Why I think Christianity is legit

[CloudyCuck]

then i’ll start researching orthodoxy christianity you convinced me to do that

You can dm me if you have any more questions too

 

[t3000]

This is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.

The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.

Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)

1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:

• Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
• The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".

2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:

• The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
• Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
• God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
  

3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.

Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.

Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.

Christianity or Islam?

- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8

Christianity or Buddhism?

- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.

Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:

The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.

So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.

Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?

- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.

I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.

In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.

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Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:

- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.

- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo

Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.

Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"

(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)

In another quote, He says:

"My kingdom is not of this world"

(John 18:36)

Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.

- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’

This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.

Some Bible verses for you:

“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:

Think about it pal. Christians endured:

Torture

Slavery

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.

Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.



Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.

Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.

So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.

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St Michael mogging Lucifer. Brutally over for Satancels

Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.

Tagging Christiancels. Tell me if I missed something:
@NatureEnjoyer_ @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Jesus is King Amen. @Jesus_ist_König

facts bro all the iqlets typing "if wouldnt be subhumna if God was real" are just fucking retarded and havent read the bible to understand that bad things didnt happen because of God

 

[t3000]

then i’ll start researching orthodoxy christianity you convinced me to do that

W

 

[t3000]

You can dm me if you have any more questions too

good work nigga

 

[CloudyCuck]

facts bro all the iqlets typing "if wouldnt be subhumna if God was real" are just fucking retarded and havent read the bible to understand that bad things didnt happen because of God

Love to hear it. What denomination are you?

 

[t3000]

Love to hear it. What denomination are you?

orthodox

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Nigga thinks he's @Jatt

People like OP are the reason why I don’t fault guys like you for being pagans. How can I when devils like this mascarade as Christian’s. Irony is they worship an Jewish brown man which they’d despise based solely of his race and ethnicity if they met him

 

[CloudyCuck]

People like OP are the reason why I don’t fault guys like you for being pagans. How can I when devils like this mascarade as Christian’s. Irony is they worship an Jewish brown man which they’d despise based solely of his race and ethnicity if they met him

that’s because you’re a low iq monkey that puts your we wuzzery over your religion. I know Jesus was brown, retard JFL. I just don’t like niggers like you that whine about whitey while contributing nothing to society. Thanks for the bump anyway

I don’t hate you because you’re black. I just don’t want you near me because you’re a useless dumb piece of shit

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

that’s because you’re a low iq monkey that puts your we wuzzery over your religion. I know Jesus was brown, retard JFL. I just don’t like niggers like you that whine about whitey while contributing nothing to society. Thanks for the bump anyway

I don’t hate you because you’re black. I just don’t want you near me because you’re a useless dumb piece of shit

You’re welcome for the bump.

May god heal your soul which is full of hatred to other people

 

[CloudyCuck]

You’re welcome for the bump.

May god heal your soul which is full of hatred to other people

You’re fake asf. Still lying now as you were lying in lookism. I’ve seen you side with muslims over Christians just because the Christians were white. You just want to blame whitey for your own shortcomings, don’t pretend you give a shit about the religion.

And now you’re using my religion to push your nigger agenda. I’ve seen many like you.

And change your avi, it’s disrespectful to Great Schemas

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

This is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.

The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.

Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)

1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:

• Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
• The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".

2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:

• The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
• Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
• God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
  

3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.

Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.

Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.

Christianity or Islam?

- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8

Christianity or Buddhism?

- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.

Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:

The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.

So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.

Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?

- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.

I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.

In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.

View attachment 4695076


Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:

- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.

- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo

Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.

Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"

(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)

In another quote, He says:

"My kingdom is not of this world"

(John 18:36)

Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.

- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’

This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.

Some Bible verses for you:

“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:

Think about it pal. Christians endured:

Torture

Slavery

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.

Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.



Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.

Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.

So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.

View attachment 4695296
St Michael mogging Lucifer. Brutally over for Satancels

Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.

Tagging Christiancels. Tell me if I missed something:
@NatureEnjoyer_ @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Jesus is King Amen. @Jesus_ist_König

 

[Centurion_Hunter]

This is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.

The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.

Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)

1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:

• Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
• The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".

2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:

• The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
• Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
• God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
  

3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.

Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.

Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.

Christianity or Islam?

- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8

Christianity or Buddhism?

- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.

Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:

The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.

So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.

Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?

- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.

I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.

In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.

View attachment 4695076


Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:

- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.

- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo

Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.

Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"

(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)

In another quote, He says:

"My kingdom is not of this world"

(John 18:36)

Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.

- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’

This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.

Some Bible verses for you:

“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:

Think about it pal. Christians endured:

Torture

Slavery

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.

Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.



Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.

Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.

So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.

View attachment 4695296
St Michael mogging Lucifer. Brutally over for Satancels

Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.

Tagging Christiancels. Tell me if I missed something:
@NatureEnjoyer_ @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Jesus is King Amen. @Jesus_ist_König

Agreed

 

[iblamexyz]

Mirin attention span if you read it all

DNR tbh my friend

but I know it's fire

 

[karmacitathugmaxx]

cant name a single monotheist religion which doesn't suffer from at least one of the major logistic downfalls
1. too homophobic
2. not racist enough

therefore i have to conclude that they must be all cope
'nah my 2000 year old book is for sure the REAL one bro, god really said ts' stfu the creator got potentially millions of life-sustaining planets to deal with y'all really not special

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

You’re fake asf. Still lying now as you were lying in lookism. I’ve seen you side with muslims over Christians just because the Christians were white. You just want to blame whitey for your own shortcomings, don’t pretend you give a shit about the religion.

And now you’re using my religion to push your nigger agenda. I’ve seen many like you.

And change your avi, it’s disrespectful to Great Schemas

I side with Muslims over white suprmeacists I play both sides and tbh you guys are a bigger threat to me so yeah ofc ill side with the Muslims over you faggots I’ll deal with the Mohammedens when the times. For. Ow your public enemy number 1 and I’ll tray u as such


Your religion?

Dude you’re a white supremacist your not Christian be default your a larper

My avi is fine I don’t listen to pagans larping as Christian’s you melanin deficient ape this is why gods wiping yall out with immigration and mixing

 

[Saint Casanova]

You’re not a Christian due to your abhorrent beliefs around other humans. Have some shame

 

[CloudyCuck]

I side with Muslims over white suprmeacists I play both sides and tbh you guys are a bigger threat to me so yeah ofc ill side with the Muslims over you faggots I’ll deal with the Mohammedens when the times. For. Ow your public enemy number 1 and I’ll tray u as such


Your religion?

Dude you’re a white supremacist your not Christian be default your a larper

You’re a black supremacist. I’m glad you admit it. That’s why I’ll never take you seriously. It’s all about politics for you

At least you admit it’s all about race for you. You don’t want to be held accountable so you think whitey hates you because you’re dark skinned, but really it’s because you’re a hypocritical whiney lying ape.

Go put your nigger skin over religion if you want but at least be honest about it and don’t larp like you gaf about the faith. Monkey

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

You’re a black supremacist. I’m glad you admit it. That’s why I’ll never take you seriously. It’s all about politics for you

At least you admit it’s all about race for you. You don’t want to be held accountable so you think whitey hates you because you’re dark skinned, but really it’s because you’re a hypocritical whiney lying ape.

Go put your nigger skin over religion if you want but at least be honest about it and don’t larp like you gaf about the faith. Monkey

Projection

Im not a black supremacist im a princeluenleoncur supremacist, im better than you. Sure blacks may be a little better than non blacks cos they are CLOSER to me but honestly thats where it ends. Hell I have fucked your women rage ones ofc no fat ugly ones only pretty white women get my cock I’m purifying them of their cavebeast syndrome

So my point still remains. Your my bitch my lesser my inferior in every single fucking way

It’s not about race per see it’s about pattern recognition and reality. Whites control the world, whites kill and plunder the world == whites are to be kept at a distance and resisted to prevent them from enslaving everybody which is why the war in the Middle East is brewing it’s white supremacisrs trying to colonise the east and the biggest barrier there is Islam that religion is a massive bulwark against you an necessary evil if you will and I’ll back the Mohammedens against Satanists like you

 

[SS 109]

You sound upset

 

[CloudyCuck]

Projection

Im not a black supremacist im a princeluenleoncur supremacist, im better than you. Sure blacks may be a little better than non blacks cos they are CLOSER to me but honestly thats where it ends. Hell I have fucked your women rage ones ofc no fat ugly ones only pretty white women get my cock I’m purifying them of their cavebeast syndrome

So my point still remains. Your my bitch my lesser my inferior in every single fucking way

It’s not about race per see it’s about pattern recognition and reality. Whites control the world, whites kill and plunder the world == whites are to be kept at a distance and resisted to prevent them from enslaving everybody which is why the war in the Middle East is brewing it’s white supremacisrs trying to colonise the east and the biggest barrier there is Islam that religion is a massive bulwark against you an necessary evil if you will and I’ll back the Mohammedens against Satanists like you

I disagree but I don’t want to argue anymore. I forgive you and apologise and hope you can forgive me too. I’m gonna take you off ignore also

 

[Peubert]

This is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.

The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.

Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)

1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:

• Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
• The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".

2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:

• The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
• Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
• God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
  

3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.

Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.

Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.

Christianity or Islam?

- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8

Christianity or Buddhism?

- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.

Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:

The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.

So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.

Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?

- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.

I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.

In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.

View attachment 4695076


Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:

- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.

- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo

Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.

Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"

(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)

In another quote, He says:

"My kingdom is not of this world"

(John 18:36)

Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.

- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’

This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.

Some Bible verses for you:

“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:

Think about it pal. Christians endured:

Torture

Slavery

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.

Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.



Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.

Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.

So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.

View attachment 4695296
St Michael mogging Lucifer. Brutally over for Satancels

Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.

Tagging Christiancels. Tell me if I missed something:
@NatureEnjoyer_ @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Jesus is King Amen. @Jesus_ist_König

beautifull thread

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I disagree but I don’t want to argue anymore. I forgive you and apologise and hope you can forgive me too. I’m gonna take you off ignore also

Wow this is great character development…. Well it’s the time of forgiveness this is what lent starts off with forgiveness Sunday

So yes I also apologise brother may we be buddies for now on AMEEEN

 

[CloudyCuck]

Wow this is great character development…. Well it’s the time of forgiveness this is what lent starts off with forgiveness Sunday

So yes I also apologise brother may we be buddies for now on AMEEEN

I think we are both just passionate about helping our people and cultures. Let’s be chill and not do any more race wars. We are one in Christ. I’ll dm you to talk theology sometime

 

[Whiteboard7]

This is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.

The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.

Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)

1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:

• Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
• The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".

2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:

• The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
• Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
• God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
  

3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.

Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.

Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.

Christianity or Islam?

- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8

Christianity or Buddhism?

- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.

Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:

The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.

So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.

Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?

- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.

I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.

In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.

View attachment 4695076


Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:

- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.

- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo

Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.

Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"

(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)

In another quote, He says:

"My kingdom is not of this world"

(John 18:36)

Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.

- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’

This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.

Some Bible verses for you:

“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:

Think about it pal. Christians endured:

Torture

Slavery

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.

Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.



Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.

Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.

So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.

View attachment 4695296
St Michael mogging Lucifer. Brutally over for Satancels

Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.

Tagging Christiancels. Tell me if I missed something:
@NatureEnjoyer_ @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Jesus is King Amen. @Jesus_ist_König

Good thread bhai need to bookmark

 

[lahari]

The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.

Your argument shatters in the sole first line alone.

You, compared to the universe, are alike to a grain of sand in the desert, if not smaller than that

To think that you can even COMPREHEND the universe and the laws that it follows an extremely close-minded assumption

Also nice ai, being unable to comprehend or elaborate on your theological beliefs on your own is very telling

 

[CloudyCuck]

Your argument shatters in the sole first line alone.

You, compared to the universe, are alike to a grain of sand in the desert, if not smaller than that

To think that you can even COMPREHEND the universe and the laws that it follows an extremely close-minded assumption

Also nice ai, being unable to comprehend or elaborate on your theological beliefs on your own is very telling

I’m ready to hear your counterpoint

 

[Kayra139]

islam mogs

 

[False Transvestite]

Ah, of course you're a retarded Christcuck. That's why you have nearly 3000 posts in a month you pathetic gimp.

 

[lahari]

I’m ready to hear your counterpoint

A counterpoint does not have to be an entire separate worldview, even though I already implied one

If you want it worded better

Your premise assumed a false dilemma the question isn’t limited to atheism or theism being correct
Agnosticism rejects the assumption that humans can definitively determine the existence or nature of a deity

 

[CloudyCuck]

A counterpoint does not have to be an entire separate worldview, even though I already implied one

If you want it worded better

Your premise assumed a false dilemma the question isn’t limited to atheism or theism being correct
Agnosticism rejects the assumption that humans can definitively determine the existence or nature of a deity

Yeah but it’sa boring and cowardly take. Refusing to commit to either. Like a faggot pondering if they should slay a man or a woman today

 

[lahari]

Yeah but it’sa boring and cowardly take. Refusing to commit to either. Like a faggot pondering if they should slay a man or a woman today

Life isn’t exactly rainbows and sunshine for things to always be fun and exciting, accepting what as a you as a human are capable of (and are meant to be capable of) should be satisfactory not boring, this is about accuracy

Claiming humans can definitively know the existence of a deity is the cowardly position. It assumes knowledge we don’t have. Rejecting that assumption is the more logically honest stance

The only reason faggots ponder which sexuality to fuck is because society encourages that behavior now and that analogy is bullshit lmfao

 

[CloudyCuck]

Life isn’t exactly rainbows and sunshine for things to always be fun and exciting, accepting what as a you as a human are capable of (and are meant to be capable of) should be satisfactory not boring, this is about accuracy

Claiming humans can definitively know the existence of a deity is the cowardly position. It assumes knowledge we don’t have. Rejecting that assumption is the more logically honest stance

The only reason faggots ponder which sexuality to fuck is because society encourages that behavior now and that analogy is bullshit lmfao

I know for sure because I have prayed for thinks which should have been impossible and yet they happened. Of course, if you close your mind to the possibility, nothing will convince you.

 

[lahari]

I know for sure because I have prayed for thinks which should have been impossible and yet they happened. Of course, if you close your mind to the possibility, nothing will convince you.

Holy fuck how does one get this anecdotal and close minded

Same story can be told amongst Muslims Jews Hindus even gamblers do you hear yourself

Anecdotal experiences don’t prove a universal law. Just because something seems to happen after a prayer doesn’t mean the prayer caused it. Believing that it proves a deity exists is AGAIN an assumption not evidence

If praying were a reliable test for divine intervention we’d see consistent results across millions of people praying for the same impossible things but we don’t

And saying god selectively decides who he satisfies and when he does it is circular and unfalsifiable

 

[CloudyCuck]

Holy fuck how does one get this anecdotal and close minded

Same story can be told amongst Muslims Jews Hindus even gamblers do you hear yourself

Anecdotal experiences don’t prove a universal law. Just because something seems to happen after a prayer doesn’t mean the prayer caused it. Believing that it proves a deity exists is AGAIN an assumption not evidence

If praying were a reliable test for divine intervention we’d see consistent results across millions of people praying for the same impossible things but we don’t

And saying god selectively decides who he satisfies and when he does it is circular and unfalsifiable

 

[lahari]

You have made 2.5k posts in under a month that’s you faggot

 

[CloudyCuck]

You have made 2.5k posts in under a month that’s you faggot

JFL angry cuck.

 

[Ted Bundy]

You can dm me if you have any more questions too

fellow orthodox christian how are you doing

 

[CloudyCuck]

fellow orthodox christian how are you doing

Based if not trolling

 

[lahari]

JFL angry cuck.

Saying what’s there

 

[Ted Bundy]

Based if not trolling

not trolling im ex protestant

 

[CloudyCuck]

not trolling im ex protestant

Me too my parents were protestant. I wasn’t into it tho

 

[polonaecel]

1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:

• Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
• The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".

is this just the modal ontological argument?

 

[CloudyCuck]

is this just the modal ontological argument?

Against atheism? No it’s the transcendental argument G. I’ll read about the modal ontological now

 

[polonaecel]

Against atheism? No it’s the transcendental argument G. I’ll read about the modal ontological now

modal ontological is that the possibility of a god implies his existence

 

[CloudyCuck]

modal ontological is that the possibility of a god implies his existence

I’ll have to research and get back to you. What denom are you btw

 

[sdram4]

This is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.

The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.

Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)

1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:

• Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
• The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".

2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:

• The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
• Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
• God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
  

3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.

Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.

Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.

Christianity or Islam?

- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8

Christianity or Buddhism?

- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.

Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:

The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.

So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.

Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?

- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.

I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.

In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.

View attachment 4695076


Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:

- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.

- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo

Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.

Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"

(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)

In another quote, He says:

"My kingdom is not of this world"

(John 18:36)

Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.

- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’

This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.

Some Bible verses for you:

“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:

Think about it pal. Christians endured:

Torture

Slavery

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.

Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.



Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.

Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.

So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.

View attachment 4695296
St Michael mogging Lucifer. Brutally over for Satancels

Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.

Tagging Christiancels. Tell me if I missed something:
@NatureEnjoyer_ @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Jesus is King Amen. @Jesus_ist_König

bookmarked and sent to moid squad gc

 

[polonaecel]

I’ll have to research and get back to you. What denom are you btw

Roman Catholic, we spoke on your profile

 

[CloudyCuck]

Roman Catholic, we spoke on your profile

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[polonaecel]

Oh yeah sorry bhai

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[Aox Ofwar]

This is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.

The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.

Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)

1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:

• Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
• The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".

2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:

• The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
• Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
• God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
  

3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.

Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.

Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.

Christianity or Islam?

- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8

Christianity or Buddhism?

- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.

Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:

The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.

So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.

Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?

- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.

I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.

- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.

In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.

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Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:

- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.

- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo

Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.

Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"

(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)

In another quote, He says:

"My kingdom is not of this world"

(John 18:36)

Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.

- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’

This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.

Some Bible verses for you:

“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:

Think about it pal. Christians endured:

Torture

Slavery

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods

Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.

Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.



Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.

Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.

So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.

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St Michael mogging Lucifer. Brutally over for Satancels

Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.

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