why don't you believe in god?

[iblamexyz]

“Actions have consequences” but that consequence is eternal suffering because you chose not to dedicate your life to something you don’t have concrete evidence for, but anyway man you have your beliefs, I have mine, have a good day/night

what is stopping you for looking for god?

 

[iblamexyz]

so where tf is the proof of this nigga? and if he exists he is obs the most evil cruel creature ever.

what does proof look like to you?

and the bible doesn't claim that God is all good it say he is good not all good since you can't have a loving father without having a strict one, you following with what I am saying?

 

[william.]

yes ofc I said faith? Because I am saved thru Jesus

what is the bible about since you know about it without reading it

its about a Nigger making himself into a human nigger then sacfeficing himself for our sins
and three is three niggers but they are actully all the same nigger somehow

and this three in one nigger also loves everyone knows everything and is allpowerfull

but despite giving us humans any proof of his existence it just says so in the book, even though all bibles could easily be burnt and the religion could be made illigeal then no one will go to heaven anymore

 

[william.]

what does proof look like to you?

and the bible doesn't claim that God is all good it say he is good not all good since you can't have a loving father without having a strict one, you following with what I am saying?

hes not strict nigga. he is straight up unfair and loves human suffering

 

[iblamexyz]

its about a Nigger making himself into a human nigger then sacfeficing himself for our sins
and three is three niggers but they are actully all the nigger somehow

and this three in one nigger also loves everyone knows everything and is allpowerfull

but despite giving us humans any proof of his existence it just says so in the book, even though all bibles could easily be burnt and the religion could be made illigeal then no one will go to heaven anymore

interesting have you ever prayed or been to church? (I'll assume the answer is no)

so the trinity is very easy to understand, are you an org user? are you also a human? are you also a moid? chance are they all yes

I made them super basic because I don't know u but for me I am an uncle, a son, student how can I be all 3 of those things without being 3 different people.

do you not think that god humbling himself from being in heaven to come down on earth live and show how to be the blueprint of life he created himself and because he was so perfect that his blood shed all of our sins away.

 

[iblamexyz]

hes not strict nigga. he is straight up unfair and loves human suffering

I would disagree

 

[william.]

I would disagree

how why are some ppl ugly as fuck and some ppl gl when he KNOWS that will ruin their life.
he could prevent so many suciedes, and mental suffering.
why didnt he make looks subjective for example then it wouldnt matter

dont even get me started on the other stuff thats unfair

 

[william.]

interesting have you ever prayed or been to church? (I'll assume the answer is no)

so the trinity is very easy to understand, are you an org user? are you also a human? are you also a moid? chance are they all yes

I made them super basic because I don't know u but for me I am an uncle, a son, student how can I be all 3 of those things without being 3 different people.

do you not think that god humbling himself from being in heaven to come down on earth live and show how to be the blueprint of life he created himself and because he was so perfect that his blood shed all of our sins away.

ok i dont say anything against the trinity, you asked me what i know about the religion.

also you analogy is illogical. Im not saying why, think about it yourself.
I dont wanna debate the trinity tho since accordig to you he is all powerful and can defy logic

 

[iblamexyz]

how why are some ppl ugly as fuck and some ppl gl when he KNOWS that will ruin their life.
he could prevent so many suciedes, and mental suffering.
why didnt he make looks subjective for example then it wouldnt matter

dont even get me started on the other stuff thats unfair

I genuinely have no idea we do live in a cruel world

I feel like this verse talks about the bp though you see god looks at your heart rather than your looks to god we are a sprit not flesh he created our flesh but we are children of god

just like you wouldn't look at your mother, sister, daughter with lustful intent (on the rare case that people do they need professional help)

God is fully aware of Looksim but we are made to worship, and the reason people feel empty or unloved is because of a lack of god in their life's

 

[iblamexyz]

ok i dont say anything against the trinity, you asked me what i know about the religion.

also you analogy is illogical. Im not saying why, think about it yourself.
I dont wanna debate the trinity tho since accordig to you he is all powerful and can defy logic

ohh okay mb misread that mb on my part, I just get ppl asking me the trinity quite often do I know my auto response

okay you have a basic understanding of the bible from what you have been told in school but im ngl bro it's not enough to point where you are informed on Christianity and are able to make the claim I follow god out of fear or becasue I am lowiq

 

[william.]

I genuinely have no idea we do live in a cruel world

I feel like this verse talks about the bp though you see god looks at your heart rather than your looks to god we are a sprit not flesh he created our flesh but we are children of god

just like you wouldn't look at your mother, sister, daughter with lustful intent (on the rare case that people do they need professional help)

God is fully aware of Looksim but we are made to worship, and the reason people feel empty or unloved is because of a lack of god in their life's

where is the proof of this being real

That makes even more evil why the fuck do I have o cut my bones of just for me to still not compare to chad

ohh okay mb misread that mb on my part, I just get ppl asking me the trinity quite often do I know my auto response

okay you have a basic understanding of the bible from what you have been told in school but im ngl bro it's not enough to point where you are informed on Christianity and are able to make the claim I follow god out of fear or becasue I am lowiq

i know more about the bible bud, do you wnat me to write an essay or the basics?
yes why else you have not said one proof or logical point for your religion being true.
im also open to the idea of a "creator" but not religions(atleast for now)

 

[iblamexyz]

where is the proof of this being real

That makes even more evil why the fuck do I have o cut my bones of just for me to still not compare to chad

i know more about the bible bud, do you wnat me to write an essay or the basics?
yes why else you have not said one proof or logical point for your religion being true.
im also open to the idea of a "creator" but not religions(atleast for now)

jfl obvs I don't need an essay but you should be able tell me the core stuff of the bible if you know it bullet point wise (not asking you to do so)

you asked me a question I answered it with the bible, from a non lm standpoint you shouldn't be cutting your bones

that's why I've asked you what does proof look like to you? would you been open to praying or going to Church?

Jesus wants you to follow him not a religion and a stack of rules

 

[william.]

jfl obvs I don't need an essay but you should be able tell me the core stuff of the bible if you know it bullet point wise (not asking you to do so)

you asked me a question I answered it with the bible, from a non lm standpoint you shouldn't be cutting your bones

that's why I've asked you what does proof look like to you? would you been open to praying or going to Church?

Jesus wants you to follow him not a religion and a stack of rules

i did say the bulletpoints tho

i was reffering to surgery and yes i should based on every study ever done.

but where is the proof of the bible being real?

yeah you said he was awere of the bp wich makes even even more evil.

 

[iblamexyz]

i did say the bulletpoints tho

i was reffering to surgery and yes i should based on every study ever done.

but where is the proof of the bible being real?

yeah you said he was awere of the bp wich makes even even more evil.

well the lord is aware of everything so of course he knows bp

Greek manuscripts, eyewitness testimonies

 

[william.]

well the lord is aware of everything so of course he knows bp

Greek manuscripts, eyewitness testimonies

you are not responding to any of my arguments against you retarded belif.

if any high iq person were to see this convo they will appreciate this absolute obliteration

if u wanna keep going respond to what ive said first

 

[iblamexyz]

you are not responding to any of my arguments against you retarded belif.

if any high iq person were to see this convo they will appreciate this absolute obliteration

if u wanna keep going respond to what ive said first

great I'll the highest iq person on org @PrinceLuenLeoncur

what have I not answered lol

 

[william.]

great I'll the highest iq person on org @PrinceLuenLeoncur

what have I not answered lol

U HAVE NOT ANSWERED ANYTHING LILBRO.

i say that he is unfair then you say but he is aware of bp.
i ask for proof 3 times, now 4. Where is the proof of the bible being real

 

[anxiety]

I know org can be quite demonic not everyone and that's a funky few

however a lot of people are either atheist (strong believe that there is no god) or agnostic (don't know if there is a god)

of course there's a few Muslims and Hindu's I've seen on the forums and Christians ofc

I am self I am Christian


I am more interested in debating god exitance rather than what Muslim vs Christian's and vies versa or something else

Still open to it however

Cause its obvious. People from .org may look retarded, but most of them are high iq (it takes some brains to get the idea of hypergamy, lookism and blackpill in early age, which is not common for most low iq normies)

And the more you clever the more you think with yout own brain and become more and more sceptical, while most people just believe in any shit they have been told from childhood

we are the only living creatures, who can realise our own mortality, and we need a cope mechanism, otherwise we will become insane

God is the best cope mechanism

 

[truthhurts]

I am glad you asked

Jesus knew this would come up so that's why he was born of a virgin Mary

you still didn't answer my question

we call god the father, because not only did he creates us, God humbling himself to put himself down on Earth, when he's a divine being and dying on the cross, show's act of meekness, and Jesus wants us to live a good life

and he's set that blueprint for being on earth to demonstrate his ways

and since ur on org, you probably seen rehab room before

(just guessing by your name)

let's hypothetically say you relate with rehab, is it because of his life experience, or his looks? (and yes he hasn't done a face reveal, but he did state in his new video he looksmatches with mitten squad)

I will read this and propose my views and researches regarding this, not today but someday,

Additionally how do you do this? Linking sources and then underlying with your own words/sentences.

Appreciate it

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

i did say the bulletpoints tho

i was reffering to surgery and yes i should based on every study ever done.

but where is the proof of the bible being real?

yeah you said he was awere of the bp wich makes even even more evil.

Aight pose your questions too me stop attacking the pups and face the wolf, GAYtheist. Ask your questions

Also what do you mean by “prove Bible is real” and why would I appeal to the Bible to show you gods real if your a GAYtheist? To you it’s just a simple book what fool would try convince a GAYthiest using that?

 

[william.]

Aight pose your questions too me stop attacking the pups and face the wolf, GAYtheist. Ask your questions

Also what do you mean by “prove Bible is real” and why would I appeal to the Bible to show you gods real if your a GAYtheist? To you it’s just a simple book what fool would try convince a GAYthiest using that?

read the convo i had with you friend you lowiq christian

I dont have questions i disagree with the lie.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

read the convo i had with you friend you lowiq christian

I dont have questions i disagree with the lie.

I’m too lazy all I saw was “prove bible is real” I just don’t get it I need clarification


Proof the bible is real is that you can buy it in the shop .

So yeah be more precise explain what you really MEAN GAYthiest. Besides the RELGION comes before the Bible this is the typical culturally lapsed Prottie mindset that Christianity is some book worship RELGION like Islam. Christianity isn’t based on the Bible I hope you realise that right?so the evidence begins before the compilation of the Bible and so does the faith

 

[william.]

I’m too lazy all I saw was “prove bible is real” I just don’t get it I need clarification


Proof the bible is real is that you can buy it in the shop .

So yeah be more precise explain what you really MEAN GAYthiest. Besides the RELGION comes before the Bible this is the typical culturally lapsed Prottie mindset that Christianity is some book worship RELGION like Islam. Christianity isn’t based on the Bible I hope you realise that right?so the evidence begins before the compilation of the Bible and so does the faith

If you're too lazy to read the discussion with your friend, Sybua,
let me rephrase it for you then, retard:
Where is the proof that the Bible’s claims are true?

Let me answer for you: There is no more proof for Christianity than for Islam – and no more for Islam than for fucking Hinduism.

As I’ve already said: I’m not against the idea of a creator, but the way “He” is described in these religions does not resonate with logic.
aka saying he is all-loving

 

[Awan]

I know org can be quite demonic not everyone and that's a funky few

however a lot of people are either atheist (strong believe that there is no god) or agnostic (don't know if there is a god)

of course there's a few Muslims and Hindu's I've seen on the forums and Christians ofc

I am self I am Christian


I am more interested in debating god exitance rather than what Muslim vs Christian's and vies versa or something else

Still open to it however

Refusal to being controlled and there's neglible impact on my life whether he's really up there or just an empty sky staring back at us.

 

[iblamexyz]

Cause its obvious. People from .org may look retarded, but most of them are high iq (it takes some brains to get the idea of hypergamy, lookism and blackpill in early age, which is not common for most low iq normies)

And the more you clever the more you think with yout own brain and become more and more sceptical, while most people just believe in any shit they have been told from childhood

we are the only living creatures, who can realise our own mortality, and we need a cope mechanism, otherwise we will become insane

God is the best cope mechanism

you make a good point like I said earlier though in my thread which you dnr (not asking to lol)

I don't come from a religious background ofc there were social factors like my best friend being Christian which I had known for a year.

at my lowest I prayed to god as a last hope/resort and he is real.

I think it is the opposite when you believe in god the mainstream media can not control you

 

[iblamexyz]

I will read this and propose my views and researches regarding this, not today but someday,

Additionally how do you do this? Linking sources and then underlying with your own words/sentences.

Appreciate it

same with anyone in the bp space, you probs didn't join after 1 tik tok or video

same with the bp no one watches one edit and says yep that's true.

we relate to our own personal experience and rly learning about the bible reading watching Christian YouTubers and really challenging my irls pastor and friends on questions I don't understand

 

[iblamexyz]

Refusal to being controlled

do you not think ur being controlled on a day to day basis

 

[mmmousaa]

I know org can be quite demonic not everyone and that's a funky few

however a lot of people are either atheist (strong believe that there is no god) or agnostic (don't know if there is a god)

of course there's a few Muslims and Hindu's I've seen on the forums and Christians ofc

I am self I am Christian


I am more interested in debating god exitance rather than what Muslim vs Christian's and vies versa or something else

Still open to it however

"If God real why am i not chad"

 

[iblamexyz]

"If God real why am i not chad"

gotta love this one

 

[mmmousaa]

gotta love this one

Some people here actually use this, as well as "if God is so powerful can he make a rock he can't life"

 

[iblamexyz]

If you're too lazy to read the discussion with your friend, Sybua,
let me rephrase it for you then, retard:
Where is the proof that the Bible’s claims are true?

Let me answer for you: There is no more proof for Christianity than for Islam – and no more for Islam than for fucking Hinduism.

As I’ve already said: I’m not against the idea of a creator, but the way “He” is described in these religions does not resonate with logic.
aka saying he is all-loving

the bible claims god is love not all loving like I've said before if your parent was all loving and without any discipline they would be a pushover.

God isn't a pushover, we have eyewitness testimonies and people who aren't even Christians who are, historians claim that the crucifixion of Jesus is one of the most historical claimed evidence out there.

 

[william.]

the bible claims god is love not all loving like I've said before if your parent was all loving and without any discipline they would be a pushover.

God isn't a pushover, we have eyewitness testimonies and people who aren't even Christians who are, historians claim that the crucifixion of Jesus is one of the most historical claimed evidence out there.

yeah we have "testimonials" for all the religions retard

"he is strict" NO he is unfair and evil wich is very obvious. If you disagree explain how he is not unfair and evil

 

[iblamexyz]

yeah we have "testimonials" for all the religions retard View attachment 3838261

"he is strict" NO he is unfair and evil wich is very obvious. If you disagree explain how he is not unfair and evil
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so I mentioned eyewitness testimonies not testimonials and everyone has testimonials for anything nowadays lol, but when it comes to god if ppl tell u what god has done or been working in my life why not take the chance and I am sure you know the legal system if you get mugged if sm1 saw u getting mugged it would help you get your stuff way quicker than without a eyewitness.

I know the verse google picked it said god is love not all loving lol

 

[Jaynoyn523]

I know org can be quite demonic not everyone and that's a funky few

however a lot of people are either atheist (strong believe that there is no god) or agnostic (don't know if there is a god)

of course there's a few Muslims and Hindu's I've seen on the forums and Christians ofc

I am self I am Christian


I am more interested in debating god exitance rather than what Muslim vs Christian's and vies versa or something else

Still open to it however

i’m agnostic i don’t really believe in a religion but something beyond us had to create us, the universe is too complex and perfect for it to have been created in a randomised fashion based on probability and chance

 

[william.]

so I mentioned eyewitness testimonies not testimonials and everyone has testimonials for anything nowadays lol, but when it comes to god if ppl tell u what god has done or been working in my life why not take the chance and I am sure you know the legal system if you get mugged if sm1 saw u getting mugged it would help you get your stuff way quicker than without a eyewitness.

I know the verse google picked it said god is love not all loving lol

eyewitnesses dont mean shit. Respond to my arguments pls. every lie has so called eyewitnesses.

but when it comes to god if ppl tell u what god has done or been working in my life why not take the chance and I am sure you know the legal system if you get mugged if sm1 saw u getting mugged it would help you get your stuff way quicker than without a eyewitness.

what the fuck are u talking about. first of i dont care about your personal experience. second the mug example is just so lowiq im losing braincell. thats just not how it works and it dosent correlate

 

[Awan]

do you not think ur being controlled on a day to day basis

Not really
I can do whatever I wish as of now

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

If you're too lazy to read the discussion with your friend, Sybua,
let me rephrase it for you then, retard:
Where is the proof that the Bible’s claims are true?

Let me answer for you: There is no more proof for Christianity than for Islam – and no more for Islam than for fucking Hinduism.

As I’ve already said: I’m not against the idea of a creator, but the way “He” is described in these religions does not resonate with logic.
aka saying he is all-loving

There you go finally your dumbass has decided to finally elaborate your gay ass question

First, “proof” in this context often confuses scientific demonstration with historical or philosophical reasoning. You don’t prove historical events the way you prove gravity. The claims of Christianity, for instance, particularly the death and resurrection of Jesus, are based on historical testimony, not myth. That includes multiple early sources, hostile witnesses, and the dramatic change in the lives of the apostles, most of whom died refusing to deny what they saw.

Now, you compare Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism like they’re interchangeable — but they make radically different claims. For example:

• Christianity hinges on a falsifiable historical event (the resurrection),
• Islam denies the crucifixion ever happened,
• Hinduism is largely cyclical and mythological rather than rooted in verifiable history.

On the “all-loving” God and logic: an all-loving God doesn’t mean an uncritical teddy bear, love can be harsh it can also be oppressive and disciplined your presupposing what “Loving” means based on some weird SOY based feminine outlook. Christian theology sees God’s love as just, self-giving, and offering real freedom even if we use that freedom to reject Him. The cross is the resolution of love and justice, not a contradiction it’s not about god being this loving teddy bear.

You say these descriptions “don’t resonate with logic”, but logic alone doesn’t create meaning or purpose. Logic can’t even explain why logic itself matters unless you assume some kind of order behind the universe. You can’t even account for logic and say where it comes from and why it exists the way it exists as being universal invariant, immaterial and constant in an contingent ever changing universe

So if you’re open to a Creator, it’s worth asking: which worldview best explains not just the existence of things, but the experience of being human, love, morality, consciousness, guilt, awe, hope and ultimately an answer for things that don’t make sense in the materialistic paradigm for example LOGIC as I quite bluntly pointed out cannot exist in GAYthiesm for the afomentioned reasons above. Christianity at least claims to meet you in all of those.

You want to bitch on the bible but as I said the RELGION comes before the Bible something yet again you keep presupposing please stop asking redundant questions and being upset when nobody takes the bait


Also you say gods evil… but if there is no god by what criterion and standard are you using to measure to state gods evil? I thought these things were simply human conventions so “Evil” doesn’t ontologically exist and it’s all subjective and therefore meaningless and not true. Ultimately you can’t make any value judgement claim can you because without something to ground ethics as you love to put it there is no way for you to justify it objectively and thefore you can’t even say “God is evil” and if God is real he is the ground for ethics meaning HE IS THE ONE THAT STATES IF SOMETHING IS GOOD OR EVIL.


Yeah now your debating with an actual apologist you have nowhere to run, not as easy as debating a normie is it.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Refusal to being controlled and there's neglible impact on my life whether he's really up there or just an empty sky staring back at us.

Low IQ moment. If gods real then he’s real and it impacts your life and future.


If he’s not real then nothing at all matters and we can’t truly trust our own senses and experiences and everything is just chaotic

If gods real it philosophically changes everything

 

[LTNUser]

Low IQ moment. If gods real then he’s real and it impacts your life and future.


If he’s not real then nothing at all matters and we can’t truly trust our own senses and experiences and everything is just chaotic

If gods real it philosophically changes everything

If you need the fear of punishment to be good
Are you really good

 

[william.]

There you go finally your dumbass has decided to finally elaborate your gay ass question

First, “proof” in this context often confuses scientific demonstration with historical or philosophical reasoning. You don’t prove historical events the way you prove gravity. The claims of Christianity, for instance, particularly the death and resurrection of Jesus, are based on historical testimony, not myth. That includes multiple early sources, hostile witnesses, and the dramatic change in the lives of the apostles, most of whom died refusing to deny what they saw.

Now, you compare Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism like they’re interchangeable — but they make radically different claims. For example:

• Christianity hinges on a falsifiable historical event (the resurrection),
• Islam denies the crucifixion ever happened,
• Hinduism is largely cyclical and mythological rather than rooted in verifiable history.

On the “all-loving” God and logic: an all-loving God doesn’t mean an uncritical teddy bear, love can be harsh it can also be oppressive and disciplined your presupposing what “Loving” means based on some weird SOY based feminine outlook. Christian theology sees God’s love as just, self-giving, and offering real freedom even if we use that freedom to reject Him. The cross is the resolution of love and justice, not a contradiction it’s not about god being this loving teddy bear.

You say these descriptions “don’t resonate with logic”, but logic alone doesn’t create meaning or purpose. Logic can’t even explain why logic itself matters unless you assume some kind of order behind the universe. You can’t even account for logic and say where it comes from and why it exists the way it exists as being universal invariant, immaterial and constant in an contingent ever changing universe

So if you’re open to a Creator, it’s worth asking: which worldview best explains not just the existence of things, but the experience of being human, love, morality, consciousness, guilt, awe, hope and ultimately an answer for things that don’t make sense in the materialistic paradigm for example LOGIC as I quite bluntly pointed out cannot exist in GAYthiesm for the afomentioned reasons above. Christianity at least claims to meet you in all of those.

You want to bitch on the bible but as I said the RELGION comes before the Bible something yet again you keep presupposing please stop asking redundant questions and being upset when nobody takes the bait

ill give a long response later when im done with gym

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

If you need the fear of punishment to be good
Are you really good

No im not good the bible says nobody’s good but god and now your presupposing what “goodness” even is when your a non believer being “good” means nothing and besides the Bible is clear once again that all have fallen short of God, sure one are more fucked then others but nobody is “Good” that’s the whole point, we put our hands out to god and he carries us, all we need but do is be humble and ask that’s all he asks for.

Also just because I believe in god which acts as a semi inhibitor doesn’t mean if I was an GAYtheist I’d murder and rape people. Me obeying gods commands isn’t done out of fear but out of LOVE and obedience c the same way your mother asks you to get her something from the shop and you get it not out of fear but out of love for your mother.

As my blessed patron Saint Anthony the great said “I no longer fear god but love him for perfect love overcomes all fear”

Fearing god and keeping his commands is the beginning stage for most, the same way I tried to be good in school for my parents out of fear but as your grow into the faith and mature you begin to do things not out of fear but love.

 

[Awan]

Low IQ moment. If gods real then he’s real and it impacts your life and future.


If he’s not real then nothing at all matters and we can’t truly trust our own senses and experiences and everything is just chaotic

If gods real it philosophically changes everything

"If"
I wanna live my life,I can't just gamble it away bud

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

"If"
I wanna live my life,I can't just gamble it away bud

Then go live your life “let your will be done” but your life is fleeting you don’t know if you’ll survive tomorrow and when you have to meet the creator he won’t listen to this stupid excuse you just gave.

Anyways the evidence for god is more than the evidence not for God. Just based on transcendentals alone and the order of things there literally has to be a creator if you want me to delve into this more simply ask. But the chances of God not being real is so low it’s quite sad to see delusional atheists fooled into thinking it’s all mythology hahaha

 

[iblamexyz]

eyewitnesses dont mean shit. Respond to my arguments pls. every lie has so called eyewitnesses.

what the fuck are u talking about. first of i dont care about your personal experience. second the mug example is just so lowiq im losing braincell. thats just not how it works and it dosent correlate

what have I not answered lol, yes of course I will talk to about irl situations, cause atm the bible seems like fairy-tale to you.

I know you don't care about irl scenarios or other gibberish but for me to show how god works I will use my life as an example since eye witness are just something people use in a court of law anyway lol

I haven't answered your questions because I don't know what ur asking me jfl

 

[william.]

There you go finally your dumbass has decided to finally elaborate your gay ass question

First, “proof” in this context often confuses scientific demonstration with historical or philosophical reasoning. You don’t prove historical events the way you prove gravity. The claims of Christianity, for instance, particularly the death and resurrection of Jesus, are based on historical testimony, not myth. That includes multiple early sources, hostile witnesses, and the dramatic change in the lives of the apostles, most of whom died refusing to deny what they saw.

Now, you compare Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism like they’re interchangeable — but they make radically different claims. For example:

• Christianity hinges on a falsifiable historical event (the resurrection),
• Islam denies the crucifixion ever happened,
• Hinduism is largely cyclical and mythological rather than rooted in verifiable history.

On the “all-loving” God and logic: an all-loving God doesn’t mean an uncritical teddy bear, love can be harsh it can also be oppressive and disciplined your presupposing what “Loving” means based on some weird SOY based feminine outlook. Christian theology sees God’s love as just, self-giving, and offering real freedom even if we use that freedom to reject Him. The cross is the resolution of love and justice, not a contradiction it’s not about god being this loving teddy bear.

You say these descriptions “don’t resonate with logic”, but logic alone doesn’t create meaning or purpose. Logic can’t even explain why logic itself matters unless you assume some kind of order behind the universe. You can’t even account for logic and say where it comes from and why it exists the way it exists as being universal invariant, immaterial and constant in an contingent ever changing universe

So if you’re open to a Creator, it’s worth asking: which worldview best explains not just the existence of things, but the experience of being human, love, morality, consciousness, guilt, awe, hope and ultimately an answer for things that don’t make sense in the materialistic paradigm for example LOGIC as I quite bluntly pointed out cannot exist in GAYthiesm for the afomentioned reasons above. Christianity at least claims to meet you in all of those.

You want to bitch on the bible but as I said the RELGION comes before the Bible something yet again you keep presupposing please stop asking redundant questions and being upset when nobody takes the bait


Also you say gods evil… but if there is no god by what criterion and standard are you using to measure to state gods evil? I thought these things were simply human conventions so “Evil” doesn’t ontologically exist and it’s all subjective and therefore meaningless and not true. Ultimately you can’t make any value judgement claim can you because without something to ground ethics as you love to put it there is no way for you to justify it objectively and thefore you can’t even say “God is evil” and if God is real he is the ground for ethics meaning HE IS THE ONE THAT STATES IF SOMETHING IS GOOD OR EVIL.


Yeah now your debating with an actual apologist you have nowhere to run, not as easy as debating a normie is it.

Okay, at least your IQ is way higher than your friend’s — but it’s still impossible to prove a lie.

First of all, there’s no proof that the people who witnessed it were neutral. I could also gather people who claim to be eyewitnesses for a religion I create(stupid argument ik, but yeah). Islam, for example, also has these so-called witnesses — so what the fuck is the difference? I wasn’t comparing the religions themselves, I was comparing the "proof" of them.

As I’ve already said, God is unfair — and you haven’t replied to that. My point still standsn and, it’s very obvious He doesn’t want people to go to heaven, because He made existence so unclear and unprovable.
And as ive said why would he not make looks subjective if he isnt evil? something he easily could, right?

You’re assuming logic needs a metaphysical origin, but logic is just a system of consistent rules humans use to describe relationships between ideas. It doesn’t "exist" like a physical object, and it doesn’t require a divine source. Also, you’re using logic to argue that logic can’t exist without God — that’s self-defeating. If logic needs God, then your own argument collapses under its own weight.

If you’re asking for my personal opinion, I’ll be honest: I don’t know. But I definitely don’t believe in evolution. Tbh i belive "science" to be a kind of religion and part of an agenda. Ill give it to you tho the west was much better when everyone believed in god.

YES, I’m bitching on religions — because it’s obviously a tool for making massive amounts of money. Are you even aware of how much money circulates within the Vatican and other major churches? and also control lowiqs.

The standard im using to my claim "god is evil" is the following: human suffering caused by god. for example the bp, natural disaster ect. i am making the claim under your worldveiw because god in chirstinaty is claimed to hate human suffering.
(Lamentations 3:32-33). God does not want people to suffer, and He will end suffering. He just has not done it yet.
Also objective morality is BS, where is the proof of stealing being wrong. If I benefit from stealing then how would it not beabsolutely morally right."you go to hell" fair enough is thats the response.

I know you don't care about irl scenarios or other gibberish but for me to show how god works I will use my life as an example since eye witness are just something people use in a court of law anyway lol

I haven't answered your questions because I don't know what ur asking me jfl

yeah the irl situation was stupid and didnt fit in
Answer my question? you didnt answer my arguments*

 

[iblamexyz]

you didnt answer my arguments

what even are ur arguments

 

[william.]

what even are ur arguments

bud im not doing it again figure it out youself

 

[Awan]

Then go live your life “let your will be done” but your life is fleeting you don’t know if you’ll survive tomorrow and when you have to meet the creator he won’t listen to this stupid excuse you just gave.

Anyways the evidence for god is more than the evidence not for God. Just based on transcendentals alone and the order of things there literally has to be a creator if you want me to delve into this more simply ask. But the chances of God not being real is so low it’s quite sad to see delusional atheists fooled into thinking it’s all mythology hahaha

Yes human lives are short,It's as unreal as a dream that ends in an instant.Although I do not wanna die,I do not fear death.I am already on my right path,I will strive to have no regrets even if I die.
Fool who are restrained by so called religions and morals like you are everywhere.When you see somebody who is not being chained up like you,you would impose your so called divine morality upon him not allowing others to have more freedom than you.
What's truly sad is that you feel pride and moral superiority from these acts and even enjoy living in a sad delusional life bound by chains believing in some all loving and good God who will Reward you when you spend your entire life in accordance with a so called holy book supposedly sent by god.Basically living like retrained dogs getting rewarded with treats when you obey and hellfire when you don't.

 

[Awan]

do you not think ur being controlled on a day to day basis

Yeah that's almost unavoidable as of now sadly
However i'm still young and i believe I can change that
Not bound by the world
Not bound by heavens

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Yes human lives are short,It's as unreal as a dream that ends in an instant.Although I do not wanna die,I do not fear death.I am already on my right path,I will strive to have no regrets even if I die.
Fool who are restrained by so called religions and morals like you are everywhere.When you see somebody who is not being chained up like you,you would impose your so called divine morality upon him not allowing others to have more freedom than you.
What's truly sad is that you feel pride and moral superiority from these acts and even enjoy living in a sad delusional life bound by chains believing in some all loving and good God who will Reward you when you spend your entire life in accordance with a so called holy book supposedly sent by god.Basically living like retrained dogs getting rewarded with treats when you obey and hellfire when you don't.

There are no “right paths” if there’s no god your just going through the motions and a slave to your chemical neuron activations you essentially have no free will . As I said true atheism leads to Nihilism everything you think is alls objective and not even true or meaningful in anyway, it’s quite sad tbh. I feel you guys don’t look or think deep enough about these things to reach an adequate sensible conclusion and instead look on the surface level for everything

The irony of what you said about feeling pride is that a true Christian would feel shame at their sins a true Christian would feel many things but most off all regret pain and resolution to do better for the world and themselves.

Pride is not the fruit of the spirit it’s not the fruit of a Christian. Our saints speak on such things, humility is so crucial for our religion Christ himself humbled himself to become a man and even he washed the feet of his disciples. What greater act of love and humility is there than that? So my point stands so.