Why being an athiest is not any more logical than religion

[Deleted member 21182]

After analysing both science and religion the truth is you need faith for both

If ur an atheist you need to believe that space and time and life could literally come from an explosion in nothing

You have to believe life came to be from non life

Both of these require faith as if u remove a creator from the equation shit hardly makes any more sense

 

[NZb6Air]

Then you didn't think about it enough, however you're very close to the truth

 

[PARISIEN]

Atheist dont check anycase they just chose to live in the moment instead to follow random rules

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Then you didn't think about it enough, however you're very close to the truth

nobody knows how life came to be or how the Big Bang did precisely

U have to have faith in order to believe life could arise from non life

 

[NZb6Air]

nobody knows how life came to be or how the Big Bang did precisely

U have to have faith in order to believe life could arise from non life

your starting the thoughts on the wrong foot, if u wanna have the convo

define god

 

[Altruіst]

how did you analyze science? there's literally a book about nothing, and it's not what you think it is (not that you can even elaborate on it)

 

[Deleted member 21182]

your starting the thoughts on the wrong foot, if u wanna have the convo

define god

A being out of the limits of time maybe in the 4th dimension

A being that has always been was never created

Sounds just as possible as a big bang or life starting from rocks and water floating in the tissue of space

 

[NZb6Air]

A being out of the limits of time maybe in the 4th dimension

A being that has always been was never created

Sounds just as possible as a big bang or life starting from rocks and water floating in the tissue of space

Do you realize that your definition is nonsensical ?

You're saying God is a being that isn't

 

[vanillaicecream]

Given that you can't even spell atheist I don't see why anyone should take this seriously

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

My opinion on this soon…

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Do you realize that your definition is nonsensical ?

You're saying God is a being that isn't

He is because he has always been

Point is it’s just as logical as a dark void of nothingness creating an explosion

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

After analysing both science and religion the truth is you need faith for both

If ur an atheist you need to believe that space and time and life could literally come from an explosion in nothing

You have to believe life came to be from non life

Both of these require faith as if u remove a creator from the equation shit hardly makes any more sense

The sad thing for Gaytheists is they can’t make an account for anything everything is relative for them which means it’s essentially meaningless as there’s no truth so you can make your own bullshit up as a Gaytheist lol

 

[Flowerpot]

if u remove a creator from the equation shit hardly makes any more sense

Doesn't make sense with a creator in it, either.

 

[vanillaicecream]

But I'll entertain it anyway just for the sake of the argument.

If ur an atheist you need to believe that space and time and life could literally come from an explosion in nothing

You have to believe life came to be from non life

No, this is the absolute most braindead kindergarten tier understanding of atheism. Atheism in itself doesn't make any self-sufficient and independent propositions as an alternative to the god hypothesis, it is merely a rejection of a proposition rather than an attempt to put forth a proposition of its own. So learn logic before you try to poke holes in something you lack a basic comprehension of.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Given that you can't even spell atheist I don't see why anyone should take this seriously

To believe the concentration of energy in a dark infinite void can blow up and make the massive universe we have today is just as crazy as believing in a god if not more so

 

[NZb6Air]

He is because he has always been

What ?

I'm asking what is God ?
Your answer : God is a being that isn't but is because he has always been

That is not a definition

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Doesn't make sense with a creator in it, either.

That’s my point if ur a radical athiest ur also on shit

But i believe something so complex as the universe and life points to a creator

Nobody would look at an iPhone and say oh this just happened by chance due to a physical reaction of energy

No when ppl see something this complex and detailed people logically point to a creator

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

But I'll entertain it anyway just for the sake of the argument.

No, this is the absolute most braindead kindergarten tier understanding of atheism. Atheism in itself doesn't make any self-sufficient and independent propositions as an alternative to the god hypothesis, it is merely a rejection of a proposition rather than an attempt to put forth a proposition of its own. So learn logic before you try to poke holes in something you lack a basic comprehension of.

No. Most Gaytheists make propositions stating that we can learn everything using empirical sense data. Sure you have different types of atheists but the majority are rank empiricists which means they have literally no account for anything such as ethnics, metaphysics and more in fact for an farthest to say there is no god is an metaphysical claim which is self defeating for their argument lol as most presuppose such things don’t exist

 

[Deleted member 21182]

What ?

I'm asking what is God ?
Your answer : God is a being that isn't but is because he has always been

That is not a definition

Truth is nobody can truly understand what god is since we are limited into a reality were time and matter have an origin

But a theoretical god transcends that

I’m not claiming to be religious but I think that theory is just as logical as energy explosion in a void creating matter and life

 

[PARISIEN]

since i have took the atheism pill, cant take serious any believers fr

 

[Deleted member 21182]

But I'll entertain it anyway just for the sake of the argument.

No, this is the absolute most braindead kindergarten tier understanding of atheism. Atheism in itself doesn't make any self-sufficient and independent propositions as an alternative to the god hypothesis, it is merely a rejection of a proposition rather than an attempt to put forth a proposition of its own. So learn logic before you try to poke holes in something you lack a basic comprehension of.

The way most atheists present themselves is as science lovers

If ur just not sure it’s better to just call urself agnostic

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

My opinion on this soon…

your starting the thoughts on the wrong foot, if u wanna have the convo

define god

Brief explanation

God = Creator of Creation; THE Energy/Source, that’s entirely pure and is unbound/unaffected by time, space and matter. In the sources will, it created an existence that holds its qualities (i.e to create, to love, to be merciful). Almost like a legacy-passing relationship between it and all existence in this bound.

With this definition, ‘God’ could be a wide variety of things—meaning it could be Big Bang Theory, or whatever a spiritual book claims it as.

 

[Beastimmung]

A being out of the limits of time maybe in the 4th dimension

A being that has always been was never created

Sounds just as possible as a big bang or life starting from rocks and water floating in the tissue of space

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

since i have took the atheism pill, cant take serious any believers fr

Vomit the pill ASAP

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

What ?

I'm asking what is God ?
Your answer : God is a being that isn't but is because he has always been

That is not a definition

We know who he is but not what he is. The what is something humans cannot comprehend. Non Christian’s (esp Muslims) and even many Christian’s struggle understanding the trinity and that’s simply the WHO. Imagine trying to understand the WHAT lmfao .

God is a being, a being is an existence so we know he exists we know who he is but that’s it we cannot know WHAT he is for he is outside our mode but he has interacted with us to shine light upon us as to who he is by condescending himself to us without exhausting himself. This is called “Analogical predication” we use created things to explain an uncreated being.

 

[castizo]

After analysing both science and religion the truth is you need faith for both

If ur an atheist you need to believe that space and time and life could literally come from an explosion in nothing

You have to believe life came to be from non life

Both of these require faith as if u remove a creator from the equation shit hardly makes any more sense

dnrd

 

[Deleted member 21182]

since i have took the atheism pill, cant take serious any believers fr

I’m not a believer per say but I am also not taking what science provides as any better

All Ik is historical evidence points to people dying for a man named Jesus out of pure faith in his resuscitation

That seems like enough evidence for someone to accept Jesus as the saviour of the world

 

[PARISIEN]

Vomit the pill ASAP

Imagine HTB come to you and SAY "lets fuck right now i want you and i want to give my virginity".

WILL YOU SAY NO ? NOT BEFORE MARRIAGE ?

 

[PARISIEN]

I’m not a believer per say but I am also not taking what science provides as any better

All Ik is historical evidence points to people dying for a man named Jesus out of pure faith in his resuscitation

That seems like enough evidence for someone to accept Jesus as the saviour of the world

Jesus would hates what christianity became, he would insult every people who go to church and he would be killed by the actual christian like the deluded jews did

 

[Deleted member 21182]

What ?

I'm asking what is God ?
Your answer : God is a being that isn't but is because he has always been

That is not a definition

That’s the problem most ppl want to understand god but trying to understand a being like that is like a worm trying to understand a human

It’s a level so beyond its comprehension it’s impossible

And I don’t see why this is any less logical than a big bang

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Imagine HTB come to you and SAY "lets fuck right now i want you and i want to give my virginity".

WILL YOU SAY NO ? NOT BEFORE MARRIAGE ?

I’d fuck her and I’m religious but that’s cos of my own spiritual weakness as a sinner and the fact that I’m a horny son of a bitch who has deep insecurities

 

[FascisstChad]

Creationism is true, atheists can fuck their monkey cousins.

 

[vanillaicecream]

No. Most Gaytheists make propositions stating that we can learn everything using empirical sense data.

This is not a proposition that posits an alternative to what brought the universe into being, moron. Learn the difference between positive propositions and objections that point out problems with the proposition that was brought to the table in the first place. Theists are completely illiterate in logic, if you really want to do this I absolutely guarantee you will be demolished and shown up as the dangerously deluded religious idiot you are.

 

[PARISIEN]

I’d fuck her and I’m religious but that’s cos of my own spiritual weakness as a sinner and the fact that I’m a horny son of a bitch who has deep insecurities

If u follow religion.

than u go str8 to hell

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

Imagine HTB come to you and SAY "lets fuck right now i want you and i want to give my virginity".

WILL YOU SAY NO ? NOT BEFORE MARRIAGE ?

Yes, I’ll decline

If she blatantly said that to me, it shows her lack of control for containing egotistical and unjust desires—The main problem with why society is evil. It’ll be bad in the long run . Sex is too sacred imo to give it up like that

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Jesus would hates what christianity became, he would insult every people who go to church and he would be killed by the actual christian like the deluded jews did

Nope . Wrong. Sure he’d correct the heretics known as Protestants and Roman Catholics but Eastern Orthodox we will pray and follow Jesus the same way the apostles did with 0 deviation we essentially haven’t changed anything. Protestants would be told off though that’s true

 

[NZb6Air]

Truth is nobody can truly understand what god is since we are limited into a reality were time and matter have an origin

But a theoretical god transcends that

I’m not claiming to be religious but I think that theory is just as logical as energy explosion in a void creating matter and life

none of this mean anything, I'm asking for a definition of the concept of God, what does this word u're using actually mean

God = Creator of Creation; THE Energy/Source, that’s entirely pure and is unbound by time, space and matter. In the sources will, it created an existence that holds its qualities (i.e to create, to love, to be merciful).

With this definition, ‘God’ could be a wide variety of things—meaning it could be Big Bang Theory, or whatever a spiritual book claims it as.

what does "creator of creation" mean

 

[PARISIEN]

Yes, I’ll decline

If she blatantly said that to me, it shows her lack of control for containing egotistical and unjust desires—The main problem with why society is evil. It’ll be bad in the long run . Sex is too sacred imo to give it up like that

this is exatcly why i took the atheism pill, ruining my present moment for something i cant control. the future.

 

[enriquecel]

After analysing both science and religion the truth is you need faith for both

If ur an atheist you need to believe that space and time and life could literally come from an explosion in nothing

You have to believe life came to be from non life

Both of these require faith as if u remove a creator from the equation shit hardly makes any more sense

a believer has nothing to lose if religion ends up being fake, but a non believer has everything to lose if religion turns out to be real

 

[0proteindiet]

Deism mogs

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

If u follow religion.

than u go str8 to hell

Not if I am serious at repentance…

This is not a proposition that posits an alternative to what brought the universe into being, moron. Learn the difference between positive propositions and objections that point out problems with the proposition that was brought to the table in the first place. Theists are completely illiterate in logic, if you really want to do this I absolutely guarantee you will be demolished and shown up as the dangerously deluded religious idiot you are.

lmfao the irony of an Gaytheist stating that religious people are “illogical” when gaythiesim is an entire worldview that cannot make an account for fundamental transidental arguments. I bet you don’t even know the 3 rules of logic do you?

You won’t demolish anything your an atheist your whole worldview is one founded upon trying to be an obnoxious twat and you have been cucked every time jay dyer debates your best and makes them leave with a prolapsed anus

 

[FascisstChad]

Do you realize that your definition is nonsensical ?

You're saying God is a being that isn't

And a being who exists beyond time and space would need to abide by your limited mortality and finite minds comprehension of logic?

 

[Deleted member 21182]

none of this mean anything, I'm asking for a definition of the concept of God, what does this word u're using actually mean



what does "creator of creation" mean

A creator (god) would be the one who created everything

An intelligent being living outside the restrictions of space and time

To me this Unironically makes more sense than energy concentrating together and blowing up into a beautiful universe

 

[PARISIEN]

Nope . Wrong. Sure he’d correct the heretics known as Protestants and Roman Catholics but Eastern Orthodox we will pray and follow Jesus the same way the apostles did with 0 deviation we essentially haven’t changed anything. Protestants would be told off though that’s true

then reread the fuckin bible.

idolatry is banned. why there is cross everywhere ? jesus said you dont need a giant temple to pray, why there is church everywhere ?
jesus instuled temple merchant why they ask me for money in church ?

it doesnt make any sense. most of atheist believes in a god or a big architecht, but they are disgusted by islam/judaism/christianism cuz a lot of non sense there

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

none of this mean anything, I'm asking for a definition of the concept of God, what does this word u're using actually mean



what does "creator of creation" mean

I’ll use an quick analogy: The Creator of Roblox; a game that allows people to create their own games as long as they desire to.

God = “Creator of Roblox” Roblox Game Developers = all of existence bound by the laws/conditions of “The Game”

 

[PARISIEN]

Not if I am serious at repentance…

lmfao the irony of an Gaytheist stating that religious people are “illogical” when gaythiesim is an entire worldview that cannot make an account for fundamental transidental arguments. I bet you don’t even know the 3 rules of logic do you?

You won’t demolish anything your an atheist your whole worldview is one founded upon trying to be an obnoxious twat and you have been cucked every time jay dyer debates your best and makes them leave with a prolapsed anus

its too easy to repent thats why lot of christians is full of hypocrite

 

[Deleted member 21182]

And a being who exists beyond time and space would need to abide by your limited mortality and finite minds comprehension of logic?

This is a major problem I see with many human arguments when trying to understand god

They wanna fit a being who is so beyond us into human rationalism

The only way to try to explain god is to put him outside of anything you know to be true in the laws of the universe

 

[FascisstChad]

What ?

I'm asking what is God ?
Your answer : God is a being that isn't but is because he has always been

That is not a definition

If god needs a starting point so does the universe. Then how did the universe come to be? If it was always here in some form then how come god couldn’t have always been?

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

this is exatcly why i took the atheism pill, ruining my present moment for something i cant control. the future.

Living by your ego and its worldly values/desires will only lead you to one fate; one future: Death and Immortality.

So basically you’re saying your lack of controlling your fleshly values, lack of empathy, sympathy, etc, and ignorance is the reason why you left spiritually?

 

[FascisstChad]

This is a major problem I see with many human arguments when trying to understand god

They wanna fit a being who is so beyond us into human rationalism

The only way to try to explain god is to put him outside of anything you know to be true in the laws of the universe

Exactly. Think about how many animals or life forms can’t possibly comprehend or even have the most basic forms of concepts which to us are simple. They don’t even realise what they don’t know or couldn’t know. Terry explains this with a good analogy.