Why do the incels who’ve given up tend to not have any interest in .org-style humor (mog battles, morphs, etc.)?

[thecel]

Why did Incels.is develop such different vibes than .org and PSL, despite most of .org users also being virgins and incels?

If you’ve browsed Incels.is and Looksmax.org, it probably didn’t take long for you to notice distinctly different vibes, personalities, and posting styles between the 2 sister sites.

It makes total sense that a forum for involuntary celibates and a forum for looksmaxers attract different types of people. The interesting observation is, between the 2 websites, the demographics of inceldom are both high, but the userbases’ posting styles are quite different. This shows that both sites attract incels, but the kinds of incels they attract are different, personality-wise.

Why, even though the majority of .org is virgin (according to official polls), you seldom find the same vibes and kinds of humor on .is that’re common on .org? The forum for incels didn’t attract the people who like to hang out on Looksmax, even though these same people often are involuntarily celibate. How come?

The immediate explanation seems to be “oh well it’s ’cause the Looksmax users want to looksmax.” However, most users aren’t doing shit to looksmax and are rotting just like the guys who live on Incels.is. Except they post differently.

What’s fascinating is that Looksmax.org—the site not for incels—is actually a place that incels SPEND MORE TIME in than Incels.is. Just visit .is and scroll down to the online stats. On .is, a lot fewer registered members are online at any given time. Counterintuitively, the forum meant for incels has fewer rotters than the forum focused on ascension.

What I really want to know is why is it so rare to find people like me who share the defining characteristics of both sites:

• Steadfast blackpill beliefs
• Incel
• Basement lifestyle
• Resentful mentality
• Given up on ascending; belief that the juice isn’t worth the squeeze

AND

• Liking of Lookism-style humor
• Interest in morphing
• 
• Interest in mog battles and forum drama
• Interest in arguing about craniofacial measurements

Why do the incels who’ve given up tend to not have any interest in .org-style humor (mog battles, morphs, etc.)? Seems that an incel either (1) is focused on ascending and engages in PSL banter or (2) has given up and does not engage in PSL banter. Incels who both have given up and also morph skulls are super rare.

 

[Sanguinius]

I haven’t spent any time on the other site, do you spent the majority of your time here? If so, why are you here and not there?

 

[Wallenberg]

I haven’t spent any time on the other site, do you spent the majority of your time here? If so, why are you here and not there?

He's a looksmaxer.

 

[thecel]

I haven’t spent any time on the other site, do you spent the majority of your time here? If so, why are you here and not there?

I prefer the vibes and personalities here. I’d spend my time there if it has the culture of .org.

Paradise = a forum of only incels (no Chads, no sex-having normies) + .org/PSL/Looksmaxing culture

 

[Wallenberg]

I prefer the vibes and personalities here. I’d spend my time there if it has the culture of .org.

Paradise = a forum of only incels (no Chads, no sex-having normies) + .org \ Lookism culture

Didn't you just have sex?

 

[Deleted member 25059]

if you've seen a few threads from .is where they talk about .org, you should know why.

they practically view .org userbase as coping homosexuals who use talking about surgery as a guise for rating and worshiping men.

They laughing that someone here thinks that using retin a and sunscreen will make him chad. which is 90% of looksmaxing info here.

 

[thecel]

Didn't you just have sex?

NO. Keep assuming. I am an incel until I post an “I lost my virginity” thread.

 

[Wallenberg]

NO. Keep assuming. I am an incel until I post an “I lost my virginity” thread.

Someone here said you made a brag thread about slaying a white girl.

 

[thecel]

Someone here said you made a brag thread about slaying a white girl.

I never slayed.

My Oneitis Texted Me (Sub-5'6" Sub-Oofy Doofy) a BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTAL BLACKPILL

inb4 tales from ChatGPT’s CPU Previous Thread About Her https://looksmax.org/threads/insane-oofy-doofy-subhuman-pill-i-tried-to-blackpill-my-crush-but-she-called-me-really-good-looking-and-hot-100-real-screenshots.701571

looksmax.org

 

[Sanguinius]

I prefer the vibes and personalities here. I’d spend my time there if it has the culture of .org.

Paradise = a forum of only incels (no Chads, no sex-having normies) + .org/PSL/Looksmaxing culture

Fair enough, i suppose the combination of traits you listed are rare because they’re somewhat conflicting, why make morphs if you’ve given up and maybe that humour doesn’t have the same pull because it’s a slightly different sub niche/sub genre. Just my guess but idk because I don’t fit the type that you mentioned

 

[Oxygen]

The difference is we have hope

 

[Sanguinius]

The difference is we have hope

Rhymes with….

 

[Deleted member 16275]

Didn't you just have sex?

Dude he's a filthy fakecel

 

[thecel]

The difference is we have hope

Why don’t the ones who don’t have hope like to morph, mog-battle, and argue about what’s cope and what matters, just for fun?

 

[Entschuldigung]

Looksmax.org died in 2021

 

[Oxygen]

Why don’t the ones who don’t have hope like to morph, mog-battle, and argue about what’s cope and what matters, just for fun?

Because theyre depressed and find everything fruitless

 

[thecel]

Looksmax.org died in 2021

stay tuned for the upcoming graphs

 

[Entschuldigung]

stay tuned for the upcoming graphs

Its not what it used to be
It's over for this forum tbh

 

[Anchor_Ship]

because the majority of people on here are normies who could benefit from surgery not trucels

 

[thecel]

Because theyre depressed and find everything fruitless

But they post about other stuff. Politics; videos of violence, gore, crimes, and degeneracy; race threads; tranny threads; Jew threads; etc.

If they find that stuff fruitful, why don’t they also find morphing, mog-battling, and “JFL if you ever touched a barbell” fruitful too?

 

[thecel]

because the majority of people on here are normies who could benefit from surgery not trucels

My question is why are the truecels here who’ve given up and just rot, still different from the truecels on .is?

And why do truecels actually prefer to rot on forums that aren’t incel forums? Incels.is is a less active site. Looksmax.org is more well-known for being a time-wasting destination, a site that users spend way too much time on. Incels.is is known for that too but not to the same degree.

 

[normie_joe]

.is is for users like @Zer0/∞

.org is for users like @misc001

They both have similar failos: being overweight (ignoring race for now)

But one took the initiative by working his ass off, got the surgery he needed, lost weight and is continuously improving himself.

The other one sits there in his room all day thinking about overdosing on Big Macs and jerking off to deepfaked KPop stars. This one rots and rots all day.

That's why the vibe is different; they don't want to ascend nor care. Why bother making morphs when none will bother following through on .is?

 

[thecel]

Why bother making morphs when none will bother following through on .is?

Because comical morphs are entertaining.

I can ask a similar question. Why bother posting about politics, global events, and videos of public violence (e.g. whore gets knocked out) if none of it applies to your everyday life? The answer is it’s entertaining.

 

[thecel]

because the majority of people on here are normies who could benefit from surgery not trucels

I doubt .is is full of genuine truecels. I bet most .is users mog me. Most incels aren’t subhuman, but it’s still over for them for various other reasons.

 

[thecel]

The difference is we have hope

Here’s an example of the .org humor I’m talking about:

Rate Dolph Lundgrends dick

Kinda dissapointing tbh Imagine looking like this: But having this dick:

looksmax.org

You don’t see this content on .is. But it has nothing to do with hope.

 

[Deleted member 22623]

Tbh I’m leaning more and more towards .is

The next time I see some faggot thread of morphed Hexum, I will jump ship

Although I probably wouldn’t be welcome on .is as I have sex

 

[Deleted member 28691]

i completely given up on any looksmaxxing.

the only things i am willing to do are frame-maxxing and that's it.

there is no salvaging my ugly recessed balding ass.

i like being here as you described. humour here is better.

 

[Deleted member 22918]

Always been more of a fan of the schizo mentalcel and bragging mtn/htn vibe that .net had coupled with the truecels and ltn that also posted there

But i can't tell u why

 

[Bvnny.]

Paradise = a forum of only incels (no Chads, no sex-having normies) + .org/PSL/Looksmaxing culture

Would you open an exception for me to take part in your personal paradise, homie?

Spoiler

+ here the incels are more chill than they're on incels.is, because they're not so out of touch with reality and resentful of normies and chads... like, ppl on incels.is are usually the stereotype of the 4chan chud, with no complex thoughts or personality, that's why I prefer the userbase of .org rather than .is, even tho lookism userbase mogged both userbases to oblivion

 

[thecel]

Would you open an exception for me to take part in your personal paradise, homie?

Spoiler

+ here the incels are more chill than they're on incels.is, because they're not so out of touch with reality and resentful of normies and chads... like, ppl on incels.is are usually the stereotype of the 4chan chud, with no complex thoughts or personality, that's why I prefer the userbase of .org rather than .is, even tho lookism userbase mogged both userbases to oblivion

not if you fuck

 

[Bvnny.]

not if you fuck

 

[thecel]

Because comical morphs are entertaining.

I can ask a similar question. Why bother posting about politics, global events, and videos of public violence (e.g. whore gets knocked out) if none of it applies to your everyday life? The answer is it’s entertaining.

 

[Bojack]

The answer is simple. This is chads.org; the other site is for incels.

 

[OverCoper]

I like this community because of humor, and I hate it because of indians.

 

[Deleted member 21661]

That's because .is is a forum for discussing inceldom and incel experiences, while this is a forum for discussing aesthetics. Look at the main tagline on the forum site, "aesthetics matter". While looks are a fundamental part of the reason they're incels, they aren't discussing attributes of facial structure themselves, but rather outcomes of it. To put it in another perspective, imagine two economics forums. Both are populated by majority poor people. However, one forum has people discussing their experiences being poor, while the other discusses rich people and how they made their money, as well as people who were simply born rich with some discussions (regardless of actual follow through) on how to make money.
This translates into the blackpill community as well. Let's take two people, Jimmy and Joe. Both are unsuccessful with women, and have tried bluepill advice, only to be rejected. They then seek out advice on the internet, only to later stumble across the blackpill community. After looking at a few studies, they realize that looks are important, and that they lack in this department. Joe despises this fact, and decides to find a group of like minded people to talk to, so he joins incels.is. The important thing to note is that Joe is looking for a place to vent, rather than to discuss aesthetics or possibility to improve.
Now Jimmy wants to improve his looks. He's not content with being an incel, and he's interested in things such as plastic surgery. As a result, he joins a forum dedicated to improving one's appearance. However, how are you to know what to improve (beyond basic skincare and so on), without knowing what looks good in the first place?
As a consequence of this, the forum that was originally dedicated to improving one's appearance became a forum about discussing aesthetics in general. In order for jimmy to looksmaxx, he needed to learn what was a "maxx". Such discussions spurred user interest, and Jimmy learnt that he enjoyed analyzing faces and talking about facial features. There were several other people like Jimmy, and this behavior soon was integrated into the zeitgeist of the community, with several jokes being based off of it. Models who fit the ideal were idolized and also memed, and morphs were made to fit these ideals more and more, until they reached a point where it became comical, and people joked about it.
To put it another way, regardless of the status or actions of most users, this is fundamentally a forum about improving looks, while incels.is is one about complaining about inequality. Both of these groups envy chads and desire what they have. However, looksmax.org strives to be like those chads, while incels.is despises them. Why would incels.is talk about their facial features and praise them if they dislike them?
And if .org strives to reach their level (regardless of whether it's realistic or not), they're naturally going to admire them and enjoy discussions about them

 

[thecel]

That's because .is is a forum for discussing inceldom and incel experiences, while this is a forum for discussing aesthetics. Look at the main tagline on the forum site, "aesthetics matter". While looks are a fundamental part of the reason they're incels, they aren't discussing attributes of facial structure themselves, but rather outcomes of it. To put it in another perspective, imagine two economics forums. Both are populated by majority poor people. However, one forum has people discussing their experiences being poor, while the other discusses rich people and how they made their money, as well as people who were simply born rich with some discussions (regardless of actual follow through) on how to make money.
This translates into the blackpill community as well. Let's take two people, Jimmy and Joe. Both are unsuccessful with women, and have tried bluepill advice, only to be rejected. They then seek out advice on the internet, only to later stumble across the blackpill community. After looking at a few studies, they realize that looks are important, and that they lack in this department. Joe despises this fact, and decides to find a group of like minded people to talk to, so he joins incels.is. The important thing to note is that Joe is looking for a place to vent, rather than to discuss aesthetics or possibility to improve.
Now Jimmy wants to improve his looks. He's not content with being an incel, and he's interested in things such as plastic surgery. As a result, he joins a forum dedicated to improving one's appearance. However, how are you to know what to improve (beyond basic skincare and so on), without knowing what looks good in the first place?
As a consequence of this, the forum that was originally dedicated to improving one's appearance became a forum about discussing aesthetics in general. In order for jimmy to looksmaxx, he needed to learn what was a "maxx". Such discussions spurred user interest, and Jimmy learnt that he enjoyed analyzing faces and talking about facial features. There were several other people like Jimmy, and this behavior soon was integrated into the zeitgeist of the community, with several jokes being based off of it. Models who fit the ideal were idolized and also memed, and morphs were made to fit these ideals more and more, until they reached a point where it became comical, and people joked about it.
To put it another way, regardless of the status or actions of most users, this is fundamentally a forum about improving looks, while incels.is is one about complaining about inequality. Both of these groups envy chads and desire what they have. However, looksmax.org strives to be like those chads, while incels.is despises them. Why would incels.is talk about their facial features and praise them if they dislike them?
And if .org strives to reach their level (regardless of whether it's realistic or not), they're naturally going to admire them and enjoy discussions about them

Mirin high IQ high effort post.

I have a few disagreements:

Both of these groups envy chads and desire what they have. However, looksmax.org strives to be like those chads, while incels.is despises them. Why would incels.is talk about their facial features and praise them if they dislike them?
And if .org strives to reach their level (regardless of whether it's realistic or not), they're naturally going to admire them and enjoy discussions about them

Why don’t both groups just hate the Chads and wish to be like them at the same time? I hate rich people, attractive people, tall people, happy people, etc. because I hate inequality, and I also want to be rich, GL, tall, happy, etc. because I’m human and humans have selfish desires.

It doesn’t make much sense to admire the people you want to be like, if your motivate for becoming like them is of a competitive nature. Yes admire them if your motive is non-competitive. For instance, if a guy wants to be like Albert Einstein because of his contributions to science, it makes sense to admire Einstein. On the other hand, if a guy wants to be like Chad, it’s because he wants to cuck and destroy Chad by becoming an even bigger Chad.

Why would Incels.is members talk about facial features? Obviously because they have ugly ones. I often talk about the importance of IPD and post pictures of wide-IPD moggers, to complain about how over it is for me because my IPD is narrow. It’s a very .is-tier thing to do. Yet somehow the .is users have no interest in this, despite the fact that they complain a lot too.

 

[Yuno_howitez]

incels are too whiny

 

[Deleted member 21661]

Mirin high IQ high effort post.

Thanks bhai

I have a few disagreements:

Why don’t both groups just hate the Chads and wish to be like them at the same time? I hate rich people, attractive people, tall people, happy people, etc. because I hate inequality, and I also want to be rich, GL, tall, happy, etc. because I’m human and humans have selfish desires.

That's just a fundamental difference in desire in human nature. Of course, both groups do wish to be chad, anyone does. But the difference between this is that some actively try to reach this status, and others don't. This is just what I believe to be a difference in personality and outlook of the two. Using the money example, we see this in action, quite literally. There are so many crypto forums and forums dedicated to finding ways to get rich. As an alternate, there are many communist groups that are dedicated to hating the rich and discussing ideas of how society should be restructured.

It doesn’t make much sense to admire the people you want to be like, if your motivate for becoming like them is of a competitive nature. Yes admire them if your motive is non-competitive. For instance, if a guy wants to be like Albert Einstein because of his contributions to science, it makes sense to admire Einstein. On the other hand, if a guy wants to be like Chad, it’s because he wants to cuck and destroy Chad by becoming an even bigger Chad.

This isn't necessarily true. Of course, there is a competitive aspect to any sexual dynamic. But I'm assuming that any member of this forum has an inclination towards a fascination with beauty. Of course, this is true of any human being, but I'll assume that it's higher in a forum that discusses male models to such a degree. So, if someone has a certain look that you crave to have yourself, and enjoy and appreciate a lot, it's not unlikely to grow to respect and admire them. This is how I feel with Richard Ramirez, regardless of the crimes he committed, I really like the way he looks and his style and fashion. As a result I will attempt to emulate it, and he's somewhat of an aspiration to me, as well as simply something aesthetically pleasing. I imagine, say, an aspiring soccer player who admires Messi's style of play feels the same way about him, even if he has to face him in the future. Sports is the best example of this, all prominent players have "heroes" in their sport, ones they admire, and often times they belong to the same generation as them. They may not compete with them in their prime, but they still compete with them.

Why would Incels.is members talk about facial features? Obviously because they have ugly ones. I often talk about the importance of IPD and post pictures of wide-IPD moggers, to complain about how over it is for me because my IPD is narrow. It’s a very .is-tier thing to do. Yet somehow the .is users have no interest in this, despite the fact that they complain a lot too.

Simply because of the reason I discussed earlier. If you have an interest in discussing aesthetics, you will likely join a forum with a tagline like "aesthetics matter". Incels.is still complain about failios: height, balding, recessed chins, big noses, race, and so on. But even knowing about something like IPD requires some investment in the discussion of aesthetics and human beauty. And that discussion is far more likely to occur here.
There are obvious glaring flaws to why most unattractive people are unattractive, but there are also niches beyond that to analyze even more specific features. And people who are interested in these niche features are more likely to join a forum that is about the discussion of aesthetics itself, than a forum simply talking about experiences.

I also think the lack of selfie posting on .is causes this. People can't really go to .is to get rated. Here, people will rate you and tell you your failios, which sort of prompts discussion about such features.

 

[thecel]

That's just a fundamental difference in desire in human nature. Of course, both groups do wish to be chad, anyone does. But the difference between this is that some actively try to reach this status, and others don't. This is just what I believe to be a difference in personality and outlook of the two. Using the money example, we see this in action, quite literally. There are so many crypto forums and forums dedicated to finding ways to get rich. As an alternate, there are many communist groups that are dedicated to hating the rich and discussing ideas of how society should be restructured.

Why not both? I hate the way the world works, I hate human nature, and I like to discuss ideas of how society should be restructured. At the same time, I’m in school, I invest in stocks and crypto, I go to the gym, and I try my best in the dating market (as much as I despise the way things work, it is what it is).

The question is why is it so rare to find people who are like me? The combination of the .Is and the .Org mindsets. People who simultaneously hate the system (and talk about how it should be changed) and try to succeed within it?

 

[Deleted member 21661]

Why not both? I hate the way the world works, I hate human nature, and I like to discuss ideas of how society should be restructured. At the same time, I’m in school, I invest in stocks and crypto, I go to the gym, and I try my best in the dating market (as much as I despise the way things work, it is what it is).

The question is why is it so rare to find people who are like me? The combination of the .Is and the .Org mindsets. People who simultaneously hate the system (and talk about how it should be changed) and try to succeed within it?

Simply because most people don't have a mature or rational view of the world. It simply takes a lot of resilience to both admit the brutality of the way things are, and still desire to improve. I think it says more about you than most people, that you're wiling to admit a system is unjust but not get carried away by it and pointlessly rot. Another thing you have to note is that people who are a part of these communities are not really mentally well adjusted, and tend to take the point of view of extremes, instead of being naturalistic about it.

 

[thecel]

Simply because most people don't have a mature or rational view of the world. It simply takes a lot of resilience to both admit the brutality of the way things are, and still desire to improve. I think it says more about you than most people, that you're wiling to admit a system is unjust but not get carried away by it and pointlessly rot. Another thing you have to note is that people who are a part of these communities are not really mentally well adjusted, and tend to take the point of view of extremes, instead of being naturalistic about it.

Wow I wish I were like that. This part—

At the same time, I’m in school, I invest in stocks and crypto, I go to the gym, and I try my best in the dating market (as much as I despise the way things work, it is what it is).

—isn’t as good as it sounds.

I’m in school, but I failed all my classes.

I invest, but I lose money.

Gym is a cope for me. I lift for ego and muh powerlifting. I lift for numbers more than for aesthetics.

Me “trying my best” in the dating market = talking to 1 girl in an extremely awkward way that I’m too lazy to improve.

I actually have given up. But I still morph and talk about prettyboy vs dom.

 

[thecel]

Simply because most people don't have a mature or rational view of the world. It simply takes a lot of resilience to both admit the brutality of the way things are, and still desire to improve. I think it says more about you than most people, that you're wiling to admit a system is unjust but not get carried away by it and pointlessly rot. Another thing you have to note is that people who are a part of these communities are not really mentally well adjusted, and tend to take the point of view of extremes, instead of being naturalistic about it.

I’m a mentally ill rotter

 

[Sprinkles]

.is is for sub5s

.org is for mtn - htn normie guys to improve

 

[Myth]

Lookism was this site on steroids, 3 years ago this site was also a lot more funny. Less faggots more aspie slayers

 

[thecel]

@apemaxxed

Hey bro I think I got the answer now. The answer is that I’m the biggest mental masturbater.

Most people (including .is and .org users) don’t think and talk about “maxxes” that they won’t do. They don’t talk about issues that they don’t have. Other people who have given up don’t talk about improving.

I talk about Monobloc, OBO, Le Fort II, distraction osteogenesis, LL, etc. which all are surgeries that I probably will never get.

I’m the only one who blabbers on and on about maxxes that I’m not even putting effort into.

 

[Deleted member 21661]

Wow I wish I were like that. This part—



—isn’t as good as it sounds.

I’m in school, but I failed all my classes.

Really? You seemed like a smart guy. I thought your grades would be good. How old are you?

I invest, but I lose money.

Investing is usually just gambling for people who think they're smart. Don't beat yourself up too much over it. You'll make and lose large amounts on something volatile like crypto, and big blue chip stocks will give you steady gains.

Gym is a cope for me. I lift for ego and muh powerlifting. I lift for numbers more than for aesthetics.

Everything is for ego. Muh aesthetics is ego too

Me “trying my best” in the dating market = talking to 1 girl in an extremely awkward way that I’m too lazy to improve.

And? Compare yourself to guys on .is
You'd get banned there for even talking to a girl that much

 

[Deleted member 21661]

@apemaxxed

Hey bro I think I got the answer now. The answer is that I’m the biggest mental masturbater.

Most people (including .is and .org users) don’t think and talk about “maxxes” that they won’t do. They don’t talk about issues that they don’t have. Other people who have given up don’t talk about improving.

I talk about Monobloc, OBO, Le Fort II, distraction osteogenesis, LL, etc. which all are surgeries that I probably will never get.

I’m the only one who blabbers on and on about maxxes that I’m not even putting effort into.

This is 99% of the forum man. How many people here actually get surgery? How many are even leanmaxxed?
Everyday people talk about starting their own business or pursuing some art. Nobody really does it. It's sort of human nature to just fantasize about what could be and not work on it. You just have to change it yourself.
That being said, I'd give up on lefort and OBO and monobloc. Lefort has like a 10% mortality rate and it'll be extremely hard to find an OBO surgeon that will perform on a normal guy like you. LL is somewhat reasonable but you need a lot of money.

 

[Lookologist003]

Lefort has like a 10% mortality rate

Wow! HOLY SHIT. Is that real? If so, your odds of dying on the operating table are the same as climbing into a rocket ship to go be the first recessed man on Mars.