why east asians are not better than whites at creating technologies, wealth and civilizations despite having a higher iq

[Deleted member 28418]

Nothing out there to suggest your outlandish theory. Europeans = light male + dark female.

first dark skinned males started only breeding the most neotenous females (because the ice reduced polygyny), this created whites, whites were a minority in europe and then started having many wives (black and white) and many children through polygyny, thanks to the technology they created thanks to their better brains, this might also be the reason of why european males have lighter skin than european women:

how light skin, hair and eyes were created and spread through polygyny, and how white men cucked black men

light skin and light eyes were created around 10,000-20,000 years ago there are a lot of gene mutations that can happen in animals, light skin and and light eyes were mutations, humans arived europe 50,000 years ago, at that time we were in the last ice age, at that time nomadic humans subsisted...

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[Deleted member 13787]

first dark skinned males started only breeding the most neotenous females (because the ice reduced polygyny), this created whites, whites were a minority in europe and then started having many wives (black and white) and many children thanks to the technology they created thanks to their better brains, this might also be the reason of why european males have lighter skin than european women

how light skin, hair and eyes were created and spread through polygyny, and how white men cucked black men

light skin and light eyes were created around 10,000-20,000 years ago there are a lot of gene mutations that can happen in animals, light skin and and light eyes were mutations, humans arived europe 50,000 years ago, at that time we were in the last ice age, at that time nomadic humans subsisted...

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Except they started fucking darker women thousands of years ago, while possessing more primitive technology. (Aryans into india, EHG with CHG, Steppe herders with native euro women, ANEs with NEA women into the americas)

The tradition pretty much began at the inception of the males with nordic coloring, repeatedly abandoning their light counterparts for dark women. Which is why european men are now lighter than european women. Its a white tradition and any white male should uphold.

 

[Deleted member 25938]

It's called the industrial revolution. That's literally the main reason why whites came out on top in the last few hundred years.

Song Dynasty China nearly achieved the Industrial Revoltution 500 years before the real one


Europeans aren't inherently better than anyone in Eurasia. Europe only got ahead of the Middle East, India and east asia in the 1600s. It's basically a level playing field for centuries besides africa, SEA and the Americas which were behind

This is partly the reason why the US-China are in such a big rivalry right now. The US was the center of the Industrial Revolution, but China and other East Asian countries are outpacing the West in the digital revolution/age.

Africa, Southeast Asia, and the Americas also had their glory days, they were just much shorter, unknown, and exhibited a lesser quantity of output. It makes me wonder how much countries like India, Pakistan, Brazil, Indonesia, and the African continent will outpace the West and East Asia in the future, if at all (if we believe that the genetic components of intelligence and human productivity as OP pointed out about Asians as true and also applicable to other groups).

 

[forevermirin]

interesting post

 

[Deleted member 28418]

Except they started fucking darker women thousands of years ago, while possessing more primitive technology. (Aryans into india, EHG with CHG, Steppe herders with native euro women, ANEs with NEA women into the americas)

The tradition pretty much began at the inception of the males with nordic coloring, repeatedly abandoning their light counterparts for dark women. Which is why european men are now lighter than european women. Its a white tradition and any white male should uphold.

look how BWCs destroyed blacks 10,000 years ago:

these two graphs show the number of men (left) and women (right) who reproduced throughout human history, i want you to take a look at 10,000 years ago:

8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man

An analysis of modern DNA uncovers a rough dating scene after the advent of agriculture.

psmag.com

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"All this began to change about 10,000 years ago when those humans who began to adopt agriculture became more numerous and more powerful than their wandering relatives. This transition from mobile hunting and gathering to sedentary agriculture was the most violent in human history. The fossil record shows that, as a percentage of total population, more men died from war in these years than in any other time in human history, including World War I and World War II.
Those conquered but not killed in these battles usually became slaves, and those slaves were not equally distributed among the victors. Only the richest and most powerful families could afford to buy and keep slaves, so as the size and complexity of these societies grew from city-states into empires, a familiar pattern took shape. Anthropologist Dr. Laura Betzig explained that in any large ancient empire “powerful men mate with hundreds of women, pass their power on to a son by a legitimate wife, and take the lives of men who get in their way.”
And so polygamy became the dominant human mating pattern for thousands of years. This only began to change with the advent of Christianity — as monogamous as the Romans and Greeks were among citizens, sex with slaves was accepted and even encouraged. But it's not as if Jesus delivered the Sermon on the Mount and then every European became monogamous the next day. It took time, centuries even, for the Church to impose or, really, reimpose, monogamy on the West, but it did eventually become the norm."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/when-did-monogamy-become-the-norm

 

[Deleted member 18522]

obviously because only really wealthy intelligent Chinese can afford and can get visa to go to US

It’s the opposite lol. Most of the Chinese Americans are descendants of low iq jungle Asian south Chinese farmers or Hong Kong people. High iq tall Korean east coast Chinese and Manchurians don’t leave their country

 

[Deleted member 18522]

but even back in time, when europeans weren‘t dominating globally we had the most innovations, we were the first to properly develop gunpowder warfare, far-range sailing etc.

not even mentioning that 90% of the most impactful scientists are of european origin

Before the 16th century most of the biggest inventions were from China and the near east.

 

[Deleted member 26859]

It’s the opposite lol. Most of the Chinese Americans are descendants of low iq jungle Asian south Chinese farmers or Hong Kong people. High iq tall Korean east coast Chinese and Manchurians don’t leave their country

yea sure man..

 

[Deleted member 28418]

Before the 16th century most of the biggest inventions were from China and the near east.

"11th"

 

[Deleted member 13787]

look how BWCs destroyed blacks 10,000 years ago:

these two graphs show the number of men (left) and women (right) who reproduced throughout human history, i want you to take a look at 10,000 years ago:
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8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man

An analysis of modern DNA uncovers a rough dating scene after the advent of agriculture.

psmag.com

Spoiler

"All this began to change about 10,000 years ago when those humans who began to adopt agriculture became more numerous and more powerful than their wandering relatives. This transition from mobile hunting and gathering to sedentary agriculture was the most violent in human history. The fossil record shows that, as a percentage of total population, more men died from war in these years than in any other time in human history, including World War I and World War II.
Those conquered but not killed in these battles usually became slaves, and those slaves were not equally distributed among the victors. Only the richest and most powerful families could afford to buy and keep slaves, so as the size and complexity of these societies grew from city-states into empires, a familiar pattern took shape. Anthropologist Dr. Laura Betzig explained that in any large ancient empire “powerful men mate with hundreds of women, pass their power on to a son by a legitimate wife, and take the lives of men who get in their way.”
And so polygamy became the dominant human mating pattern for thousands of years. This only began to change with the advent of Christianity — as monogamous as the Romans and Greeks were among citizens, sex with slaves was accepted and even encouraged. But it's not as if Jesus delivered the Sermon on the Mount and then every European became monogamous the next day. It took time, centuries even, for the Church to impose or, really, reimpose, monogamy on the West, but it did eventually become the norm."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/when-did-monogamy-become-the-norm

From the looks of it european and asian men were fine

Btw your rule doesnt apply to indo europeans. They were less advanced than the european farmers of ancestral south indians, yet they still replaced the men and bred with their women.

 

[Deleted member 18522]

"11th"

Europeans didn’t invent shit from 4th to 14th

 

[Deleted member 13787]

High iq tall Korean

Koreans are really low iq for asians.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

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[Deleted member 28418]

From the looks of it european and asian men were fine

Btw your rule doesnt apply to indo europeans. They were less advanced than the european farmers of ancestral south indians, yet they still replaced the men and bred with their women.

in south asia the BWCs also did something similar 10,000 years ago:

Extremely autistic racial history post. Curries enter and see how we were made. VERY LONG POST.

So the modern day curry's ancestry derives from 3 ancestral groups. First and foremost, the earliest migrants to the subcontinent, who would become the south asian hunter gatherers, they were one of the earliest migrants out of Africa over 60,000 years ago. The veddid. Though when they had...

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[Deleted member 13787]

in south asia the BWCs also did something similar 10,000 years ago:

Extremely autistic racial history post. Curries enter and see how we were made. VERY LONG POST.

So the modern day curry's ancestry derives from 3 ancestral groups. First and foremost, the earliest migrants to the subcontinent, who would become the south asian hunter gatherers, they were one of the earliest migrants out of Africa over 60,000 years ago. The veddid. Though when they had...

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Not 10k, more like 3k

 

[Deleted member 25938]

Koreans are really low iq for asians.

What year is this map representing? I found an almost identical image on the internet and the values for some of the countries are different.

 

[Cheesyrumble]

yea sure man..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/lifestyle/families/article/2130022/chinese-americans-tours-guangdong-seek-out-their-roots-and-their

"Chinese Americans go back to China". They go to the southern Chinese province of Guangdong for a reason. That's were majority of immigrants cane from.

Han Chinese civilization which was born on the Yellow river in northern china pacified and conquered the south and converted them to han chinese values and culture.

Southward expansion of the Han dynasty - Wikipedia

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[Deleted member 26859]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/lifestyle/families/article/2130022/chinese-americans-tours-guangdong-seek-out-their-roots-and-their

"Chinese Americans go back to China". They go to the southern Chinese province of Guangdong for a reason. That's were majority of immigrants cane from.

Han Chinese civilization which was born on the Yellow river in northern china pacified and conquered the south and converted them to han chinese values and culture.

Southward expansion of the Han dynasty - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Chinese are 64th in the world out of 190 countries. thats pretty terrible

13,000usd per year. that is poor people salary.

Chinese people are poor.

 

[Cheesyrumble]

Chinese are 64th in the world out of 190 countries. thats pretty terrible

13,000usd per year. that is poor people salary.

Chinese people are poor.

Well compare it to even 40 years ago. Things were much worse. Chinese aren't poor or rich. Basically average. Do u not understand that different countries have higher and lower costs of living?

Cost of Living in China: prices in 544 cities compared

The average cost of living in China is $656, which is 1.63 times less expensive than the world's average. Compare cost of living by city. China ranked 153rd out of 197 countries by cost of living and 82nd best country to live in.

livingcost.org

116th out 197. That means it isn't expensive for the average Chinese, despite the higher yearly income of 64th

Everything is manufactured inside the country, so that decreases the costs immensely

 

[Deleted member 15468]

Before the 16th century most of the biggest inventions were from China and the near east

no race dominated the world as much as europeans for such a long timeframe

 

[Deleted member 13787]

What year is this map representing? I found an almost identical image on the internet and the values for some of the countries are different.

Seems like an outdated publishing. Its based on a database of IQ scores from different studies. This is what the newest map shows:

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Well compare it to even 40 years ago. Things were much worse. Chinese aren't poor or rich. Basically average. Do u not understand that different countries have higher and lower costs of living?

Cost of Living in China: prices in 544 cities compared

The average cost of living in China is $656, which is 1.63 times less expensive than the world's average. Compare cost of living by city. China ranked 153rd out of 197 countries by cost of living and 82nd best country to live in.

livingcost.org

116th out 197. That means it isn't expensive for the average Chinese, despite the higher yearly income of 64th

Everything is manufactured inside the country, so that decreases the costs immensely

Fucking cope

72nd place in PPP

List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Deleted member 25938]

Seems like an outdated publishing. Its based on a database of IQ scores from different studies. This is what the newest map shows:

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Funny that so many countries in Africa have no data now.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Funny that so many countries in Africa have no data now.

Prev data for them was found using estimates based on neighboring countries. It's how north korea's iq probably gets inflated because of their chinese neighbors.

 

[stevielake]

@TRUE_CEL
Ban this race baiting faggot please. Their sole purpose is to incite race wars.

 

[ORW2]

u

 

[incel194012940]

Well compare it to even 40 years ago. Things were much worse. Chinese aren't poor or rich. Basically average. Do u not understand that different countries have higher and lower costs of living?

Cost of Living in China: prices in 544 cities compared

The average cost of living in China is $656, which is 1.63 times less expensive than the world's average. Compare cost of living by city. China ranked 153rd out of 197 countries by cost of living and 82nd best country to live in.

livingcost.org

116th out 197. That means it isn't expensive for the average Chinese, despite the higher yearly income of 64th

Everything is manufactured inside the country, so that decreases the costs immensely

it's good life quality tbh. a lot of my relatives r farmers and factory workers. they have nicer houses and cars than i do in the USA, a farmer bought a 3 story mansion for like 5k.

the thing is that everything is "made in china quality"

they will die if they crash their car

you have to look at the tv from a straight angle or else you don't see anything

the food has crude industrial biproducts in it

You have to go to a place to rent a gaming pc because it's too expensive to play anything above mobile game quality

the houses are not going to last 100 years

 

[ORW2]

@cloUder
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women do have darker skin but that is before puberty

women in germany tan more so their skin is darker, that darker skin is not genetic

the same logic can be used for males from non-whiite countries though, women in non-white or non-feminst countries stay inside more, hence lighter skin.

 

[incel194012940]

Cause Taiwan was being ran by Abo tier islanders till East Asians moved their dumb ass and within 40 years made into a industrial rich country

not "aborigines". And nothing to brag about muh "civilization" "industrialization"



not that there's nothing wrong with aborigines, they are very kindhearted people and spiritually rich

 

[Yuhbwoynadia]

Fucking cope

72nd place in PPP

List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Quality of life/economics matters more than wage mi guy average Chinese man lives longer than the average American .....

China went thru multiple genocides with the CCP being by sanctioned by the western world and yuh tryna downplay how far they came
their alr taking off on Europe

 

[Yuhbwoynadia]

it's good life quality tbh. a lot of my relatives r farmers and factory workers. they have nicer houses and cars than i do in the USA, a farmer bought a 3 story mansion for like 5k.

the thing is that everything is "made in china quality"

they will die if they crash their car

you have to look at the tv from a straight angle or else you don't see anything

the food has crude industrial biproducts in it

You have to go to a place to rent a gaming pc because it's too expensive to play anything above mobile game quality

the houses are not going to last 100 years

The US has a car crash death rate of 14.3 and China is 15.09

I never understood about the China infrastructure is bad narrative when both the US and China both have similar death rates in that accidental category lol

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Quality of life/economics matters more than wage mi guy average Chinese man lives longer than the average American .....

China went thru multiple genocides with the CCP being by sanctioned by the western world and yuh tryna downplay how far they came
their alr taking off on Europe

Poor

 

[Deleted member 23391]

You need to take into account that White people had 15 more IQ points hundreds of years ago before industrialization. At one point, not too long ago even, Whites were far more intelligent than Asians - but this declined due to dysgenics. Northeast Asians are now slightly more intelligent than Whites. It seems somewhat intuitive when you look at the fluency and prose of the Victorian era compared to the retarded way people speak and write today, but here's some actual evidence to attest to that fact:

At Our Wits’ End: Why We’re Becoming Less Intelligent And What It Means For The Future : Edward Dutton, Michael Woodley : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

At Our Wits’ End: Why We’re Becoming Less Intelligent And What It Means For The Future

archive.org

TL;DR reaction time is reasonably correlated to IQ and Victorian era Britons had vastly faster reaction times which we expect to suggest a massive IQ gap. It's even worse when you take into account that most younger people grew up on gaming, which keeps your reaction times sharp.

Asians are now undergoing the same dysgenic pressures due to the fertility problem. For example, intelligent women becoming office drones and professionals that never have children and intelligent men become STEMcels slaving 12 hours a day at their engineering job for Samsung, Hitachi, TSMC, and Xiaomi.

 

[incel194012940]

The US has a car crash death rate of 14.3 and China is 15.09

I never understood about the China infrastructure is bad narrative when both the US and China both have similar death rates in that accidental category lol

I’m saying that the cars are physically shit quality (illegal to sell in other countries) and will stop running in 5 years not anything about total car deaths

less people in China use cars, there’s high speed rail ect so many things that could influence that (possibly calculated differently/frauded) statistic

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Quality of life/economics matters more than wage mi guy average Chinese man lives longer than the average American .....

China went thru multiple genocides with the CCP being by sanctioned by the western world and yuh tryna downplay how far they came
their alr taking off on Europe

Tf do you mean "lives longer" ?
avg american has the same lifespan as the avg chinese person

 

[Deleted member 27511]

in 1992 china had the same conomy as india:

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then they started to copy many things from whites like the economic system and many other things and became rich, before this also the chinese (also japan and korea) had lost some wars against whites because they had worse technology

let's start by differentiatiating the brain of whites and east asians, whites and east asians evolved in a very different way, east asians somehow evolved to have less affective empathy (and more cognitive empathy) than whites and whites have too much affective empathy:

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"Northwest Europeans and East Asians are similar in having high levels of empathy but differ in the relative importance of cognitive empathy versus affective empathy. Affective empathy is much more key to prosocial behavior among Northwest Europeans than among East Asians."
"When Siu and Shek (2005) studied empathy in a Chinese sample ranging from 18 to 29 years of age, they found that the participants made little distinction between cognitive empathy and affective (emotional) empathy. These two components seemed to be weakly differentiated from each other. The authors attributed this finding to "cultural differences" "Chinese people might not perceive the items from the two dimensions as too different in nature." The authors went on to note that "there are still debates concerning the boundaries of emotional and cognitive processes underlying empathy" and that "the causal relationships between cognitive and emotional processing underlying empathy are not simple or unidirectional."
In short, the Chinese participants could see things from another person's perspective and understand how that person felt. There is much less indication, however, that they involuntarily experienced the feelings of other people, especially feelings of distress. This is not to say they were incapable of such emotion transference, but rather that it seems limited in scope, perhaps being confined to family members and not extended to strangers."

Affective empathy: a double-edged sword

March in Brooklyn (?) (Wikicommons - Amanda Hirsch). Can we learn to feel another person's pain or joy? Twin studies indicate that affec...

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"- When viewing a person suffering physical pain, British subjects report greater negative affect than do East Asian subjects.
- When viewing a person suffering social pain, British subjects show greater empathic concern but lower empathic accuracy than do East Asian subjects.
- British subjects report greater empathic concern, but lower empathic accuracy than do Chinese subjects. Emotional expressivity predicts British but not Chinese empathic concern.
- Empathic concern explains differences between the two groups in donating, a measure of prosocial behavior.
- American subjects, more so than Japanese subjects, feel more affective empathy for one friend over another when the two friends are engaged in an intense disagreement."

Affective empathy: a double-edged sword

March in Brooklyn (?) (Wikicommons - Amanda Hirsch). Can we learn to feel another person's pain or joy? Twin studies indicate that affec...

evoandproud.blogspot.com

there are 2 types of empathy:

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cognitive empathy: the ability to imagine how another person feels without involuntarily making that feeling one's own
affective (emotional) empathy: you not only understand how others feel but also transfer those feelings to yourself, i.e., there is a greater tendency to feel the other person's pain.

For instance, sociopaths have a low affective empathy and high cognitive empathy. Wouldn't this eventually destroy social order in east asian societies?
east asians have managed to offset this by having this gene called DRD4, it basically lowers your individualism and increases your social conformity:

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Testing Japanese and European Canadian undergraduates (n = 784), we succeeded in replicating these previous findings: the Canadian students were more independent, whereas the Japanese students were more interdependent."

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/psysoc/advpub/0/advpub_2021-B014/_pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261761990_The_Dopamine_D4_Receptor_Gene_DRD4_Moderates_Cultural_Difference_in_Independent_Versus_Interdependent_Social_Orientation

how did whites evolve:
whites evolved to have high individualism, decreased conformism and high affective empathy to offset the last 2, if east asians had the same personality as whites they would be 100 times more technologically advanced than whites. There is a problem with whites, THEY HAVE TOO MUCH EMPATHY, that is why they let non-whites into their countries, gave rights to blacks and are cucks to fucking everyone, the whites in looksmax are not like this because they have high neuroticism like hitler (hitler had autism as i explain below) did due to having autism (high neuroticism makes you more racist and misogynist and is caused by having autism)
how to fix whites:

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whites were not always like this but the behavioral sink ruined them:
https://incels.is/threads/why-the-b...universe-25-mice-experiment-on-humans.458598/
if we want to fix whites we need to give whites high neuroticism to become like hitler:

why the nazis will take over the world, why hitler had autism like us and why 100 percent of children in the US will have autism by 2030

as you know all people on 4chan, incels.is and looksmax.org have autism because of our high neuroticism (high neuroticism is caused by autism)(i have autism), that is why we are so racist, misogynist and we are so different from normies, i can show you hundreds of posts of users of these...

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by the way the jews are not evil, they just have much more empathy than normal whites and more iq because of having more individualism and less conformism

my theory on Elliot Rodger:
https://incels.is/threads/why-hapa-...tive-empathy-explained-using-an-study.461116/

@looksmaxxed

This is a cope East Asians developed civilizations before majority of Europe

 

[thecel]

they don't have higher iq. only taiwan and japan are comparable to whites and they have contributed somewhat in technology development, semiconductors, electronics, etc. most of china is 80 iq just like any other shithole 3rd world country with a giant population but garbage output. it's also worth noting that they have issues with sentience, it might be that they do not have much creativity and volition as a result of evolving from ants

Cope. The average American is literally too stupid to pass China’s standard college entrance exam (GaoKao).