physical thing in the material world. My god you’re retarded, try talking about metaphysics without a brain.

sarte also said bullshit like that and heidegger debunked that shit because negation of metaphysics is ALREADY metaphysics as well @Klasik616

 

[EmperorVon]

Prove your memories are physical.

JFL why do people with dementia and Alzheimer’s lose their memories because it’s part of the brain. Learn basic biology it’s the the hippocampus.

 

[fk732]

That’s just word salad. If it’s tied to the brain and stops when the brain does, it’s physical. Everything we process is material as it exists in our brain.

if you only accept the mode of manefistation of a thing but you cant distinguish it from its essence then stfu

 

[theRetard]

JFL why do people with dementia and Alzheimer’s lose their memories because it’s part of the brain. Learn basic biology it’s the the hippocampus.

why are you so rude, chatgpt? i thought we are good friends

 

[EmperorVon]

if you only accept the mode of manefistation of a thing but you cant distinguish it from its essence then stfu

What essence? Prove the “essence” exists, stop talking jibberish.

 

[fk732]

JFL why do people with dementia and Alzheimer’s lose their memories because it’s part of the brain. Learn basic biology it’s the the hippocampus.

jfl bro even physically they dont lose them they just dont have access to them in the brain but theryre still there physiclally

 

[Klasik616]

sarte also said bullshit like that and heidegger debunked that shit because negation of metaphysics is ALREADY metaphysics as well @Klasik616

Viena circle memories. Well then we must create a theory of knowledge that doesn't need truth? A theory of language.

 

[EmperorVon]

why are you so rude, chatgpt? i thought we are good friends

Debunk it them retard, I’ve proven that everything we believe including concepts and beliefs like metaphysics are due to the brain a physical thing that exists in the real material physical world not the metaphysical god magic dimension.

 

[theRetard]

What essence? Prove the “essence” exists, stop talking jibberish.

essence is a thing what makes something what it is, so if something has no essence, then it doesn't exist. so accroding to you nothing "exists"

 

[EmperorVon]

jfl bro even physically they dont lose them they just dont have access to them in the brain but theryre still there physiclally

They’re damaged which affects it, if it’s removed along with other parts all memories are gone. Do you people not understand biology or science, is that why you’re religion cucks?

 

[fk732]

What essence? Prove the “essence” exists, stop talking jibberish.

omg

 

[Klasik616]

Debunk it them retard, I’ve proven that everything we believe including concepts and beliefs like metaphysics are due to the brain a physical thing that exists in the real material physical world not the metaphysical god magic dimension.

So once you die nothing exists? Because they're just beliefs in the brain.

 

[EmperorVon]

essence is a thing what makes something what it is, so if something has no essence, then it doesn't exist. so accroding to you nothing "exists"

Essence isn’t real that’s just a metaphysical concept you created in your head due to your consciousness which exists due to the brain a physical thing.

 

[theRetard]

Debunk it them retard, I’ve proven that everything we believe including concepts and beliefs like metaphysics are due to the brain a physical thing that exists in the real material physical world not the metaphysical god magic dimension.

>the reality is physical

(the reality concept is metaphysical btw)

 

[EmperorVon]

So once you die nothing exists? Because they're just beliefs in the brain.

Everything exists for others but yes you cease to exist which means everything ceases to exist.

 

[fk732]

What essence? Prove the “essence” exists, stop talking jibberish.

essence is literally " what something is " answering whatness you just fooling urself

 

[theRetard]

Essence isn’t real that’s just a metaphysical concept you created in your head due to your consciousness which exists due to the brain a physical thing.

that physicalist bullshit also exists only in your head then

 

[Klasik616]

"Everything exists for others" "you cease to exist which means everything ceases to exist"

 

[fk732]

Essence isn’t real that’s just a metaphysical concept you created in your head due to your consciousness which exists due to the brain a physical thing.

this nigga worship the brain fr

 

[EmperorVon]

>the reality is physical

(the reality concept is metaphysical btw)

You are like a child, how don’t you understand this? Yes physical is a concept given because of our consciousness, that’s what our brain does, it likes to label things and create concepts to understand the information it’s taking in. Doesn’t mean metaphysics exists and god exists. Metaphysics is just an idea created by the brain.

 

[Minuskul]

the most obvious argument is: non-existence does not exist, so it's impossible for god to not exist. It's ontological

Lol so unicorn exist bc they cannot not exist

 

[Napoleon1800]

Im gonna show you why being an atheist is going against logic, and reason. And why every ' smart ' atheist that try to explain it with - logic and reason, will end up facing a wall.

definitions | contingent : A contingent being is one whose existence is not necessary; it exists but could have not existed. Its essence (what it is) is distinct from its existence (that it is).
necessary : A necessary being is one that must exist by its own nature; its essence and existence are identical. It cannot not exist.

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Logics proves God :

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God is what we call ' self sufficient ', or necessary. In him everything is hold unto existence in any instant. Wether its physical or spiritual its grounded in God. this allow us to be able to use reason and logic, for both of those things can only exist in a God.​

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Without God, the universe is just a set of contingent, purely material, and in the physical realm theres no logic nor reason, why? well its not something you can localise, its not in your brain, its not anywhere physically, logical absolute exist universaly indepandently from us. ​

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is 1+1 equal to 3? no its 2. this is called the law of non contradiction ¬(A ∧ ¬A) : In plain terms: something cannot be true and false, in the same way and in the same moment. Do you agree with the law of non contradiction ( wich is a logical absolute ) ? yes -> continue reading​

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no -> if you say " its false " your assuming your statement is non con​

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contradictory in order for it to make any sense, self debunked.​

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the Transcendental argument.​

1. Logic, reason, and moral absolutes exist.
2. These are immaterial, universal, invariant, and necessary realities.
3. Such realities cannot arise from matter, motion, or chance.
4. Therefore, their existence requires a transcendent, rational source.
5. This source must be personal, rational, and self-existent. God.
6. The denial of God presupposes God, because using logic requires the very framework only He grounds.
7. Therefore, without God, logic, reason, and truth are impossible.

Conclusion, atheism is illogical and irrational.​

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Reason proves God :

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One of the smartest man to ever live, saint Thomas aquinas gave us 5ways to know God using only reason, and we saw before that reason itself presupose God so literraly we dont even need those 5 ways but still great to have. ​

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The Five Ways of St. Thomas Aquinas :​

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1. The Argument from Motion (The Unmoved Mover)​

• Observation: Everything in motion is moved by something else.
• Problem: If every mover is moved by another, there would be an infinite regress.
• Conclusion: There must be a first, unmoved mover that initiates all motion.

2. The Argument from Efficient Cause (The First Cause)​

• Observation: Everything that exists has a cause.
• Problem: A chain of causes cannot extend infinitely backward.
• Conclusion: There must be a first, uncaused cause that brings everything else into existence.

3. The Argument from Contingency (The Necessary Being)​

• Observation: Many things in the universe are contingent (they could exist or not exist).
• Problem: If everything were contingent, at some point nothing would have existed.
• Conclusion: There must exist a necessary being whose existence is not contingent on anything else.

4. The Argument from Degree (Gradation of Perfection)​

• Observation: Things in the world exist in varying degrees of goodness, truth, nobility, etc.
• Problem: Degrees imply the existence of a maximum by which all others are measured.
• Conclusion: There must exist a being that possesses all perfections to the fullest degree.

5. The Teleological Argument (The Argument from Design / Final Cause)​

• Observation: Non-intelligent things act toward ends and achieve results that are orderly.
• Problem: Non-intelligent things cannot direct themselves.
• Conclusion: There must exist an intelligent being that directs all things toward their purpose.

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Final conclusion,
Atheism ultimately undermines the very tools it relies on to argue for itself. To deny God is to deny the foundation of existence, the ground of reason, and the source of truth. Logic, morality, and meaning cannot exist as universal, binding realities without a necessary, intelligent being to sustain them. Yet every atheist argument presupposes these things: it uses reason to claim that reason itself has no ultimate basis. Without God, thought becomes arbitrary, truth becomes subjective, and the universe becomes a meaningless flux. To reject the divine is to step outside the framework that makes rational discourse, knowledge, and understanding possible. atheism is self-defeating: it cannot justify itself without appealing to what it denies.

Can we get a tldr

 

[fk732]

Everything exists for others but yes you cease to exist which means everything ceases to exist.

oh yeah so things exist outside of your brain subjective interpretation??? so now theres an objective reality??

 

[comebotd]

Why do you have to do all these specific rituals and prayers and say his name out. Why doesn't he judge by your character and not by some practice? like for instance a dude could commit mass attrocities, rape, genocide, mutilations all the most heinous crimes, but by the end of his life, if he decides to convert and accept god, he can live in paradise. But some fucking dude in timbuktu doesn't do all those attrocities but he is gonna get viciously raped in the ass by some demonic bbc for eternal life, cause didn't decide to preach gods name? How is god fair?

 

[theRetard]

Lol so unicorn exist bc they cannot not exist

>muh only material things are real

sure

 

[EmperorVon]

What’s wrong, it’s true, you cease to exist which means everything stops because we see everything through our eyes. If your grandparents died everything ceased to exist for them but not you but it will eventually.

 

[fk732]

Lol so unicorn exist bc they cannot not exist

unicorn are contingent, they can not exist and they can exist also " possible "

 

[fk732]

Can we get a tldr

a what?