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Let's start and see why Cristiano is a better player than Messi. First of all, Ronaldo is the most completed attacker in the history of football. Why? He is fast, he has shooting,dribbling,skills,playmaking,physicallity,heading,he has no weakfoot. Now let's compare both to see who is a better player though.
Pace - Cristiano
Shooting - Cristiano
Dribbling - Messi
Skills - Cristiano
Playmaking - Messi
Heading - Cristiano
Physicality - Cristiano
Weakfoot - Cristiano
Clutch - Cristiano
Football IQ - Messi
Longevity - Cristiano
Finishing - Cristiano
Penalties - Cristiano
Free kicks - Messi
Passing - Messi
Vision - Messi
Ronaldo wins 10-6 so I just proved why he is more complete than Messi and a better player.
But Messi has more ballondors though
I will show you why Messi should have 5 ballondors instead of 8 and why Ronaldo should have 6 instead of 5.
First of all the criteria of the ballondor is : individual performance (stats) and trophies and the importance of trophies and awards
With that criteria let's see why Messi didn't deserved these 3 ballondors:
As you can clearly see Lewandowski better stats, more trophies, and more awards than Messi yet the ballondor was given to Messi
If you do not agree with this at this point you are just coping.
Now the second undeserved ballondor:
Van Dijk had a top 5 defenders prime of all time, got passed legit by 2 players all of the season, had one of the best stats of a defender ever, won the tremble (UCL,Premier league, Fa cup), won the UEFA Best Player of the Year and STILL guess who won the ballondor? You can't deny the truth.
Now the third and final undeserved ballondor:
Haaland literally broke every single Premier league record there is, won the tremble, top scorer in premier league, UCL, Fa cup. But but Messi had better stats than Haaland Messi had more G/A than Haaland because Haaland is a Striker so you can't even compare G/A to Haaland vs Messi. But your gonna say then Why Haaland doesn't have more Goals than Messi because he plays Striker? Haaland had 56 goals and Messi 41. So you could say that individual performance goes to both I guess. But Haaland had way more trophies than Messi and more important ones. Premier league, UCL, FA cup, Fifa club world cup > World cup, Ligue 1 cup.
"But Messi had more awards than Haaland bro". Messi only won UEFA Best Player of the year and he didn't even deserved that because in that award world cup doesn't even count. Uefa best player of the year is based to who did the best year on the ucl. And Messi got eliminated FROM ROUND OF 16. And Haaland won the UCL and was the top scorer of the tournament. So the award should have gone to either Haaland, KDB, or Rodri. So we can see that Messi didn't deserve this ballondor as well.
Now lets see why Ronaldo should have 6 ballondors instead of 5:
Ronaldo had WAY better stats and they had the same trophies. Also Ronaldo got robbed of the UEFA best player of the year and maybe the PUSKAS award that year
If you still think that Messi deserves 8 ballondors after this you are just delusional and you cope.
So if it was fair: Cristiano 6 ballondor - Messi 5 ballondor.
But Messi won the world cup
First of all, if being the best is having a world cup then Pele is the best player in the world Which is not true.
So the world cup debate is useless.
Also how can Ronaldo win a world cup when Portugal had a shit team every year except 2022 which he had depression and lost his child thats why he didnt played well in the world cup. He managed to win Euro's and Nations league with a shit Portugal team. And he is carrying this team for so many years.
Also Ronaldo vs Messi internationally:
That proves that Ronaldo is good in internationally levels.
Ronaldo doesn't have a bad international career as Messi fans say.
Unlike this fraud right here:
That proves that Ronaldo internationally = Messi internationally. Messi is not better than Ronaldo internationally. They are equal.
Also even the world cup that he won was questionable watch this thread here :
Another thing that Messi fans say is that Messi has a better goal ratio and more assists than Ronaldo so let's debunk this:
The only reason Messi has a better goal ratio than Ronaldo is because Ronaldo played 200+ games as a midfielder and he was coming off the bench sometimes too.
Let's see now if you remove Ronaldo's first 200 games and Messi's first 200 games. Also keep in mind that Messi started his career as an attacker.
Now let's see why Ronaldo was a midfielder:
For a full explanation here:
Who had more goals each year:
2007- Cristiano
2008- Cristiano
2009- Messi
2010- Messi
2011- Cristiano
2012- Messi
2013- Cristiano
2014- Cristiano
2015- Cristiano
2016- Messi (Ronaldo had 5 games less with 4 goals difference.
2017- Messi (He had 1 more goal than Ronaldo but he played 4 games more)
2018- Messi (He had 2 more goals than Ronaldo with 3 more games played)
2019- Messi
2020- Cristiano
2021- Cristiano
2022- Messi
2023- Cristiano
Ronaldo wins 9-8 but keep in mind that if Messi played more games almost every season so Ronaldo could have won by more as well.
Now Messi has more assists than Ronaldo but that is because Messi played with better teammates than Ronaldo did. And keep in mind that Messi is a 10.
Now let's see Messi's best teammates vs Ronaldo's best teammates:
Ronaldo: Ramos, Marcelo, Modric, Kroos, Di maria, Kaka, Higuain, Paul scholes, Rooney, Ferninand, Vidic, Van de Sar, Casillas.
Messi: Ronaldinho, Eto'o, David Villa, Thiery Henry, Zlatan, Puyol, Suarez, Neymar, Dani alves, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Ter stegen, Valdes, Toure, Mbappe.
How can you not have more assists when you have these teammates? Ronaldo never had such a good teammates.
Now I wanna expose why Messi is a very bad big game player.
When you have the best attacking trio in football history, a world class midfield, a good defence how can you only win 1 UCL?
Messi ghosted after group stages for so many years. Like 2012,2013,2014,2016,2017,2018. Why?
View attachment 2790612
Bro becomes a ghost in big games.
Now Ronaldo vs Messi vs the Best GK's of the decade.
Brutal.
Ronaldo when Messi had the best attacking trio in the world and a world class team.
That's what being clutch and carrying a team looks like.
"But Messi has more trophies bro"
He got 3 laliga from the bench, and most of his trophies are the same because he only stayed at Spain.
I prefer to have 2 laliga's, 3 premier league, 2 seria a cups, instead of having 10 laliga's only. And keep in mind he won 3 laligas in bench and in every el classico Barcelona was favoured. Like 2014,2015,2017,2018. Many ungiven pens to us. Even with that though Ronaldo still has better trophies than Messi.
Also let's not talk that Ronaldo at 35-36 was at juve/man utd scoring goals and hattricks while Messi at 35-36 is at Inter Miami.
Also Ronaldo vs Messi in finals: Ronaldo 4 wins and 1 lose and Messi 1 Win and 4 losses.
Some other stats:
Easily Mr. UCL
But but Messi was better at Ronaldo in Laliga
And one last thing. Every legend says that Ronaldo is better like: Pele, Maradona, Xavi, Roberto Carlos, Zidane. Even the younger talents say the same like: Haaland,Mbappe, Vinicius, Rodrygo, Garnacho etc.
"But Messi has a better prime bro" , Messi's Prime goals without friendlies: 79, trophies won: 0, ghosted once again to lead his team to 0 trophies that year, one of the most overrated primes ever. Ronaldo Prime 2014 or 2012: In 2014, 61 goals 20 assists, UCL, supercopa, Uefa Super cup, Fifa club world cup, copa del rey, 17 goals at UCL. Ronaldo at 2012: 63 goals 15 assists, Laliga, Copa del rey, Super copa. Both of these Primes of Ronaldo are better than 2012.
Wake up Cristiano is the greatest player of all time and not this corrupted midget. Stats and football don't lie you can't cope. Cristiano is the greatest without a question.
End of thread.
Pace - Cristiano
Shooting - Cristiano
Dribbling - Messi
Skills - Cristiano
Playmaking - Messi
Heading - Cristiano
Physicality - Cristiano
Weakfoot - Cristiano
Clutch - Cristiano
Football IQ - Messi
Longevity - Cristiano
Finishing - Cristiano
Penalties - Cristiano
Free kicks - Messi
Passing - Messi
Vision - Messi
Ronaldo wins 10-6 so I just proved why he is more complete than Messi and a better player.
But Messi has more ballondors though
I will show you why Messi should have 5 ballondors instead of 8 and why Ronaldo should have 6 instead of 5.
First of all the criteria of the ballondor is : individual performance (stats) and trophies and the importance of trophies and awards
With that criteria let's see why Messi didn't deserved these 3 ballondors:
As you can clearly see Lewandowski better stats, more trophies, and more awards than Messi yet the ballondor was given to Messi
If you do not agree with this at this point you are just coping.Now the second undeserved ballondor:
Van Dijk had a top 5 defenders prime of all time, got passed legit by 2 players all of the season, had one of the best stats of a defender ever, won the tremble (UCL,Premier league, Fa cup), won the UEFA Best Player of the Year and STILL guess who won the ballondor?
You can't deny the truth.Now the third and final undeserved ballondor:
Haaland literally broke every single Premier league record there is, won the tremble, top scorer in premier league, UCL, Fa cup. But but Messi had better stats than Haaland
Messi had more G/A than Haaland because Haaland is a Striker so you can't even compare G/A to Haaland vs Messi. But your gonna say then Why Haaland doesn't have more Goals than Messi because he plays Striker? Haaland had 56 goals and Messi 41. So you could say that individual performance goes to both I guess. But Haaland had way more trophies than Messi and more important ones. Premier league, UCL, FA cup, Fifa club world cup > World cup, Ligue 1 cup."But Messi had more awards than Haaland bro". Messi only won UEFA Best Player of the year and he didn't even deserved that because in that award world cup doesn't even count. Uefa best player of the year is based to who did the best year on the ucl. And Messi got eliminated FROM ROUND OF 16. And Haaland won the UCL and was the top scorer of the tournament. So the award should have gone to either Haaland, KDB, or Rodri. So we can see that Messi didn't deserve this ballondor as well.
Now lets see why Ronaldo should have 6 ballondors instead of 5:
Ronaldo had WAY better stats and they had the same trophies. Also Ronaldo got robbed of the UEFA best player of the year and maybe the PUSKAS award that year
If you still think that Messi deserves 8 ballondors after this you are just delusional and you cope.
So if it was fair: Cristiano 6 ballondor - Messi 5 ballondor.
But Messi won the world cup
First of all, if being the best is having a world cup then Pele is the best player in the world
Which is not true.So the world cup debate is useless.
Also how can Ronaldo win a world cup when Portugal had a shit team every year except 2022 which he had depression and lost his child thats why he didnt played well in the world cup. He managed to win Euro's and Nations league with a shit Portugal team. And he is carrying this team for so many years.
Also Ronaldo vs Messi internationally:
That proves that Ronaldo is good in internationally levels.
Ronaldo doesn't have a bad international career as Messi fans say.
Unlike this fraud right here:
That proves that Ronaldo internationally = Messi internationally. Messi is not better than Ronaldo internationally. They are equal.
Also even the world cup that he won was questionable watch this thread here :
Another thing that Messi fans say is that Messi has a better goal ratio and more assists than Ronaldo so let's debunk this:
The only reason Messi has a better goal ratio than Ronaldo is because Ronaldo played 200+ games as a midfielder and he was coming off the bench sometimes too.
Let's see now if you remove Ronaldo's first 200 games and Messi's first 200 games. Also keep in mind that Messi started his career as an attacker.
Now let's see why Ronaldo was a midfielder:
For a full explanation here:
Who had more goals each year:
2007- Cristiano
2008- Cristiano
2009- Messi
2010- Messi
2011- Cristiano
2012- Messi
2013- Cristiano
2014- Cristiano
2015- Cristiano
2016- Messi (Ronaldo had 5 games less with 4 goals difference.
2017- Messi (He had 1 more goal than Ronaldo but he played 4 games more)
2018- Messi (He had 2 more goals than Ronaldo with 3 more games played)
2019- Messi
2020- Cristiano
2021- Cristiano
2022- Messi
2023- Cristiano
Ronaldo wins 9-8 but keep in mind that if Messi played more games almost every season so Ronaldo could have won by more as well.
Now Messi has more assists than Ronaldo but that is because Messi played with better teammates than Ronaldo did. And keep in mind that Messi is a 10.
Now let's see Messi's best teammates vs Ronaldo's best teammates:
Ronaldo: Ramos, Marcelo, Modric, Kroos, Di maria, Kaka, Higuain, Paul scholes, Rooney, Ferninand, Vidic, Van de Sar, Casillas.
Messi: Ronaldinho, Eto'o, David Villa, Thiery Henry, Zlatan, Puyol, Suarez, Neymar, Dani alves, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Ter stegen, Valdes, Toure, Mbappe.
How can you not have more assists when you have these teammates? Ronaldo never had such a good teammates.
Now I wanna expose why Messi is a very bad big game player.
When you have the best attacking trio in football history, a world class midfield, a good defence how can you only win 1 UCL?
Messi ghosted after group stages for so many years. Like 2012,2013,2014,2016,2017,2018. Why?
View attachment 2790612
Bro becomes a ghost in big games.
Now Ronaldo vs Messi vs the Best GK's of the decade.
Brutal.
Ronaldo when Messi had the best attacking trio in the world and a world class team.
That's what being clutch and carrying a team looks like.
"But Messi has more trophies bro"
He got 3 laliga from the bench, and most of his trophies are the same because he only stayed at Spain.
I prefer to have 2 laliga's, 3 premier league, 2 seria a cups, instead of having 10 laliga's only. And keep in mind he won 3 laligas in bench and in every el classico Barcelona was favoured. Like 2014,2015,2017,2018. Many ungiven pens to us. Even with that though Ronaldo still has better trophies than Messi.
Also let's not talk that Ronaldo at 35-36 was at juve/man utd scoring goals and hattricks while Messi at 35-36 is at Inter Miami.
Also Ronaldo vs Messi in finals: Ronaldo 4 wins and 1 lose and Messi 1 Win and 4 losses.
Some other stats:
Easily Mr. UCL
But but Messi was better at Ronaldo in Laliga
And one last thing. Every legend says that Ronaldo is better like: Pele, Maradona, Xavi, Roberto Carlos, Zidane. Even the younger talents say the same like: Haaland,Mbappe, Vinicius, Rodrygo, Garnacho etc.
"But Messi has a better prime bro" , Messi's Prime goals without friendlies: 79, trophies won: 0, ghosted once again to lead his team to 0 trophies that year, one of the most overrated primes ever. Ronaldo Prime 2014 or 2012: In 2014, 61 goals 20 assists, UCL, supercopa, Uefa Super cup, Fifa club world cup, copa del rey, 17 goals at UCL. Ronaldo at 2012: 63 goals 15 assists, Laliga, Copa del rey, Super copa. Both of these Primes of Ronaldo are better than 2012.
Wake up Cristiano is the greatest player of all time and not this corrupted midget. Stats and football don't lie you can't cope. Cristiano is the greatest without a question.
End of thread.
