Why is sloped forehead a negative? What is this guy on about? (TAILS YOUTUBE RATING CHAN)

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I mean I don't; really know what's going on here? Lol

Why would having a sloped sexually dimorphic forehead be a minus?

He's rating one of those gimmicky self-improvement YouTubers. ICECold JT and is claiming his sloped forehead subtracts from his harmony? What? @StrangerDanger

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Sloped forehead is a sign of head tilt frauding

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Tagging all the facial aesthetic fellow experts.

Who we're looking at....

@Prettyboy @reptiles @Mouthbreath @Seth Walsh @VicMackey

 

[alriodai]

he's retarded

he just made a video saying IncelTV make repetetive videos

don't he see the irony and the hypocrisy of him saying another youtuber is making repetetive videos?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Sloped forehead is a sign of head tilt frauding

Bro, forget that. Why is it a negative?

Tails I know you read this forum. On your account answer why you have subtracted based on that

 

[Deleted member 21297]

Tagging all the facial aesthetic fellow experts.

Who we're looking at....

@Prettyboy @reptiles @Mouthbreath @Seth Walsh @VicMackey

forgot to tag me

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

he's retarded

he just made a video saying IncelTV make repetetive videos

don't he see the irony and the hypocrisy of him saying another youtuber is making repetetive videos?

Link?

 

[Deleted member 21278]

Its Typically a non-white trait

 

[incel194012940]

he's retarded

he just made a video saying IncelTV make repetetive videos

don't he see the irony and the hypocrisy of him saying another youtuber is making repetetive videos?

how are you still his mod lol

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

forgot to tag me

Alright what's your opinion, instead of getting so stuck up on being tagged or not bruv

 

[alriodai]

Link?

 

[Deleted member 20397]

Looks low iq and ogre, straight forehead looks highclass

 

[Deleted member 21297]

Alright what's your opinion, instead of getting so stuck up on being tagged or not bruv

my opinion is tails wrong, slope forehead good

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Imagine competing with incel Black Pill channels for who's the top G

Goes for Wheat Waffles' head the same way

His ego is so far invested in this shit

 

[Oberyn]

Its Typically a non-white trait

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

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Proof these pseudo intellectual punchable psl geeks just guess through everything.

'It's typically a non-white trait' LMAO

 

[Almost Chadlite]

ideally sharp is better but doesn't matter much tbh gandy has sloped one

 

[germanlooks]

Sloped mogs but the browridge must be protruding and the eyes deep set which isn’t the case with the guy in OP and most ethnics

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Sloped mogs but the browridge must be protruding and the eyes deep set which isn’t the case with the guy in OP and most ethnics


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And his are?

 

[Deleted member 18849]

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That was the exact picture I was considering posting

 

[germanlooks]

And his are?

Cavills? Yes

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Cavills? Yes
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How about mine from a year back? Jfl, I couldn't find the original and this was some joker from Lookism.Net that did a social experiment, naming me Lorenzo and putting Fight Club as my location due to the Brad Pitt PFP avatar at the time jfl

 

[sergeant blackpill]

Recessed forehead is a big flaw, the ideal skull is forward grown

 

[Seth Walsh]

Bro, forget that. Why is it a negative?

Tails I know you read this forum. On your account answer why you have subtracted based on that

[redacted tails spy account username]

Yeah idk. Tails is right with most things including his whole view on how "changing society won't change innate biological female desire for men and selection preferences". But trying to call out Incel TV is weird as hell. The vid fell flat when he tried to position it that Incel TV is coping with "muh society" etc when ITV is literally the only person left who doesn't make cope rationalisations or complain about it.

ITV has already said it's over for himself 1000x times and he is the nicest, calmest, coolest guy publicly associated with blackpill imo. He is an absolute treasure.

Tails should stick to making fun of Wheat Waffles or any other quasipill scammer (he could try go after Jacked & Stacked, Mens Maxxing & 1stman).

I know you're reading this Tails
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The ITV fell flat. I'm sure ITV knows, understands and agrees that there won't be some "subhuman uprising that'll change society", as, he never talks about any of that. Tails you picked on the wrong guy. Trying to expose a coper who doesn't cope, doesn't get you anywhere.

I saw Tails preface in his desc/comments that "he loves ITV too but just had to make the vid", but yeah a lot of shit was just "off".

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

@auburnlaw Tails we love you but explain yourself

JFL how did you suss out that's him? LOL

 

[Mouthbreath]

It is a masculine feature but can look ogre if the angle is too high. Browridge can be too massive as well. Imo angularity in general is more important, if you have a round forehead it will almost always look bad.

 

[szolliontaraelis]

I would've rather have sloped forehead over my non-sloped forehead

 

[Seth Walsh]

JFL how did you suss out that's him? LOL

He exposed it in a video. You could see the green "A" then I narrowed it down to the only shade of green that matched his account and that account has 0 posts but is last seen today/yday almost everyday.

 

[sergeant blackpill]

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gandy is normie

 

[Seth Walsh]

I mean I don't; really know what's going on here? Lol

Why would having a sloped sexually dimorphic forehead be a minus?

He's rating one of those gimmicky self-improvement YouTubers. ICECold JT and is claiming his sloped forehead subtracts from his harmony? What? @StrangerDanger

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It's just bullshit filler for him to try and seem more scientific. Forehead slope is more masculine (maybe he was thinking that forehead slope = Brock Lesnar-esque ogre) but what Tails misses every time is overall facial harmony. The reason you can't properly rate on an n/10 likert scale is because of the "harmony" part. Like Chico who doesn't have top tier Dimorphism or Forward Growth but just randomly has arguably the best looking face in the world... THAT is harmony. Not the ratio side of harmony, but the abstract unexplained side.

This is literally this hierarchy imo. [Rule 0: Be lean. Again credit to Tails for hammering this one home]

1. Harmony (Hair, ES ratio, Tr-G-Sn-M Thirds, Fifths Ratio, midface ratio, Lower lip subunit + Chin/Philtrum ratio, Physiognomical Face (soft features + clear, even toned skin?), and just the "harmony" part that's still unquantifiable)

2. Youthfulness & Dimorphism (Youthfulness speaks for itself and Tails always does a great job elucidating its importance in his videos)

3. Forward Growth (Forward growth of the jaws, giving the face a 3-dimensional look)

4. Averageness (relating to koinophilia in cephalometry. Being within the average bounds for the non-sagittal 2-D features. Only some features that are dimorphic AND attractive if above the koinophilic range are better. ie; longer PFL with retained fifths-harmony, commonly seen in models)

5. Symmetry (Just symmetry. That's why this is least important. Asymmetries aren't that noticeable unless they're huge. Mandibular yaw rotations, and just general measurements when the face is split down the middle in two. Slight asymmetries are obviously better than a perfectly mathematically symmetrical/mirrored face)

Re: Dimorphism, I listed the morphogenic male dimorphic features tons of times. It's stuff you can't change, that's why they're so important. Tall height, projected supraorbitals with a lower than avg nasofrontal angle, deep/angled nasion with glabella/nasal bridge projection, broad shoulders (long clavicles), long neck, wide forehead, (in some cases a longer PFL which remains harmonious), Wide face FHWR, long veiny leptorhinne hands (femalegazemaxxer hands), same with other stuff, long arms and radius/ulnas, naturally dark eyebrows.

But I like that Tails is so evidence driven and scientific. From watching his vids and tiktoks and looking at real life. I've realist that keeping hair is apart of harmony. And is more important than height when you look at both dynamically. For example; there's tons of tiktok prettyboy moggers who lack tall height but have amazing harmony and amazing hair. (Zario Bolanos, Sergi Cabrer, Damian Kater, Vinnie Hacker).

What happens when you lose hair is not only that ITS COMPLETELY OVER WHEN YOU GO BALD; but, your harmony will always get fucked up too. That's due to your hairline getting higher and your upper third being disproportionately large. It's no longer measured from the Trichion to Glabella but instead from the Vertex to Glabella.

I think long(er) hair which you can style is also an example of "Wastefulness theory", look it up (Amotz Zahavi, 1985). Basically states that if you can afford to be WASTEFUL in survival, you more than likely have the stronger genes. Like a peacock showing it's beautiful colourful long feathers; some tiktoker prettyboy is showing his beautiful thesalonguymaxxed long haircut.

There's a theory that weaker immune systems naturally have LESS testosterone, as testosterone weakens the immune system. So those who NATURALLY have higher amounts, are fitter genetically. That's why you see redpillers so sick on TRT, it's because they are WEAKENING their own immune systems because simply, they do not DESERVE to have high T. see: Alex playingwithfire, John Anthony Lifestyle. Both on TRT and sick and wasted looking.

Overall I love Tails' videos and he's the best out there when it comes to me learning knew ways of looking at things. I don't like the n/10 rating thing because I don't think it's based enough in evidence but I understand he's probably doing that to an extent to grow a bigger or new audience. His outlook on genetics and evolutionary psychology is better and more on-the-mark than pretty much anything I've ever come across.

Disagree with him about the "Chad can mouthbreath all his life and his dentofacial development won't worsen - That is just completely wrong. If you look at John Mew himself, he had the most downward grown, clockwise rotated jaws ever and he was a mouthbreather. Or just look at literally every mouth breather, or the monkey noseplug experiment. I know Tails was doing that for hyperbole too but sometimes he exaggerates points to the point where they either get lost in translation, or can just be debunked. I know he was trying to elucidate that mewing can't "grow you a jaw", which is true. But mewing certainly prevents CW rotation and remodels the alveolar bone even in adulthood so you can see improvements in your lips and better mentolabial and nasolabial angels through mewing even after your 20s. Regarding "growing bone" with mewing - that doesn't make sense lol. Syrian Psycho that guy with 32mil views on the Tails clips channel got a bimax and I fully debunked that by showing the BSSO notch and brackets left over on his mandible right where the distraction was done. Regarding moving actual skeletal bone with mewing - It CAN be done, but your bones need to be extremely malleable (age 4-7 you can definitely move bone just with your tongue but too late for all of us now). Depending on your genes relating to osteoclasts/osteoblasts and bone malleability (Runx2 and RANKL), you might be able to move your maxilla up 'til age 11, or even into your early teens with ortho appliances while your sutures and still loose and your jaws are still growing naturally. That's the truth about mewing.

He did a good job stopping the "mewing cope" because it seems like 20 year olds think they can get DJS-like results with mewing when that's just untrue and misinterpreted. I love how he destroys redpill, bluepill, mstow etc. But calling out Incel TV was just in bad taste. How can you not like that guy, or even say he's a coper? I mean you can call him ugly, but don't call him a coper - he's a blackpill treasure.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Such a fucking nerd. Get on this fucking forum and fucking debate it with me you shady pipsqueak.

Instead of running back to your doomer extremist echo-chamber where everyone is programmed to be completely disillusioned from reality autists.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Re: Dimorphism, I listed the morphogenic male dimorphic features tons of times. It's stuff you can't change, that's why they're so important. Tall height, projected supraorbitals with a lower than avg nasofrontal angle, deep/angled nasion with glabella/nasal bridge projection, broad shoulders (long clavicles), long neck, wide forehead, (in some cases a longer PFL which remains harmonious), Wide face FHWR, long veiny leptorhinne hands (femalegazemaxxer hands), same with other stuff, long arms and radius/ulnas, naturally dark eyebrows.

@alriodai There's more stuff like long fingers which go with the large veiny hands. The reason girls get turned on by hands rather than muscles is because if they are attracted to you, they get turned on by the possibility of your hands on them (not your biceps touching and feeling them, but your hands). Long fingers should be self explanatory.

Rings etc are just good ways of drawing attention to aesthetically and dimorphically attractive hands in the female gaze perspective. The reason why the rings and bracelets didn't work for dream is because he lacks dimorphism.

You don't even need the most veiny leptorrhine hands to pull off ringmaxxing tho, nor do you need arms/hands very high in dimorphism. Most important bit is a face that is sexually attractive to women (should be self explanatory), then they'll like your hands anyway so long as they're not short/fat picknyck hands. Face is still always king. But getting lean is integral.

 

[alriodai]

@alriodai There's more stuff like long fingers which go with the large veiny hands. The reason girls get turned on by hands rather than muscles is because if they are attracted to you, they get turned on by the possibility of your hands on them (not your biceps touching and feeling them, but your hands). Long fingers should be self explanatory.

Rings etc are just good ways of drawing attention to aesthetically and dimorphically attractive hands in the female gaze perspective. The reason why the rings and bracelets didn't work for dream is because he lacks dimorphism.

You don't even need the most veiny leptorrhine hands to pull off ringmaxxing tho, nor do you need arms/hands very high in dimorphism. Most important bit is a face that is sexually attractive to women (should be self explanatory), then they'll like your hands anyway so long as they're not short/fat picknyck hands. Face is still always king. But getting lean is integral.

Damn I didn't know about the hand thing like them getting turned on because of the possibilty of your hands on their neck, thanks for the info, I always was wondering why they liked big hands, I thought they associated big hands w big dicks

 

[Seth Walsh]

Damn I didn't know about the hand thing like them getting turned on because of the possibilty of your hands on their neck, thanks for the info, I always was wondering why they liked big hands, I thought they associated big hands w big dicks

Nah it's all about the feel and the emotional femalegaze part that Tails just doesn't fucking understand yet

Basically girls want to get touched by hands that are correlated with attractiveness, and those hands tend to be leptorrhine most of the time rather than picknyck.

Same way they are disgusted at the idea of being touched by pickynck hands. Because the hands say a lot about the face and the overall genetics of the person. Also longer limbs, tall height etc are more correlated with a big dick. But the reasoning behind the hands thing isn't that it indicates a big dick. A big dick can't be "dimorphic", because the word dimorphism means "2 variances", meaning, it must be a feature women have too, which is so distinct and different from their own feature.

For example, you don't see women with long necks, veiny arms and hands, broad shoulders. Nor would we find that attractive if they had that.

It sends an idea about what the face looks like. Voice can do the same too. Voice can be dimorphic, because girls also have a voice. Anything that both genders have, which can be differentiated, can be dimorphic.

Above: "Sexual assault charge" hands. Even the heavy forearm hair on this hand gives ideation to the increased possibility that the guy is bald. Because there's a strong correlation between excess forearm hair, body hair and facial hair with scalp baldness.

The above reasoning may lend suggestion as to why, forearm hair, chest hair etc is not seen as ideal nowadays especially in young men wanting to prettyboy and femalegaze max.

Tails thinks he knows so much about female gaze but there's a whole emotional side to it he doesn't know about yet. He's right about chains, bracelets, rings etc, but he doesn't realise that they're just a cocky way of bringing attention to an attractive feature. Like a girl with nice tits wearing a top which shows her cleavage. It's the same premise. But if you get a guy with an ugly face and zero dimorphism wearing rings, he'll look like a fag and the ring won't just "increase SMV" like Tails seems to believe. I think fails to understand the reasons why ringmaxxing etc works.

 

[Seth Walsh]

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