Why high volume calisthenics is better than weight lifting

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Most people who get a good physique doing weights have good genetics or take steroids over a long period of times. Low rep calisthenics are far superior to high rep barbell exercises such as starting strength. These programs are for mentally ill fat power lifters who are really just obese. I have yet to see someone who has done starting strength achieve anything. All these programs are garbage.

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When you go to the gym you see everyone putting on straps, chalk etc. These people are in pain from lifting heavy weights and destroying their joints. Calisthenics builds the joints along with the muscles leading to far, far less injury.

This is why these exercises are worthless regardless of what program you do

Bench press: Makes your lower chest larger and more feminine. Tell me

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Would you rather have a chest like this power lifter?


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Or a masculine chest like this gymnast. Gymnasts do high volume calisthenics and look far superior to their gym counterparts.

Squat: The weighted squat is the worse thing you could do for your joints. You are going to just end up damaging your legs from all the weight you lift and also your glutes and thigh size will increase making you look worse than ever before. It will make you look like a woman. High rep bodyweight squats will give you more mobility and make you look more defined than weighted squats and even then it should be done in moderation because aesthetic wise the upper body is the most important. Medium weight high rep squats would be ok but nobody does medium weight as they want to ruin their joints and bodyweight squats will still be better for conditioning. 10 squats of 75kg is insignificant compared to 100 body weight squats conditioning wise. Most people who do the squat for low reps don't even do the intensity therefore they don't build as much definition as body weight squats at high reps.

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If you see the muscle activation of the squat it makes you look more feminine. It makes your thighs, butt etc bigger. In reality squats are for women to increase butt size while being lean not for men. And don't be fooled that squats build abs, no squats have ever built abs thats a powerlifting cope. Abs need to be build by doing ab workouts not squats. In reality the squat actually widens your abdominal muscles not make them more defined and stick out. The weighted squat is a joke.

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The average squatting dip shit with no upper body and a big butt. He looks stupid and he is for falling for barbell programs.

The Deadlift: It could be argued that this builds muscle (at the expense of fucking up your back muscles for life) but it also widens your torso more than squats making your waist wide.

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I understand he has wide bones but its also to do with the fact that he is deadlifting. He has added muscle to his hips making him look more feminine. His chest is also super feminine compared to Calisthenics athletes who train high reps.

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Chris Heria looks far superior to the gymcel and has better proportions.

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Deadlifts won't work the upper body muscles and you will end up looking more feminine with wider hips and torso removing the lean v taper look and making you look like shit. No girl wants a bloated power lifter, or anyone who touches barbells for the matter. It looks very unnatural to have large hips, glutes but small upper body. Do deadlifts if you hate yourself not if you want to look good.

Now lets compare the Calisthenics counter parts

The push up: One of the most widely used practical exercises there are. You can do many forms that make your chest look great. At high reps the push ups is far superior to the bench press any day of the week.

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This guy did lots of push ups in different variations and got a great chest. He has a body any girl would love and looks great. Imagine looking like this on the beach. Many mentally ill faggots will say "but he is not big", yet he is bigger than most gym goers and looks much better. Gym goers are just "fat" which makes them look bigger than they actually are. With calisthenics you cannot be fat otherwise your form will suffer. Also he has abs from ab routines. NOT EVERYONE HAS ABS UNDERNEATH THEIR BELLYFAT, THIS IS A POWERLIFTER COPE. "Just lose fat bro, everyone has abs bro". NO, you HAVE to do an ab routine for abs. Why do power lifters etc say this bs? Its because they are lazy and just want to do low rep high weight barbell training that will fuck up their joints. They are too lazy and fat for ab routines. Ab routines are the most important exercises do to women liking abs the most.

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Just because you are low body fat does NOT mean you will see much ab definition. This cope needs to stop. It is very dishonest. If you are not obese like a powerlifter or gymgoer and don't have great abs you need to do an ab routine. Chris Heria has great videos online for this.

The push up work your arms, chest and shoulders to a lesser degree. This makes you look great. You will look athletic if you do lots of push ups compared to a mentally ill faggot benching his own body weight just for a feminine chest.

The pullup/chinup: The best exercise for lats. These will give you a vtaper and good arms. Wish the pushup and pullup exercises and variations you will look much better than any gym goer as your focus will be on the upper body instead of the lower body. These will build your lats much better than a lat pulldown or deadlift.

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Autstin Dunham and many more have built an amazing back from doing pull ups and his arms are also great. Although I disagree with his low rep approach to calisthenics as most people don't train with the right intensity for it he still looks great. No gym goer will look like this without roiding.

Abs: Abs need constant stimulus to grow. Ab ab routine will make your abs burn. Don't use an ab roller as they thicken your abdominal muscles rather use your bodyweight to make your abs pop out and look great. I have showed examples here already but if you want to research it just look at calisthenics athletes abs vs barbell lifters abs. Sure the top barbell lifters may have abs when cutting for 3-6 months a year if they do steroids and religiously destroy their joints. But the average calisthenics person looks much better than the average bulked lifter ab wise. Trust me.


Conclusion: I have NEVER seen a success story from starting strength. I tried heavy barbell exercises in my teens and it just fucked up my joints (luckily not permanently). Bodyweight exercises have been far superior than heavy barbell exercises and they make you look better proportionally regardless of how much muscle you build. You can build all the muscle you want in the world with barbell exercises (if you can as a natural) but you will always look like trash and need to "bulk" to make it look like you have muscles when its actually just fat". Many mentally ill barbell users will swear by their methods and its become cult like but they can't really deny that calisthenics is better. So why you ask me is calisthenics not more popular? Its because people are lazy and want to do low reps. This never builds muscle. People want an easy way out. Ignore reddits soy boy routine called "recommended routine", that's just as bad as weighted exercises at building muscle as it doesn't have enough volume. Doing 3x12 pushups is not enough to build shit. That routine is garbage and nobody looks any better on it. The reason people think their routine works is because they have been on it for a year when they could have gotten those results in months. 4 months of high volume calisthenics will make you look better than the vast majority of the population. Sadly high volume calisthenics will never fully catch on as people want an easy way out but its the only way to really look good.



Take a look at this guy he knows whats up and looks great with high volume calisthenics. The reason he is not famous is because he speaks the truth and the average normie doesn't want to put in the effort of doing work for anything.

I hope this thread inspires you to do high volume calisthenics :)
 
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cope.plenty of aesthetic mfs with good geneticsn who weightlift and look good
edit : even those who run such programs which include the big 5 with less weight and more reps
 
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cope.plenty of aesthetic mfs with good geneticsn who weightlift and look good
For every roider fucking up their health there are 10 other people who look like trash. In my gym most people looked terrible. The only people who can look good with weights are people with good genetics or people who do very high bodybuilding reps and even then they will not look as good as calisthenic athletes. There is a reason the gym is a big industry and its to fool people into lifting weights like mentally ill faggots.
 
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welcome back bro
 
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For every roider fucking up their health there are 10 other people who look like trash. In my gym most people looked terrible. The only people who can look good with weights are people with good genetics or people who do very high bodybuilding reps and even then they will not look as good as calisthenic athletes. There is a reason the gym is a big industry and its to fool people into lifting weights like mentally ill faggots.
that is because most people either got garbage genetics or garbage drive and often times do not even care to bench press and overload or do weighted pullups,chinups,dips etc
 
Doing calisthenics is better than nothing. If you enjoy doing calisthenics, good for you. However, lifting =/= starting strength. A lot of people who do SS don't care about aesthetics. They care about their 1 rep maxes. They don't mind being bloated. You don't really have to do squats if you don't want to. Overhead press, bench press (maybe with dumbbells or incline), bicep curl, and lateral pulldown are great for starting to build a better-looking body. Ad some abs exercise if you want. Progression is easy with weights: just add more weights.
 
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Doing calisthenics is better than nothing. If you enjoy doing calisthenics, good for you. However, lifting =/= starting strength. A lot of people who do SS don't care about aesthetics. They care about their 1 rep maxes. They don't mind being bloated. You don't really have to do squats if you don't want to. Overhead press, bench press (maybe with dumbbells or incline), bicep curl, and lateral pulldown are great for starting to build a better-looking body. Ad some abs exercise if you want. Progression is easy with weights: just add more weights.
Tbh I forgot to mention OHP as the only viable exercise but even then fitness wise calisthenics mogs.
 
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Everyone is on the steroids in the fitness industry calisthenics or weight lifting doesn't matter
 
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Everyone is on the steroids in the fitness industry calisthenics or weight lifting doesn't matter
Which is why you need to focus on calithenics to get a aesthetic, lean look.
 
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Which is why you need to focus on calithenics to get a aesthetic, lean look.
You can look lean with weight lifting too, doesn't matter. Calisthenics will just give you a reason to stay lean since if you put too much weight on you will be unable to perform exercises
 
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You can look lean with weight lifting too, doesn't matter. Calisthenics will just give you a reason to stay lean since if you put too much weight on you will be unable to perform exercises
Just develop the lower body bro

You want to know why weightlifters have an obsession with legs?

Its because their upper bodys suck
 
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Heria has good genetics, Leader has shit genetics and he choose a really shitty pics, he looks better in other pics (still horrible genetics)
Training obliques is what you should actually do if you have comically wide hips, at least be wide everything.
 
Just develop the lower body bro

You want to know why weightlifters have an obsession with legs?

Its because their upper bodys suck
Or because they want a balanced body + with more muscles you can eat more since muscles require calories and legs have some of the biggest muscles in the body
 
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dn rd but for targeted muscle hypertrophy the gym will mog any other option out there. if it didn't bodybuilders would by doing muscle ups instead to get huge
 
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And don't be fooled that squats build abs, no squats have ever built abs thats a powerlifting cope. Abs need to be build by doing ab workouts not squats. In reality the squat actually widens your abdominal muscles
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dn rd but for targeted muscle hypertrophy the gym will mog any other option out there. if it didn't bodybuilders would by doing muscle ups instead to get huge
They are all on roids. There has never been a case of anyone natural looking good with heavy barbell exercises.
 
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hi @rightfulcel
 
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There has never been a case of anyone natural looking good with heavy barbell exercises
possibly one of the most unbased things i've seen on this website
 
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Calisthenics is a cope. You gotta be a total freak with no responsibilites to build a body any impressive from calisthenics alone. Meanwhile gymcel spends 4 hours a week in a gym and mogs you both appearance- and strength-wise.
 
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possibly one of the most unbased things i've seen on this website
But there hasn't. Most people who look good in gyms are teens who built their base with pushups and pullups as kids but then they start to bloat as that wares off.
Calisthenics is a cope. You gotta be a total freak with no responsibilites to build a body any impressive from calisthenics alone. Meanwhile gymcel spends 4 hours a week in a gym and mogs you both appearance- and strength-wise.
The average low volume gymgoer looks like trash and bulky stop coping.
 
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But there hasn't. Most people who look good in gyms are teens who built their base with pushups and pullups as kids but then they start to bloat as that wares off.

The average low volume gymgoer looks like trash and bulky stop coping.
its because most gymcels are low iq as fuck, they are too high bf to see the fruits of their labours and look bloated

a ripped gymcel at low bf mogs someone who does calisthenics

calisthenics look better on pager because of the aerobic nature of the exerices which is why they are all low bf in calistehnics
 
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Are you retarded? You cherrypicked pics of people with good genetics and compared them to subhumans
Why didnt you use david laid as an example of bench, squat or deadlift?
 
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Are you retarded? You cherrypicked pics of people with good genetics and compared them to subhumans
Why didnt you use david laid as an example of bench, squat or deadlift?
He is on roids
 
The average low volume gymgoer looks like trash and bulky stop coping.
Let's talk the average low volume calisthenicscel then. Looks like total shit except for not being fat, has muscle definition of a high-T male who hasn't worked out in his life. Nobody can appreciate his leanness and abs when he's wearing any clothes at all, nobody sees him as a big man in comparison to strangers. All he has is some strength and endurance.

This whole calithenics thing is full of shit. I respect the idea behind it and tried it myself in moderation, but diving in it for looks is beyond stupid unless you're very dedicated and have plenty of free time.
 
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Are you retarded? You cherrypicked pics of people with good genetics and compared them to subhumans
Why didnt you use david laid as an example of bench, squat or deadlift?
@rightfulcel heres david laid natural before he geared up
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to gain the physique on the right would take forever with calisthenics, he obviously didnt do any calisthenics to get that physique. gym is just faster for hypertrophy, no argument about that
 
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Let's talk the average low volume calisthenicscel then. Looks like total shit except for not being fat, has muscle definition of a high-T male who hasn't worked out in his life. Nobody can appreciate his leanness and abs when he's wearing any clothes at all, nobody sees him as a big man in comparison to strangers. All he has is some strength and endurance.

This whole calithenics thing is full of shit. I respect the idea behind it and tried it myself in moderation, but diving in it for looks is beyond stupid unless you're very dedicated and have plenty of free time.
Low volume calithenics is worthless, I will give you that.
 
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He is on roids
In you post you made an assumption that weightlifting can creates a worse looking physique - which is fucking stupid.
How your physique looks is all about genetics + muscles mass + bodyfat%
 
In you post you made an assumption that weightlifting can creates a worse looking physique - which is fucking stupid.
How your physique looks is all about genetics + muscles mass + bodyfat%
Working out the hips, glutes etc will eventually lead to the bones getting thicker there due to growth hormone released in those areas for the muscle to be built leading to you looking feminine forever.
 
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lol gym mogs especially for legs even though I am calisthenicscel. Although calisthenics is very effective especially when doing weighted calisthenics.
 
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Just be lean theory. Srs. People that do calisthenics are generally lean which makes their physiques look good while lots of strength oriented people arent as lean because they care about their lifts.. However, if they were to drop their ego and get lean many of them would have good physiques aswell. People juice in calisthenics aswell, and in terms of gymnast many arent even that impressive in terms of physique + they are usually really short. You also have to consider the possiblity of getting injured in calisthenics which will definitly ruin your "gains". There are so many arguments that can be made but calishtenics > weight lifting is retarded. You can do some calisthenics movements at the side of your regular compound movements, I do.
 
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Just be lean theory. Srs. People that do calisthenics are generally lean which makes their physiques look good while lots of strength oriented people arent as lean because they care about their lifts.. However, if they were to drop their ego and get lean many of them would have good physiques aswell. People juice in calisthenics aswell, and in terms of gymnast many arent even that impressive in terms of physique + they are usually really short. You also have to consider the possiblity of getting injured in calisthenics which will definitly ruin your "gains". There are so many arguments that can be made but calishtenics > weight lifting is retarded. You can do some calisthenics movements at the side of your regular compound movements, I do.
Low volume calisthenics and "skill moves" will ruin joints. Normal high volume calisthenics won't.
 
Low volume calisthenics and "skill moves" will ruin joints. Normal high volume calisthenics won't.
Not only about joints. You are very prone to overuse injuries aswell as muscle tears.
 
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Working out the hips, glutes etc will eventually lead to the bones getting thicker there due to growth hormone released in those areas for the muscle to be built leading to you looking feminine forever.
JFL if you think it will ever be more than a millimeter
 
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Read all of it. Will continue my calisthenics routine again after I've recovered from my hair transplant.
 
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brb injecting 500mg a week and doing 1000 push ups a day
 
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baffles me how you can have so, so little knowledge about the subject and make such a high effort gigapost about it
i guess this is ironic, but on the off chance that it's not
you're a smoothbrain mouthbreather rat
how do you even manage to breathe with an iq this low
 
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baffles me how you can have so, so little knowledge about the subject and make such a high effort gigapost about it
i guess this is ironic, but on the off chance that it's not
you're a smoothbrain mouthbreather rat
how do you even manage to breathe with an iq this low
You don't even have to read this thread. Women like men with abs and a good upper body not a wide waist created by heavy barbell exercises. I don't understand what is so low iq about that. Calisthenics will make you look MUCH better than the average gymrat. Its not even debatable.
 
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Most people who present images of gymnast with great physiqes probably lifts wheights anyways so no point really proven there.

If you want an aesthetic chest you want to emphasize upper chest alot, which push ups arent gonna do for you.

How exactly are you gonna build sick side delts by not lifing wheights or using machines? Side delts most important for aesthetics.
 
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Most people who present images of gymnast with great physiqes probably lifts wheights anyways so no point really proven there.

If you want an aesthetic chest you want to emphasize upper chest alot, which push ups arent gonna do for you.

How exactly are you gonna build sick side delts by not lifing wheights or using machines? Side delts most important for aesthetics.
Tbh calisthenics don't target delts well. But you can get a pair of dumbbells to target these areas. Push ups will absolutely give you a good chest as long as you progress with it and without ruining your joints. Its the reason the military uses bodyweight exercises as its primary focus fitness wise. Most gym goers are out of shape and when they lose all their fat they look like crap. Take the average gymcel and put them in a gymnasium and they will look like trash. Gymnasts are ripped because of high volume not the gym.
 
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what about high volume dumbell for hypertrophy?
 
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I fucked up my elbow and shoulder joints doing too many push ups
 
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what about high volume dumbell for hypertrophy?
They are great and people may accuse you on being on roids from your arms being huge. Check out Serge Nubret. He did very high volume and has one of the best physiques of all time. Yes he did roids but his high volume medium-low weight allowed him to get very aesthetic. If I am being honest high volume dumbell trainings may actually be better than calithenics for arms. Tbh I should have aimed this thread towards powerlifting etc rather than just "gym exercises".
 
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i have seen a wall of text being so shitty and low iq jfl
 
The power lifter looks like a fat ogre because he eats like 9000cals a day. Just lift moderately and lean out. Lifting is better then calisthenics if your looking to maximise gains. Easier to gain with lifting.
 
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i have seen a wall of text being so shitty and low iq jfl
I will sum it up for you

Train upper body, abs with bodyweight exercises because women like that and not powerlifting exercises that train your glutes, thighs and thicken your torso.

It will also save your joints

Thats basically it
The power lifter looks like a fat ogre because he eats like 9000cals a day. Just lift moderately and lean out. Lifting is better then calisthenics if your looking to maximise gains. Easier to gain with lifting.
Thats debatable. Doing low rep high weight exercises 3 times a week won't do shit. The average person needs roids to look good. I personally think calisthenics are far superior and up to date. Who looks better? Chad who does push ups and pull ups or some mentally ill nerd outcast trying to lift more in the gym after school?
 
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I will sum it up for you

Train upper body, abs with bodyweight exercises because women like that and not powerlifting exercises that train your glutes, thighs and thicken your torso.

It will also save your joints

Thats basically it

Thats debatable. Doing low rep high weight exercises 3 times a week won't do shit. The average person needs roids to look good. I personally think calisthenics are far superior and up to date. Who looks better? Chad who does push ups and pull ups or some mentally ill nerd outcast trying to lift more in the gym after school?
I find that there’s skinnier people who tend to do callisthenics rather then lifting. I believe that you are selectively biased and have chosen the most ripped big guy that is doing calisthenics. If you compare the average person difference between Cali and gym. Gym would trump Cali in gains on average.
tbh it really just depends what you want to look like. Both forms of physical activity will yield different results. Both work.
 
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I find that there’s skinnier people who tend to do callisthenics rather then lifting. I believe that you are selectively biased and have chosen the most ripped big guy that is doing calisthenics. If you compare the average person difference between Cali and gym. Gym would trump Cali in gains on average.
tbh it really just depends what you want to look like. Both forms of physical activity will yield different results. Both work.
Getting bigger is just about volume. Lifting shouldn't be about "getting bigger" anyway rather getting better proportions, abs etc.
 
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Another easily fooled poor little Zoomer than has bought into the illusion that these "Fitness YouTubers" who promote calisthenics don't do functional strength training use weights. Even gymnasts do.

You're a clown for falling victim to the meme and the temptation to just want to FEEL and BECOME cool by swinging from bar to bar like a human chimpanzee is real.

 
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